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anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
is Sumatra PDF viewer like an Editor in some way?
Useful Keyboard Shortcuts ???
Control-N to start a (blank) new window.
Shift-Control-N to clone a window.
Follow-up to comp.editors. (The other groups are even less involved
with software.)
HenHanna <[email protected]> writes:
anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
I do. It's wonderful.
is Sumatra PDF viewer like an Editor in some way?
A viewer is typically not called an editor.
Useful Keyboard Shortcuts ???
[...]
Control-N to start a (blank) new window.
Shift-Control-N to clone a window.
Thanks for these ones! Very useful!
anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
Follow-up to comp.editors. (The other groups are even less involved
with software.)
HenHanna <[email protected]> writes:
anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
is Sumatra PDF viewer like an Editor in some way?
A viewer is typically not called an editor.
Useful Keyboard Shortcuts ???
[...]
Control-N to start a (blank) new window.
Shift-Control-N to clone a window.
Thanks for these ones! Very useful!
On Fri, 31 May 2024 14:26:07 -0700, HenHanna wrote:
anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
I prefer Okular. It’s a general-purpose document viewer, with a whole host of back-ends for formats like PDF, DJVU, EPUB, CBZ, PostScript ... even
CHM.
On 5/31/2024 4:47 PM, Julieta Shem wrote:
Follow-up to comp.editors. (The other groups are even less involved
with software.)
HenHanna <[email protected]> writes:
anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
> I do. It's wonderful.
is Sumatra PDF viewer like an Editor in some way?
A viewer is typically not called an editor.
Useful Keyboard Shortcuts ???
[...]
Control-N to start a (blank) new window.
Shift-Control-N to clone a window.
Thanks for these ones! Very useful!
i wish... There was a Keyboard pre-mapping to bring up the FAV pane.
Sometimes i hit Control-B
and add the current page to the list of Favorites
just to bring up the FAV pane.
On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 14:42:22 -0700, HenHanna wrote:
Is there a viewer for .doc files?
.doc is an extension often used for text files, e.g. ><https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/tree/master/src/3rdparty/adaptagrams/libavoid/doc?ref_type=heads>.
Is there a viewer for .doc files?
In article <v45aob$3rcpa$[email protected]>, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 14:42:22 -0700, HenHanna wrote:
Is there a viewer for .doc files?
.doc is an extension often used for text files, e.g.
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/tree/master/src/3rdparty/adaptagrams/libavoid/doc?ref_type=heads>.
No, sadly ".doc" files are in an older Word format, and people often
send them when they think they are sending text files... and they
wind up sending an awful lot of metadata that they might not want to
be sending (like the undo history). LibreOffice will read Word files
and let you export to text, pdf, or rtf formats which are safe to
share.
However, there is OpenOffice ...
On 6/9/2024 3:42 PM, HenHanna wrote:
Is there a viewer for .doc files?
Not exactly. However, there is OpenOffice and another (name escapes
me at the moment) that are 1) free and 2) provided for virtually all Microsoft formats plus open ones that subsume the M$ formats. You can
use these packages as viewers, composers, and editors. In fact, you
can edit and save old format documents in either old or new formats.
A small victory for the open software folks.
If I sound a little upset with M$ to you and off topic, your
hearings good. I remember a few decades ago that simultaneously: 1)
DARPA our declared all-advanced research funder in the USA required
that every proposals to them be prepared using, in part, M$ tools
while 2) at the same time the Justice Department was investigating
and suing M$ for being a monopoly!
On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 21:46:00 -0600, Jeff Barnett wrote:
However, there is OpenOffice ...
Nobody should be bothering with OpenOffice any more. Use LibreOffice
instead.
Years ago I submitted a research paper to a conference that had suddenly adopted a rule that all submissions must be in MS-Word format. What the conference organisers didn't realise was that the number of lines per
page depended on non-portable local conditions. (I think it depended on
which printer was installed.) Submissions were limited to 4 pages. When
the conference proceedings were published, about half the papers turned
out to have a length of 4 pages plus 2 lines.
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:36:42 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
Years ago I submitted a research paper to a conference that had
suddenly adopted a rule that all submissions must be in MS-Word format. What the conference organisers didn't realise was that the number of
lines per page depended on non-portable local conditions. (I think it depended on which printer was installed.) Submissions were limited to 4 pages. When the conference proceedings were published, about half the papers turned out to have a length of 4 pages plus 2 lines.
Long-standing problem with Microsoft Office. Office diehards often
complain that LibreOffice isn�t �100%-compatible� because when they try moving documents between the two, the layout changes in some unexpected
way. What they don�t realize is that the Microsoft product isn�t
consistent with itself, and is quite capable of screwing up layouts on
its own.
In article <v469c7$8j09$[email protected]>, Lawrence D'Oliveiro ><[email protected]d> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 15:36:42 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
Years ago I submitted a research paper to a conference that had
suddenly adopted a rule that all submissions must be in MS-Word format.
What the conference organisers didn't realise was that the number of
lines per page depended on non-portable local conditions. (I think it
depended on which printer was installed.) Submissions were limited to 4
pages. When the conference proceedings were published, about half the
papers turned out to have a length of 4 pages plus 2 lines.
Long-standing problem with Microsoft Office. Office diehards often
complain that LibreOffice isn�t �100%-compatible� because when they try
moving documents between the two, the layout changes in some unexpected
way. What they don�t realize is that the Microsoft product isn�t
consistent with itself, and is quite capable of screwing up layouts on
its own.
Indeed so, been there, bought the T-Shirt
Follow-up to comp.editors. (The other groups are even less involved
with software.)
HenHanna <[email protected]> writes:
anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
I do. It's wonderful.
is Sumatra PDF viewer like an Editor in some way?
A viewer is typically not called an editor.
Useful Keyboard Shortcuts ???
[...]
Control-N to start a (blank) new window.
Shift-Control-N to clone a window.
Thanks for these ones! Very useful!
On 10/06/24 09:09, Scott Dorsey wrote:
In article <v45aob$3rcpa$[email protected]>, Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<[email protected]d> wrote:
On Sun, 9 Jun 2024 14:42:22 -0700, HenHanna wrote:
Is there a viewer for .doc files?
.doc is an extension often used for text files, e.g.
<https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/-/tree/master/src/3rdparty/adaptagrams/libavoid/doc?ref_type=heads>.
Traditionally .doc was reserved for documentation files, and the format
was plain text. The meaning changed because of Microsoft's habitual
contempt for standards.
No, sadly ".doc" files are in an older Word format, and people often
send them when they think they are sending text files... and they
wind up sending an awful lot of metadata that they might not want to
be sending (like the undo history). LibreOffice will read Word files
and let you export to text, pdf, or rtf formats which are safe to
share.
At our university we once had a Vice-Chancellor who believed in sending
out "all staff" memos by e-mail in MS-Word format. I think he composed
them by taking an existing MS-Word file and altering the contents. He apparently didn't know about the "revision history" feature, so he ended
up leaking a lot of confidential documents.
At the time I didn't have a Windows computer, so all the metadata
appeared to me as plain text. I could have read the intended content
with OpenOffice, but one doesn't normally set up a mail program to
invoke a word processor.
And they made it even more confusing by introducing .docx too.
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 02:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
And they made it even more confusing by introducing .docx too.
That’s a whole new format, which Microsoft has tried to railroad through
as some kind of “international standard” (ISO 29500). Except the specification document is so opaque and incomprehensible, nobody can be
sure when they’ve implemented it properly or not. So “compatibility” falls
back to meaning “compatible with Microsoft Office”, not “conforming to an
official spec”.
Stick to ODF, aka ISO 26300. It’s only a small fraction of the complexity, and much easier to get right.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote at 05:55 this Tuesday (GMT):
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 02:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
And they made it even more confusing by introducing .docx too.
That’s a whole new format, which Microsoft has tried to railroad
through as some kind of “international standard” (ISO 29500). Except
the specification document is so opaque and incomprehensible, nobody
can be sure when they’ve implemented it properly or not. So
“compatibility” falls back to meaning “compatible with Microsoft
Office”, not “conforming to an official spec”.
Stick to ODF, aka ISO 26300. It’s only a small fraction of the
complexity, and much easier to get right.
Why not just use .rtf or .md? Those are way more universal imo.
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 06:25:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote at 05:55 this Tuesday (GMT):
On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 02:40:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
And they made it even more confusing by introducing .docx too.
That’s a whole new format, which Microsoft has tried to railroad
through as some kind of “international standard” (ISO 29500). Except >>> the specification document is so opaque and incomprehensible, nobody
can be sure when they’ve implemented it properly or not. So
“compatibility” falls back to meaning “compatible with Microsoft
Office”, not “conforming to an official spec”.
Stick to ODF, aka ISO 26300. It’s only a small fraction of the
complexity, and much easier to get right.
Why not just use .rtf or .md? Those are way more universal imo.
You mean Markdown? Sure, it’s nice and simple, but has no stylesheets.
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <[email protected]d> wrote at 07:55 this Wednesday
(GMT):
You mean Markdown? Sure, it’s nice and simple, but has no stylesheets.
Stylesheets?
On 6/6/2024 2:02 PM, HenHanna wrote:
On 5/31/2024 4:47 PM, Julieta Shem wrote:
Follow-up to comp.editors. (The other groups are even less involved
with software.)
HenHanna <[email protected]> writes:
anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
> I do. It's wonderful.
is Sumatra PDF viewer like an Editor in some way?
A viewer is typically not called an editor.
Useful Keyboard Shortcuts ???
[...]
Control-N to start a (blank) new window.
Shift-Control-N to clone a window.
Thanks for these ones! Very useful!
you're welcome !
i wish... There was a Keyboard pre-mapping to bring up the FAV pane.
Sometimes i hit Control-B
and add the current page to the list of Favorites
just to bring up the FAV pane.
On 6/9/2024 2:36 PM, HenHanna wrote:
On 6/6/2024 2:02 PM, HenHanna wrote:
On 5/31/2024 4:47 PM, Julieta Shem wrote:
Follow-up to comp.editors. (The other groups are even less involved
with software.)
HenHanna <[email protected]> writes:
anyone (else) using Sumatra PDF viewer?
> I do. It's wonderful.
is Sumatra PDF viewer like an Editor in some way?
A viewer is typically not called an editor. >>>>
Useful Keyboard Shortcuts ???
[...]
Control-N to start a (blank) new window.
Shift-Control-N to clone a window.
Thanks for these ones! Very useful!
you're welcome !
i wish... There was a Keyboard pre-mapping to bring up the FAV pane. >>>
Sometimes i hit Control-B
and add the current page to the list of Favorites
just to bring up the FAV pane.
z (3-way Toggling) is very useful.
and it's esp. useful now that i made the Margin-Color Dark-Blue
i'm using Dark-Mode all the time, and
a while ago, i set the Margin color (Left and Right) to very dark
blue... which works really fine.
The key was... this line: GradientColors = #000021 #000021
FixedPageUI [
TextColor = #000000
BackgroundColor = #ffffff
SelectionColor = #f5fc0c
WindowMargin = 2 4 2 4
PageSpacing = 4 4
GradientColors = #000021 #000021
HideScrollbars = false
]
i wish... There was a Keyboard pre-mapping to bring up the FAV pane.
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