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    From Julian THOMAS@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 13:37:37 2023
    (There is a Panasonic Call Bloker) For about $110 - claims to be
    preloaded with 14000 robocall/telemarketing numbers.

    Is this worthwhile? Seems to me a lot of the nuisance calls use
    spoofed numbers.

    Thanks

    Sent from JT's Ipad=20

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  • From Bill Horne@21:1/5 to Julian THOMAS on Sat Jan 14 23:05:15 2023
    On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 01:37:37PM -0500, Julian THOMAS wrote:
    (There is a Panasonic Call Bloker) For about $110 - claims to be
    preloaded with 14000 robocall/telemarketing numbers.

    Is this worthwhile? Seems to me a lot of the nuisance calls use
    spoofed numbers.

    Let’s talk about the real problem instead of magic boxes which depend
    on me believing that I have to pay for someone else’s greed. In a
    nutshell, it's that the telemarketing industry is taking advantage of
    the telephone etiquette that Americans were taught in schools at a
    young age: I learned in college that "Ma Bell" paid to distribute
    educational materials to elementary schools nationwide, so as to
    inculcate the next generation of consumers with habits that would
    increase profits:

    * Answer calls quickly
    * Be polite and listen carefully
    * Pay attention to what the caller is saying
    * Take notes

    Those lessons are still being taught, although by different
    means: I doubt there is anyone under 40 years old who could stand the
    thought of letting the electronic leash in their pocket buzz more
    than three times before they strike a pose and push "answer," just
    like all the actors on TV shows taught them to.

    The only solution to ever-more-intrusive sales tactics is to demand
    that our elected leaders start to care about OUR quality of life and
    OUR right to have the quiet enjoyment of OUR free time.

    At the moment, they obviously couldn’t care less.

    Bill Horne

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  • From John Levine@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 20:16:13 2023
    According to Julian THOMAS <[email protected]>:
    (There is a Panasonic Call Bloker) For about $110 - claims to be
    preloaded with 14000 robocall/telemarketing numbers.

    Is this worthwhile?

    No.

    Seems to me a lot of the nuisance calls use spoofed numbers.

    No kidding. My landline, which I think is provided by the same
    telco as yours, is pretty good at giving SUSPECTED SPAM with
    the caller ID.

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  • From Marco Moock@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 15 10:43:31 2023
    Am 14.01.2023 um 13:37:37 Uhr schrieb Julian THOMAS:

    Is this worthwhile? Seems to me a lot of the nuisance calls use
    spoofed numbers.

    Most abusive/advert calls I receive are from spoofed numbers, so such
    devices won't really help.

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  • From Garrett Wollman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Mon Jan 16 17:18:37 2023
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Bill Horne <[email protected]> wrote:

    Those lessons are still being taught, although by different
    means: I doubt there is anyone under 40 years old who could stand the
    thought of letting the electronic leash in their pocket buzz more
    than three times before they strike a pose and push "answer," just
    like all the actors on TV shows taught them to.

    You must be joking.

    If someone is so rude as to make an unscheduled voice call, they go
    direct to voicemail. If it was important they would have sent a text.

    -GAWollman

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  • From Bill Horne@21:1/5 to Garrett Wollman on Tue Jan 17 01:35:14 2023
    On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 05:18:37PM -0000, Garrett Wollman wrote:
    In article <[email protected]>,
    Bill Horne <[email protected]> wrote:

    Those lessons are still being taught, although by different
    means: I doubt there is anyone under 40 years old who could stand the
    thought of letting the electronic leash in their pocket buzz more
    than three times before they strike a pose and push "answer," just
    like all the actors on TV shows taught them to.

    You must be joking.

    If someone is so rude as to make an unscheduled voice call, they go
    direct to voicemail. If it was important they would have sent a
    text.

    It's possible you're observing a cultural shift that I haven't been
    exposed to. I know that my son, who is 32, ignores voice mails and
    didn't even set up a mailbox until he'd had his cellphone for over a
    year. However, I have always been surprised by how quickly both he and
    his friends check *ANY* signal from their cellphones, so I think my
    point is valid, at least for the millennial generation.

    Bill Horne

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  • From Michael Trew@21:1/5 to Bill Horne on Tue Jan 17 15:12:00 2023
    On 1/16/2023 20:35, Bill Horne wrote:
    On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 05:18:37PM -0000, Garrett Wollman wrote:
    In article<[email protected]>,
    Bill Horne<[email protected]> wrote:

    Those lessons are still being taught, although by different
    means: I doubt there is anyone under 40 years old who could stand the
    thought of letting the electronic leash in their pocket buzz more
    than three times before they strike a pose and push "answer," just
    like all the actors on TV shows taught them to.

    You must be joking.

    If someone is so rude as to make an unscheduled voice call, they go
    direct to voicemail. If it was important they would have sent a
    text.

    I simply don't understand that bizarre train of thought, but it is a
    very frustrating one to someone like myself, who does not use text messages.

    It's possible you're observing a cultural shift that I haven't been
    exposed to. I know that my son, who is 32, ignores voice mails and
    didn't even set up a mailbox until he'd had his cellphone for over a
    year. However, I have always been surprised by how quickly both he and
    his friends check *ANY* signal from their cellphones, so I think my
    point is valid, at least for the millennial generation.

    From the perspective of someone who is 27 (late Millennial), I think
    that you have a valid point. I don't care for smart phones, and I don't
    have one, which is quite a buck to the current trend. I am quick to
    answer the telephone when it rings.

    With most other people my age, they avoid answering phone calls, for
    reasons unknown to me. Their attention has shifted to social media...
    also text messages. Many will immediately hop to their phone if a text
    dings through (even if just to read and ignore), which I agree has
    replaced the need to answer a ringing phone for them.

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