Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:The 3.5mm TRS jacks go back a lot further than that. They are the same
BTW, I think in 1890 [1] there was no TRRS, nor TRS and no 3.5mm
version, so you might want to update that date! :-)
[1] If that was the year you keep on mentioning.
I got it wrong indeed. Should be 1877.
The original TR "patch cable" in this style emerged sometime in the
1870's. The 3.5 TRS/TRRS designs we see today descend therefrom. (as
far back as 1977, actually - so I'll update my comments going forward).
To respond to the claim that anything that works must be replaced by Apple with something that costs more just to get back to what already worked,
they invented the simple usable round wheel many thousands of years ago.
Following the argument by Alan, since it works, Apple must get rid of it.
On 2023-12-01 19:42:42 +0000, Larry Wolff said:
On 11/28/2023 6:15 PM, Your Name wrote:
I bought my first digital camera in 1999. People had them years
previously. How did they transfer files if not by a separate card
reader? Computers did not commonly have card slots and cameras did not >>>> have wifi/USB capability. At least mine didn't.
As below, you plug the camera into the computer using a data cable.
What if you're going to a wedding, and you plan ahead and bring sd cards.
Person 1 has an SLR and fills up the storage with photos. He "fiddles"
with
an sd card, & takes more. Then he "fiddles" with another sd card for
more.
Person 2 has a normal Android phone, so he does the exact same things.
But what does person 3 do who, sadly, only has access to his iPhone
camera?
Any normal person who takes so many photos that they quickly fill up a
mobile phone probably needs to seek professional psychiatric help. :-p
What Apple did was design a car without a trunk so that you would buy
something else (a drag-along trailer perhaps) to compensate for that loss.
No. That is all simply false.
What Apple did was design a piece of consumer electronics and let people decided whether or not they wanted to buy it.
On 2023-12-01 22:40, Your Name wrote:
On 2023-12-01 19:42:42 +0000, Larry Wolff said:
On 11/28/2023 6:15 PM, Your Name wrote:Any normal person who takes so many photos that they quickly fill up a
I bought my first digital camera in 1999.� People had them years
previously.� How did they transfer files if not by a separate card
reader?� Computers did not commonly have card slots and cameras did not >>>>> have wifi/USB capability. At least mine didn't.
As below, you plug the camera into the computer using a data cable.
What if you're going to a wedding, and you plan ahead and bring sd cards. >>>
Person 1 has an SLR and fills up the storage with photos. He "fiddles" with >>> an sd card, & takes more. Then he "fiddles" with another sd card for more. >>>
Person 2 has a normal Android phone, so he does the exact same things.
But what does person 3 do who, sadly, only has access to his iPhone camera? >>
mobile phone probably needs to seek professional psychiatric help.� :-p
Not really.
I can take five thousand photos in high resolution on a single night,
out in the bunnies.
Try to upload that to the cloud while "out in the bunnies".
B. Most phones these days can transfer files wirelessly, either locally
or to the internet.
Try to upload that to the cloud while "out in the bunnies".
As before: very niche market.
The 3.5mm TRS jacks go back a lot further than that. They are the sameThe original TR "patch cable" in this style emerged sometime in the
1870's. The 3.5 TRS/TRRS designs we see today descend therefrom. (as
far back as 1977, actually - so I'll update my comments going forward).
To respond to the claim that anything that works must be replaced by Apple >> with something that costs more just to get back to what already worked,
they invented the simple usable round wheel many thousands of years ago.
Following the argument by Alan, since it works, Apple must get rid of it.
as the 1/8" stereo jacks. TRRS is newer.
But what does person 3 do who, sadly, only has access to his iPhone camera?
The iPhone loads the photos up onto iCloud.
On 12/1/2023 10:01 PM, Your Name wrote:<snip the usual load of trolling bollocks>
Try to upload that to the cloud while "out in the bunnies".
As before: very niche market.
I'm wondering if the reason you whine so much about the iPhone is because
no iPhone can do what other phones can do so you're embarrassed about that.
You complain that "nobody wants" to save photos.
You whine that "nobody needs" to save photos.
For some reason, they keep telling us that the only reason it was removed
by Apple is that it had been working just fine for a very long time.
Apple, Samsung, etc. are removing the headphone jack simply because
very few people use it. Most people can't be bothered with tangled
cables, so wireless earbuds have become far more popular. In fact the majority of people probably don't use earbuds at all - their phone is
used mainly as little more than a high-tech messaging device.
sms <[email protected]> wrote:
The 3.5mm TRS jacks go back a lot further than that. They are the sameTo respond to the claim that anything that works must be replaced by Apple >>> with something that costs more just to get back to what already worked,
The original TR "patch cable" in this style emerged sometime in the
1870's. The 3.5 TRS/TRRS designs we see today descend therefrom. (as
far back as 1977, actually - so I'll update my comments going forward). >>>
they invented the simple usable round wheel many thousands of years ago. >>>
Following the argument by Alan, since it works, Apple must get rid of it. >>
as the 1/8" stereo jacks. TRRS is newer.
The date something was invented isn't important.
What's important is that it works.
For some reason, they keep telling us that the only reason it was removed
by Apple is that it had been working just fine for a very long time.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
The original TR "patch cable" in this style emerged sometime in the
1870's. The 3.5 TRS/TRRS designs we see today descend therefrom. (as
far back as 1977, actually - so I'll update my comments going forward).
oops- "as far back as 1877" - sorry.
Your argument is flawed that just because something has been useful for
many years, that it's no longer useful only because Apple told you so.
On 2023-12-01 10:33, rocco portelli wrote:
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
The original TR "patch cable" in this style emerged sometime in the >>>>>> 1870's. The 3.5 TRS/TRRS designs we see today descend therefrom. (as >>>>>> far back as 1977, actually - so I'll update my comments going
forward).
oops- "as far back as 1877" - sorry.
Your argument is flawed that just because something has been useful for >>>> many years, that it's no longer useful only because Apple told you so.
That's not his argument.
He's repeating it works for far too long for Apple to sell you more
stuff.
That's not even a parseable sentence.
sms <[email protected]> wrote:
as the 1/8" stereo jacks. TRRS is newer.The original TR "patch cable" in this style emerged sometime in theTo respond to the claim that anything that works must be replaced by Apple >>> with something that costs more just to get back to what already worked,
1870's. The 3.5 TRS/TRRS designs we see today descend therefrom. (as
far back as 1977, actually - so I'll update my comments going forward). >>>
they invented the simple usable round wheel many thousands of years ago. >>>
Following the argument by Alan, since it works, Apple must get rid of it. >> The 3.5mm TRS jacks go back a lot further than that. They are the same
The date something was invented isn't important.
What's important is that it works.
For some reason, they keep telling us that the only reason it was removed
by Apple is that it had been working just fine for a very long time.
Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
For some reason, they keep telling us that the only reason it was removed >>> by Apple is that it had been working just fine for a very long time.
Apple, Samsung, etc. are removing the headphone jack simply because
very few people use it. Most people can't be bothered with tangled
cables, so wireless earbuds have become far more popular. In fact the
majority of people probably don't use earbuds at all - their phone is
used mainly as little more than a high-tech messaging device.
Your excuse for your iPhone not being a capable phone is ridiculous because anyone on any phone can add bluetooth earbuds - whether Apple or Samsung.
Your argument is flawed that just because something has been useful for >>>>> many years, that it's no longer useful only because Apple told you so. >>>>That's not his argument.
He's repeating it works for far too long for Apple to sell you more
stuff.
That's not even a parseable sentence.
Thanks - I jammed on it and decided that ignoring it was a better thing.
Apple, Samsung, etc. are removing the headphone jack simply because very
few people use it. Most people can't be bothered with tangled cables, so wireless earbuds have become far more popular. In fact the majority of
people probably don't use earbuds at all - their phone is used mainly as little more than a high-tech messaging device.
I'm wondering if the reason you whine so much about the iPhone is because<snip the usual load of trolling bollocks>
no iPhone can do what other phones can do so you're embarrassed about that. >>
You complain that "nobody wants" to save photos.
You whine that "nobody needs" to save photos.
I never said any such thing
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
Your argument is flawed that just because something has been useful for >>>>>> many years, that it's no longer useful only because Apple told you so. >>>>>That's not his argument.
He's repeating it works for far too long for Apple to sell you more {AAA} >>>> stuff.
That's not even a parseable sentence.
Thanks - I jammed on it and decided that ignoring it was a better thing.
You're jamming on your own argument? WTF?
You're constantly making the date alone the entirety of your argument.
Why does the date something that works was invented matter so much to you?
You're jamming on your own argument? WTF?
No - jammed on your gibberish English above. See: {AAA}
You're constantly making the date alone the entirety of your argument.
Not at all. The date is just a label for a point in time.
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there is
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
Why does the date something that works was invented matter so much to you?
I'm not hung up on the date so much as the basic "technology" has been replaced by better things.
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there isPro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are.
Your Name <[email protected]> wrote:
For some reason, they keep telling us that the only reason it was removed >>> by Apple is that it had been working just fine for a very long time.
Apple, Samsung, etc. are removing the headphone jack simply because
very few people use it. Most people can't be bothered with tangled
cables, so wireless earbuds have become far more popular. In fact the
majority of people probably don't use earbuds at all - their phone is
used mainly as little more than a high-tech messaging device.
Your excuse for your iPhone not being a capable phone is ridiculous because anyone on any phone can add bluetooth earbuds - whether Apple or Samsung.
On 2023-12-02 11:32, rocco portelli wrote:
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there isPro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are.
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
And a very basic tip for you:
Features exist to provide functionality. The "basic thing" is the functionality, not the feature that delivers it.
The headphone jack provides ONE functionality: connecting to audio devices such as earbuds, earphones, speakers.
In message <ukg5gs$2ggh8$[email protected]>
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-12-02 11:32, rocco portelli wrote:
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there isPro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that >>> is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are.
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
And a very basic tip for you:
Features exist to provide functionality. The "basic thing" is the
functionality, not the feature that delivers it.
The headphone jack provides ONE functionality: connecting to audio devices >> such as earbuds, earphones, speakers.
The headphone jack used to provide two functionalities to some phones: connecting audio devices, and connecting an antenna for the FM radio.
Only some phones have FM radio, and I neither know nor care whether
iPhones do.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
You're jamming on your own argument? WTF?
No - jammed on your gibberish English above. See: {AAA}
What I said was you are confused by your own argument that the only thing that seems to matter to you is the date something useful was invented.
You're constantly making the date alone the entirety of your argument.
Not at all. The date is just a label for a point in time.
Then stop bringing up the date as if it's the only criteria you have.
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there is
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
Pro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that
is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are.
Why does the date something that works was invented matter so much to you? >>I'm not hung up on the date so much as the basic "technology" has been
replaced by better things.
What that excuse really means is you can't find anything wrong with it.
So you make your entire argument that it has been working for a long time.
To you, that's bad.
In message <ukg5gs$2ggh8$[email protected]>
Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2023-12-02 11:32, rocco portelli wrote:
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there is
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
Pro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that >>> is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are.
And a very basic tip for you:
Features exist to provide functionality. The "basic thing" is the
functionality, not the feature that delivers it.
The headphone jack provides ONE functionality: connecting to audio devices >> such as earbuds, earphones, speakers.
The headphone jack used to provide two functionalities to some phones: connecting audio devices, and connecting an antenna for the FM radio.
Only some phones have FM radio, and I neither know nor care whether
iPhones do.
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there is
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
Pro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that >>>> is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are.
And a very basic tip for you:
Features exist to provide functionality. The "basic thing" is the
functionality, not the feature that delivers it.
The headphone jack provides ONE functionality: connecting to audio devices >>> such as earbuds, earphones, speakers.
The headphone jack used to provide two functionalities to some phones:
connecting audio devices, and connecting an antenna for the FM radio.
Only some phones have FM radio, and I neither know nor care whether
iPhones do.
The newer Samsung phones do not have headphone jacks or FM radio
either. It has simply become a niche tech that most people do not need
and eventually the removal *will* ripple down product lines to all
models of phones from almost every maker (the exception being some
niche makers with high priced, low production models).
Those who don't like it will simply have to deal with it and no amount
of whining by the cross-posting anti-Apple nutter trolls will ever
change that fact.
Anyone who keeps whining about it will simply get put in my killfile as
the morons they are.
What I said was you are confused by your own argument that the only thing
that seems to matter to you is the date something useful was invented.
Not confused at all. Oceans of clarity here. And it's not the only
thing that matters. Had you been in on this (and other discussions of
the kind) earlier that would be clear to you.
You're constantly making the date alone the entirety of your argument.
Not at all. The date is just a label for a point in time.
Then stop bringing up the date as if it's the only criteria you have.
Who said it was the only criteria I have. There are other reasons why
this dated technology should go, including the bulkiness of the female
end of it that takes up precious internal room inside the phone and of
course newer connectors (such as Lightning and USB-C) offer far more versatility and data bandwidth.
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there is
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
Pro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that
is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are.
No mistake. I knew it didn't have that audio jack port and I've never
missed the audio-jack port at all. Not once.
As Alan adroitly points out: the functionality is still there. Just the connector changed. And now offers more functionality.
Why does the date something that works was invented matter so much to you? >>>I'm not hung up on the date so much as the basic "technology" has been
replaced by better things.
What that excuse really means is you can't find anything wrong with it.
If all that port had to do was audio, it would be acceptable.
But it's not a port that does one thing anymore.
So discard the audio jack and put in something far more versatile.
So you make your entire argument that it has been working for a long time. >>
To you, that's bad.
The reason I bring up the "age" of it is to illustrate that it was a
solution for a time.
As things evolve we discard what is better done by something else.
And of course, if you don't like the absence of the audio jack, that
just limits your choices.
On 12/2/2023 7:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
And a very basic tip for you:And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there is >>>>>> nobody forcing you to buy their products.
Pro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that >>>>> is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are. >>>>
Features exist to provide functionality. The "basic thing" is the
functionality, not the feature that delivers it.
The headphone jack provides ONE functionality: connecting to audio devices
such as earbuds, earphones, speakers.
The headphone jack used to provide two functionalities to some phones:
connecting audio devices, and connecting an antenna for the FM radio.
Only some phones have FM radio, and I neither know nor care whether
iPhones do.
The newer Samsung phones do not have headphone jacks or FM radio
either. It has simply become a niche tech that most people do not need
and eventually the removal *will* ripple down product lines to all
models of phones from almost every maker (the exception being some
niche makers with high priced, low production models).
Those who don't like it will simply have to deal with it and no amount
of whining by the cross-posting anti-Apple nutter trolls will ever
change that fact.
Anyone who keeps whining about it will simply get put in my killfile as
the morons they are.
Given most Android phones have the aux port (yes, even most Samsung phones) why is it only the Apple iPhone owners who are whining that they can't do what most Android phones have always been able to do with the aux port?
It's their fault they bought the iPhone that lacked all the basic hardware. Now they have to deal with that loss by buying more things to make it work.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
What I said was you are confused by your own argument that the only thing >>> that seems to matter to you is the date something useful was invented.
Not confused at all. Oceans of clarity here. And it's not the only
thing that matters. Had you been in on this (and other discussions of
the kind) earlier that would be clear to you.
You condescendingly claim that it's not clear to me that your entire
argument hinges singularly on the technology working for a very long time.
To you, that's bad.
You're constantly making the date alone the entirety of your argument. >>>>Not at all. The date is just a label for a point in time.
Then stop bringing up the date as if it's the only criteria you have.
Who said it was the only criteria I have. There are other reasons why
this dated technology should go, including the bulkiness of the female
end of it that takes up precious internal room inside the phone and of
course newer connectors (such as Lightning and USB-C) offer far more
versatility and data bandwidth.
There are plenty of small phones with less "internal room" than an iPhone. And they have the connectors and ports that all the new iPhones now lack.
And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there is
nobody forcing you to buy their products.
Pro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple product that >>> is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are.
No mistake. I knew it didn't have that audio jack port and I've never
missed the audio-jack port at all. Not once.
Then why are you constantly complaining that everyone but you has it?
Just own up to the fact you have to buy stuff to replace what Apple took.
As Alan adroitly points out: the functionality is still there. Just the
connector changed. And now offers more functionality.
Again, your entire argument is you don't like technology that just works.
You want to have to buy things to make what Apple took away work again.
Why does the date something that works was invented matter so much to you?
I'm not hung up on the date so much as the basic "technology" has been >>>> replaced by better things.
What that excuse really means is you can't find anything wrong with it.
If all that port had to do was audio, it would be acceptable.
Did you ever wonder why Apple removes standard functionality from iPhones?
But it's not a port that does one thing anymore.
Did it ever occur to you that you now have to buy back what Apple removed?
So discard the audio jack and put in something far more versatile.
It seems you complain only because you're sorry you bought the wrong phone.
So you make your entire argument that it has been working for a long time. >>>
To you, that's bad.
The reason I bring up the "age" of it is to illustrate that it was a
solution for a time.
The reason you bring up that it has been working for a long time is you
don't like that it "just works" and has "just worked" for a very long time.
As things evolve we discard what is better done by something else.
You want to buy more stuff to make what Apple took away work again for you.
And of course, if you don't like the absence of the audio jack, that
just limits your choices.
Again you complain that the iPhone lacking the jack limited your choices,
so you're tacitly admitting your problem is you bought the wrong phone.
If you had a phone with the jack, you'd have all those choices you lack.
On 12/2/2023 7:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
And a very basic tip for you:And (Pro tip follows): If you don't like what Apple does, there is >>>>>> nobody forcing you to buy their products.
Pro tip to you. I didn't make the mistake of buying an Apple
product that
is missing basic things. You did. I'm not making up excuses. You are. >>>>
Features exist to provide functionality. The "basic thing" is the
functionality, not the feature that delivers it.
The headphone jack provides ONE functionality: connecting to audio
devices
such as earbuds, earphones, speakers.
The headphone jack used to provide two functionalities to some phones:
connecting audio devices, and connecting an antenna for the FM radio.
Only some phones have FM radio, and I neither know nor care whether
iPhones do.
The newer Samsung phones do not have headphone jacks or FM radio
either. It has simply become a niche tech that most people do not need
and eventually the removal *will* ripple down product lines to all
models of phones from almost every maker (the exception being some
niche makers with high priced, low production models).
Those who don't like it will simply have to deal with it and no amount
of whining by the cross-posting anti-Apple nutter trolls will ever
change that fact.
Anyone who keeps whining about it will simply get put in my killfile
as the morons they are.
Given most Android phones have the aux port (yes, even most Samsung phones) why is it only the Apple iPhone owners who are whining that they can't do what most Android phones have always been able to do with the aux port?
It's their fault they bought the iPhone that lacked all the basic hardware. Now they have to deal with that loss by buying more things to make it work.
Your excuse for your iPhone not being a capable phone is ridiculous because >> anyone on any phone can add bluetooth earbuds - whether Apple or Samsung.
Why did Samsung remove the jack on many of its higher end phones?
Beyond wheels I don't know of anything all that enduring that hasn't
been replaced by something better. Although wheels themselves
continuously evolve - haven't seen wood, tallow lubricated wheel hubs in
a while ...
For some reason, they keep telling us that the only reason it was removed
by Apple is that it had been working just fine for a very long time.
That is a silly statement.
And of course as soon as Apple broke the mold, Samsung followed. Par.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
What I said was you are confused by your own argument that the only thing >>> that seems to matter to you is the date something useful was invented.
Not confused at all. Oceans of clarity here. And it's not the only
thing that matters. Had you been in on this (and other discussions of
the kind) earlier that would be clear to you.
You condescendingly claim that it's not clear to me that your entire
argument hinges singularly on the technology working for a very long time.
Most consumers aren't even aware that their phone could be used as an FM radio...
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
Your excuse for your iPhone not being a capable phone is ridiculous because >>> anyone on any phone can add bluetooth earbuds - whether Apple or Samsung. >>Why did Samsung remove the jack on many of its higher end phones?
Good question.
Probably for the same reason that Apple removed the jack.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
Beyond wheels I don't know of anything all that enduring that hasn't
been replaced by something better. Although wheels themselves
continuously evolve - haven't seen wood, tallow lubricated wheel hubs in
a while ...
You keep using the word "replaced" as if you believe that something was replaced. But all you've said was something was removed that was working.
You keep using the word "replaced" as if you believe that something was
replaced. But all you've said was something was removed that was working.
To be clear, the functionality remains, the form of it remains.
Like wheels today use steel bearings lubricated with synthetic grease
and not wood lubricated with tallow.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
You keep using the word "replaced" as if you believe that something wasTo be clear, the functionality remains, the form of it remains.
replaced. But all you've said was something was removed that was working. >>
Like wheels today use steel bearings lubricated with synthetic grease
and not wood lubricated with tallow.
In other words, your thought process was absurd because they removed it.
They didn't replace it with anything. YOU REPLACED IT WITH SOMETHING.
Alan Browne <[email protected]> wrote:
You keep using the word "replaced" as if you believe that something wasTo be clear, the functionality remains, the form of it remains.
replaced. But all you've said was something was removed that was working. >>
Like wheels today use steel bearings lubricated with synthetic grease
and not wood lubricated with tallow.
In other words, your thought process was absurd because they removed it.
They didn't replace it with anything. YOU REPLACED IT WITH SOMETHING.
Arno Welzel <[email protected]> wrote:
I only needed to search for 30 seconds.
You win - 100 points! Congratulations!!!!
Instead of blurting childish insults why not just apologize for being wrong >>> and for not thinking before you posted what you posted about aux ports?
"You win" is not enough?
Whatever you say is "enough" if you get into your thick skull that most Android models sold today have the very useful ports, slots & radios.
On 2023-11-26 23:59, Alan wrote:[...]
But what percentage of people USE those ports?
What percentage uses any particular feature or app?
Does a feature need to have 90% usage in order not not be removed?
Does a feature need to have 90% usage in order not not be removed?
Features get removed when vendors realize, that they still can sell a
product without it. The number of people who use that feature is
irrelevant as long as they still buy devices without it.
On 4/12/2023, Arno Welzel wrote:
Does a feature need to have 90% usage in order not not be removed?
Features get removed when vendors realize, that they still can sell a
product without it. The number of people who use that feature is
irrelevant as long as they still buy devices without it.
But that's not what is happening here because most Android phones have it.
So Android resale values don't have to add buying what was removed.
What's happening here is nobody who is on Android is complaining about the loss of the functionality - it's only the Apple people who are complaining.
And that makes sense because only the Apple phones don't have it at all. That's why Apple resale value has to account for buying what was removed.
The Apple people have lost no functionality.
On 12/4/2023 8:32 PM, Alan wrote:
The Apple people have lost no functionality.
Your argument that it has "lost no functionality" is absurd.
Especially given Apple removed all basic hardware (which includes
not only basic jacks, but also slots, radios, & chargers).
Try this in order to understand why your argument is ridiculous.
Take a phone that has the aux port and plug that port with cement.
How do you do what the port did for you without buying more stuff?
If you buy more stuff just to make it work, then add that to the resale
value calculations. Otherwise, the resale value is a complete farce.
An iPhone is always going to cost more than Android when you take into account the total costs of ownership of constantly making it work again.
After Apple removes all basic hardware (jacks, slots, radios, chargers).
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