• Re: Simulation vs. Execution in the Halting Problem --- CHALLENGE

    From Richard Damon@21:1/5 to olcott on Sun Jun 15 16:24:57 2025
    XPost: comp.theory, sci.logic

    On 6/15/25 4:02 PM, olcott wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 2:01 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
    On 6/15/25 11:27 AM, olcott wrote:
    On 6/15/2025 4:46 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-06-14 13:44:30 +0000, olcott said:

    On 6/14/2025 6:26 AM, Mikko wrote:
    On 2025-06-13 17:59:23 +0000, André G. Isaak said:

    On 2025-06-13 09:36, olcott wrote:
    On 6/13/2025 6:53 AM, Mikko wrote:

    Nothing is permanent. But you can (and to some extent do)
    maintan a web
    page as long as you need it for usenet discussions.

    I want people to be able to validate my work 50 years after I am >>>>>>>> dead.
    A web-page will not work for this.

    Usenet is dying. Do you seriously think it will be around in 50
    years?

    Some of its contents might still be on some web page.

    Storing every text message ever written seems
    to take < 1.0 TB.

    Doesn't matter. Unlikely that anyone would even notice that you wanted >>>> a validation of something.


    Anyone with sufficient technical competence carefully
    studying what I have said that is not so biased against
    my position that they can actually pay complete attention
    will understand that I am correct.

    Nope, only someone as mentally deranged as yourself would believe your
    lies.


    If this was not the case then there could be a correct
    rebuttal to what I am saying now. Instead of any correct
    rebuttal all that has been provided is persistently
    false assumptions.

    There has been, but it has appearently been over you head.

    You have demonstarted this by making this claim many times, and the
    errors you have ignored pointed out.


    A termination analyzer / partial halt decider is
    required to report on the behavior of the sequence
    of state transitions that its input actually specifies.
    It is not allowed to report on anything else.


    Right, and that sequence of states spedified by that input, is the
    sequence of states actually generated by that program when run,
    int main()
    {
      DDD(); // calls HHH(DDD) that is not allowed to report
    }        // on the behavior of its caller.

    Richard pretends to not understand that a function
    that calls another function is not itself the actual
    input to the function that it calls.

    And Olcott seems to think that asking about the behavior of a function
    by giving a full specification of it, somehow doesn't ask about all
    invokations of that functions, as if they could differ.


    void DDD()
    {
      HHH(DDD);
      return;
    }

    When I challenge anyone to show DDD correctly simulated
    by simulating termination analyzer HHH can possibly reach
    its own simulated termination analyzer they ignore this
    challenge because:

    Because you forget the fact that it is just a LIE that your HHH
    correctly simulates its input.

    Sorry, asking for someone to prove that the moon is made of green cheese
    just isn't a valid form of arguement.


    (a) They know that they are lying.

    YOU know you are lying.


    (b) They don't hardly understand these things at all and
        don't understand my challenge.

    You don't understand that programs are fixed entites, and changing them
    makes them something differe.


    (c) I don't know of any third option.

    You don't know ANY optins, as your claim is just false.


    THAT FACT THAT NOT ONE PERSON HAS MET THIS CHALLENGE
    IN SEVERAL YEARS IS VERY STRONG EVIDENCE THAT I AM CORRECT.


    All you are doing is proving that you are just a stupid idiot that
    doesn't know what he is talking about.

    It seems that lies are just your native tounge, and you can't say
    anthing but them.

    You have effetivelly admitted to all of this by failing to actually
    answer any of the rebuttals given to you, and thus you have strpped
    yourself of any ignorance defense, as all the ignorance is either just
    fained, deliberately self-imposed, and a sign of mental incapicity.

    Sorry, that is the reputation you are leaving as your legacy,

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