<https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/08/encrypted-services-apple-proton-and-wire-helped-spanish-police-identify-activist/?utm_source=grugq&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=may-9-2023-3701&guccounter=1>
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
In article <[email protected]>
Yamn Remailer <[email protected]d> wrote:
<https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/08/encrypted-services-apple-proton-and-wire-helped-spanish-police-identify-activist/?utm_source=grugq&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=may-9-2023-3701&guccounter=1>
"Wire responded providing the email address used to register the
Wire account, which was a Protonmail address. Proton responded
providing the recovery email for that Protonmail account, which
was an iCloud email address, according to the documents."
"Once the Guardia Civil obtained the iCloud email address, the
documents show that it requested information from Apple, which
in turn provided a full name, two home addresses and a linked
Gmail account."
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
In article <[email protected]>
Yamn Remailer <[email protected]d> wrote:
<https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/08/encrypted-services-apple-proton-and-wire-helped-spanish-police-identify-activist/?utm_source=grugq&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=may-9-2023-3701&guccounter=1>
"Wire responded providing the email address used to register the Wire account, which was a Protonmail address. Proton responded providing
the recovery email for that Protonmail account, which was an iCloud
email address, according to the documents."
"Once the Guardia Civil obtained the iCloud email address, the
documents show that it requested information from Apple, which in turn provided a full name, two home addresses and a linked Gmail account."
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Say what you will about that, but Apple is uniquely a piece of work,
in the industry. Look at the cost of options for storage on an iMac,
and tell me with a straight face you'd buy anything, from that goofy
company.
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
trusted. Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
address of an account holder.
Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>
Yamn Remailer <[email protected]d> wrote:
<https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/08/encrypted-services-apple-proton-and-wire-helped-spanish-police-identify-activist/?utm_source=grugq&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=may-9-2023-3701&guccounter=1>
"Wire responded providing the email address used to register the
Wire account, which was a Protonmail address. Proton responded
providing the recovery email for that Protonmail account, which
was an iCloud email address, according to the documents."
"Once the Guardia Civil obtained the iCloud email address, the
documents show that it requested information from Apple, which
in turn provided a full name, two home addresses and a linked
Gmail account."
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
Rather proof that Apple users are stupid.
Christ, are people putting up with this shit, just for the great
privilege of running Apple's crapware? My self-assembled Linux box
(or Winblows, if I went back to it) gives me a lot more freedom.
OTOH, I was chewed out PERSONALLY by JWZ for running as root. Takes all kinds.
Yamn2 Remailer <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Say what you will about that, but Apple is uniquely a piece of work,
in the industry. Look at the cost of options for storage on an iMac,
and tell me with a straight face you'd buy anything, from that goofy
company.
The result is there is no privacy nor any anonymity possible on iOS.
Interesting.
Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Joel wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 14:50:16 -0400 :
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Say what you will about that, but Apple is uniquely a piece of work,
in the industry. Look at the cost of options for storage on an iMac,
and tell me with a straight face you'd buy anything, from that goofy
company.
It's not only the cost of portable and internal storage that Apple jacks up >> the price on, but Apple refuses to allow the users any privacy on iOS.
If you're using only your iOS device and you want to log into your Proton
Mail account, you can't get on iOS the anonymity the Tor Project provides. >>
https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/
"Apple requires browsers on iOS to use something called Webkit,
which prevents [ANY!] browser from having the same privacy
protections as does the Tor Browser."
The only place iOS is said to be private/secure is in Apple advertisements. >> In the real world, iOS is Swiss Cheese in terms of glaringly open holes.
"The two biggest challenges Tor developers on iOS face are Apple's
requirement that all browsers use the iOS WebKit rendering engine,
and the inability to run Tor as a system-wide service or daemon on iOS." >> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/tor-onion-browser-ios-vpn/
The result is there is no privacy nor any anonymity possible on iOS.
Interesting.
Joel wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 14:50:16 -0400 :
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Say what you will about that, but Apple is uniquely a piece of
work, in the industry. Look at the cost of options for storage on
an iMac, and tell me with a straight face you'd buy anything, from
that goofy company.
It's not only the cost of portable and internal storage that Apple
jacks up the price on, but Apple refuses to allow the users any
privacy on iOS.
If you're using only your iOS device and you want to log into your
Proton Mail account, you can't get on iOS the anonymity the Tor
Project provides.
https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/
"Apple requires browsers on iOS to use something called Webkit, which prevents [ANY!] browser from having the same privacy protections as
does the Tor Browser."
The only place iOS is said to be private/secure is in Apple
advertisements. In the real world, iOS is Swiss Cheese in terms of
glaringly open holes.
"The two biggest challenges Tor developers on iOS face are Apple's requirement that all browsers use the iOS WebKit rendering engine,
and the inability to run Tor as a system-wide service or daemon on
iOS." https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/01/tor-onion-browser-ios-vpn/
The result is there is no privacy nor any anonymity possible on
iOS.
Joel wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 16:15:21 -0400 :
The result is there is no privacy nor any anonymity possible on iOS.
Interesting.
What's telling is that even the iMac has the Tor Browser privacy that iOS lacks, which means, yet again for the umpteenth time, iOS lacks the privacy that every other operating system has, such as the use of the Tor browser.
Given the iOS device is the only phone that requires a login to the mothership just to work, I feel sorry for iOS users who desire privacy.
Remember, every single app that an iOS user downloads has their unique AppleID tagged into that app for tracking purposes by the Apple mothership.
Now even Google does tracking - but even Google won't stoop that low.
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12 11:50, Joel wrote:
Yamn2 Remailer <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Say what you will about that, but Apple is uniquely a piece of work,
in the industry. Look at the cost of options for storage on an iMac,
and tell me with a straight face you'd buy anything, from that goofy
company.
I can and do buy things from Apple.
Why?
Because they have and continue to work very well for me.
I don't have a beef with that, but it's costly, you have to admit. I
have a computer that's now three years old, that kicks much ass, and
didn't cost me an arm and a leg to assemble, even including the retail Windows license I used at first.
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12 14:12, Joel wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12 11:50, Joel wrote:
Yamn2 Remailer <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Say what you will about that, but Apple is uniquely a piece of work, >>>>> in the industry. Look at the cost of options for storage on an iMac, >>>>> and tell me with a straight face you'd buy anything, from that goofy >>>>> company.
I can and do buy things from Apple.
Why?
Because they have and continue to work very well for me.
I don't have a beef with that, but it's costly, you have to admit. I
Not really very much more in the grand scheme of things.
This latest M3 MacBook Air which I picked up last month cost me
If you're willing to accept their minimal offerings, it might be
somewhat affordable, but to what end? Why is macOS so great?
have a computer that's now three years old, that kicks much ass, and
didn't cost me an arm and a leg to assemble, even including the retail
Windows license I used at first.
Except you had to assemble it...
...which means you had to have the expertise to assemble it.
Most people DON'T have that expertise, nor do they want to acquire it.
I know, but it's amazing how terrible preassembled Winblows computers
are. I just couldn't put the money toward a Dell/etc., I had to force
myself to assemble it from parts.
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 19:12:24 GMT :
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
trusted. Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
address of an account holder.
He's right
Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 19:12:24 GMT :
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
By that standard no internet service company on the planet can be
trusted. Go ahead and tell us which online service wouldn't obey a
request from authorities for the name, address, and associated email
address of an account holder.
He's right that, of all companies, Apple is the least trustworthy.
Since Apple _requires_ you to log into your account 24/7/365, if you don't >>continually log into that account, Apple will unilaterally lock you out.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log in!
<https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your activity
<https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become non functional
<https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple _forces_ extra logins! >> <https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg> Apple tracking server login
Once Apple locks you out of your own device, take a guess at what Apple's >>officialy policy is for them allowing you back into your own device.
Yup.
You have to SHOW APPLE YOUR GOVERNMENT ID!
Then they record it.
They tell you this at the Genius bar that it's "for your safety".
No other company but Apple does this huge invasion of privacy.
Christ, are people putting up with this shit, just for the great
privilege of running Apple's crapware? My self-assembled Linux box
(or Winblows, if I went back to it) gives me a lot more freedom.
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12 14:12, Joel wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12 11:50, Joel wrote:
Yamn2 Remailer <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Say what you will about that, but Apple is uniquely a piece of work, >>>>> in the industry. Look at the cost of options for storage on an iMac, >>>>> and tell me with a straight face you'd buy anything, from that goofy >>>>> company.
I can and do buy things from Apple.
Why?
Because they have and continue to work very well for me.
I don't have a beef with that, but it's costly, you have to admit. I
Not really very much more in the grand scheme of things.
This latest M3 MacBook Air which I picked up last month cost me
If you're willing to accept their minimal offerings, it might be
somewhat affordable, but to what end? Why is macOS so great?
Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12, Joel <[email protected]> wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12 14:12, Joel wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12 11:50, Joel wrote:
Apple is uniquely a piece of work, in the industry. Look at the >>>>>>> cost of options for storage on an iMac, and tell me with a
straight face you'd buy anything, from that goofy company.
I can and do buy things from Apple.
Why?
Because they have and continue to work very well for me.
I don't have a beef with that, but it's costly, you have to admit.
I
Not really very much more in the grand scheme of things.
This latest M3 MacBook Air which I picked up last month cost me
If you're willing to accept their minimal offerings, it might be
somewhat affordable, but to what end? Why is macOS so great?
*Laughs in 500+ fps 4K rendering without breaking a sweat or consuming
tons of energy*
"Minimal"... ?
My 4K monitor was $200 from Newegg, it works fine with Linux. I don't
game, though, so admittedly I'm not comparing quite the same thing, it
would appear, but then I wouldn't buy a Mac to game on.
I'm talking about encoding and transforming 4K video streams. ?
OK, interesting, but what is special about macOS for that? I mean, I
realize Apple has a certain focus on these pro features, but it's not
as if it couldn't be developed on another platform.
You're gullible. Logging into Apple servers is *optional* and always has >>been. He's been corrected numerous times on these lies and just keeps >>repeating them because he knows people like you will fall for it without >>question. Good work.
Fair enough. I can admit a mistake. I'm not an Apple fan, but I do appreciate the, intelligent, people who use their stuff.
The reason is logical, obvious, and devilishly simple in nature...
a. The _market_ determines the app functionality (not the OEM).
b. Apple drastically limits what apps the market can provide.
c. Google can't.
Quite interesting. Certainly, I have a Galaxy S phone, not Apple's
odd-to-me product.
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
On 5/12/2024 9:32 PM, Joel wrote:
I'm talking about encoding and transforming 4K video streams. ?
OK, interesting, but what is special about macOS for that? I mean, I
realize Apple has a certain focus on these pro features, but it's not
as if it couldn't be developed on another platform.
Since this thread is an encrypted services thread, ask him what he
thinks of the new unfixable & unpatchable Apple Flaws in all the Mac
CPU SOC's.
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:
If you're willing to accept their minimal offerings, it might be
somewhat affordable, but to what end? Why is macOS so great?
*Laughs in 500+ fps 4K rendering without breaking a sweat or
consuming tons of energy*
"Minimal"... ?
My 4K monitor was $200 from Newegg, it works fine with Linux. I
don't game, though, so admittedly I'm not comparing quite the same
thing, it would appear, but then I wouldn't buy a Mac to game on.
I'm talking about encoding and transforming 4K video streams. ?
OK, interesting, but what is special about macOS for that?
I mean, I realize Apple has a certain focus on these pro features, but
it's not as if it couldn't be developed on another platform.
Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?
Joel wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 20:40:59 -0400 :
You're gullible. Logging into Apple servers is *optional* and always
has been. He's been corrected numerous times on these lies and just
keeps repeating them because he knows people like you will fall for
it without question. Good work.
Fair enough. I can admit a mistake. I'm not an Apple fan, but I do
appreciate the, intelligent, people who use their stuff.
Notice how these uneducated Apple religious zealots show no proof?
All they do, day in and day out, is deny how Apple iPhones really
work.
If logging into Apple servers is "optional", ask this uneducated
ignorant Jolly Roger Apple zealot how he uses the default messenger
app without it.
What this uneducated ignorant Jolly Roger Apple zealot will say is
"nobody needs a default messenger" and "nobody wants a default
messenger" app.
If logging into Apple servers is "optional", ask this uneducated
ignorant Jolly Roger Apple zealot how he installs apps on his iPhone
without it.
Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:
I'm talking about encoding and transforming 4K video streams. ?
OK, interesting, but what is special about macOS for that?
You were talking about "Apple's offerings" which includes hardware,
and Apple Silicon Macs are what enable what I'm talking about.
I mean, I realize Apple has a certain focus on these pro features,
but it's not as if it couldn't be developed on another platform.
Other platforms gulp power like there's no tomorrow and put out way
more heat to offer the same performance.
Ah, I get you, yeah, I like the idea, frankly, of a Mac *laptop*,
because of the heat generation issue. Apple is the first to offer a commercial ARM system. I don't need it for a desktop, but it'd be
great for a laptop. And can run Winblows in a VM, so I'd have Unix
and Win apps available. However, I don't like using laptops, so I
haven't done this, but it's just the thought.
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2024-05-12 14:12, Joel wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't have a beef with that, but it's costly, you have to admit. I
Not really very much more in the grand scheme of things.
This latest M3 MacBook Air which I picked up last month cost me
If you're willing to accept their minimal offerings, it might be
somewhat affordable, but to what end? Why is macOS so great?
have a computer that's now three years old, that kicks much ass, and
didn't cost me an arm and a leg to assemble, even including the retail
Windows license I used at first.
Except you had to assemble it...
...which means you had to have the expertise to assemble it.
Most people DON'T have that expertise, nor do they want to acquire it.
I know, but it's amazing how terrible preassembled Winblows computers
are. I just couldn't put the money toward a Dell/etc., I had to force
myself to assemble it from parts.
On 2024-05-13, Relf <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?
Have I told you how I don't give a shit about signatures? Cry harder.
something I never said
Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 14:27:19 GMT :
all App Stores require logins. He's a clown.
Yet the fact remains to own an iPhone is to have no privacy.
"Relf" <[email protected]> wrote:
Like a toddler, showing off his logs to anyone who will look,
Jolly_Roger ENDLESSLY repeats the following, expecting a happy
response:
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
My, what a wonderfully large & odiferous hunk of poo you have there !
Have you thought about spreading it all over you face before you go
out and play with your other friends ?
You did notice that it was under the "-- " delimiting his sig, Jeff?
Yamn2 Remailer <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Say what you will about that, but Apple is uniquely a piece of work,
in the industry. Look at the cost of options for storage on an iMac,
and tell me with a straight face you'd buy anything, from that goofy
company.
Nomen Nescio wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 05:26:57 +0200 (CEST) :
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
The bad guy didn't have to register a recovery email with Proton Mail.
Ask me how I know this.
Also the bad guy could have used Tor for his Proton Mail activities.
Again, ask me how I know this.
The main problem with his iCloud account, if we assume he owned it due
to owning an iOS device, is there is no privacy possible on iOS
devices.
Every other common consumer operating system will easily allow you to
NOT register the device to a mothership tracking account (yes, even
Win11).
Not only is it only Apple who requires that you be logging into that mothership tracking account 24/7/365, but Apple will unilaterally
brick your device if you refuse to constantly log into the device.
Again, ask me how I know this.
<https://i.postimg.cc/LXzB3Lc0/appleid01.jpg> Apple _forces_ a log
in! <https://i.postimg.cc/8k3GQyj4/appleid09.jpg> Apple tracks your
activity <https://i.postimg.cc/hhFNJ5mq/appleid010.jpg> Apps become
non functional <https://i.postimg.cc/nrFHSvby/appleid11.jpg> Apple
_forces_ extra logins! <https://i.postimg.cc/Y9kkj19v/appleid12.jpg>
Apple tracking server login
Not only is no account needed to use an Android phone (or
Windows/Linux), but Apple literally inserts your unique tracking ID
into EVERY app you install on your iOS device so that they can track
app activity.
Why do you think Apple requires you to be logged into their servers?
Why do you think Apple adds a unique tracking ID to every app
installed?
Apple's lack of privacy is coupled with an immense lack of security
too. Consider that the iPhone is the most exploited phone in phone
history!
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>
You can't have any privacy or security on any iOS device, by design.
Note that Apple also provides the worst hotfix support in the
industry.
<https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security
-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-upda
te-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>
Having proved Apple has the worst hotfix support in the industry, and
having shown as a result the iPhone is the most exploited phone, and
knowing that only Apple inserts your unique AppleID into every single
app you install on the device, and knowing that Apple alone requires
you to constantly log into their mothership tracking servers....
Can you trust Apple?
On Sun 12 May 2024 7:27 pm, Anonymous wrote:Certainly not Target or Bud Light.
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.And the rest of the corporate world can be?
Nomen Nescio <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <[email protected]>
Yamn Remailer <[email protected]d> wrote:
<https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/08/encrypted-services-apple-proton-and-wire-helped-spanish-police-identify-activist/?utm_source=grugq&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=may-9-2023-3701&guccounter=1>
"Wire responded providing the email address used to register the
Wire account, which was a Protonmail address. Proton responded
providing the recovery email for that Protonmail account, which
was an iCloud email address, according to the documents."
"Once the Guardia Civil obtained the iCloud email address, the
documents show that it requested information from Apple, which
in turn provided a full name, two home addresses and a linked
Gmail account."
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
Rather proof that Apple users are stupid.
On 2024-05-13, Joel <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:
If you're willing to accept their minimal offerings, it might be
somewhat affordable, but to what end? Why is macOS so great?
*Laughs in 500+ fps 4K rendering without breaking a sweat or
consuming tons of energy*
"Minimal"... ?
My 4K monitor was $200 from Newegg, it works fine with Linux. I
don't game, though, so admittedly I'm not comparing quite the same
thing, it would appear, but then I wouldn't buy a Mac to game on.
I'm talking about encoding and transforming 4K video streams. ?
OK, interesting, but what is special about macOS for that?
You were talking about "Apple's offerings" which includes hardware, and
Apple Silicon Macs are what enable what I'm talking about.
I mean, I realize Apple has a certain focus on these pro features, but
it's not as if it couldn't be developed on another platform.
Other platforms gulp power like there's no tomorrow and put out way more
heat to offer the same performance.
On 12.05.24 14:44, Andrew wrote:
Nomen Nescio wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 05:26:57 +0200 (CEST) :
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
The bad guy didn't have to register a recovery email with Proton Mail.
Ask me how I know this.
Arlen, we all know you are little child.
Everyone on this side of the pond should know that *Proton is a scam*
and stupid users exist all over the world. This case has nothing to do
with what you and others suggest in this case/thread.
Nomen Nescio wrote on Sun, 12 May 2024 05:26:57 +0200 (CEST) :
Once again proof that Apple cannot be trusted.
The bad guy didn't have to register a recovery email with Proton Mail.
Ask me how I know this.
Can you trust Apple?
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such weak trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.
Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 14:31:20 GMT :
On 2024-05-13, Relf <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?
Have I told you how I don't give a shit about signatures? Cry harder.
I think what Jeff Relf was trying to explain to the ignorant
uneducated Apple religious zealot Jolly Roger was that Google no
longer allows nntp posting to Usenet via the Google Groups server as
of February 22nd, 2024.
Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such weak trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.
On 13.05.24 16:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such weak trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.
Do you think you will ever learn to keep your fingers still to avoid
feeding this Troll?
--
"Alea iacta est." (Julius Caesar)
On 13 May 2024, Andrew <[email protected]> posted some news:v1tkgn$1pbt$[email protected]:
Jolly Roger wrote on 13 May 2024 14:31:20 GMT :
On 2024-05-13, Relf <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly_Roger proudly wrote:
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
Has Andrew told you why this no longer makes sense ?
Have I told you how I don't give a shit about signatures? Cry harder.
I think what Jeff Relf was trying to explain to the ignorant
uneducated Apple religious zealot Jolly Roger was that Google no
longer allows nntp posting to Usenet via the Google Groups server as
of February 22nd, 2024.
That's really too bad because it reduced the number of available victims.
On 13.05.24 16:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said
something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such weak
trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.
Do you think you will ever learn to keep your fingers still to avoid
feeding this Troll?
On 5/14/2024 10:39 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.05.24 16:30, Jolly Roger wrote:weak
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said
something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such
trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.
Do you think you will ever learn to keep your fingers still to avoid
feeding this Troll?
Take your trashy, spammy, flamewars back to alt.privacy where they belong.
In <v21hr4$msud$[email protected]> =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?= wrote:
On 13.05.24 16:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said
something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such
weak trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.
Do you think you will ever learn to keep your fingers still to avoid
feeding this Troll?
He deserves to be force fed tuna fish while being flogged.
In <[email protected]> a crybaby wrote:
On 5/14/2024 10:39 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
On 13.05.24 16:30, Jolly Roger wrote:weak
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I
said something I never said here while slinging his little insults.
Such
trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.
Do you think you will ever learn to keep your fingers still to avoid
feeding this Troll?
Take your trashy, spammy, flamewars back to alt.privacy where they
belong.
Oh stick your head back in the sand and take a nap or start
contributing. Dialogue of this nature is healthy.
On 5/16/2024 4:01 AM, anon wrote:
In <[email protected]> a crybaby wrote:ing.
Oh stick your head back in the sand and take a nap or start contribut
Dialogue of this nature is healthy.
Stay in your own lane.
Nomen Nescio wrote:
On 16 May 2024, anon <[email protected]> posted someyou boob
news:[email protected]:
In <v21hr4$msud$[email protected]> =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?= wrote:
On 13.05.24 16:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-05-13, Andrew <[email protected]> wrote:
Jolly Roger wrote on 12 May 2024 23:08:18 GMT :
I am right. Glad you admit it. That's a rarity for you
Now that the uneducated ignorant Apple religious zealots have
unilaterally declared that they are right on everything
Adults will notice how Arlen snips context and tries to claim I said >>>>> something I never said here while slinging his little insults. Such
weak trolls are all Arlen has as his disposal.
Do you think you will ever learn to keep your fingers still to avoid
feeding this Troll?
He deserves to be force fed tuna fish while being flogged.
no lube
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