XPost: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy
This post clearly outlines the difference between iKooks and adults.
badgolferman wrote:
Well, I never claimed to be anything but an end user.
Hi badgolferman,
You are an end user. As is Ant. As am I. We just want to know the facts.
What's _different_ about us, from the iKooks in particular, is we don't
gloat when Microsoft, Google, Canonical or Apple make huge profits off us.
For any of them to make ungodly profits off of us would be a bad thing.
It would mean we're stupid.
We can accept the good and the bad about each of those companies.
But we don't religiously defend any one of them to the death.
Specifically, unlike the iKooks, we won't lie for them.
We have morals. Honor. Fealty to the truth. Allegiance to the facts.
That's because our ego isn't built into their operating systems.
We don't care what the truth happens to be.
We just want to know what the truth _is_.
If my phone is inferior and susceptible to security risks, I will
deal with it when the time comes.
You don't understand me if that's what you think is the message.
The message that I convey is not that - my message is the truth.
The truth can be good. It can be bad. It can be a bit of both.
But it's _always_ the truth.
That's what separates both you and me from the likes of Steve & nospam.
All I want from _you_ is for _you_ to understand the truth.
Nothing more. Nothing less.
I just want it to work properly and do the things I
want. For the most part my iPhone 14 achieves those goals, but as you
know I can find shortcomings and annoyances with it as well.
Again, I don't know if you understand me by you explaining that, because
I'm the same as you are with Android, Windows, iOS, and Linux.
I'm not in love with Microsoft.
I'm not in love with Google.
I'm not in love with Apple.
I'm not in love with Canonical.
My allegiance is to truth; not to any one of those motherships.
I tell the truth for all of them.
On an Android newsgroup, on a Linux newsgroup, on a Windows newsgroup and
on an Apple newsgroup - I simply tell the truth by providing the facts, and
by providing assessments of those facts (which people can disagree with).
If I make a mistake - I admit it.
You know this to be true.
You know _everything_ I'm saying to be true.
What frustrated me was how little you knew about both iOS and Android,
and that people were feeding you completely incorrect information.
I apologize for being frustrated with you and hence being short.
I wrote that off the cuff - as I write this - so it's from my heart.
You know how _different_ I am from Steve and the iKooks.
*Simply stated... I have morals. They don't.*
As I've
mentioned before there are certain apps on my phone I find essential
which aren't available on Android, and I don't want to learn a new
operating system.
What app is it that you feel the functionality doesn't exist on Android?
I'll look to see if it does.
You do not have to take me up on this offer, but it's my assessment (note
the difference between a fact and an assessment of facts please) that there will almost never (if ever) be any app _functionality_ on iOS (all by its
itty bitty self) that isn't (usually already) on Android.
I stated the logical sensible factual reasons for that assessment, which
can be (too-simply) summarized as "Apple locks apps out; Google can't".
I'm quite sure you have "apps" on iOS which aren't on Android; but I'm not
so sure you have app _functionality_ on iOS which isn't on Android for the reasons I stated above.
Having said that, I'm quite sure there are similar app functionalities on
both platforms (e.g., news apps) which you might like better - but that's a completely different argument that I am not ever going to defend as that's never what I'm saying.
I'm also quite sure there are apps that play nice in the walled garden,
i.e., with your Mac for example, that aren't on Android; but again, that's
why I'm always speaking of app functionality on iOS not on Android all by
its itty bitty self since Apple does play well inside the walled garden.
With all that in mind, you just saying what you said without mentioning the apps is like saying your neighbors are nicer than are mine - where I can't disprove or prove your statement until and unless you tell me the app.
Steve does the same thing, and, of course, it's nospam's signature to claim every app that ever existed on iOS is better than any app for Android.
What app is it that you feel the functionality doesn't exist on Android?
If that makes me ignorant and frustrates you then we
will have to both live with that.
I'm sorry for intimating you were ignorant of how iOS and Android update.
You have to understand I've worked with super intelligent people my whole
life, and now that I'm retired living in the mountains, I am more on the Internet than I ever was - and well - the world just isn't the same.
What frustrates me with you was that I _expect_ Steve and the iKooks to be completely ignorant of anything that's ever said about Android or iOS.
But I had expected you to know more than you do.
It's my fault. Not yours.
I apologize.
In the meantime I find you
entertaining and informative so I will continue to watch your messages,
but I have no inclination to switch to Android in the near future.
I have absolutely zero desire to be entertaining, and, in fact, I've said
many times that the iKooks are on Usenet merely for their own amusement.
I'm sure I entertain people like Alan Browne who probably has an IQ no
higher than 50, but that's like saying kicking dogs amuses Alan Browne.
To be entertaining to an iKook takes nothing more than a moving slinky.
What I want to be is informative, and I wish to stress nobody on this
newsgroup (or any newsgroup for that matter) has ever found my stated facts
to be wrong.
If I say that iOS has more zero-day holes than Android, that's a fact.
Of course, the iKooks won't _believe_ that fact.
They'll scream bloody murder, in fact, saying that it's wrong.
They'll ask for proof. And then ask again. And again. And again.
They'll _never_ click on the links that I provide backing up that fact.
Hence, what _you_ see, is me stating a fact that is hard for you to
believe, which is that iOS has more zero-day holes than Android, and then
all you see are a zillion iKooks denying that fact.
It never occurs to you that the iKooks can never supply a counter fact.
That is the part that frustrated me about you, badgolferman.
You _believe_ the iKooks... not all of them... and not all the time.
But for you to not believe me _because_ an iKook denied facts - is
troublesome for me about you (or about anyone).
You have to assess the _credibility_ of the person.
My credibility is stellar.
If, perchance, I'm wrong, I'll simply admit it and learn from it.
That's why I'm so knowledgeable badgolferman. Because I care.
In addition, I defer to those who know far more than I do, which,
sometimes, actually is Steve or nospam (but never the others).
For example, I often not only buy but recommend to others the hardware that Steve researches, and if nospam ever says the truth, I defer to him too.
But what you need to understand about me, badgolferman, is that I'm a
person who cares that people get the _correct_ answer, whatever it is.
People like nospam and Steve have no loyalty to the truth.
If they speak the truth, it's only an accident if truth lines up with their agenda.
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