I'm in the phase of optimization of the new ATL tcl dialect using "myoo" OO extension and right now I'm fight to get
PYTHON speed for an EMPTY callback.

→ The CORE problem is the "Tcl_EvalObjv" which is TO SLOW to beat python.


exec[#7] -> '.../release/example/c/perfclient' '--send-nothing' '--sec' '10' '@' 'python3' '.../example/py/perfserver.py'
...:PerfClientExec }: start ------------------------ : result [ count / sec ]
...:statistics }: --send-nothing : 504821.1 [ 5048489 / 10.000551 ]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...:PerfClientExec }: end: ----------------------------------------
exec[#7] -> '.../release/example/c/perfclient' '--send-nothing' '--sec' '10' '@' 'tclsh8.6' '.../example/atl/perfserver.atl'
...:PerfClientExec }: start ------------------------ : result [ count / sec ]
...:statistics }: --send-nothing : 453027.1 [ 4530432 / 10.000355 ]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...:PerfClientExec }: end: ----------------------------------------


→ The CORE problem is the "NRE" which eats the performance

*----------------------------------------------------------------------
*
* Tcl_EvalObjv --
*
* This function evaluates a Tcl command that has already been parsed
* into words, with one Tcl_Obj holding each word.
*
* Results:
* The return value is a standard Tcl completion code such as TCL_OK or
* TCL_ERROR. A result or error message is left in interp's result.
*
* Side effects:
* Always pushes a callback. Other side effects depend on the command.
*
*----------------------------------------------------------------------
*/

int
Tcl_EvalObjv(
Tcl_Interp *interp, /* Interpreter in which to evaluate the
* command. Also used for error reporting. */
int objc, /* Number of words in command. */
Tcl_Obj *const objv[], /* An array of pointers to objects that are
* the words that make up the command. */
int flags) /* Collection of OR-ed bits that control the
* evaluation of the script. Only
* TCL_EVAL_GLOBAL, TCL_EVAL_INVOKE and
* TCL_EVAL_NOERR are currently supported. */
{
int result;
NRE_callback *rootPtr = TOP_CB(interp);

result = TclNREvalObjv(interp, objc, objv, flags, NULL);
return TclNRRunCallbacks(interp, result, rootPtr);
}

→ Is there a possible to get an "Tcl_EvalObjvEx" as striped version of all the NRE stuff?


mfg.

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On 04.04.25 15:55, aotto1968 wrote:

I'm in the phase of optimization of the new ATL tcl dialect using "myoo" OO extension and right now I'm fight to get
PYTHON speed for an EMPTY callback.

→ The CORE problem is the "Tcl_EvalObjv" which is TO SLOW to beat python.

exec[#7] -> '.../release/example/c/perfclient' '--send-nothing' '--sec' '10' '@' 'python3' '.../example/py/perfserver.py'
...:PerfClientExec                }: start ------------------------ :     result [    count / sec        ]
...:statistics                    }:                 --send-nothing :   504821.1 [  5048489 / 10.000551  ]
                                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...:PerfClientExec                }: end: ----------------------------------------
exec[#7] -> '.../release/example/c/perfclient' '--send-nothing' '--sec' '10' '@' 'tclsh8.6' '.../example/atl/perfserver.atl'
...:PerfClientExec                }: start ------------------------ :     result [    count / sec        ]
...:statistics                    }:                 --send-nothing :   453027.1 [  4530432 / 10.000355  ]
                                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
...:PerfClientExec                }: end: ----------------------------------------

...

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As I fought - the CORE problem was TCL8.6 which lost ~10%-20% of performance against PYTHON.

I use for ATL and myoo now a slightly modified 8.5.19 which has almost PYTHON speed make myoo to one of fastest OO in the
scripting sky
With 8.5.19 I get rid of tcloo and NRE
ATL and myoo works for version tcl8.6 also

→ results: https://wiki.tcl-lang.org/page/How+can+I+get+rid+of+the+NRE

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