• Edit sent message for printing? (Eudora 7.1)

    From Pamela@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 4 19:25:40 2023
    I can edit received messages by using the pencil icon above the message
    text.

    How do I edit messages I have sent, which I want to print? The pencil icon
    is missing.

    The workaround I am using is to select "Send Again". Then I can edit the
    new message but I lose my changes when I close it.

    Is there a better way?

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Pamela on Sat Mar 4 13:55:54 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 2:25:54 PM UTC-5, Pamela wrote:
    I can edit received messages by using the pencil icon above the message text.

    How do I edit messages I have sent, which I want to print? The pencil icon is missing.

    The workaround I am using is to select "Send Again". Then I can edit the
    new message but I lose my changes when I close it.

    Is there a better way?

    Using Send Again opens a NEW message with the contents of the old message. It is not editing the old message. So if you close it, you will lose it. What's wrong with saving it as a new message after editing?

    If you really want to edit the old message, you can close Eudora, then open the OUT mailbox in a text editor (after saving a version under a different name or location). Make your changes there. Then when you save it, and open Eudora again, the changes
    should be in the old message.

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    Rick C.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Mar 5 09:35:15 2023
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 1:55:55 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    ...
    If you really want to edit the old message, you can close Eudora, then open the OUT mailbox in a text editor (after saving a version under a different name or location). Make your changes there. Then when you save it, and open Eudora again, the changes
    should be in the old message.

    Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Mar 5 23:12:31 2023
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:35:17 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 1:55:55 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    ...
    If you really want to edit the old message, you can close Eudora, then open the OUT mailbox in a text editor (after saving a version under a different name or location). Make your changes there. Then when you save it, and open Eudora again, the
    changes should be in the old message.
    Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.

    My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No?

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    Rick C.

    + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 6 08:06:38 2023
    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 10:18:35 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:12:33 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:35:17 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.
    My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No?
    Yes, but then you lose the saved information about all messages in the mailbox: their status (whether they have been read, forwarded, replied to, sent, or queued), the labels that were applied to them, etc. If you don't care about that, then having
    Eudora regenerate the .toc file works ok.

    I don't believe that is true. I've done this many times and not lost such information. In fact, deleting the .toc file is a recommended way to recover a munged mailbox. I've done this a number of times in the 20+ years I've been using Eudora. I think
    I would have noticed the loss of such information.

    --

    Rick C.

    -- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    -- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 6 07:18:33 2023
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:12:33 PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:35:17 PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.
    My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No?

    Yes, but then you lose the saved information about all messages in the mailbox: their status (whether they have been read, forwarded, replied to, sent, or queued), the labels that were applied to them, etc. If you don't care about that, then having
    Eudora regenerate the .toc file works ok.

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  • From Jim H@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Mar 6 17:58:00 2023
    On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 08:06:38 -0800 (PST), in <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 10:18:35?AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:12:33?PM UTC-8, [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:35:17?PM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote: >> > > Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea. If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the mailbox.
    My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by Eudora. No? >> Yes, but then you lose the saved information about all messages in the mailbox: their status (whether they have been read, forwarded, replied to, sent, or queued), the labels that were applied to them, etc. If you don't care about that, then having
    Eudora regenerate the .toc file works ok.

    I don't believe that is true. I've done this many times and not lost such information. In fact, deleting the .toc file is a recommended way to recover a munged mailbox. I've done this a number of times in the 20+ years I've been using Eudora. I
    think I would have noticed the loss of such information.


    If you never noticed the loss of any information, then you never had
    the sort of information that will be lost. If you have nothing but
    received messages, all read, none forwarded, none replied to, no
    embedded images, no labels, maybe more, then and only then can you
    delete the toc and regenerate it without losing anything.

    It's simply not a good idea to delete the toc for a mailbox containing
    many messages just because you need to edit one of them. If you must
    edit a message outside Eudora, minimize potential loss by moving it to
    an empty mailbox, edit it there, then move it back where you want it.
    Always close Eudora whole editing. Yes, you can probably get away with
    not closing Eudora to edit one message in an otherwise empty mailbox,
    but it's a bad habit to get into.
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    Jim H

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  • From Pamela@21:1/5 to Jim H on Sat Mar 18 20:07:36 2023
    On 17:58 6 Mar 2023, Jim H said:

    On Mon, 6 Mar 2023 08:06:38 -0800 (PST), in <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 10:18:35?AM UTC-5, [email protected]
    wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 11:12:33?PM UTC-8,
    [email protected] wrote:
    On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 12:35:17?PM UTC-5, [email protected]
    wrote:
    Editing a mailbox outside of Eudora generally not a good idea.
    If the size changes at all, it will make the corresponding
    table-of-contents (.toc) file invalid. That's where Eudora
    stores all sorts of status flags about the messages in the
    mailbox.
    My understanding is that the .toc file can be regenerated by
    Eudora. No?
    Yes, but then you lose the saved information about all messages in
    the mailbox: their status (whether they have been read, forwarded,
    replied to, sent, or queued), the labels that were applied to them,
    etc. If you don't care about that, then having Eudora regenerate
    the .toc file works ok.

    I don't believe that is true. I've done this many times and not lost
    such information. In fact, deleting the .toc file is a recommended
    way to recover a munged mailbox. I've done this a number of times in
    the 20+ years I've been using Eudora. I think I would have noticed
    the loss of such information.


    If you never noticed the loss of any information, then you never had
    the sort of information that will be lost. If you have nothing but
    received messages, all read, none forwarded, none replied to, no
    embedded images, no labels, maybe more, then and only then can you
    delete the toc and regenerate it without losing anything.

    It's simply not a good idea to delete the toc for a mailbox
    containing many messages just because you need to edit one of them.
    If you must edit a message outside Eudora, minimize potential loss by
    moving it to an empty mailbox, edit it there, then move it back where
    you want it. Always close Eudora whole editing. Yes, you can probably
    get away with not closing Eudora to edit one message in an otherwise
    empty mailbox, but it's a bad habit to get into.

    I think I'll play it safe and not edit the message with Eudora closed,
    although it's useful to know from "Gnuarm" that it's possible.

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