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    From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 11:34:18 2023
    Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write
    here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for
    xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Ron Pinkas@21:1/5 to Enrico Maria Giordano on Thu Oct 19 13:46:33 2023
    On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 4:35:00 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
    Probably good idea,

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  • From Ron Pinkas@21:1/5 to Enrico Maria Giordano on Thu Oct 19 13:44:00 2023
    On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 4:35:00 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
    Something happened SPAM wise since few days ago - I wonder if there is something we can do.

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 23:24:31 2023
    Il 19/10/2023 22:46, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

    Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write
    here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for
    xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?

    Probably good idea,

    Ok, Any other opinions?

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 23:40:35 2023
    Il 19/10/2023 11:34, Enrico Maria Giordano ha scritto:

    Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write
    here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?

    I withdraw my proposal. We already have a Google Group:

    https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.xharbour

    Sorry for the confusion I created.

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 23:22:43 2023
    Il 19/10/2023 22:44, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

    Something happened SPAM wise since few days ago - I wonder if there is something we can do.

    I don't see any spam here. I'm using news.eternal-september.org.

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 21 09:15:03 2023
    I'm trying to delete the spam messages from our Google Group but it does
    not allow me to do it. Who is the owner of that group?

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to Ron Pinkas on Sat Oct 21 05:49:12 2023
    On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:44:02 PM UTC-3, Ron Pinkas wrote:
    On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 4:35:00 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    Dear friends, this newsgroup is getting older and very few people write here, nowadays. What is your opinion about creating a Google Group for xHarbour and dismiss this newsgroup?

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
    Something happened SPAM wise since few days ago - I wonder if there is something we can do.
    Maybe https://support.google.com/groups/answer/9792693?hl=en

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 21 21:08:46 2023
    Il 21/10/2023 21:05, Enrico Maria Giordano ha scritto:

    This is a reflection of the news://comp.lang.xharbour. We created it
    but I don't believe there is an "ownership'. We should find out how to
    report it. Maybe if we each MARK it as SPAM then Google AI will learn
    and block it.

    Ok, I will do it, thank you.

    Done, only few spam messages remained. The other are vanished. Somebody
    has deleted them?

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Ron Pinkas@21:1/5 to Enrico Maria Giordano on Sat Oct 21 11:22:02 2023
    On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:15:18 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    I'm trying to delete the spam messages from our Google Group but it does
    not allow me to do it. Who is the owner of that group?
    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
    This is a reflection of the news://comp.lang.xharbour. We created it but I don't believe there is an "ownership'. We should find out how to report it. Maybe if we each MARK it as SPAM then Google AI will learn and block it.
    /

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 21 21:05:09 2023
    Il 21/10/2023 20:22, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

    I'm trying to delete the spam messages from our Google Group but it does
    not allow me to do it. Who is the owner of that group?

    This is a reflection of the news://comp.lang.xharbour. We created it but I don't believe there is an "ownership'. We should find out how to report it. Maybe if we each MARK it as SPAM then Google AI will learn and block it.

    Ok, I will do it, thank you.

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 23 21:11:44 2023
    Il 23/10/2023 20:38, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

    Done, only few spam messages remained. The other are vanished. Somebody
    has deleted them?

    I keep reporting all SPAM I encounter - so it might take effect for others too.

    Me too.

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Ron Pinkas@21:1/5 to Enrico Maria Giordano on Mon Oct 23 11:38:03 2023
    On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:08:50 PM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    Il 21/10/2023 21:05, Enrico Maria Giordano ha scritto:

    This is a reflection of the news://comp.lang.xharbour. We created it
    but I don't believe there is an "ownership'. We should find out how to
    report it. Maybe if we each MARK it as SPAM then Google AI will learn
    and block it.

    Ok, I will do it, thank you.
    Done, only few spam messages remained. The other are vanished. Somebody
    has deleted them?
    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
    I keep reporting all SPAM I encounter - so it might take effect for others too.

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  • From dlzc@21:1/5 to Enrico Maria Giordano on Tue Oct 24 06:27:16 2023
    On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 2:15:18 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    I'm trying to delete the spam messages from our Google Group but it does
    not allow me to do it. Who is the owner of that group?
    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

    You cannot delete it. This is a USENET newsgroup, hosted by Google Groups but also other news servers. The SPAM is also flooding our sister VO newsgroup.

    I am busy reporting it. When reported, it stops being returned on internet searches, and the piles of sh!t that dump their refuse like this fail to thrive. Anyone can help.

    David A. Smith

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 24 18:10:03 2023
    Il 24/10/2023 17:40, Ingo Steinbuechel ha scritto:

    Yes, don't use G00glegroups. That's just a crutch. Any decent newsreader
    has filters. I have no problem here.

    Me neither. I don't see the spam on eternal-september.org news server.
    I'm using Thunderbird without filters.

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Ingo Steinbuechel@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 24 17:40:11 2023
    [Spam in newsgroups]
    You cannot delete it. This is a USENET newsgroup, hosted by Google
    Groups but also other news servers.

    correct. The group is not owned by G00gle.

    I am busy reporting it. When reported, it stops being returned on
    internet searches, and the piles of sh!t that dump their refuse like
    this fail to thrive. Anyone can help.

    Yes, don't use G00glegroups. That's just a crutch. Any decent newsreader
    has filters. I have no problem here.

    Regards Ingo

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  • From CV@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 25 09:17:56 2023
    El martes, 24 de octubre de 2023 a la(s) 13:10:09 UTC-3, Enrico Maria Giordano escribió:
    Il 24/10/2023 17:40, Ingo Steinbuechel ha scritto:

    Yes, don't use G00glegroups. That's just a crutch. Any decent newsreader has filters. I have no problem here.
    Me neither. I don't see the spam on eternal-september.org news server.
    I'm using Thunderbird without filters.
    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

    Hi all

    It is getting worst day after day!
    I marked as SPAM 5 full pages of messages while using MS edge as browser for this newsgroup.

    Don't know what else we can do.

    Regards
    Claudio Voskian

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 26 14:14:12 2023
    Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From dlzc@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 26 04:34:42 2023
    On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 11:17:58 AM UTC-5, CV wrote:

    It is getting worst day after day!
    I marked as SPAM 5 full pages of messages while using MS edge
    as browser for this newsgroup.

    Don't know what else we can do.

    You are accessing via Google Groups. Very likely the tool (or interface) that is being used by the spammers to flood the newsgroups.

    The spam started out elsewhere, the same crap was on sci.physics.relativity at the end of September.

    What they (Enrico / Ingo) are telling you, is if you get an email client or dedicated newsreader, it gets its content via a usenet service that filters out this drivel.

    I like you use Google Groups, and I report this stuff, so that they do not profit. No search engine hits are returned on it, if it has been reported. I don't mind the noise, I enjoy punishing rapists.

    David A. Smith

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  • From Ron Pinkas@21:1/5 to Enrico Maria Giordano on Thu Oct 26 08:31:44 2023
    On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 5:14:17 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?
    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
    I believe it kind of automatically does. - but not completely.

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 26 17:39:33 2023
    Il 26/10/2023 17:31, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

    Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?

    I believe it kind of automatically does. - but not completely.

    I still see all of them. Ok, not the real header but a note says
    something like "The conversation has been hidden...". Pages and pages of
    that rubbish... :-(

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From Ron Pinkas@21:1/5 to Enrico Maria Giordano on Thu Oct 26 09:17:21 2023
    On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 8:39:35 AM UTC-7, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    Il 26/10/2023 17:31, Ron Pinkas ha scritto:

    Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?

    I believe it kind of automatically does. - but not completely.
    I still see all of them. Ok, not the real header but a note says
    something like "The conversation has been hidden...". Pages and pages of that rubbish... :-(
    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg
    Yes, same here.

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  • From dlzc@21:1/5 to Enrico Maria Giordano on Mon Oct 30 06:59:06 2023
    On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 7:14:17 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?

    Not reliably. Google Groups seems to keep a list of "1000" or so most recent reports you have made, and automagically suppresses those with the hidden-due-to-reported banner. But with the recent floods in three newsgroups I monitor, reported threads in
    a couple of others have suddenly been revealed. As if they had never been reported.

    I dislike installing dedicated email clients or newsreaders, but that is the only way to make sure such dross stays gone. USENET retains such sh!t forever. Paid for by tax dollars, ultimately.

    David A. Smith

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  • From [email protected]@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 08:56:24 2023
    El Monday, October 30, 2023 a la(s) 10:59:08 AM UTC-3, dlzc escribió:
    On Thursday, October 26, 2023 at 7:14:17 AM UTC-5, Enrico Maria Giordano wrote:
    Is there a way to hide the reported posts from Google Groups?
    Not reliably. Google Groups seems to keep a list of "1000" or so most recent reports you have made, and automagically suppresses those with the hidden-due-to-reported banner. But with the recent floods in three newsgroups I monitor, reported threads in
    a couple of others have suddenly been revealed. As if they had never been reported.

    I dislike installing dedicated email clients or newsreaders, but that is the only way to make sure such dross stays gone. USENET retains such sh!t forever. Paid for by tax dollars, ultimately.

    David A. Smith

    ***************************************
    Group Information:
    PRIVACY
    Any web user: permission to view the group
    Group owners: you can see their members
    Any web user: permission to view conversations
    Any web user: permission to publish content <------- No filter
    Any web user: you can join the group <------- No filter **********************************************************
    Informacion del Grupo:
    PRIVACIDAD
    Cualquier usuario de la Web: permiso para ver el grupo
    Propietarios del grupo: pueden ver los miembros
    Cualquier usuario de la Web: permiso para ver las conversaciones
    Cualquier usuario de la Web: permiso para publicar contenido <------- Falta filtro
    Cualquier usuario de la Web: puede unirse al grupo <------- Falta filtro

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  • From Claudio H@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 08:15:11 2023
    Has anyone found a solution to hide this spam?
    Regards
    Claudio H

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  • From Enrico Maria Giordano@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 6 18:56:32 2023
    Il 06/11/2023 17:15, Claudio H ha scritto:

    Has anyone found a solution to hide this spam?

    No, sorry. The only solution is to use a real news server like eternal-september.org.

    --
    Enrico Maria Giordano

    http://www.emagsoftware.it
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/emgmusic
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/spectrum
    http://www.emagsoftware.it/tbosg

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  • From dlzc@21:1/5 to Claudio H on Mon Nov 6 10:09:20 2023
    On Monday, November 6, 2023 at 10:15:13 AM UTC-6, Claudio H wrote:
    Has anyone found a solution to hide this spam?
    Regards
    Claudio H
    Get a formal newsreader or email client (eg. Thunderbird). They will get USENET feeds from dedicated servers, and the spam will not be visible. Google Groups are the bastards that let this spam be added, and consequently, they do not auto-hide even
    reported crap, and only do so for a limited number of items you have reported yourself.

    David A. Smith

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