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  • Dead End with Eudora Pro

    From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 17 18:26:57 2023
    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All was
    good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45. Eudora
    gave me error messages about checking email using plain text and not using
    SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if so, did
    you solve it and how?

    TIA.

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  • From Frederick@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 15 14:03:10 2023
    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All
    was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45.
    Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text
    and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there
    was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was
    blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was
    talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if
    so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Talland Keen on Mon May 15 14:14:07 2023
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:24:39 PM UTC-4, Talland Keen wrote:
    About a month after your post and I have having problems with Eudora 7 with my IP provider.
    I run both Thunderbird and Eudora and Thunderbird is still working.
    Eudora has SSL negotiation problems.

    So sad to loose Eudora since T-bird works but is so slow and awkward.

    dk
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Frederick wrote:
    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All
    was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45. Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text
    and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there
    was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if
    so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?

    There are solutions to the SSL issues. I don't know all the details, but others have described it here several times. I have used Eudora on my PCs since Windows 95, and continue to use it on each new machine simply by copying the Eudora folder over.

    I am a bit tired of the growing display problems, because of relying on Internet Explorer or some other very old software to format the emails in the Eudora window. I receive a number of important emails (banking for example) that simply don't display
    in Eudora, and have to be opened in a browser. Fortunately Eudora has a button for that.

    There's also Hermes, which I have not looked into personally. I tried using Thunderbird for a while (for usenet before email) only to have it crap out on me with no clear path to recovery. I switched to Seamonkey since it would accept the data files.
    But it crapped out a year later. I could test those with usenet without worrying about losing emails. Switching to Hermes would put all my email data in those hands. So, for now, I'm sticking with Eudora and its quirks.

    --

    Rick C.

    - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From Talland Keen@21:1/5 to Frederick on Mon May 15 13:24:38 2023
    About a month after your post and I have having problems with Eudora 7 with my IP provider.
    I run both Thunderbird and Eudora and Thunderbird is still working.
    Eudora has SSL negotiation problems.

    So sad to loose Eudora since T-bird works but is so slow and awkward.

    dk


    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Frederick wrote:
    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All
    was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45.
    Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text
    and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there
    was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was
    blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was
    talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if
    so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 16 04:24:53 2023
    On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 22:14:08 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:24:39 PM UTC-4, Talland Keen wrote:
    About a month after your post and I have having problems with Eudora 7 with my IP provider.
    I run both Thunderbird and Eudora and Thunderbird is still working.
    Eudora has SSL negotiation problems.

    So sad to loose Eudora since T-bird works but is so slow and awkward.

    dk
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Frederick wrote:
    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45. Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if
    so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?
    There are solutions to the SSL issues. I don't know all the details, but others have described it here several times. I have used Eudora on my PCs since Windows 95, and continue to use it on each new machine simply by copying the Eudora folder over.

    I am a bit tired of the growing display problems, because of relying on Internet Explorer or some other very old software to format the emails in the Eudora window. I receive a number of important emails (banking for example) that simply don't display
    in Eudora, and have to be opened in a browser. Fortunately Eudora has a button for that.

    There's also Hermes, which I have not looked into personally. I tried using Thunderbird for a while (for usenet before email) only to have it crap out on me with no clear path to recovery. I switched to Seamonkey since it would accept the data files.
    But it crapped out a year later. I could test those with usenet without worrying about losing emails. Switching to Hermes would put all my email data in those hands. So, for now, I'm sticking with Eudora and its quirks.

    You won't be putting your email data in anyone's hands with Hermes. Hermes is just a rebuilt version of Eudora, which will hopefully work with modern protocols and display messages correctly. It's now been renamed Aurora, and it's only at alpha stage at
    the moment, but it's looking promising.
    It is from the same people who were behind the original Hermes project, which was (and is) simply an updated set of files to enable Eudora to communicate with servers using TLS 1.2, which is becoming mandatory for most email providers. It's been
    discussed here many times.

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  • From geo@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 16 04:54:48 2023
    Comcast started to require TLS v 1.2 on April 18, the same date Cox started too. https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/tls

    The fix is here: https://www.maclean.com/downloads/QCSSL_Update.zip which is Pete Maclean's Hermes SSL fix, updated with instructions. Pete is the Hermes coder, the only one, which is why it is slow going.

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  • From Talland Keen@21:1/5 to geo on Tue May 16 09:38:54 2023
    I used Pete's patch and it did not work immediately. Then messed around with settings because elsewhere someone said, "Do remember to put it on "Required, alternate port", because "Required startTLS" will not work !!!!! "

    And sure enuf, now it works! My Eudora is ALIVE AGAIN!

    Thx all ya all.
    dk

    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 4:54:50 AM UTC-7, geo wrote:
    Comcast started to require TLS v 1.2 on April 18, the same date Cox started too. https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/tls

    The fix is here: https://www.maclean.com/downloads/QCSSL_Update.zip which is Pete Maclean's Hermes SSL fix, updated with instructions. Pete is the Hermes coder, the only one, which is why it is slow going.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 16 10:32:59 2023
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 7:24:56 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 22:14:08 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:24:39 PM UTC-4, Talland Keen wrote:
    About a month after your post and I have having problems with Eudora 7 with my IP provider.
    I run both Thunderbird and Eudora and Thunderbird is still working. Eudora has SSL negotiation problems.

    So sad to loose Eudora since T-bird works but is so slow and awkward.

    dk
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Frederick wrote:
    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45. Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?
    There are solutions to the SSL issues. I don't know all the details, but others have described it here several times. I have used Eudora on my PCs since Windows 95, and continue to use it on each new machine simply by copying the Eudora folder over.

    I am a bit tired of the growing display problems, because of relying on Internet Explorer or some other very old software to format the emails in the Eudora window. I receive a number of important emails (banking for example) that simply don't
    display in Eudora, and have to be opened in a browser. Fortunately Eudora has a button for that.

    There's also Hermes, which I have not looked into personally. I tried using Thunderbird for a while (for usenet before email) only to have it crap out on me with no clear path to recovery. I switched to Seamonkey since it would accept the data files.
    But it crapped out a year later. I could test those with usenet without worrying about losing emails. Switching to Hermes would put all my email data in those hands. So, for now, I'm sticking with Eudora and its quirks.

    You won't be putting your email data in anyone's hands with Hermes. Hermes is just a rebuilt version of Eudora, which will hopefully work with modern protocols and display messages correctly. It's now been renamed Aurora, and it's only at alpha stage
    at the moment, but it's looking promising.
    It is from the same people who were behind the original Hermes project, which was (and is) simply an updated set of files to enable Eudora to communicate with servers using TLS 1.2, which is becoming mandatory for most email providers. It's been
    discussed here many times.

    Hermes is not an ISP. So your statements are pointless about that.

    --

    Rick C.

    + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 16 12:11:44 2023
    On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 18:33:00 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 7:24:56 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 22:14:08 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:24:39 PM UTC-4, Talland Keen wrote:
    About a month after your post and I have having problems with Eudora 7 with my IP provider.
    I run both Thunderbird and Eudora and Thunderbird is still working. Eudora has SSL negotiation problems.

    So sad to loose Eudora since T-bird works but is so slow and awkward.

    dk
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Frederick wrote:
    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All
    was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45. Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text
    and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there
    was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was
    blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email
    servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?
    There are solutions to the SSL issues. I don't know all the details, but others have described it here several times. I have used Eudora on my PCs since Windows 95, and continue to use it on each new machine simply by copying the Eudora folder over.


    I am a bit tired of the growing display problems, because of relying on Internet Explorer or some other very old software to format the emails in the Eudora window. I receive a number of important emails (banking for example) that simply don't
    display in Eudora, and have to be opened in a browser. Fortunately Eudora has a button for that.

    There's also Hermes, which I have not looked into personally. I tried using Thunderbird for a while (for usenet before email) only to have it crap out on me with no clear path to recovery. I switched to Seamonkey since it would accept the data
    files. But it crapped out a year later. I could test those with usenet without worrying about losing emails. Switching to Hermes would put all my email data in those hands. So, for now, I'm sticking with Eudora and its quirks.

    You won't be putting your email data in anyone's hands with Hermes. Hermes is just a rebuilt version of Eudora, which will hopefully work with modern protocols and display messages correctly. It's now been renamed Aurora, and it's only at alpha stage
    at the moment, but it's looking promising.
    It is from the same people who were behind the original Hermes project, which was (and is) simply an updated set of files to enable Eudora to communicate with servers using TLS 1.2, which is becoming mandatory for most email providers. It's been
    discussed here many times.
    Hermes is not an ISP. So your statements are pointless about that.

    @Talland Keen
    Glad to hear it's all working again!
    @Rick C
    I know Hermes isn't an ISP.
    Sorry, I probably misunderstood what you were saying about it.
    When you said "Switching to Hermes would put all my email data in those hands" I thought you meant that you thought that Hermes would somehow have your data.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 16 13:49:17 2023
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 3:11:46 PM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 18:33:00 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 7:24:56 AM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 22:14:08 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 4:24:39 PM UTC-4, Talland Keen wrote:
    About a month after your post and I have having problems with Eudora 7 with my IP provider.
    I run both Thunderbird and Eudora and Thunderbird is still working. Eudora has SSL negotiation problems.

    So sad to loose Eudora since T-bird works but is so slow and awkward.

    dk
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:05:58 AM UTC-7, Frederick wrote:
    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All
    was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45.
    Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text
    and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there
    was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was
    blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was
    talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email
    servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if
    so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?
    There are solutions to the SSL issues. I don't know all the details, but others have described it here several times. I have used Eudora on my PCs since Windows 95, and continue to use it on each new machine simply by copying the Eudora folder
    over.

    I am a bit tired of the growing display problems, because of relying on Internet Explorer or some other very old software to format the emails in the Eudora window. I receive a number of important emails (banking for example) that simply don't
    display in Eudora, and have to be opened in a browser. Fortunately Eudora has a button for that.

    There's also Hermes, which I have not looked into personally. I tried using Thunderbird for a while (for usenet before email) only to have it crap out on me with no clear path to recovery. I switched to Seamonkey since it would accept the data
    files. But it crapped out a year later. I could test those with usenet without worrying about losing emails. Switching to Hermes would put all my email data in those hands. So, for now, I'm sticking with Eudora and its quirks.

    You won't be putting your email data in anyone's hands with Hermes. Hermes is just a rebuilt version of Eudora, which will hopefully work with modern protocols and display messages correctly. It's now been renamed Aurora, and it's only at alpha
    stage at the moment, but it's looking promising.
    It is from the same people who were behind the original Hermes project, which was (and is) simply an updated set of files to enable Eudora to communicate with servers using TLS 1.2, which is becoming mandatory for most email providers. It's been
    discussed here many times.
    Hermes is not an ISP. So your statements are pointless about that.

    @Talland Keen
    Glad to hear it's all working again!
    @Rick C
    I know Hermes isn't an ISP.
    Sorry, I probably misunderstood what you were saying about it.
    When you said "Switching to Hermes would put all my email data in those hands" I thought you meant that you thought that Hermes would somehow have your data.

    By that, I meant I would be vulnerable to a crash losing my email. In all the years I've used Eudora the number of emails I've lost, I can count on one hand.

    But then I had Hermes mixed up with the other email tool, Aurora, which is new code. Your post seems to be saying Hermes is just Eudora with updated TLS code, which I have added. It was pretty easy to add to Eudora, but I've seen some posts here where
    people have failed.

    I only have another year or so of professional work, where I would care a great deal about preserving my emails. Then I won't care so much. After all, most people don't even know what email is anymore. I'll get a new phone number to help with the spam
    calls... maybe, not sure that they don't call made up numbers. They definitely send spam to made up email addresses. Years ago, I received all email sent to the domain, regardless of the address. It reached a point where I would get maybe five emails
    a day, 20 or 30 spam emails to those addresses and 100+ emails to made up email addresses. I had to cut off the catch all, and now I create a unique email address for every vendor I exchange email with. That's over

    That shows the spammers were not only being spammers, they were ripping off their clients, saying they had sent 100,000 emails, when the vast majority would never been received, much less seen by a human.

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  • From DaveH2@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu May 18 16:13:08 2023
    On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 21:49:18 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    By that, I meant I would be vulnerable to a crash losing my email. In all the years I've used Eudora the number of emails I've lost, I can count on one hand.
    But then I had Hermes mixed up with the other email tool, Aurora, which is new code. Your post seems to be saying Hermes is just Eudora with updated TLS code, which I have added. It was pretty easy to add to Eudora, but I've seen some posts here where
    people have failed.

    Aurora isn't completely new code. The source code of Eudora was put into the public domain by Qualcomm, and it has now (after a lot of issues which caused a big delay) finally been decompiled and recompiled, with changes made to improve its compatibility
    with modern messages, especially with regards to UTF-8 support, which was never in Eudora.
    Aurora looks and feels exactly like Eudora, because it fundamentally IS Eudora, just updated, as presumably Qualcomm would have done had they not decided to abandon it. It's on Alpha 20 now, and it really is looking very promising as a modern version of
    Eudora, which will be a boon to many of us I'm sure!

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  • From geo@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 19 05:25:12 2023
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 7:13:09 PM UTC-4, DaveH2 wrote:
    On Tuesday, 16 May 2023 at 21:49:18 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
    But then I had Hermes mixed up with the other email tool, Aurora, which is new code. Your post seems to be saying Hermes is just Eudora with updated TLS code, which I have added. It was pretty easy to add to Eudora, but I've seen some posts here
    where people have failed.

    Aurora isn't completely new code. The source code of Eudora was put into the public domain by Qualcomm, and it has now (after a lot of issues which caused a big delay) finally been decompiled and recompiled, with changes made to improve its
    compatibility with modern messages, especially with regards to UTF-8 support, which was never in Eudora.
    Aurora looks and feels exactly like Eudora, because it fundamentally IS Eudora, just updated, as presumably Qualcomm would have done had they not decided to abandon it. It's on Alpha 20 now, and it really is looking very promising as a modern version
    of Eudora, which will be a boon to many of us I'm sure!
    _________

    I agree with David - Hermes Aurora [that's the full name] is getting close to being a release-quality bug-fix and UTF-8 update to the 2006 Eudora code. It *is* Eudora, not a look-alike clone. Alpha 20 fixed UTF-8 junk characters in replies, a major
    issue. There's more to do, but Pete Maclean, the only guy doing the code-pounding, is making terrific progress. While there are some modest cosmetic issues to be resolved, I'd expect a beta release to be out soon -- in a few months at most - just a
    guess, based on how well Alpha release 20 runs. Quality-wise, I'd call it a beta-release now.

    The one remaining huge issue is OAuth2 support for email providers like Microsoft and GMail that require it for incoming mail. There's no timeline for that yet, but it is on the Aurora list. There are a couple of proxy programs out there that are work-
    arounds for this -- O2popper and simonrob's email-oauth2-proxy. O2popper is simpler to set up.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Frederick on Tue May 23 02:00:37 2023
    On Mon, 15 May 2023 14:03:10 +0100, Frederick <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All
    was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45.
    Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text
    and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there
    was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was
    blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was
    talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email
    servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if
    so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?


    Yes, I downloaded the file posted by one of the users and made the following chan ges:

    I used Pete's patch and it did not work immediately. Then messed around with settings because elsewhere someone said, "Do remember to put it on
    "Required, alternate port", because "Required startTLS" will not work !!!!!
    "

    And sure enuf, now it works! My Eudora is ALIVE AGAIN!

    Yeap, my Eudora Pro works a treat.

    Thanks to the user who gave the URL to the qcssl_update.zip file.

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  • From Pamela@21:1/5 to geo on Tue May 23 21:12:55 2023
    On 12:54 16 May 2023, geo said:

    Comcast started to require TLS v 1.2 on April 18, the same date Cox
    started too. https://www.xfinity.com/support/articles/tls

    The fix is here:
    https://www.maclean.com/downloads/QCSSL_Update.zip
    which is Pete Maclean's Hermes SSL fix, updated with instructions.
    Pete is the Hermes coder, the only one, which is why it is slow
    going.

    Can logging be disabled? The release note says one log entry is written
    for each communication attempt which must create a very large log file.

    I haven't needed QCSSL yet but want to be prepared.

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  • From geo@21:1/5 to Pamela on Tue May 23 13:59:00 2023
    On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 4:13:22 PM UTC-4, Pamela wrote:
    Can logging be disabled? The release note says one log entry is written
    for each communication attempt which must create a very large log file.

    I haven't needed QCSSL yet but want to be prepared.

    Logs are small - 10 kb. They only have recent connections - a day or 2.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Frederick on Mon May 29 11:30:41 2023
    On Monday, 15 May 2023 at 18:35:58 UTC+5:30, Frederick wrote:
    On 02:26 18 Apr 2023, said:

    Last week I checked my email on Cox.net using Eudora Pro v. 7x. All
    was good with the world,

    Then, before retiring for the evening I checked again circa 22:45.
    Eudora gave me error messages about checking email using plain text
    and not using SSL.

    When I went to the certificate manager in Eudora Pro I noticed there
    was no last SSL info available. The certificate manager SSL info was
    blank and contained no information.

    I'm wondering, could this be the end of my Eudora Pro?

    I called tech support and they acted like I didn't know WTF I was
    talking about. They also said Cox had made no changes to their email servers.

    Yeah Right!

    Has anyone else using Cox and Eudora Pro had this problem? And if
    so, did you solve it and how?

    TIA.


    Did you find out what was causing this?
    no I just installed Eudora on Windows 11

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