Hello,
I came across the license_fsul.terms file in the Tcllib repository. The
license conditions seem interesting and unconventional, as they require
payment for productive use. To me, this is rather unusual for an
open-source library, so I wonder if this was indeed intended or if the
file was perhaps added by mistake.

https://core.tcl-lang.org/tcllib/file?name=license_fsul.terms

best regards
Gregor

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Gerald Lester <[email protected]> wrote:

On 11/9/24 05:12, greg wrote:

Hello,
I came across the license_fsul.terms file in the Tcllib repository. The
license conditions seem interesting and unconventional, as they require
payment for productive use. To me, this is rather unusual for an
open-source library, so I wonder if this was indeed intended or if the
file was perhaps added by mistake.

https://core.tcl-lang.org/tcllib/file?name=license_fsul.terms

WTF, the proper license is https://core.tcl-lang.org/tcllib/file?name=license.terms.

This was added in https://core.tcl-lang.org/tcllib/info/0b0d3c2be7e04e75
and seems to apply to the AES upgrade, in particular to the use of the accelerator and the test suite.

I hold copyright to several of the packages in TclLib and do not agree
to the change to the general TclLib licensing. We can't pollute TclLib
with GPL licnses!

I'm wondering if Thorsten Schloermann, Pat Thoyts, Andreas Kupries and
agreed to Nathan Coulter change of the license terms since they are the origingal copyright holders.

So, once again, pooryorick (aka Nathan Coulter) up to no good.

First the wiki, now Tcllib.

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Am 09.11.24 um 12:12 schrieb greg:

Hello,
I came across the license_fsul.terms file in the Tcllib repository. The license conditions seem interesting and unconventional, as they require payment for productive use. To me, this is rather unusual for an open-
source library, so I wonder if this was indeed intended or if the file
was perhaps added by mistake.

https://core.tcl-lang.org/tcllib/file?name=license_fsul.terms

best regards
Gregor

Hello,

I recently posted about the license_fsul.terms file in the Tcllib
repository. I have since realized that the file is actually part of a
branch that is not the official branch (trunk). I apologize for any
confusion this may have caused.

It seems the license in question might only apply to certain features or specific branches and is not part of the official Tcllib version.

best regards
Gregor

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Am 11.11.24 um 03:48 schrieb greg:

Am 09.11.24 um 12:12 schrieb greg:

Hello,
I came across the license_fsul.terms file in the Tcllib repository.
The license conditions seem interesting and unconventional, as they
require payment for productive use. To me, this is rather unusual for
an open- source library, so I wonder if this was indeed intended or if
the file was perhaps added by mistake.

https://core.tcl-lang.org/tcllib/file?name=license_fsul.terms

best regards
Gregor

Hello,

I recently posted about the license_fsul.terms file in the Tcllib
repository. I have since realized that the file is actually part of a
branch that is not the official branch (trunk). I apologize for any
confusion this may have caused.

It seems the license in question might only apply to certain features or specific branches and is not part of the official Tcllib version.

best regards
Gregor

Hello,

first of all, I want to thank Gerald Lester and Rich for their responses
and insights. I really appreciate the clarification regarding the
license situation in Tcllib.

I understand now that Tcllib is not officially part of the Tcl/Tk core,
but for me, it feels like an essential part of the Tcl/Tk ecosystem.
Therefore, I find the introduction of a license requiring payment for productive use quite problematic and not in line with the spirit of
open-source software, which Tcl/Tk has always represented for me.

Of course, the decision regarding the license is ultimately up to the developer. However, in my opinion, such licenses are better suited for
the developer's own separate libraries rather than being included in
Tcl/Tk, Tcllib, or Tklib.

I am "only" an enthusiastic user of this outstanding system Tcl/Tk, its developers, and the community, and I am truly grateful for all the work
that has been done.

Best regards,
Gregor

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