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In article <tvamq8$1i6i6$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

It won't work with another VPN but the Android one has the same problem.

wrong. ios supports simultaneous vpn, whereas android does not.

A huge difference, as always, is that in the walled garden it isn't free

the price that a third party developer chooses for their apps has
nothing to do with any supposed (and non-existent) walls.

there are *other* apps with similar functionality, some of which are
free.

you really are that stupid.

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Jolly Roger wrote:

1Blocker does this now with a local VPN, blocking ads and trackers in
apps. the data stays on on your device.

Shit, you're right. How am I just now seeing this?:

<https://pasteboard.co/e3mbdgwDoZPY.jpg>

Great! One app to rule them all. : )

Thanks Jolly Roger & [email protected]!

Sounds like a good app... I'll see if it works for free on my iPad.
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1blocker-ad-blocker/id1365531024?platform=ipad>

Here's the iPhone IPA for those on the iPhone and not on the iPad.
<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/1blocker-ad-blocker/id1365531024?platform=iphone>

Here's a description of it from the company:
*1Blocker* - Ad Blocker, Block ads, browse better, by 1Blocker LLC
<https://support.1blocker.com/en/articles/6436262-firewall>

It won't work with another VPN but the Android one has the same problem.
<https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard>
Of course, that free Android app does a LOT more than just a firewall
(e.g., it blocks apps on a per-app basis for wifi and/or data); but
if we limit our comparison to the VPN part, both apps use a VPN so they
both limit you to them alone and to no other VPN (at the same time).

A huge difference, as always, is that in the walled garden it isn't free
(at least according to the blurb that explains it over here). <https://www.macstories.net/reviews/1blocker-4-0-adds-in-app-tracker-blocking-with-its-new-firewall-feature/>
"1Blocker 4.0 is a Universal Purchase across all of Apple's platforms
that can be downloaded for free to try one Safari ad-blocking filter
and the app�s Allow List. To unlock the remaining Safari filters
and Firewall, 1Blocker offers a subscription with a two-week free
trial for $2.99 per month or $14.99 per year. There is also a
lifetime purchase option, and the app supports Family Sharing."

Over a twenty year period, that's $300 for the iOS & $0 for the Android
app (which does a lot more than just block ads); but it's better'n nothing.

Thanks Jolly Roger & [email protected], your help is much appreciated.

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nospam wrote:

It won't work with another VPN but the Android one has the same problem.

wrong. ios supports simultaneous vpn, whereas android does not.

A huge difference, as always, is that in the walled garden it isn't free

the price that a third party developer chooses for their apps has
nothing to do with any supposed (and non-existent) walls.

there are *other* apps with similar functionality, some of which are
free.

you really are that stupid.

OK. So I tested it out. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

This is what Jolly Roger looks like when he fell for the marketing gimmick:
<https://img.yumpu.com/6936343/1/500x640/standouts-the-beat-within.jpg>

Free iOS ad blocking 1Blocker firewall only $300 subscription/20 years.
<https://i.postimg.cc/9XtgRz0y/mothership01.jpg> Apple forces periodic login
<https://i.postimg.cc/q73jkvWh/mothership02.jpg> into its mothership trackers
<https://i.postimg.cc/7hmNBGJc/mothership03.jpg> Safari & Chrome work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/GhmK4QZ1/mothership04.jpg> So does Youtube work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/vBv7BghB/mothership05.jpg> No problem with web pages
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjtyVmqp/mothership06.jpg> The walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/ht79m3sN/mothership07.jpg> iMessage walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/5tBL7YZ3/mothership08.jpg> FaceTime walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store works mostly fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store installs apps
<https://i.postimg.cc/FKVkgtLC/mothership11.jpg> But it won't do iCloud
<https://i.postimg.cc/BbX80XwR/mothership12.jpg> 1Blocker Ad Blocker IPA
<https://i.postimg.cc/Dy4Wp4GX/mothership13.jpg> Open 1Blocker Ad Blocker
<https://i.postimg.cc/6pd8tsY6/mothership14.jpg> Open 1Blocker Ad Blocker
<https://i.postimg.cc/1RjnKr8S/mothership15.jpg> Welcome & Get Started
<https://i.postimg.cc/W39DCMSM/mothership16.jpg> Enable Safari extensions
<https://i.postimg.cc/wjJmMRTp/mothership17.jpg> Go to Safari Settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/tRSPMHmL/mothership18.jpg> Safari 1Blocker extensions
<https://i.postimg.cc/W3SrjRpq/mothership19.jpg> Enabled Safari extensions
<https://i.postimg.cc/9F1WpW87/mothership20.jpg> Note 1Blocker Scripts
<https://i.postimg.cc/vHT7YmVY/mothership21.jpg> Enable 1Blocker Scripts
<https://i.postimg.cc/FzsyJrCx/mothership22.jpg> 1Blocker Scripts turned on
<https://i.postimg.cc/pXcZzjH5/mothership23.jpg> Explore Premium Features
<https://i.postimg.cc/660z6Sb0/mothership24.jpg> Works only in Safari
<https://i.postimg.cc/k4PwDddj/mothership25.jpg> Firewall doesn't work
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qxf6mPpt/mothership26.jpg> $300 over 20 years to work

1. On this thread it was said there is an iOS ad blocking firewall
named 1Blocker but when I installed it, it's only for Safari
and even then it only allows a single filter for free and
just for Safari (apparently) and NOT all the apps on the device.
*19 hidden iphone features*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/yS1hplUM6_Y>

Specifically this post:
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/yS1hplUM6_Y/m/IBh4Rpm5BwAJ>

2. HINT: It's classic iOS crippleware. Jolly Roger was duped. Again.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/yS1hplUM6_Y/m/gKg0XV66BwAJ>

3. To make it work costs $300 over a typical period of 20 years.
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/yS1hplUM6_Y/m/xwAaUc3ABwAJ>

As always, the highly touted iOS app is a complete waste of your time,
as it's almost completely crippleware, and worse, if you want to make
it work, it's $300/20 years (whereas on Android, the functionality is
not only free, but open source, and it does far (far!) more for you!
<https://netguard.me/>

Why do iOS owners put up with this garbage, I will never understand.
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On 2023-03-21, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

nospam wrote:

It won't work with another VPN but the Android one has the same
problem.

wrong. ios supports simultaneous vpn, whereas android does not.

A huge difference, as always, is that in the walled garden it isn't
free

the price that a third party developer chooses for their apps has
nothing to do with any supposed (and non-existent) walls.

there are *other* apps with similar functionality, some of which are
free.

you really are that stupid.

OK. So I tested it out. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

Nowhere near as hilarious as your lame trolls.

This is what Jolly Roger looks like when he fell for the marketing gimmick: <https://img.yumpu.com/6936343/1/500x640/standouts-the-beat-within.jpg>

Insults are the last refuge of losers. : )

Free iOS ad blocking 1Blocker firewall only $300 subscription/20 years. <https://i.postimg.cc/9XtgRz0y/mothership01.jpg> Apple forces periodic login <https://i.postimg.cc/q73jkvWh/mothership02.jpg> into its mothership trackers

Neither of these show this supposed "forced login".

<https://i.postimg.cc/7hmNBGJc/mothership03.jpg> Safari & Chrome work fine <https://i.postimg.cc/GhmK4QZ1/mothership04.jpg> So does Youtube work fine <https://i.postimg.cc/vBv7BghB/mothership05.jpg> No problem with web pages

Yes, most apps require mo Apple login.

<https://i.postimg.cc/xjtyVmqp/mothership06.jpg> The walled garden fails <https://i.postimg.cc/ht79m3sN/mothership07.jpg> iMessage walled garden fails <https://i.postimg.cc/5tBL7YZ3/mothership08.jpg> FaceTime walled garden fails

iMessage and FaceTime naturally must be able to talk to Apple servers in
order for basic functionality to work, just as Signal, WhatsApp, and
other similar apps also require server connections and logins to work.
This has nothing to do with a "walled garden". This was a horribly weak
and laughable troll attempt. You're a true 🤡, Arlen.

<https://i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store works mostly fine <https://i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store installs apps <https://i.postimg.cc/FKVkgtLC/mothership11.jpg> But it won't do iCloud

You're just proving me right, left and right! : )

<https://i.postimg.cc/BbX80XwR/mothership12.jpg> 1Blocker Ad Blocker IPA <https://i.postimg.cc/Dy4Wp4GX/mothership13.jpg> Open 1Blocker Ad Blocker <https://i.postimg.cc/6pd8tsY6/mothership14.jpg> Open 1Blocker Ad Blocker <https://i.postimg.cc/1RjnKr8S/mothership15.jpg> Welcome & Get Started <https://i.postimg.cc/W39DCMSM/mothership16.jpg> Enable Safari extensions <https://i.postimg.cc/wjJmMRTp/mothership17.jpg> Go to Safari Settings <https://i.postimg.cc/tRSPMHmL/mothership18.jpg> Safari 1Blocker extensions <https://i.postimg.cc/W3SrjRpq/mothership19.jpg> Enabled Safari extensions <https://i.postimg.cc/9F1WpW87/mothership20.jpg> Note 1Blocker Scripts <https://i.postimg.cc/vHT7YmVY/mothership21.jpg> Enable 1Blocker Scripts <https://i.postimg.cc/FzsyJrCx/mothership22.jpg> 1Blocker Scripts turned on <https://i.postimg.cc/pXcZzjH5/mothership23.jpg> Explore Premium Features

All working fine, without an Apple ID login. Imagine that... : )

<https://i.postimg.cc/660z6Sb0/mothership24.jpg> Works only in Safari <https://i.postimg.cc/k4PwDddj/mothership25.jpg> Firewall doesn't work <https://i.postimg.cc/Qxf6mPpt/mothership26.jpg> $300 over 20 years to work

Naturally, you would rather say it requires over $300 when the truth is:

* the basic app with basic ad blocking is FREE
* the Premium features allow you to run the firewall for OS-level ad
blocking in any app, as well as advanced (even custom) ad blocking
* the Lifetime one-time package is only $38.99 - not $300

Anyone with eyes can see this in the App Store listing. So as always,
your juvenile trolls are *weak*, Arlen.

As always, the highly touted iOS app is a complete waste of your time,

Wrong. The free version of 1Blocker blocks ads in Safari very well.
Nobody claimed the app was completely free, or that there weren't
premium features. You're only bitching and moaning to troll. Not to
mention there are plenty of other ad blockers in the App Store that
*are* free, if you're such a cheap-o you can't spend a dime on something
as crucial as ad blocking.

as it's almost completely crippleware

Translation: eVeRyThInG MuSt bE 100% fReE, oR It's cRiPpLeWaRe, Y'AlL! #IaMvErYsMaRt! 🤡

and worse, if you want to make it work, it's $300/20 years

Wrong. The free version blocks ads in Safari just fine. And the Premium
version with more advanced ad blocking and a OS-level firewall is
available for a one-time payment of $38.99 - $261 less than your bogus
claim.

(whereas on Android, the functionality is not only free, but open
source, and it does far (far!) more for you! <https://netguard.me/>

That app doesn't even block ads, you complete nitwit. 🤣

Why do iOS owners put up with this garbage, I will never understand.

You got that second part right. You'll never understand.

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In article <tvav5c$1ni79$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

It won't work with another VPN but the Android one has the same problem.

wrong. ios supports simultaneous vpn, whereas android does not.

A huge difference, as always, is that in the walled garden it isn't free

the price that a third party developer chooses for their apps has
nothing to do with any supposed (and non-existent) walls.

there are *other* apps with similar functionality, some of which are
free.

you really are that stupid.

OK. So I tested it out. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

not in the way you might hope.

1. On this thread it was said there is an iOS ad blocking firewall
named 1Blocker but when I installed it, it's only for Safari
and even then it only allows a single filter for free and
just for Safari (apparently) and NOT all the apps on the device.

statements such as that indicate that you do not understand how it
works or what it even does, to the surprise of absolutely nobody.

2. HINT: It's classic iOS crippleware. Jolly Roger was duped. Again.

he wasn't the one who was duped.

3. To make it work costs $300 over a typical period of 20 years.

that is very much incorrect.

you're even more stupid than originally thought.

perhaps some photos of a calculator might help.

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On 2023-03-21, nospam <[email protected]d> wrote:

In article <tvav5c$1ni79$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli
<[email protected]> wrote:

It won't work with another VPN but the Android one has the same problem. >> >

wrong. ios supports simultaneous vpn, whereas android does not.

A huge difference, as always, is that in the walled garden it isn't free >> >

the price that a third party developer chooses for their apps has
nothing to do with any supposed (and non-existent) walls.

there are *other* apps with similar functionality, some of which are
free.

you really are that stupid.

OK. So I tested it out. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

not in the way you might hope.

1. On this thread it was said there is an iOS ad blocking firewall
named 1Blocker but when I installed it, it's only for Safari
and even then it only allows a single filter for free and
just for Safari (apparently) and NOT all the apps on the device.

statements such as that indicate that you do not understand how it
works or what it even does, to the surprise of absolutely nobody.

2. HINT: It's classic iOS crippleware. Jolly Roger was duped. Again.

he wasn't the one who was duped.

3. To make it work costs $300 over a typical period of 20 years.

that is very much incorrect.

you're even more stupid than originally thought.

perhaps some photos of a calculator might help.

🤣👍🏼
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In article <[email protected]>, Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

3. To make it work costs $300 over a typical period of 20 years.

that is very much incorrect.

you're even more stupid than originally thought.

perhaps some photos of a calculator might help.

???

his math skills are lacking.

photos of calculators should be easier to find than photos of
arithmetic books.

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nospam wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

3. To make it work costs $300 over a typical period of 20 years.

that is very much incorrect.

you're even more stupid than originally thought.

perhaps some photos of a calculator might help.

???

his math skills are lacking.

photos of calculators should be easier to find than photos of
arithmetic books.

Maybe he got lost in the garden.

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On 2023-03-21, Hank Rogers <[email protected]d> wrote:

nospam wrote:

In article <[email protected]>, Jolly Roger
<[email protected]> wrote:

3. To make it work costs $300 over a typical period of 20 years.

that is very much incorrect.

you're even more stupid than originally thought.

perhaps some photos of a calculator might help.

???

his math skills are lacking.

photos of calculators should be easier to find than photos of
arithmetic books.

Maybe he got lost in the garden.

He was lost long before he even walked outside.

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Jolly Roger wrote:

his math skills are lacking.

photos of calculators should be easier to find than photos of
arithmetic books.

Maybe he got lost in the garden.

He was lost long before he even walked outside.

This is one case where I will easily admit you guys noticed something that
I didn't bother to even notice since there was zero chance I'd pay for that 1Blocker crippleware.

My math was correct, but it was based on the $15/year.

You guys delved deeper to find their lifetime subscription (apparently),
which I'm fine with a priori (so I won't even bother to check it further).

I openly and easily admit I was wrong if you count that if you REALLY
wanted a lifetime subscription, you "probably" wouldn't pay the $15
per year that I calculated - but you'd "probably" pay for whatever the cost nospam said the lifetime subscription was.

My math wasn't wrong ($15x20) but you found a "better" price, and that's
fine. This is something I will put in the badgolferman 'wrong' thread.
*Updating the "wrong - by badgolferman" thread from May 29, 2019*
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/Pg9fi_sV3CU>

Note: I'm not like you iKooks who are exactly like this person depicted:
<https://img.yumpu.com/6936343/1/500x640/standouts-the-beat-within.jpg>

I'm not afraid to own up to my mistakes.
And I don't need to lie to cover up for Apple's flaws like you iKooks do.

The lifetime subscription isn't important to me because what iOS should
have, for free, is a system wide firewall that works as well as NetGuard.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard>
Although you need the sideloaded NetGuard for the ad blocking feature.

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Jolly Roger wrote:

Naturally, you would rather say it requires over $300 when the truth is:

* the basic app with basic ad blocking is FREE

Look Jolly Roger.

I have both Android & iOS and I used all the suggested free firewalls on
both. You don't have both iOS and Android. And you didn't use them.

So listen to me since you are completely ignorant of what you speak of.

I tested that 1Blocker app because Lord knows, iOS needs a good free
firewall that actually works like the free Netguard does for Android.

Unfortunately 1Blocker is unadulterated crapware.

Maybe you need to look at these two screenshots a little more, Jolly Roger.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qxf6mPpt/mothership26.jpg> 1Blocker crippleware

To compare iOS 1Blocker to the free Netguard as a firewall is a joke.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard>

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In article <tvbq2b$1qcuh$[email protected]>, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

Don't listen to me since I am completely ignorant of what I speak of.

ftfy

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On 2023-03-21, Andy Burnelli <[email protected]> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote:

his math skills are lacking.

photos of calculators should be easier to find than photos of
arithmetic books.

Maybe he got lost in the garden.

He was lost long before he even walked outside.

This is one case where I will easily admit you guys noticed something
that I didn't bother to even notice since I am blinded by my
irrational hatred of all things Apple.

Yep. You're a loser troll.

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On Mar 21, 2023, Jolly Roger wrote (in article <news:[email protected]>):

This is one case where I will easily admit you guys noticed something
that I didn't bother to even notice since I am blinded by my
irrational hatred of all things Apple.

Yep. You're a loser troll.

Why is he a loser for him admitting that nospam found a better price than
he did where nospam said his math was wrong, but it wasn't wrong at all.

Why does being open about all that make him a loser in your eyes?

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In article <[email protected]>, Jolly Roger <[email protected]> wrote:

This is one case where I will easily admit you guys noticed
something that I didn't bother to even notice since I am blinded by
my irrational hatred of all things Apple.

Yep. You're a loser troll.

Why is he a loser for him admitting that nospam found a better price

* *I'm* the one who told him of the better price - not nospam.

yep, i only hinted at it.

* Second, the actual price is listed right in the App Store listing.

and in a variety of other places too.

* The reason he purposely over-inflated the price was to *troll*.

which is why he picked a 20 *year* time frame, to artificially inflate
the number.

expecting that in 20 years (or even 10 years), the same app will still
exist, still work, without any newer methods having been developed in
that time, as well as still be the same yearly price is quite the
stretch.

Arlen is only backtracking now in a lame attempt to save face. And you
are either really gullible or actively supporting trolls by siding with
him after the fact.

more accurately, it's another fake nym.

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On 2023-03-22, Bill W <[email protected]> wrote:

On Mar 21, 2023, Jolly Roger wrote (in article
<news:[email protected]>):

This is one case where I will easily admit you guys noticed
something that I didn't bother to even notice since I am blinded by
my irrational hatred of all things Apple.

Yep. You're a loser troll.

Why is he a loser for him admitting that nospam found a better price

* *I'm* the one who told him of the better price - not nospam.
* Second, the actual price is listed right in the App Store listing.
* The reason he purposely over-inflated the price was to *troll*.

Arlen is only backtracking now in a lame attempt to save face. And you
are either really gullible or actively supporting trolls by siding with
him after the fact.

Why does being open about all that make him a loser in your eyes?

He was a loser *long* before any of this. He *literally* spends all day
every day trolling the Apple newsgroups under a never-ending slew of
different nyms. He's been a loser for literal *decades*. And you want to support that? Why?

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nospam wrote:

Don't listen to me since I am completely ignorant of what I speak of.

ftfy

And you wonder why I say you iKooks act like children when you have no
adult defense to the facts.

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