• OT? ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 16 14:00:29 2024
    OT? ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    They are not ambient sound amplifiers but bluetooh only.

    I have found that if I scratch my head when wearing bluetooth earbuds,
    the sound is louder than when I'm not. FWIW I have hair. I was
    listening to webradio on my cell phone (see, an Android question!) with wireless, bluetooth earbuds and when I scratched my head, it seemed
    louder than I remember it. I removed the earbuds and it wasn't as
    loud. I put the buds back in but turned off the webradio and it was
    louder again.

    Why is that?

    How does the sound of my scratching my scalp get into the earbuds?

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Aug 16 21:54:33 2024
    On 2024-08-16 20:00, micky wrote:
    OT? ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    They are not ambient sound amplifiers but bluetooh only.

    I have found that if I scratch my head when wearing bluetooth earbuds,
    the sound is louder than when I'm not. FWIW I have hair. I was
    listening to webradio on my cell phone (see, an Android question!) with wireless, bluetooth earbuds and when I scratched my head, it seemed
    louder than I remember it. I removed the earbuds and it wasn't as
    loud. I put the buds back in but turned off the webradio and it was
    louder again.

    Why is that?

    How does the sound of my scratching my scalp get into the earbuds?

    They probably have mikes, too, and they are enabled and active at the time.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to E.R." on Fri Aug 16 21:55:28 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:54:33 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2024-08-16 20:00, micky wrote:
    OT? ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    They are not ambient sound amplifiers but bluetooh only.

    I have found that if I scratch my head when wearing bluetooth earbuds,
    the sound is louder than when I'm not. FWIW I have hair. I was
    listening to webradio on my cell phone (see, an Android question!) with
    wireless, bluetooth earbuds and when I scratched my head, it seemed
    louder than I remember it. I removed the earbuds and it wasn't as
    loud. I put the buds back in but turned off the webradio and it was
    louder again.

    Why is that?

    How does the sound of my scratching my scalp get into the earbuds?

    They probably have mikes, too, and they are enabled and active at the time.

    Hmmm. Maybe that's the case. I have lueetooth earbueds both with and
    without ambient sound amplification, and I can't find the ones that are
    With. Maybe these are they! Clearly the ones With are more important
    becuase they are more versatile, more expensive, and harder to find for
    sale.

    A year or two ago I remember now using them to listen to the phone's
    web-radio ahile hunting in the fields for something, a hunt which
    required hiking next to an expressway. The expressway noise was ooud
    and annoying to begin with and amplified, it was worse, so I turned the amplifcation all the way down. Bose used to make such things, which
    they called Hearphones, and they had two sets of volume controls ON the earbuds, but this other model (which is no longer sold on Amazon and
    iirc I couldn't find it anywhere else either) has only one set of volume controls and one needs the included app to vary the ambient
    amplification. (It's also lighter too, which is nice, and why I was
    annoyed at myself for losing them.) The earbuds are downstairs now so
    tomorrow I will see if I can find the app on my phone and if it can make
    the head scratching louder.

    It's pretty funny if I only found the missing earbuds because I was
    scratching my head.

    I thought your answer was impossible, but you may have figured it out.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Aug 17 08:24:25 2024
    micky wrote:

    ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    Mine have three modes

    * noise cancelling on
    * noise cancelling off
    * transparency mode

    The latter sounds like your situation, I don't use it much because if
    I'm expecting to listen to a person, I won't be listening to music. Can
    you change mode?

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  • From Arno Welzel@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 17 13:21:12 2024
    micky, 2024-08-16 20:00:

    OT? ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    They are not ambient sound amplifiers but bluetooh only.

    I have found that if I scratch my head when wearing bluetooth earbuds,
    the sound is louder than when I'm not. FWIW I have hair. I was

    Because when you cover your ears with earbuds, the sound waves
    travelling through your scull and into the ear canals can not escape
    there but will be reflected back, thus you hear the sound louder.

    How does the sound of my scratching my scalp get into the earbuds?

    Bone conduction followed by reflection in your ear canals.

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    https://arnowelzel.de

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Aug 17 22:51:28 2024
    On 2024-08-17 03:55, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:54:33 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2024-08-16 20:00, micky wrote:
    OT? ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    They are not ambient sound amplifiers but bluetooh only.

    I have found that if I scratch my head when wearing bluetooth earbuds,
    the sound is louder than when I'm not. FWIW I have hair. I was
    listening to webradio on my cell phone (see, an Android question!) with
    wireless, bluetooth earbuds and when I scratched my head, it seemed
    louder than I remember it. I removed the earbuds and it wasn't as
    loud. I put the buds back in but turned off the webradio and it was
    louder again.

    Why is that?

    How does the sound of my scratching my scalp get into the earbuds?

    They probably have mikes, too, and they are enabled and active at the time.

    Hmmm. Maybe that's the case. I have lueetooth earbueds both with and without ambient sound amplification, and I can't find the ones that are
    With. Maybe these are they! Clearly the ones With are more important becuase they are more versatile, more expensive, and harder to find for
    sale.

    Many BT earphones for Android have in fact mikes, because they are
    intended to be used with the phone, meaning having a phone conversation
    is a certain possibility.

    Has bitten me more than once because they can make a phone call tapping
    the single button in a certain manner. And it phoned the first entry in
    the address book, which was some one not pleased at me phoning her by
    mistake (I had her business phone number written for calls she made to
    me, but she made the mistake of using her personal phone during the
    pandemic, being forced to work at home. She could not understand how a
    stranger had her personal number).

    I would like to have BT earphones with no mikes and no phone call making capability!


    A year or two ago I remember now using them to listen to the phone's web-radio ahile hunting in the fields for something, a hunt which
    required hiking next to an expressway. The expressway noise was ooud
    and annoying to begin with and amplified, it was worse, so I turned the amplifcation all the way down. Bose used to make such things, which
    they called Hearphones, and they had two sets of volume controls ON the earbuds, but this other model (which is no longer sold on Amazon and
    iirc I couldn't find it anywhere else either) has only one set of volume controls and one needs the included app to vary the ambient
    amplification. (It's also lighter too, which is nice, and why I was
    annoyed at myself for losing them.) The earbuds are downstairs now so tomorrow I will see if I can find the app on my phone and if it can make
    the head scratching louder.

    It's pretty funny if I only found the missing earbuds because I was scratching my head.

    I thought your answer was impossible, but you may have figured it out.

    We live complicated lives :-D


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    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 21 11:59:14 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 17 Aug 2024 08:24:25 +0100, Andy Burns <[email protected]> wrote:

    micky wrote:

    ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    Mine have three modes

    * noise cancelling on
    * noise cancelling off
    * transparency mode

    The latter sounds like your situation, I don't use it much because if
    I'm expecting to listen to a person, I won't be listening to music. Can
    you change mode?

    These are pretty cheap earbud and I don't remember them having modes at
    all, but I'll look at the instructions again.

    Thanks, and thanks Arno.

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  • From micky@21:1/5 to E.R." on Wed Aug 21 12:08:28 2024
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 17 Aug 2024 22:51:28 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2024-08-17 03:55, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:54:33 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2024-08-16 20:00, micky wrote:
    OT? ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    They are not ambient sound amplifiers but bluetooh only.

    I have found that if I scratch my head when wearing bluetooth earbuds, >>>> the sound is louder than when I'm not. FWIW I have hair. I was
    listening to webradio on my cell phone (see, an Android question!) with >>>> wireless, bluetooth earbuds and when I scratched my head, it seemed
    louder than I remember it. I removed the earbuds and it wasn't as
    loud. I put the buds back in but turned off the webradio and it was
    louder again.

    Why is that?

    How does the sound of my scratching my scalp get into the earbuds?

    They probably have mikes, too, and they are enabled and active at the time. >>
    Hmmm. Maybe that's the case. I have lueetooth earbueds both with and
    without ambient sound amplification, and I can't find the ones that are
    With. Maybe these are they! Clearly the ones With are more important
    becuase they are more versatile, more expensive, and harder to find for
    sale.

    Many BT earphones for Android have in fact mikes, because they are
    intended to be used with the phone, meaning having a phone conversation
    is a certain possibility.

    Has bitten me more than once because they can make a phone call tapping
    the single button in a certain manner. And it phoned the first entry in
    the address book, which was some one not pleased at me phoning her by

    LOL

    mistake (I had her business phone number written for calls she made to
    me, but she made the mistake of using her personal phone during the
    pandemic, being forced to work at home. She could not understand how a >stranger had her personal number).

    LOL

    I would like to have BT earphones with no mikes and no phone call making >capability!

    they sell BT earbuds at the supermarket here for less than $10 and I'm
    pretty sure** they don't have any way to make a phone call. The problem
    is that I read the instructions and think I'll remember them, but they
    all blur together. I should scan all my instructions so I can find them
    years later.

    **Usually I keep them in the car but I brought them upstairs to charge
    them and they are here.

    Oops, they did almost just what you said, diealed the most recent number
    (not the first number) , when I tapped the middle button, twice I think.

    A year or two ago I remember now using them to listen to the phone's
    web-radio ahile hunting in the fields for something, a hunt which
    required hiking next to an expressway. The expressway noise was ooud
    and annoying to begin with and amplified, it was worse, so I turned the
    amplifcation all the way down. Bose used to make such things, which
    they called Hearphones, and they had two sets of volume controls ON the
    earbuds, but this other model (which is no longer sold on Amazon and
    iirc I couldn't find it anywhere else either) has only one set of volume
    controls and one needs the included app to vary the ambient
    amplification. (It's also lighter too, which is nice, and why I was
    annoyed at myself for losing them.) The earbuds are downstairs now so
    tomorrow I will see if I can find the app on my phone and if it can make
    the head scratching louder.

    It's pretty funny if I only found the missing earbuds because I was
    scratching my head.

    I thought your answer was impossible, but you may have figured it out.

    We live complicated lives :-D

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to micky on Fri Aug 23 15:02:34 2024
    On 2024-08-21 18:08, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 17 Aug 2024 22:51:28 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2024-08-17 03:55, micky wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:54:33 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 2024-08-16 20:00, micky wrote:
    OT? ambient sound louder when using bluetooth earbuds. Why?

    They are not ambient sound amplifiers but bluetooh only.

    I have found that if I scratch my head when wearing bluetooth earbuds, >>>>> the sound is louder than when I'm not. FWIW I have hair. I was
    listening to webradio on my cell phone (see, an Android question!) with >>>>> wireless, bluetooth earbuds and when I scratched my head, it seemed
    louder than I remember it. I removed the earbuds and it wasn't as
    loud. I put the buds back in but turned off the webradio and it was >>>>> louder again.

    Why is that?

    How does the sound of my scratching my scalp get into the earbuds?

    They probably have mikes, too, and they are enabled and active at the time.

    Hmmm. Maybe that's the case. I have lueetooth earbueds both with and
    without ambient sound amplification, and I can't find the ones that are
    With. Maybe these are they! Clearly the ones With are more important
    becuase they are more versatile, more expensive, and harder to find for
    sale.

    Many BT earphones for Android have in fact mikes, because they are
    intended to be used with the phone, meaning having a phone conversation
    is a certain possibility.

    Has bitten me more than once because they can make a phone call tapping
    the single button in a certain manner. And it phoned the first entry in
    the address book, which was some one not pleased at me phoning her by

    LOL

    mistake (I had her business phone number written for calls she made to
    me, but she made the mistake of using her personal phone during the
    pandemic, being forced to work at home. She could not understand how a
    stranger had her personal number).

    LOL

    I would like to have BT earphones with no mikes and no phone call making
    capability!

    they sell BT earbuds at the supermarket here for less than $10 and I'm pretty sure** they don't have any way to make a phone call. The problem
    is that I read the instructions and think I'll remember them, but they
    all blur together. I should scan all my instructions so I can find them years later.

    Ohhh, yes.


    Although I want better sound quality, so I don't go for the 10€ kind, so
    they try to be better and have mikes. Yep, I see.


    **Usually I keep them in the car but I brought them upstairs to charge
    them and they are here.

    Oops, they did almost just what you said, diealed the most recent number
    (not the first number) , when I tapped the middle button, twice I think.

    Right! :-D

    And they dial fast while one fumbles with the phone trying to abort the
    call. Not working.



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    Cheers, Carlos.

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