• [META] Is this ng only for the original Pine from University of Washing

    From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 12 13:16:44 2023
    ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
    called today (it's a moving target)?

    Thanks.


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  • From Allodoxaphobia@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Thu Oct 12 13:33:10 2023
    On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 13:16:44 +0000, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
    called today (it's a moving target)?

    It's for all things *pine.

    Jonesy
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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Thu Oct 12 16:30:14 2023
    Ottavio Caruso <[email protected]> wrote:

    ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
    called today (it's a moving target)?

    It's not a moving target. It's been "alpine" since 2007, when UWash
    rewrote it to eliminate use of portions of the code that were
    copyrighted so that it could be released under a public license. Eduardo
    had been part of that team. UWash stopped maintaining alpine a few
    months after releasing the rewrite.

    Most of us are on Eduardo's fork of alpine; the two earlier forks are
    abandoned projects. His version numbering doesn't overlap version
    numbering used with the two earlier forks.

    Eduardo generously gives his time maintaining alpine. We all thank him
    for it.

    If you had a specific question to ask, you'd receive an answer.

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 13 08:31:40 2023
    Am 12/10/2023 um 16:30 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <[email protected]> wrote:

    ... or for all its derivatives, including Alpine or whatever it is
    called today (it's a moving target)?

    It's not a moving target. It's been "alpine" since 2007, when UWash
    rewrote it to eliminate use of portions of the code that were
    copyrighted so that it could be released under a public license. Eduardo
    had been part of that team. UWash stopped maintaining alpine a few
    months after releasing the rewrite.

    Most of us are on Eduardo's fork of alpine; the two earlier forks are abandoned projects. His version numbering doesn't overlap version
    numbering used with the two earlier forks.

    Eduardo generously gives his time maintaining alpine. We all thank him
    for it.

    If you had a specific question to ask, you'd receive an answer.

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

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  • From Holger Schieferdecker@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 13 13:02:56 2023
    Am 13.10.2023 um 10:31 schrieb Ottavio Caruso:
    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The Homepage has a new address (I don't know when this was changed):

    https://alpineapp.email/alpine/

    Holger

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Fri Oct 13 16:03:51 2023
    Ottavio Caruso <[email protected]> wrote:

    . . .

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
    repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
    correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

    Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

    https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 14 08:37:56 2023
    Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <[email protected]> wrote:

    . . .

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
    repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
    correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

    Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

    https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

    I've reported it. Thanks.

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    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Adam H. Kerman@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Sat Oct 14 15:54:58 2023
    Ottavio Caruso <[email protected]> wrote:
    Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <[email protected]> wrote:

    . . .

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
    repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
    correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

    Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

    https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

    I've reported it. Thanks.

    As others pointed out, Eduardo's Patches for Alpine site should also be referenced. https://alpineapp.email/alpine/

    Eduardo had also changed the location of this site.

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  • From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 16 13:58:40 2023
    Am 14/10/2023 um 15:54 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <[email protected]> wrote:
    Am 13/10/2023 um 16:03 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
    Ottavio Caruso <[email protected]> wrote:

    . . .

    I am planning to ask a few questions. But in the meantime:

    $ apt-cache show alpine|grep Homepage
    Homepage: http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/

    < Site not found >

    Is this a Debian problem?

    The package maintainer isn't using the current location of the
    repository. Please let the package maintainer know that he needs to
    correct this. Eduardo does not create the packages.

    Eduardo changed the location of the repository several years ago.

    https://repo.or.cz/alpine.git

    I've reported it. Thanks.

    As others pointed out, Eduardo's Patches for Alpine site should also be referenced. https://alpineapp.email/alpine/

    Eduardo had also changed the location of this site.


    Please anybody feel free to add to this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1053915


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    Ottavio Caruso

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