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    From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Kaz Kylheku on Mon Mar 24 18:44:28 2025
    On 24.03.2025 18:15, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, bart <[email protected]> wrote:

    When you have near-instant build times then it's completely different
    way of working.

    Obviously.

    [...]

    [ Dart / Flutter ]
    Turns out what that refers to is that they want update times measured in **milliseconds*; that is, from the time a developer makes a change, to
    that change being compiled, loaded in the live application and running.

    If that "subcultures in contemporary development" is (or becomes)
    wide-spread or even standard... <shudder> - Software quality is
    often already bad enough, no reason to foster that evolution.

    Janis

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  • From Michael S@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Mon Mar 24 23:06:28 2025
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 18:44:28 +0100
    Janis Papanagnou <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 24.03.2025 18:15, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
    On 2025-03-24, bart <[email protected]> wrote:

    When you have near-instant build times then it's completely
    different way of working.

    Obviously.

    [...]

    [ Dart / Flutter ]
    Turns out what that refers to is that they want update times
    measured in **milliseconds*; that is, from the time a developer
    makes a change, to that change being compiled, loaded in the live application and running.

    If that "subcultures in contemporary development" is (or becomes)
    wide-spread or even standard... <shudder> - Software quality is
    often already bad enough, no reason to foster that evolution.

    Janis


    Normally, fast turnaround improves the quality of software.
    The worst case tends to be the one where devs stubbornly follow
    original plan.

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  • From Janis Papanagnou@21:1/5 to Michael S on Mon Mar 24 23:44:55 2025
    On 24.03.2025 22:06, Michael S wrote:
    [...]

    Normally, fast turnaround improves the quality of software.
    The worst case tends to be the one where devs stubbornly follow
    original plan.

    This sounds as if you've never programmed in professional contexts.

    Janis

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  • From Michael S@21:1/5 to Janis Papanagnou on Tue Mar 25 13:00:43 2025
    On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 23:44:55 +0100
    Janis Papanagnou <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 24.03.2025 22:06, Michael S wrote:
    [...]

    Normally, fast turnaround improves the quality of software.
    The worst case tends to be the one where devs stubbornly follow
    original plan.

    This sounds as if you've never programmed in professional contexts.

    Janis


    Yeah, right.
    I wonder, why they a paying me professional salary for last 33 years.
    Should be due to irresistible look of my mustache.

    BTW, when did you wrote last line of code that went into production?
    Somehow I have a doubt that it happened in this millennium.

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