• Nothing on my MacBook Pro (including Airdroid) can read my Samsung Gala

    From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 2 20:11:32 2023
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    First I tried Apple's recommendations: Photos app, Image Capture app,
    or Preview app.

    All three of them show that the Galaxy is connected to them. But none
    of them can see any of the data.

    I have the Android File Transfer app ... but it can't even see my phone
    at all, let alone see the data on it. In fact, it never worked on ANY
    of my Android phones

    I then tried Airdroid, which had worked just fine on my earlier Android
    phones.

    It also saw my Galaxy and said that it was connected ... but it couldn't
    see any data either.

    I then learned that I needed to turn on USB debugging on the Galaxy.

    I did so ... but even still, none of the above programs can see the data
    on the phone.

    What other setting am I possibly missing?

    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Sun Dec 3 08:28:56 2023
    On 03.12.23 05:11, Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    Why the hell are you buying an Android phone? For the same price you
    would have gotten a superior iPhone which can be backed up wirelessly.


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  • From Dave Royal@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 3 08:38:46 2023
    On 2 Dec 2023 20:11:32 -0800 Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    First I tried Apple's recommendations: Photos app, Image Capture app,
    or Preview app.

    All three of them show that the Galaxy is connected to them. But none
    of them can see any of the data.

    I have the Android File Transfer app ... but it can't even see my phone
    at all, let alone see the data on it. In fact, it never worked on ANY
    of my Android phones

    I then tried Airdroid, which had worked just fine on my earlier Android >phones.

    It also saw my Galaxy and said that it was connected ... but it couldn't
    see any data either.

    I then learned that I needed to turn on USB debugging on the Galaxy.

    I did so ... but even still, none of the above programs can see the data
    on the phone.

    What other setting am I possibly missing?

    When I plug my Android Galaxy Tab (Android 13) into my Linux PC I get an
    icon on the desktop, so it knows it's there. But when I open (mount) it to display the files I get a prompt on Android "Do you allow...? I have to be ready for that promt with the display on - it doesn't last long.

    Previous PCs, devices, and Android versions used to also ask "Always trust
    this computer?" but that doesn't happen for some reason. There is always a permission request.
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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Sun Dec 3 15:38:17 2023
    Dudley Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    First I tried Apple's recommendations: Photos app, Image Capture app,
    or Preview app.

    All three of them show that the Galaxy is connected to them. But none
    of them can see any of the data.

    I have the Android File Transfer app ... but it can't even see my phone
    at all, let alone see the data on it. In fact, it never worked on ANY
    of my Android phones

    What is "the Android File Transfer app"? It's quite an ambiguous
    description. Do you mean the Samsung 'My Files' app? If so, do you use OneDrive, Google Drive or Network Storage in that app.

    I then tried Airdroid, which had worked just fine on my earlier Android phones.

    It also saw my Galaxy and said that it was connected ... but it couldn't
    see any data either.

    I then learned that I needed to turn on USB debugging on the Galaxy.

    I did so ... but even still, none of the above programs can see the data
    on the phone.

    What other setting am I possibly missing?

    I normally use a USB MTP connection to my Windows computer, so
    different setup than yours, but when I use that, I have to unlock my
    (Samsung Galaxy A51) phone, otherwise the phone is connected, but the
    phone's storage is not shown, i.e. exactly like in your case.

    The reason for that is clear: Security, because without that lock, a
    bad actor could copy stuff from your phone by just connecting (to) it.

    So is your phone unlocked when you try to access it from your Mac?

    Additional tip: There is third-party software for the Mac to make a
    USB MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) connection to a device. Such a
    connection should work for yoy Samsung phone, because it's the same
    thing as Windows uses out-of-the-box.

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  • From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to Dave Royal on Sun Dec 3 07:45:46 2023
    On 12/3/23 12:38 AM, Dave Royal wrote:

    On 2 Dec 2023 20:11:32 -0800 Dudley Brooks wrote:

    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    First I tried Apple's recommendations: Photos app, Image Capture app,
    or Preview app.

    All three of them show that the Galaxy is connected to them. But none
    of them can see any of the data.

    I have the Android File Transfer app ... but it can't even see my phone
    at all, let alone see the data on it. In fact, it never worked on ANY
    of my Android phones

    I then tried Airdroid, which had worked just fine on my earlier Android
    phones.

    It also saw my Galaxy and said that it was connected ... but it couldn't
    see any data either.

    I then learned that I needed to turn on USB debugging on the Galaxy.

    I did so ... but even still, none of the above programs can see the data
    on the phone.

    What other setting am I possibly missing?

    When I plug my Android Galaxy Tab (Android 13) into my Linux PC I get an
    icon on the desktop, so it knows it's there. But when I open (mount) it to display the files I get a prompt on Android "Do you allow...? I have to be ready for that prompt with the display on - it doesn't last long.

    Previous PCs, devices, and Android versions used to also ask "Always trust this computer?" but that doesn't happen for some reason. There is always a permission request.

    That's right, I remember now that I always used to see some such display
    when I would connect the previous phones. This time I'm not getting any
    kind of permission request. I tried it again ... and I watched closely
    ;^) The only thing that pops up is a momentary notice that the battery
    is charging.

    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Sun Dec 3 16:17:17 2023
    Dudley Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
    [...]

    That's right, I remember now that I always used to see some such display
    when I would connect the previous phones. This time I'm not getting any
    kind of permission request. I tried it again ... and I watched closely
    ;^) The only thing that pops up is a momentary notice that the battery
    is charging.

    There's your cue! If the phone says it's charging, it's locked. If
    it's locked, you can't get at its data for obvious reasons. See my
    earlier response for more details.

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  • From Dave Royal@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 3 18:08:59 2023
    On 3 Dec 2023 07:45:46 -0800 Dudley Brooks wrote:
    On 12/3/23 12:38 AM, Dave Royal wrote:

    On 2 Dec 2023 20:11:32 -0800 Dudley Brooks wrote:

    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    First I tried Apple's recommendations: Photos app, Image Capture app,
    or Preview app.

    All three of them show that the Galaxy is connected to them. But none
    of them can see any of the data.

    I have the Android File Transfer app ... but it can't even see my phone
    at all, let alone see the data on it. In fact, it never worked on ANY
    of my Android phones

    I then tried Airdroid, which had worked just fine on my earlier Android
    phones.

    It also saw my Galaxy and said that it was connected ... but it couldn't >>> see any data either.

    I then learned that I needed to turn on USB debugging on the Galaxy.

    I did so ... but even still, none of the above programs can see the data >>> on the phone.

    What other setting am I possibly missing?

    When I plug my Android Galaxy Tab (Android 13) into my Linux PC I get an
    icon on the desktop, so it knows it's there. But when I open (mount) it to >> display the files I get a prompt on Android "Do you allow...? I have to be >> ready for that prompt with the display on - it doesn't last long.

    Previous PCs, devices, and Android versions used to also ask "Always trust >> this computer?" but that doesn't happen for some reason. There is always a >> permission request.

    That's right, I remember now that I always used to see some such display
    when I would connect the previous phones. This time I'm not getting any
    kind of permission request. I tried it again ... and I watched closely
    ;^) The only thing that pops up is a momentary notice that the battery
    is charging.

    Yes, mine says charging until it has permission to access from PC.

    I've always had USB debugging on, though I don't think you need it just to transfer photos. I use the file Linux explorer, open a window for the
    tablet (after permission granted) and copy files. I suggest you use Mac equivalent. You do need USB debugging to run ADB.

    Things I've seen on previous devices/versions of Android (don't remember
    which versions):

    - when you plug USB in, a USB icon top-left with a pull-down menu
    including charge or transfer files

    - in settings developer options (?) a USB setting for default USB mode
    (you want mtp)

    - also in developer options, a 'forget this computer' to force it to ask
    for permissions again


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  • From Dudley Brooks@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Sun Dec 3 10:50:56 2023
    On 12/3/23 7:38 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    Dudley Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:

    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    First I tried Apple's recommendations: Photos app, Image Capture app,
    or Preview app.

    All three of them show that the Galaxy is connected to them. But none
    of them can see any of the data.

    I have the Android File Transfer app ... but it can't even see my phone
    at all, let alone see the data on it. In fact, it never worked on ANY
    of my Android phones

    What is "the Android File Transfer app"? It's quite an ambiguous description. Do you mean the Samsung 'My Files' app? If so, do you use OneDrive, Google Drive or Network Storage in that app.

    "Android File Transfer" is the actual name of the app. I've had it
    since forever, although it is updated. But it has never worked.

    I then tried Airdroid, which had worked just fine on my earlier Android
    phones.

    It also saw my Galaxy and said that it was connected ... but it couldn't
    see any data either.

    I then learned that I needed to turn on USB debugging on the Galaxy.

    I did so ... but even still, none of the above programs can see the data
    on the phone.

    What other setting am I possibly missing?

    I normally use a USB MTP connection to my Windows computer, so
    different setup than yours, but when I use that, I have to unlock my
    (Samsung Galaxy A51) phone, otherwise the phone is connected, but the
    phone's storage is not shown, i.e. exactly like in your case.

    The reason for that is clear: Security, because without that lock, a
    bad actor could copy stuff from your phone by just connecting (to) it.

    So is your phone unlocked when you try to access it from your Mac?

    By "locked" do you mean password protected so I have to enter a password
    when I start? No, I've never used that, because I'm almost never
    anywhere that I have to worry about someone else being near.

    Additional tip: There is third-party software for the Mac to make a
    USB MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) connection to a device. Such a
    connection should work for yoy Samsung phone, because it's the same
    thing as Windows uses out-of-the-box.

    I will check it out

    --
    Dudley Brooks, Artistic Director
    Run For Your Life! ... it's a dance company!
    San Francisco

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Dudley Brooks on Sun Dec 3 19:52:42 2023
    Dudley Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 12/3/23 7:38 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    Dudley Brooks <[email protected]> wrote:

    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    First I tried Apple's recommendations: Photos app, Image Capture app,
    or Preview app.

    All three of them show that the Galaxy is connected to them. But none
    of them can see any of the data.

    I have the Android File Transfer app ... but it can't even see my phone
    at all, let alone see the data on it. In fact, it never worked on ANY
    of my Android phones

    What is "the Android File Transfer app"? It's quite an ambiguous description. Do you mean the Samsung 'My Files' app? If so, do you use OneDrive, Google Drive or Network Storage in that app.

    "Android File Transfer" is the actual name of the app. I've had it
    since forever, although it is updated. But it has never worked.

    "Android File Transfer" gives too many hits on the Google Play
    website. But since it has never worked for you, we might as well skip
    this point.

    I then tried Airdroid, which had worked just fine on my earlier Android
    phones.

    It also saw my Galaxy and said that it was connected ... but it couldn't >> see any data either.

    I then learned that I needed to turn on USB debugging on the Galaxy.

    I did so ... but even still, none of the above programs can see the data >> on the phone.

    What other setting am I possibly missing?

    I normally use a USB MTP connection to my Windows computer, so
    different setup than yours, but when I use that, I have to unlock my (Samsung Galaxy A51) phone, otherwise the phone is connected, but the phone's storage is not shown, i.e. exactly like in your case.

    The reason for that is clear: Security, because without that lock, a
    bad actor could copy stuff from your phone by just connecting (to) it.

    So is your phone unlocked when you try to access it from your Mac?

    By "locked" do you mean password protected so I have to enter a password
    when I start? No, I've never used that, because I'm almost never
    anywhere that I have to worry about someone else being near.

    Yes, I mean locked by a PIN code, fingerprint, face recognition, etc..
    (I use a fingerprint with a PIN code fallback.)

    I don't know if the phone also hides the access to the filesystem if
    the phone is just 'sleeping' - i.e. a black display - instead of locked.

    Anyway, I advise to wake up the phone - i.e. get it to display
    something - while you're trying to access it from your Mac.

    Additional tip: There is third-party software for the Mac to make a
    USB MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) connection to a device. Such a
    connection should work for yoy Samsung phone, because it's the same
    thing as Windows uses out-of-the-box.

    I will check it out

    If you can't find it, you might have to add the Mac group to the
    Newsgroup: header, but in the past the Apple folks have been reluctant
    to 'admit' that the Mac needs third-party software for what Windows can
    do out-of-the-box.

    Good luck.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 4 00:12:05 2023
    On 2023-12-03 08:28, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 03.12.23 05:11, Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    Why the hell are you buying an Android phone? For the same price you
    would have gotten a superior iPhone which can be backed up wirelessly.

    I would rather ask why buy an inferior MacBook Pro instead of a proper computer.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Sun Dec 3 15:23:34 2023
    On 2023-12-03 15:12, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2023-12-03 08:28, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 03.12.23 05:11, Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    Why the hell are you buying an Android phone? For the same price you
    would have gotten a superior iPhone which can be backed up wirelessly.

    I would rather ask why buy an inferior MacBook Pro instead of a proper computer.


    Yup. Trying to make this about Apple is on brand for you.

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Dec 4 02:06:08 2023
    On 2023-12-04 00:23, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-12-03 15:12, Carlos E. R. wrote:
    On 2023-12-03 08:28, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 03.12.23 05:11, Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    Why the hell are you buying an Android phone? For the same price you
    would have gotten a superior iPhone which can be backed up wirelessly.

    I would rather ask why buy an inferior MacBook Pro instead of a proper
    computer.


    Yup. Trying to make this about Apple is on brand for you.

    Not me! That was Jörg who did.

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 4 10:52:46 2023
    Am 04.12.23 um 00:12 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    On 2023-12-03 08:28, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 03.12.23 05:11, Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    Why the hell are you buying an Android phone? For the same price you
    would have gotten a superior iPhone which can be backed up wirelessly.

    I would rather ask why buy an inferior MacBook Pro instead of a proper computer.

    In stark contrast to you I work with all available OSs. You have no clue
    of anything beyond your little Android- and Windows-world. Would you use
    Linux you would understand what macOS is.

    *You act always like a little child*.

    *LOL*

    --
    "Gutta cavat lapidem." (Ovid)

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 4 13:53:29 2023
    On 2023-12-04 10:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 04.12.23 um 00:12 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    On 2023-12-03 08:28, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 03.12.23 05:11, Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    Why the hell are you buying an Android phone? For the same price you
    would have gotten a superior iPhone which can be backed up wirelessly.

    I would rather ask why buy an inferior MacBook Pro instead of a proper
    computer.

    In stark contrast to you I work with all available OSs. You have no clue
    of anything beyond your little Android- and Windows-world. Would you use Linux you would understand what macOS is.

    ROTFL! :-D


    *You act always like a little child*.

    *LOL*


    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Mon Dec 4 16:07:51 2023
    Carlos E. R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 2023-12-04 10:52, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 04.12.23 um 00:12 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    On 2023-12-03 08:28, J�rg Lorenz wrote:
    On 03.12.23 05:11, Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    Why the hell are you buying an Android phone? For the same price you
    would have gotten a superior iPhone which can be backed up wirelessly.

    I would rather ask why buy an inferior MacBook Pro instead of a proper
    computer.

    In stark contrast to you I work with all available OSs. You have no clue
    of anything beyond your little Android- and Windows-world. Would you use Linux you would understand what macOS is.

    ROTFL! :-D

    Yes, isn't it a bummer that Thunderbird does no longer mention your OS
    in its User-Agent header, which made J�rg step right into it!? OTOH,
    that assumes that he's actually looking at headers, not very likely.

    *You act always like a little child*.

    *LOL*

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  • From Carlos E. R.@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Mon Dec 4 19:52:42 2023
    On 2023-12-04 17:07, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Carlos E. R. <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 2023-12-04 10:52, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    Am 04.12.23 um 00:12 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
    On 2023-12-03 08:28, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
    On 03.12.23 05:11, Dudley Brooks wrote:
    I want to back up the photos on my Galaxy phone to my MacBook Pro.

    Why the hell are you buying an Android phone? For the same price you >>>>> would have gotten a superior iPhone which can be backed up wirelessly. >>>>
    I would rather ask why buy an inferior MacBook Pro instead of a proper >>>> computer.

    In stark contrast to you I work with all available OSs. You have no clue >>> of anything beyond your little Android- and Windows-world. Would you use >>> Linux you would understand what macOS is.

    ROTFL! :-D

    Yes, isn't it a bummer that Thunderbird does no longer mention your OS
    in its User-Agent header, which made Jörg step right into it!? OTOH,
    that assumes that he's actually looking at headers, not very likely.

    He might remember what I use, I have been here some years and I make no
    secret about what I use ;-)

    I think there must be a setting somewhere to customize the string. There
    is one in advanced settings to send it or not.

    Meanwhile, those that know me better will be having a bit of a laugh at
    Jörg ;-)

    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to Carlos E. R. on Mon Dec 4 16:30:19 2023
    "Carlos E. R." <[email protected]d> wrote

    Meanwhile, those that know me better will be having a bit of a laugh at
    J�rg ;-)

    My killfile is about five people even after decades of being on Usenet
    where I only plonk those who have _never_ once shown added value in a post.

    Snit, Alan Baker, Rod Speed, Dustin Cook is about it as I recall...

    Jeorg Lorenz is also there, as he they always _subtract_ value when they
    post (where just _responding_ to what Joerg writes reduces value itself).

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Wally J on Mon Dec 4 21:16:48 2023
    On 12/4/23 14:30, Wally J wrote:
    "Carlos E. R." <[email protected]d> wrote

    Meanwhile, those that know me better will be having a bit of a laugh at
    Jörg ;-)

    My killfile is about five people even after decades of being on Usenet
    where I only plonk those who have _never_ once shown added value in a post.

    Snit, Alan Baker, Rod Speed, Dustin Cook is about it as I recall...

    Jeorg Lorenz is also there, as he they always _subtract_ value when they
    post (where just _responding_ to what Joerg writes reduces value itself).

    My killfile only filters GG because I find it kinda fun watching the
    arguments.
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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  • From Wally J@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Dec 5 02:03:37 2023
    candycanearter07 <[email protected]> wrote

    Jeorg Lorenz is also there, as he they always _subtract_ value when they
    post (where just _responding_ to what Joerg writes reduces value itself).

    My killfile only filters GG because I find it kinda fun watching the arguments.

    I killfile only people whom I can't learn a single thing from.
    However, I realize a lot of people find Usenet amusing, but I don't.

    I use Usenet for three purposes alone...
    1. To learn
    2. To teach
    3. And (on Apple newsgroups) to show the iKooks for what they really are
    (as they're singularly unprepossessingly cruel heartless people)

    That's it.
    --
    Amusement isn't in my list (even as that last item is a strong emotion).

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  • From candycanearter07@21:1/5 to Wally J on Tue Dec 5 07:36:36 2023
    On 12/5/23 00:03, Wally J wrote:
    candycanearter07 <[email protected]> wrote

    Jeorg Lorenz is also there, as he they always _subtract_ value when they >>> post (where just _responding_ to what Joerg writes reduces value itself). >>
    My killfile only filters GG because I find it kinda fun watching the
    arguments.

    I killfile only people whom I can't learn a single thing from.
    However, I realize a lot of people find Usenet amusing, but I don't.

    I use Usenet for three purposes alone...
    1. To learn
    2. To teach
    3. And (on Apple newsgroups) to show the iKooks for what they really are
    (as they're singularly unprepossessingly cruel heartless people)

    That's it.

    And fair enough, you seem to be pretty good at it.
    --
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