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Since only Apple devices are designed as dumb terminals, you must have a
login to the Apple mothership - which - Apple can't protect.

So everyone has your login now.
Because you chose to buy a dumb terminal instead of a real computer.

Apple logins with plain text passwords found in massive database of 184M records
<https://9to5mac.com/2025/05/22/apple-logins-with-plain-text-passwords-found-in-massive-database-of-184m-records/>

No other operating system requires a mothership account.
Just Apple.

No wonder Apple devices are the most exploited in the world.
<https://www.cisa.gov/known-exploited-vulnerabilities-catalog>

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On May 22, 2025 at 12:33:07 PM EDT, "Arlen" <[email protected]> wrote:

More bullshit from the master bullshitter.

First, I just changed my Apple password a couple weeks ago. No one has my login.

Second, you always claim you have Apple devices. Do they have YOUR login?

Third, Google is included. Do they have YOUR Google login? Microsoft?
Amazon?

Fourth, this database is tiny. 184 million? BFD. There are around 6 billion computers/phones/tablets in use. Which means this database has maybe 3% of logins. Very remote chance of "everyone now has your login".

Not to mention that this 184 million records contains login info for 12 companies. So why do you focus ONLY on Apple? What if there is a semi-consistent distribution of logins/companies? There may only be around 15 million (more or less) Apple logins.

Not to mention (again) that no one knows how old this data is. Since it is standard procedure to change your passwords regularly, this data could easily be 50% (more or less) junk.

As usual, you don't think very far before you post your wildly inaccurate claims. Lest anyone forget, just a few weeks ago you loudly claimed it was impossible to get a photo from a Windows PC to an iPhone/iPad without using
the internet.

After we proved you were wrong on that absurd claim, you then claimed it was impossible to install a standard SMB Server on an iPhone/iPad. After we proved you wrong on that absurd claim, you finally shut up.

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On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:23:01 +0000, Tyrone wrote :

Third, Google is included. Do they have YOUR Google login? Microsoft?

Everything I said is factually true. You just don't like the facts.

The only common consumer operating system which requires a mothership login just for the device to load software on it are Apple's operating systems.

Android works just fine without a mothership account on the phone.
So does Windows.

It's only Apple devices which are designed as dumb terminals.

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On 2025-05-22 19:51, Marion wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:23:01 +0000, Tyrone wrote :

Third, Google is included. Do they have YOUR Google login? Microsoft?

Everything I said is factually true.

It's not factually true that iOS devices are just "dumb terminals".

Period.

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On May 22, 2025 at 10:51:58 PM EDT, "Marion" <[email protected]> wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2025 00:23:01 +0000, Tyrone wrote :

Third, Google is included. Do they have YOUR Google login? Microsoft?

Everything I said is factually true. You just don't like the facts.

LOL, good one.

So "everyone now has your login" is "factually true"? It's an opinion not
based in reality. Which means it is "non-factually" true in your mind.

Which accounts for 99% of the absurd claims you post.

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On Sat, 24 May 2025 16:17:33 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Which accounts for 99% of the absurd claims you post.

Accurate.

The main point is that because Apple products essentially require a login account to the mothership just to work at the basic level (which no other common consumer operating system requires - just Apple requires it)...

Because the iPhone is designed as a dumb terminal - it has to have a login.
And because it has to have a login - it's vulnerable to these databases.

On my Windows machine, there's only a local account. And it doesn't even
have a password - so being in this database wouldn't allow anyone to log
into Microsoft's servers on my account.

Only Apple *requires* (essentially) that account.
Nobody else.

On my Android phone, for example, there isn't even a PIN because it's not needed. Mainly iOS needs biometrics because it's a dumb system overall.

Apple requires the login to protect them. Not you.
More specifically, they want to protect their mainframe servers.
Not your phone.

Any system that requires a login when none are needed, is poorly designed.

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On 2025-05-24 13:46, Marion wrote:

On Sat, 24 May 2025 16:17:33 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :

Which accounts for 99% of the absurd claims you post.

Accurate.

The main point is that because Apple products essentially require a login account to the mothership just to work at the basic level (which no other common consumer operating system requires - just Apple requires it)...

This is false.

Because the iPhone is designed as a dumb terminal - it has to have a login. And because it has to have a login - it's vulnerable to these databases.

Utterly false.

On my Windows machine, there's only a local account. And it doesn't even
have a password - so being in this database wouldn't allow anyone to log
into Microsoft's servers on my account.

And how is that relevant?

Only Apple *requires* (essentially) that account.
Nobody else.

On my Android phone, for example, there isn't even a PIN because it's not needed. Mainly iOS needs biometrics because it's a dumb system overall.

Even if it were a "dumb terminal", why would that make biometrics necessary?

Apple requires the login to protect them. Not you.
More specifically, they want to protect their mainframe servers.
Not your phone.

Any system that requires a login when none are needed, is poorly designed.

Any system that can have personal information in it should have some
kind of login or PIN.

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