The restart maybe explains why IntelliJ has a
Power Safe mode, but I am not 100% sure about
the details. But if the end-user behaviour is
not compatible with the chosen delays, he might

tear down the tasks again and again. This could
use compute power. Some incremental tasks or tasks
that block (i.e. the "lag") could be a solution.
Incremental tasks that do only small work and

not big work, are less perceived as blocking
(i.e. the lag). But a ghost text that maybe
involves calling an Artificial Intelligence API
is probably in nature not a small work task,

in the sense that it would occupy a short work
time, the Artificial Intelligence API server
might be busy and cause a task slow down.

Disclaimer: I am doing some brain writing here...

Mild Shock schrieb:

Somebody wrote:

noticeable lag waiting for completion candidates

A lag wouldn’t be a problem. I guess the problem
is that the GUI gets blocked, right? If your GUI
has tasks and timers, you could try the follow:

- Debouncing Timer: To start ghost after lets
  say 1000 ms, the debouncing is to assure that
  the ghost appears after the last edit and not
  after the first edit.

- Abortable Task: The ghost is then computed
  asynchronously via a task. But this task is
  again tied to the debouncing, means the task
  gets aborted if the end-user shows impatience.

I checked a couple of GUI tools to do that. Had
rather bad experience with Java and OpenJFX, so I
am returning back to the JavaScript and WHATWG
with my ongoing research.

SVG tags were not working out the box https://wiki.openjdk.org/display/OpenJFX/Main

No runLater(), any task can any time modify the DOM!
https://whatwg.org/

But maybe there are other GUI frameworks which
can do it. If tasks are also used for highlighting
I belive they can be also run asynchronously without
explicitly juggling with some queues,

just await the asynchrous routine that the task
would execute, in a instrumentation loop, and ignore
the aborts, since an abort is now good news and not
bad news, it only indicates that

the end user did an edit and that the task
will be restartet.

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Hi,

The fukkers stole my name:

Jan - Local AI Assistant
https://github.com/menloresearch/jan

Bye

P.S.: Meanwhile I am struggling with Quantum Paper
whille doing a dark/light CSS. Look my light olive turned dark
olive, that is somewhere near chocolate or is it dog shit?

P.P.S.: Just figured out yesterday that some browser defaults
are more Motif/OSF than Material/Google, aka Quantum Paper.

Mild Shock schrieb:

The restart maybe explains why IntelliJ has a
Power Safe mode, but I am not 100% sure about
the details. But if the end-user behaviour is
not compatible with the chosen delays, he might

tear down the tasks again and again. This could
use compute power. Some incremental tasks or tasks
that block (i.e. the "lag") could be a solution.
Incremental tasks that do only small work and

not big work, are less perceived as blocking
(i.e. the lag). But a ghost text that maybe
involves calling an Artificial Intelligence API
is probably in nature not a small work task,

in the sense that it would occupy a short work
time, the Artificial Intelligence API server
might be busy and cause a task slow down.

Disclaimer: I am doing some brain writing here...

Mild Shock schrieb:

Somebody wrote:

noticeable lag waiting for completion candidates

A lag wouldn’t be a problem. I guess the problem
is that the GUI gets blocked, right? If your GUI
has tasks and timers, you could try the follow:

- Debouncing Timer: To start ghost after lets
   say 1000 ms, the debouncing is to assure that
   the ghost appears after the last edit and not
   after the first edit.

- Abortable Task: The ghost is then computed
   asynchronously via a task. But this task is
   again tied to the debouncing, means the task
   gets aborted if the end-user shows impatience.

I checked a couple of GUI tools to do that. Had
rather bad experience with Java and OpenJFX, so I
am returning back to the JavaScript and WHATWG
with my ongoing research.

SVG tags were not working out the box
https://wiki.openjdk.org/display/OpenJFX/Main

No runLater(), any task can any time modify the DOM!
https://whatwg.org/

But maybe there are other GUI frameworks which
can do it. If tasks are also used for highlighting
I belive they can be also run asynchronously without
explicitly juggling with some queues,

just await the asynchrous routine that the task
would execute, in a instrumentation loop, and ignore
the aborts, since an abort is now good news and not
bad news, it only indicates that

the end user did an edit and that the task
will be restartet.

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Hi,

Somebody wrote:

Right, but what I’m saying is that with the
current implementation as a separate process,
running independently of the editor and only
communicating over the channel defined by the
protocol, the ability to have fine-grained
asynchronous communication is limited.

Not my problem not seeking the state of the art. You
need of course a Prolog system that is all flesh
and blood cooperative multitasking. If you want

to do a GUI in Prolog similar like JavaScript
does it now, or a native GUI adapter. And I don't
count Tau-Prolog, although they showed amazing

stuff. But not amazing enough, still based
on continuations, and not based on promises. Or then
async/await. I am not sure what SWI WASM now delivers?

SWI Tinker shows me errors talking about threads when
I use the query background execution feature and if I
abort. But people from cooperative multitasking tend

to not use the terminology "thread", they prefer to
talk about "tasks". Ciao Playground doesn't count either,
since their channels to a background worker can even

not process an interrupt correctly.

Bye

Mild Shock schrieb:

Hi,

The fukkers stole my name:

Jan - Local AI Assistant
https://github.com/menloresearch/jan

Bye

P.S.: Meanwhile I am struggling with Quantum Paper
whille doing a dark/light CSS. Look my light olive turned dark
olive, that is somewhere near chocolate or is it dog shit?

P.P.S.: Just figured out yesterday that some browser defaults
are more Motif/OSF than Material/Google, aka Quantum Paper.

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