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  • Re: If Apple can permanently lock your hardware for not logging into it

    From Your Name@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 24 10:42:07 2022
    XPost: alt.comp.microsoft.windows

    On 2022-02-23 08:24:42 +0000, rabidR04CH said:
    On 2022-02-23 9:04 a.m., Mayayana wrote:
    "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote

    | If people are changing their IP address to hide from Microsoft or Apple
    then
    | they /deserve/ to have their computers shut down by Microsoft and Apple. >> |
    | Why are they hiding?
    | It's almost always to do bad things.
    |

    Where do you get that? They could be hiding from their
    own dictatorial government. Or it might be me just using
    a different computer in a different location. Or they might
    be using a VPN for better privacy protection from the
    likes of Apple and Microsoft. Or maybe they're Ukrainian
    resistance fighters. Not everyone lives in the USA, in
    their parents' basement... Simply put, it's none of their
    damn business who you are or where you're logging in from.

    There's a famous video from Eric Schmidt using your logic:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6e7wfDHzew

    He says that if you have something to hide you probably
    shouldn't be doing it. Schmidt not only leaves out much
    of the world living under oppression, as well as abused
    women and anyone planning a surprise party or simply wanting
    privacy. He also leaves out himself. I read that he got a NYC
    condo with no doorman so that reporters wouldn't be informed
    of his promiscuous lifestyle.

    I like the way you think and agree. Users of an operating should have
    the right to use it from wherever, whenever and feel free to connect to
    a VPN which, at the very least, encrypts the data so that the ISP
    itself cannot monitor them to the advantage of an oppressive government.

    It's nonsense. If it's an "oppressive governments" which is restricting
    which websites their population can access, then that will purposely
    include using VPN services as well. :-\

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  • From Andy Burnelli@21:1/5 to Jacob Jones on Mon Feb 28 15:28:48 2022
    XPost: alt.comp.microsoft.windows, comp.sys.mac.apps

    Jacob Jones wrote:

    If it were criminal to force a login into the iCloud, they'd be sued.

    You aren't foced to login to the iCloud.

    This post is for adults as it contains adult content.

    The iKook nospam is wrong again.
    1. The iKooks only do exactly what Apple tells them to do
    2. So the iKooks have no idea what Apple does when you don't
    3. I _know_ what Apple does because I _tested_ what Apple will do

    On two separate iPads, what Apple did was consistent.

    A. If you don't log in to the iCloud, Apple will _force_ you to log into it.
    B. If you _still_ don't log into the iCloud, Apple will lock you out.
    C. If you try to unlock using VPN, Apple will disable the device.

    Adults will notice I provided proof and I described the sequence.
    Adults will notice the iKooks like nospam provide nothing but denials.

    The fact is that Apple locks you out of your own device if you break out of
    the walled garden. There is no question of that fact (as I already proved).

    The question is whether or not Microsoft will do the same.
    --
    I don't care that iKooks are uneducated & of low IQ & low self esteem, but _because_ of those things, they are ignorant of what Apple actually does.

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