• Banning Social Media For Under-16s

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 15 07:22:18 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese
    for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the instigator of the Aussie law <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

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  • From Richmond@21:1/5 to Petzl on Thu May 15 13:15:06 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Petzl <[email protected]> writes:

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote

    Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
    under-16s,

    And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.

    No chance in reality

    and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an interview, by
    Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the Aussies insist on
    calling the state Chief Ministers in their Federation -- don’t they
    know that “Premier” is shortened journalese for “Prime Minister”?) >>> of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the instigator of the Aussie
    law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law
    would be “unworkable”.

    Corse it is

    Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage smoking, drinking and
    now social media are never 100% effective. But they greatly reduce
    the incidence of the activity, and that is what leads to harm
    reduction.

    That last remains to be seen

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police
    themselves is never going to work.

    Just as true of the ban

    Because if it had worked, we would have seen the results, after more
    than 20 years of their activities. The fact that things are, if
    anything, worse now than when they started, shows the uselessness of
    trusting them.

    The ban is even more useless

    Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites, it failed These
    snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past

    It is more likely to be about pointing the finger of blame than
    achieving anything. Once there is a law requiring social media companies
    to ban, the government can say it is their fault for not doing it.

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Richmond on Thu May 15 23:00:03 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 13:15:06 +0100, Richmond wrote:

    It is more likely to be about pointing the finger of blame than
    achieving anything. Once there is a law requiring social media companies
    to ban, the government can say it is their fault for not doing it.

    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up their act.

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri May 16 09:20:54 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    In aus.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be "unworkable". Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Rubbish, it'll be easy for kids to fake the ID requirement. That
    idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s. While of coure ensuring the
    government can track every honest adult social media user who does
    verify using their real ID.

    Even if it did work it'd only push kids to using other social media
    sites that don't obey the government anyway.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    The government will only be more inept at it. but really this is
    about them tracking people rather than solving a problem anyway.

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to Computer Nerd Kev on Thu May 15 20:40:50 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Computer Nerd Kev <[email protected]d> wrote:
    Rubbish, it'll be easy for kids to fake the ID requirement. That
    idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s. While of coure ensuring the
    government can track every honest adult social media user who does
    verify using their real ID.

    My friend in 7th grade got his father's Playboy Club key and we
    even figured out how to get there on the city bus, but we didn't
    actually have the guts to try it.

    Technology changes but kids never do.
    --scott

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Computer Nerd Kev on Fri May 16 01:13:45 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On 16 May 2025 09:20:54 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

    That idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s.

    You mean, more than they do so already?

    The government will only be more inept at it.

    Who would do a better job? Certainly not the companies themselves. So who?

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  • From Computer Nerd Kev@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri May 16 12:21:20 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    In aus.computers Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On 16 May 2025 09:20:54 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
    That idiotic law effectively just enforced a compulsory course on
    identity fraud for under 16s.

    You mean, more than they do so already?

    Yep. They can nick booze and smokes off their parents without
    needing to commit fraud, and this fraud can all be done from their
    bedroom.

    The government will only be more inept at it.

    Who would do a better job? Certainly not the companies themselves. So who?

    The Chinese Communist Party would probably do fairly well at it if
    they took power here. Not worth the trade-offs IMHO.

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  • From MightyMouse@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri May 16 14:14:24 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 13:15:06 +0100, Richmond wrote:

    It is more likely to be about pointing the finger of blame than
    achieving anything. Once there is a law requiring social media companies
    to ban, the government can say it is their fault for not doing it.
    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up their act.

    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and mining data

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to MightyMouse on Fri May 16 04:55:32 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 14:14:24 +1000, MightyMouse wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up
    their act.

    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and mining
    data

    Precisely. How do we make them care? The only force they understand is
    legal force.

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  • From vallor@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 15:37:30 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 15:31:03 +1000, "Rod Speed" <[email protected]>
    wrote in <[email protected]>:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote
    MightyMouse wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote

    It *is* their fault. Remember, they’ve had over 20 years to clean up >>>> their act.

    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and
    mining data

    Precisely. How do we make them care?

    Not possible

    The only force they understand is legal force.

    Just not possible for that to work in this situation

    Also need a definition of what constitutes "social media".

    Does email count? How about Usenet?

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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to Lawrence D'Oliveiro on Fri May 16 15:43:02 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Fri, 16 May 2025 14:14:24 +1000, MightyMouse wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    It *is* their fault. Remember, they?ve had over 20 years to clean up
    their act.

    yes, but they don't care. all they car about is making money and mining data

    Precisely. How do we make them care? The only force they understand is
    legal force.

    Legal force or/and very large sums of money. That's what we try in the EU/Europe. But then they engage their current mob of schoolyard bulleys,
    who threaten us with all kinds of extreme and evil actions.

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  • From BR@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 17 08:29:43 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the �Premier� (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don�t they know that �Premier� is shortened journalese
    for �Prime Minister�?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be �unworkable�. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access. This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not politicians.

    Bill.

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  • From Tony@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 16 21:25:48 2025
    XPost: aus.computers, nz.general

    BR <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><[email protected]d> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for >>under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the �Premier� (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don�t they know that �Premier� is shortened journalese
    for �Prime Minister�?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the >>instigator of the Aussie law >><https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be �unworkable�. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access. This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not >politicians.

    Bill.
    Indeed so.

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  • From MightyMouse@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 17 12:39:36 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese >> for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not politicians.

    Bill.



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  • From MightyMouse@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Sat May 17 22:38:44 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
    under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese >>>> for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
    instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.


    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy


    people are already doing it

      This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not
    politicians.

    Bill.




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  • From Frank Slootweg@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 17 17:29:05 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    BR <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for >under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the ?Premier? (as the
    Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don?t they know that ?Premier? is shortened journalese
    for ?Prime Minister??) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the >instigator of the Aussie law ><https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
    be ?unworkable?. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
    smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
    they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
    leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen
    the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
    that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.

    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
    for internet access. This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not politicians.

    Indeed. And the majority of parents are doing *such* a good job of it
    and know *exactly* what their children are (not) doing.

    BTW, I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, quite cheap,
    honest!

    BTW2, I'm sure many countries already *do* have "some sort of digital
    ID". For example in The Netherlands we have DigiD. And you don't have to require that for "internet access" and not even for web access, but only
    to access 'social media'. As to 'the government': No need to get your
    knickers in a twist with *them*, because - as Lawrence indicates -, the
    'social media' companies are the bad guys. Government should try to get
    *them* under control and require them to require digital ID from their
    users, users of any age, so the filth-spouting 'keyboard knights' are
    also accountable.

    BTW3, no, we're not using our digital ID system to control access to
    'social media'. Why not? Because also our government is afraid of being
    accused of 'censorship'. Of course accountabilty is not censorship, but
    the 'censorship'-yelling mob doesn't want to hear that, do they?

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sat May 17 14:55:17 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Frank Slootweg <[email protected]d> wrote:
    BR <[email protected]> wrote:

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity, not
    politicians.

    Indeed. And the majority of parents are doing *such* a good job of it
    and know *exactly* what their children are (not) doing.

    Which is why online controls won't work, because they won't have support
    of many parents... and the parents who are willing to do the work to
    support them are the ones who won't need them.

    When I was 16 I snuck into movie theatres to watch x-rated movies, which
    is probably more harmful than watching them on one's phone and certainly requires far more effort. No matter what rules you put in place, kids
    will find a way around them.

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex rather than
    telling them lies like I got when I was younger.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@21:1/5 to Scott Dorsey on Sun May 18 00:04:36 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Which is why online controls won't work, because they won't have support
    of many parents...

    It is a given, is it not, that those below a certain age are not of
    sufficient maturity to make certain decisions for themselves. That’s why
    our species has the concept of “parents” and “parenting” at all. Only nowadays, society has become so complex that the parents of a child
    cannot, on their own, supply sufficient guidance and care to ensure the
    child grows up the right way. That’s why we have schools and
    schoolteachers, for one thing.

    As the saying goes, “it takes a village to raise a child”. And as Marshall McLuhan pointed out, that “village” is nowadays well and truly global.

    When I was 16 I snuck into movie theatres to watch x-rated movies, which
    is probably more harmful than watching them on one's phone and certainly requires far more effort.

    And therefore you did it less. That’s the difference.

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don’t they?

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 18 12:45:56 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Sun, 18 May 2025 00:04:36 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    Which is why online controls won't work, because they won't have support
    of many parents...

    It is a given, is it not, that those below a certain age are not of >sufficient maturity to make certain decisions for themselves. That�s why
    our species has the concept of �parents� and �parenting� at all. Only >nowadays, society has become so complex that the parents of a child
    cannot, on their own, supply sufficient guidance and care to ensure the
    child grows up the right way. That�s why we have schools and
    schoolteachers, for one thing.

    As the saying goes, �it takes a village to raise a child�. And as Marshall >McLuhan pointed out, that �village� is nowadays well and truly global.

    When I was 16 I snuck into movie theatres to watch x-rated movies, which
    is probably more harmful than watching them on one's phone and certainly
    requires far more effort.

    And therefore you did it less. That�s the difference.

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don�t they?

    They have an objection to reducing profit - even for overseas
    operators. One answer is to make them liable for harassment and not
    picking up predators - that sadly means we will see that behaviour
    continuing, but a fine would give a bigger incentive to stop predatory behaviour early. They also arrange their affairs to minimise taxation
    - a higher rate of GST for social media would help . . .

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun May 18 12:36:45 2025
    XPost: aus.computers

    On Sun, 18 May 2025 09:37:58 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Petzl <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    Petzl <[email protected]> wrote

    Greg Warren Camden Liberal mayor, blown parachuted into Campbelltown
    to be Labors state NSW member of parliament "snout and trotters in
    trough". Labor pay him to go to local pubs for beer and photosgoots
    <https://www.police.nsw.gov.au/news/news_article?sq_content_src=%2BdXJsPWh0dHBzJTNBJTJGJTJGZWJpenByZC5wb2xpY2UubnN3Lmdvdi5hdSUyRm1lZGlhJTJGMTE4NDc3Lmh0bWwmYWxsPTE%3D>
    https://tinyurl.com/22usema3

    Fantasy on Labor paying him

    Not according to my Labor party comity mates

    Just because some fool claims something...

    About 3am on Tuesday 6 May 2025, officers from Campbelltown Police
    Area Command attended a home on Copperfield Drive, Rosemeadow, after
    three men allegedly threatened a 24-year-old female occupant with a
    firearm during a home invasion.

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?

    In my electorate which was guaranteed Labor one till boundaries
    changed

    Your electorate is completely irrelevant

    When they did no doubt the Lib's were trying to make a good impression
    Their MP was a Local cop that lived in Campbelltown, they most
    certainty listened to him and got rid of the 3M streets

    Bullshit

    <https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new-beginning-means-removing-kids-from-the-violence/news-story/d40e03b25b9103e87740e03e9f0a146b>
    https://tinyurl.com/ycmb4nje

    Just because some fuckwit journo claims something...

    New beginning means removing kids from the violence
    ROSEMEADOW residents tell tales of woe about failed attempts to get
    help. They talk about the streets littered with rubbish, homes with
    smashed walls, and junkies.

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?

    Most Certainly when John Fahey went federal, his replacement was Pat
    Farmer guaranteed Lib seat,
    his inauguration speech was concerns about the new John Howard Flight
    Paths, no uncertain terms was told to "Shut the fuck up" by the Lib's

    Bullahir

    Same was happing with their Labor representatives, booth parties are
    not interested in looking after guaranteed seats, parachuting snout
    and trotters in, they don't like locals representing them

    Corse nothing like that ever happened under the Libs, eh ?

    Are the Libs still around? Their copying of Boris Johnson, Trump,
    with a little bit of Luxon from New Zealand, it is no surprise
    Australians rejected them.

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  • From MightyMouse@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Sun May 18 11:45:44 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 22:38:44 +1000, MightyMouse
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Rod Speed wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 12:39:36 +1000, MightyMouse
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    BR wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 07:22:18 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for >>>>>> under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
    interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the >>>>>> Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
    Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese
    for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the >>>>>> instigator of the Aussie law
    <https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.
    One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law
    would
    be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage >>>>>> smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But >>>>>> they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what >>>>>> leads to harm reduction.

    Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police
    themselves
    is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have seen >>>>>> the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact >>>>>> that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started,
    shows
    the uselessness of trusting them.
    Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
    sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required >>>>> for internet access.

    and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

    Fantasy


    people are already doing it

    EVERYONE isnt

    never said it was happening now with everyone. I said it will eventually happen. we have everything on our phones now, ID, drivers licence,
    credit cards, tap and go, etc., it's the next logical step to put all
    this into us. tap and go chip payment was even happening six years go .. https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61008730

    https://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-cybersecurity/from-progress-to-bans-how-close-are-human-microchip-implants

    and Elon Musk has taken it even a step further already .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL6nej4am3c

    and isnt even doing that for their pets
    even tho that is a legal requirement and no govt would
    ever be stupid enough to require that for internet access
    and complete trivial to bypass that even if they did

      This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
    at every opportunity.

    It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity,
    not
    politicians.

    Bill.





    --
    You have the right not to post. If you give up the right not
    to post, anything you post can and will be used against you.

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 12:36:16 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    ooopOn Mon, 19 May 2025 12:26:29 +1000, Peter Jason <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    As usual accomplish nothing and these parasites know it.

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb >>phones for text and voice.
    eg Nokia 2780 >><https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a >>hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months
    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$ >><https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime


    Uncontrollable youth gangs have always been a problem. The early 20th >century brought in legislation to have schooling compulsory up until
    the age of 14. And reform and trade schools sequestered the worst.

    Corporal punishment was routine, and read on...... >https://www.thefreelibrary.com/%22Give+him+a+doing%22%3a+the+birching+of+young+offenders+in+Scotland+(1).-a099019935

    oops..
    https://tinyurl.com/4p2ruabx


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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 12:26:29 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    As usual accomplish nothing and these parasites know it.

    Kids under 21 should not be allowed smart phones, only be allowed dumb
    phones for text and voice.
    eg Nokia 2780 ><https://www.amazon.com.au/Nokia-Unlocked-Universally-Compatible-Carriers/dp/B0D3RWZ39S>
    https://tinyurl.com/y8rfvh9t

    Also get to recognize spare the rod and spoil the child lessons to
    parents how to flog them.
    To many children have little respect nowadays, My town the local cop
    would kick you on the bum, then tell your parents who also gave you a >hammering then you would be mowing lawns at some oldies house for 12
    months
    make parents accountable for their louts actions $$$
    <https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-19/police-to-target-ringleaders-in-youth-crime-crackdown/105070820>
    https://tinyurl.com/mu3fp8za
    NSW Police to target 100 ringleaders in crackdown on youth crime


    Uncontrollable youth gangs have always been a problem. The early 20th
    century brought in legislation to have schooling compulsory up until
    the age of 14. And reform and trade schools sequestered the worst.

    Corporal punishment was routine, and read on...... https://www.thefreelibrary.com/%22Give+him+a+doing%22%3a+the+birching+of+young+offenders+in+Scotland+(1).-a099019935

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  • From Scott Dorsey@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu May 22 09:37:50 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social
    objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it
    provides no context.
    --scott
    --
    "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to Dorsey on Fri May 23 06:59:30 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Thu, 22 May 2025 09:37:50 -0400 (EDT), [email protected] (Scott
    Dorsey) wrote:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
    On Sat, 17 May 2025 14:55:17 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social >objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it >provides no context.
    --scott

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control. In the USA
    various venereal diseases, like clamidia and gonorrhea are out of
    control, especially among blacks. The mechanics of sex must be
    combined with social skills & responsibilities and should be taught
    from a young age. Various religions oppose this mainly in the
    endeavor to breed more adherents, and the costs of caring for bastards
    and gravid mothers.

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 23 11:52:16 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 10:45:18 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    [email protected] (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't
    they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social
    objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the
    right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't
    going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see
    places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it
    provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit
    It is not bullshit. It's common sense.


    In the USA various venereal diseases, like clamidia andgonorrhea are
    out of control, especially among blacks.

    Bullshit
    Look it up! It is not bullshit.

    The mechanics of sex must be combined with social skills&
    responsibilities and should be taught from a young age.

    Not even possible.
    Yes it is. Flog them if they refuse to learn!

    Various religions oppose this mainly inthe endeavor to breed more
    adherents,

    That's not why they do that
    It's the main one!

    and the costs of caring for bastards and gravid mothers.

    In fact the stupid child benefits system actually encourages that
    "Child benefits" do not knock them up?

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Frank Slootweg on Wed Jun 4 10:36:15 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On 17 May 2025 17:29:05 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <[email protected]d> wrote:



    BTW, I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, quite cheap,
    honest!

    Don't buy his tower! Get a proper cast iron one.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 4 10:28:09 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000
    "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Good to see you're still alive and keeping busy; we don't get many proper
    old style trolls any more.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Mike Spencer@21:1/5 to John" on Wed Jun 4 17:14:13 2025
    "Kerr-Mudd, John" <[email protected]> writes:

    On 17 May 2025 17:29:05 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <[email protected]d> wrote:

    BTW, I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, quite cheap,
    honest!

    Don't buy his tower! Get a proper cast iron one.

    Oh, well! If that's your inclination, I have a nice bridge in
    Shropshire that might interest you.

    --
    Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Jun 5 11:53:14 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Fri, 23 May 2025 14:44:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    [email protected] (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't >>>>>> they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social >>>>> objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on the >>>>> right turn out to be social objections when carefully inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't >>>>> going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice
    thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see >>>>> places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that it >>>>> provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    It's common sense.

    Control isnt even possible

    Some control is possible. No one gets it 100% of the time

    In the USA various venereal diseases, like clamidia and
    gonorrhea are out of control, especially among blacks.

    Bullshit

    Look it up!

    Nothing to look up that says anything even remotely like that

    Jesus, every medical book says so,
    They're screwing themselves into an early grave.

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit
    The above is solid gold diamond encrusted truth. Why is everything "bullshit".?


    The mechanics of sex must be combined with social skills&
    responsibilities and should be taught from a young age.

    Not even possible.

    Yes it is. Flog them if they refuse to learn!

    Even sillier than you usually manage and not even legal
    Wot? All the best things are illegal. Look at the USA govt debt!

    Various religions oppose this mainly in
    the endeavor to breed more adherents,

    That's not why they do that

    It's the main one!

    Bullshit it is. If it was, they wouldnt be banning fucking outside marriage Yes they would given the roving stud could be of any religion.


    and the costs of caring for bastards and gravid mothers.

    In fact the stupid child benefits system actually encourages that

    "Child benefits" do not knock them up?

    But is the reason the dregs choose to have the brats, so they dont
    have to work and just put their hand out to the govt instead
    Nevertheless the result is poor-quality bastards.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Mike Spencer on Thu Jun 5 10:26:43 2025
    On 04 Jun 2025 17:14:13 -0300
    Mike Spencer <[email protected]e> wrote:


    "Kerr-Mudd, John" <[email protected]> writes:

    On 17 May 2025 17:29:05 GMT
    Frank Slootweg <[email protected]d> wrote:

    BTW, I have a 300-meter steel tower in Paris for sale, quite cheap,
    honest!

    Don't buy his tower! Get a proper cast iron one.

    Oh, well! If that's your inclination, I have a nice bridge in
    Shropshire that might interest you.

    No sale: sadly I don't have a suitable canyon in my back garden.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Jun 6 07:03:27 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Thu, 05 Jun 2025 18:41:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    [email protected] (Scott Dorsey) wrote
    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote
    Scott Dorsey wrote

    The only solution is to actually educate kids about sex ...

    Not even possible

    Some right-wingers have religious objections to that though, don't >>>>>>>> they?

    Not just right-wingers. Plenty of folks left and center have social >>>>>>> objections to that. (Most of the claimed religious objections on >>>>>>> the right turn out to be social objections when carefully
    inspected.)

    We live in a society that is very messed-up about sex and that isn't >>>>>>> going to change until people see places that are less so. The nice >>>>>>> thing about the internet is that it gives kids an opportunity to see >>>>>>> places that are less so. The bad thing about the internet is that >>>>>>> it provides no context.

    There has to be some balance between freedom and control.

    Bullshit

    It is not bullshit.

    Its complete and utter bullshit

    It's common sense.

    Control isnt even possible

    Some control is possible.

    Nope and it never has been

    As with every law 100% is not possible. But they work most of the
    time!


    No one gets it 100% of the time
    Well, you screw me over 100% of the time!

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  • From noel@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Fri Jun 6 16:08:28 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 07:48:20 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they
    had you ya inbred disease

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to noel on Sat Jun 7 09:49:01 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On 6 Jun 2025 16:08:28 +1000, noel <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 07:48:20 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they
    had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

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  • From MightyMouse@21:1/5 to Peter Jason on Sat Jun 7 16:53:18 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Peter Jason wrote:
    On 6 Jun 2025 16:08:28 +1000, noel <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 07:48:20 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant
    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they
    had you ya inbred disease
    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many
    social problems today. problems that other countries, notably Asian,
    don't have because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching
    societal dictates.

    --
    You have the right not to post. If you give up the right not
    to post, anything you post can and will be used against you.

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  • From MightyMouse@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Sat Jun 7 19:07:56 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    Rod Speed wrote:
    MightyMouse <[email protected]> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense
    that it
    does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed,
    they
    had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored.� After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids.�� I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so
    many social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching� societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    go to Singapore and start tagging buildings and see what happens to you

    --
    You have the right not to post. If you give up the right not
    to post, anything you post can and will be used against you.

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  • From Rich80105@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 8 17:50:04 2025
    XPost: aus.computers

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 15:43:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Petzl <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    Retrograde <[email protected]d> wrote

    For the love of god

    There is no god

    Not what George Washington believed

    Its no news that there are plenty as stupid as you and him

    George Washington
    "The thing that sets the American Christian apart is that he will die
    on his feet before he will live on his knees."

    And that fucker grovelled to some sky fairy on his knees

    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant
    . . .

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  • From Retrograde@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jun 8 06:11:51 2025
    XPost: aus.computers

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:50:04 +1200
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Well Rod Speed is clearly a special kind of aggressive shitpile to
    manually re-add comp.misc to the list of newsgroups before going back
    to his usual blathering stupidity.

    Killfiled and problem solved.

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jun 9 09:26:11 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Sat, 07 Jun 2025 18:37:27 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    MightyMouse <[email protected]> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that it >>>>> does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, they >>>> had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid
    old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have
    the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many
    social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    There is no bullshit. Singapore is famous for admonishing, catching, sequestering and sentencing those refractory brats who daub wall with
    their vandalisms. These vandals are stripped and caned. Hence
    Singapore is almost graffiti free.
    Curiously this has not been taken up in other countries, even though
    it works, and is the cheapest form of punishment there is.
    We, the long suffering taxpayer, has to fork out $quillions to finance
    cleanup operations where a good flogging would so the job for almost
    nothing.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 10 11:38:23 2025
    XPost: nz.general, aus.computers

    On Mon, 09 Jun 2025 10:16:28 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
    MightyMouse <[email protected]> wrote
    Peter Jason wrote
    noel <[email protected]> wrote
    Rod Speed wrote

    Sex education of children has never worked except in the sense that >>>>>>> it does make clear that fucking can make you pregnant

    Sex education with adults never works either, your parents failed, >>>>>> they had you ya inbred disease

    Yes, we should direct our attention to adults, especially the Hominid >>>>> old farts who will not be tutored. After all it's the adults who have >>>>> the feral kids. I have long recommended the re-introduction of
    corporal punishment to adequately correct, admonish, instruct and
    improve the condition of randy sticky-fingered teen creatures.

    the lack of discipline at all levels in society is why we have so many >>>> social problems today.

    Bullshit

    problems that other countries, notably Asian,don't have

    More bullshit

    because they punish people for bad behaviour and breaching societal
    dictates.

    More bullshit

    There is no bullshit.

    It is nothing but bullshit

    Singapore is famous for admonishing, catching,
    sequestering and sentencing those refractory brats who daub wall with
    their vandalisms.

    Pity its a microscopic subset of asia
    So? Perhaps the rest of Asia should follow!

    These vandals are stripped and caned.

    Bullshit on the stripped
    Picky picky, Bared then?

    Hence Singapore is almost graffiti free.

    Pity about the rest of asia which isnt
    Irrelevant!

    Curiously this has not been taken up in other countries, even though
    it works, and is the cheapest form of punishment there is.

    We, the long suffering taxpayer, has to fork out $quillions

    More bullshit
    It is not bullshit at all. Clean-up crews are at it all the time!

    to finance
    cleanup operations where a good flogging would so the job for almost
    nothing.

    Costs heaps to find the culprits, fuckwit
    Rubbish! A simple stake-out would do it.

    Let me say I'm appalled by your negativism!

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Jun 10 11:39:45 2025
    XPost: aus.computers

    On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 06:11:51 -0600, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:50:04 +1200
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Well Rod Speed is clearly a special kind of aggressive shitpile to
    manually re-add comp.misc to the list of newsgroups before going back
    to his usual blathering stupidity.

    Killfiled and problem solved.

    Relax; I'm still educating that Hominid.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Peter Jason on Tue Jun 10 08:08:47 2025
    XPost: aus.computers

    On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 11:39:45 +1000
    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sun, 8 Jun 2025 06:11:51 -0600, Retrograde
    <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On Sun, 08 Jun 2025 17:50:04 +1200
    Rich80105 <[email protected]> wrote:
    please drop comp.misc from this stupid pissing match of a
    conversation.

    Get fucked
    I suspect that none of the Newsgroups it is being sent to are relevant

    Well Rod Speed is clearly a special kind of aggressive shitpile to
    manually re-add comp.misc to the list of newsgroups before going back
    to his usual blathering stupidity.

    Killfiled and problem solved.

    Relax; I'm still educating that Hominid.

    You have no chance; 'Rod' has been annoying usenet for decades.

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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