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    From Eli the Bearded@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 12 20:40:41 2021
    This is an older (2018) blog post about a concurrency method the author
    has implemented as a Python library. There's nothing inherently Python
    about the method, and the title makes reference to the command used in
    Go (golang) for creating new threads while also referencing the famous
    Dijkstra piece. Along the way it has a detour through FLOW-MATIC[*] for
    anyone who really doesn't understand _what_ Dijkstra was complaining
    about in "Goto Considered Harmful".

    Notes on structured concurrency, or: Go statement considered harmful

    https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/

    It's a pretty good read and persuasive about issues with current
    concurrency.

    Elijah
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    [*] with the same code example as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOW-MATIC

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  • From Hope Rouselle@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Mon Aug 16 11:19:07 2021
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:

    This is an older (2018) blog post about a concurrency method the author
    has implemented as a Python library. There's nothing inherently Python
    about the method, and the title makes reference to the command used in
    Go (golang) for creating new threads while also referencing the famous Dijkstra piece. Along the way it has a detour through FLOW-MATIC[*] for anyone who really doesn't understand _what_ Dijkstra was complaining
    about in "Goto Considered Harmful".

    Notes on structured concurrency, or: Go statement considered harmful

    https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/

    It's a pretty good read and persuasive about issues with current
    concurrency.

    Wow. I never realized you were a programmer professor-level, say. I
    will read it and share with you my understanding of it. But gimme some
    time.

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  • From Hope Rouselle@21:1/5 to Hope Rouselle on Tue Aug 17 07:53:35 2021
    Hope Rouselle <[email protected]> writes:

    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:

    This is an older (2018) blog post about a concurrency method the author
    has implemented as a Python library. There's nothing inherently Python
    about the method, and the title makes reference to the command used in
    Go (golang) for creating new threads while also referencing the famous
    Dijkstra piece. Along the way it has a detour through FLOW-MATIC[*] for
    anyone who really doesn't understand _what_ Dijkstra was complaining
    about in "Goto Considered Harmful".

    Notes on structured concurrency, or: Go statement considered harmful

    https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/

    It's a pretty good read and persuasive about issues with current
    concurrency.

    Wow. I never realized you were a programmer professor-level, say. I
    will read it and share with you my understanding of it. But gimme some
    time.

    I printed it out yesterday, twice. Couldn't get the font larger. Paper
    is now obsolete and, therefore, ignored? :-D

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  • From Hope Rouselle@21:1/5 to Eli the Bearded on Sat Aug 21 14:16:45 2021
    Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> writes:

    This is an older (2018) blog post about a concurrency method the author
    has implemented as a Python library. There's nothing inherently Python
    about the method, and the title makes reference to the command used in
    Go (golang) for creating new threads while also referencing the famous Dijkstra piece. Along the way it has a detour through FLOW-MATIC[*] for anyone who really doesn't understand _what_ Dijkstra was complaining
    about in "Goto Considered Harmful".

    Notes on structured concurrency, or: Go statement considered harmful

    https://vorpus.org/blog/notes-on-structured-concurrency-or-go-statement-considered-harmful/

    It's a pretty good read and persuasive about issues with current
    concurrency.

    Really good read. Thank you. It hasn't been easy to find good reads
    like that. I keep on reading good stuff, but usually they are papers
    from decades ago.

    Very nice summary of the meaning of these various concurrency primitives
    out there in so many different languages. Also appreciated the
    connection back to the sources --- Dijkstra /et alia/.

    Why do I like it? I think it's because the author is concerned with
    *clarity*, *generality*, guarantees. Sometimes it seems nobody cares
    about these things.

    What did I miss? I didn't see any mention to continuations.

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