• Trump "Humilated" ??? Come ON Now !

    From c186282@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 18 03:04:58 2025
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    Wow, Trump isn't Gandalf The Grey or Dumbledore ...
    couldn't just MAGIC Putin into accepting all !

    That's REALITY folks.

    Putin IS a hard-ass - a severe hard-ass.
    He's not gonna automatically bow to Trump
    or Joe or Kamala or HRC or ANYBODY.

    Ukraine needs a fix and it's NOT gonna be
    easy AT ALL. Everybody is going to HATE it ...
    meaning it'll probably be "about right".

    SOME shit is just MESSY - and Ukraine is one
    of those things.

    OR do you want a nuke-war ? Eager to see
    your flesh drop off ? I've lived with that
    image for 70 years - the Whole Cold War Thing.

    Just hide under your school desk ......

    BEST tact, IMMEDIATELY impose the Russian Oil
    tariffs on India and China. NO delays. Vlad
    has to know we're serious - that The Money is
    going away .......

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 18 10:16:33 2025
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/18/2025 1:04 AM, c186282 wrote:
    Wow, Trump isn't Gandalf The Grey or Dumbledore ...
    couldn't just MAGIC Putin into accepting all !

    That's REALITY folks.

    Putin IS a hard-ass - a severe hard-ass.
    He's not gonna automatically bow to Trump
    or Joe or Kamala or HRC or ANYBODY.

    Ukraine needs a fix and it's NOT gonna be
    easy AT ALL. Everybody is going to HATE it ...
    meaning it'll probably be "about right".

    SOME shit is just MESSY - and Ukraine is one
    of those things.

    OR do you want a nuke-war ? Eager to see
    your flesh drop off ? I've lived with that
    image for 70 years - the Whole Cold War Thing.

    Just hide under your school desk ......

    BEST tact, IMMEDIATELY impose the Russian Oil
    tariffs on India and China. NO delays. Vlad
    has to know we're serious - that The Money is
    going away .......


    When one calculates the amount of hydrocarbon gases that were released
    into the atmosphere when NordStream II pipeline was blown up and then
    factor in the higher energy costs and fuel consumption as European and
    American airlines no longer have permission to fly over Russia when
    going from Europe or North America to, say, Japan, China, and the Middle
    East, it not only cost more economically but adds more "climate change"
    gases to the atmosphere, possibly resulting in the massive wildfires
    being witnessed all across Canada, Europe and the U.S..

    With the longer shipping routes around the African continent as ships
    avoid the Red Sea and Suez Canal due to blowback from Israel's genocide
    in Gaza, more fuel consumption and climate change gases are thrown into
    the picture, along with higher costs in the West.

    Perhaps the story of how the West is "winning" as it wages hot war
    against Russia through its proxy of Ukraine and through Israel against
    Syria and Iran (Russia's former proxies), doesn't hold up under deeper scrutiny. Hillary Clinton, Obama, Victoria Nuland and John McCain
    fucked up big time with their Maidan Revolution. Ukraine will be a
    repeat of Biden's disastrous retreat from Afghanistan, unless the West
    wants to have a full blown nuclear holocaust.

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Mon Aug 18 20:42:16 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/18/25 12:16 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 8/18/2025 1:04 AM, c186282 wrote:
    Wow, Trump isn't Gandalf The Grey or Dumbledore ...
    couldn't just MAGIC Putin into accepting all !

    That's REALITY folks.

    Putin IS a hard-ass - a severe hard-ass.
    He's not gonna automatically bow to Trump
    or Joe or Kamala or HRC or ANYBODY.

    Ukraine needs a fix and it's NOT gonna be
    easy AT ALL. Everybody is going to HATE it ...
    meaning it'll probably be "about right".

    SOME shit is just MESSY - and Ukraine is one
    of those things.

    OR do you want a nuke-war ? Eager to see
    your flesh drop off ? I've lived with that
    image for 70 years - the Whole Cold War Thing.

    Just hide under your school desk ......

    BEST tact, IMMEDIATELY impose the Russian Oil
    tariffs on India and China. NO delays. Vlad
    has to know we're serious - that The Money is
    going away .......


    When one calculates the amount of hydrocarbon gases that were released
    into the atmosphere when NordStream II pipeline was blown up and then
    factor in the higher energy costs and fuel consumption as European and American airlines no longer have permission to fly over Russia when
    going from Europe or North America to, say, Japan, China, and the Middle East, it not only cost more economically but adds more "climate change"
    gases to the atmosphere, possibly resulting in the massive wildfires
    being witnessed all across Canada, Europe and the U.S..

    I'm not a firm believer in "GW". Hey, "the science" said
    we'd all be dead by now.

    Sorry, just TOO much pure politics involved - can't tell
    what's real, what's "the science" or what's HYPE.

    It HAS been getting warmer for about 13,000 years - and
    the paleo record suggests that will continue for awhile
    until we're back to Steam Jungle Earth yet again.

    So, invest in air-conditioning companies.

    With the longer shipping routes around the African continent as ships
    avoid the Red Sea and Suez Canal due to blowback from Israel's genocide
    in Gaza, more fuel consumption and climate change gases are thrown into
    the picture, along with higher costs in the West.

    Perhaps the story of how the West is "winning" as it wages hot war
    against Russia through its proxy of Ukraine and through Israel against
    Syria and Iran (Russia's former proxies), doesn't hold up under deeper scrutiny.  Hillary Clinton, Obama, Victoria Nuland and John McCain
    fucked up big time with their Maidan Revolution.  Ukraine will be a
    repeat of Biden's disastrous retreat from Afghanistan, unless the West
    wants to have a full blown nuclear holocaust.

    Nobody is in THAT great a shape these days. Production
    and consumption are too spread out and it's harder to
    just unfurl the Union Jack and conquer/plunder stuff
    from lots of other people.

    Ukraine ... there ARE some sneaky back-routes that
    bypass the nuclear holocaust. Money/trade pressure
    CAN work fairly well. The oligarchs will NOT be
    happy with Putin. Might even put a shiv in his
    back if they lose too much cash. NO assurance the
    replacement Czar will be any 'better' though, just
    'different'.

    But, again, this story is the same all through time ;
    some of the names have been changed to protect
    the guilty.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 19 13:16:30 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/18/2025 6:42 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 8/18/25 12:16 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 8/18/2025 1:04 AM, c186282 wrote:
    Wow, Trump isn't Gandalf The Grey or Dumbledore ...
    couldn't just MAGIC Putin into accepting all !

    That's REALITY folks.

    Putin IS a hard-ass - a severe hard-ass.
    He's not gonna automatically bow to Trump
    or Joe or Kamala or HRC or ANYBODY.

    Ukraine needs a fix and it's NOT gonna be
    easy AT ALL. Everybody is going to HATE it ...
    meaning it'll probably be "about right".

    SOME shit is just MESSY - and Ukraine is one
    of those things.

    OR do you want a nuke-war ? Eager to see
    your flesh drop off ? I've lived with that
    image for 70 years - the Whole Cold War Thing.

    Just hide under your school desk ......

    BEST tact, IMMEDIATELY impose the Russian Oil
    tariffs on India and China. NO delays. Vlad
    has to know we're serious - that The Money is
    going away .......


    When one calculates the amount of hydrocarbon gases that were released
    into the atmosphere when NordStream II pipeline was blown up and then
    factor in the higher energy costs and fuel consumption as European and
    American airlines no longer have permission to fly over Russia when
    going from Europe or North America to, say, Japan, China, and the
    Middle East, it not only cost more economically but adds more "climate
    change" gases to the atmosphere, possibly resulting in the massive
    wildfires being witnessed all across Canada, Europe and the U.S..

      I'm not a firm believer in "GW". Hey, "the science" said
      we'd all be dead by now.

      Sorry, just TOO much pure politics involved - can't tell
      what's real, what's "the science" or what's HYPE.

      It HAS been getting warmer for about 13,000 years - and
      the paleo record suggests that will continue for awhile
      until we're back to Steam Jungle Earth yet again.

      So, invest in air-conditioning companies.

    With the longer shipping routes around the African continent as ships
    avoid the Red Sea and Suez Canal due to blowback from Israel's
    genocide in Gaza, more fuel consumption and climate change gases are
    thrown into the picture, along with higher costs in the West.

    Perhaps the story of how the West is "winning" as it wages hot war
    against Russia through its proxy of Ukraine and through Israel against
    Syria and Iran (Russia's former proxies), doesn't hold up under deeper
    scrutiny.  Hillary Clinton, Obama, Victoria Nuland and John McCain
    fucked up big time with their Maidan Revolution.  Ukraine will be a
    repeat of Biden's disastrous retreat from Afghanistan, unless the West
    wants to have a full blown nuclear holocaust.

      Nobody is in THAT great a shape these days. Production
      and consumption are too spread out and it's harder to
      just unfurl the Union Jack and conquer/plunder stuff
      from lots of other people.

      Ukraine ... there ARE some sneaky back-routes that
      bypass the nuclear holocaust. Money/trade pressure
      CAN work fairly well. The oligarchs will NOT be
      happy with Putin. Might even put a shiv in his
      back if they lose too much cash. NO assurance the
      replacement Czar will be any 'better' though, just
      'different'.

      But, again, this story is the same all through time ;
      some of the names have been changed to protect
      the guilty.

    When I was a kid, not only were all the pictures and videos of communist countries in black and white, but there seemed to be very few privately passenger cars behind the "Iron Curtain" or in "Red China." Lots of
    people riding buses and bicycles or just plain walking.

    It was said that when the movie "Grapes of Wrath" was shown in the USSR,
    the workers noticed that even the most downtrodden Okies were driving
    their own cars, so Stalin ordered the movie pulled from the theaters so
    that the proletariat wouldn't notice that no matter how bad things were
    in America, they were better than under communism.

    It seems that the Democrats and their counterparts in Europe want to
    turn the West into the USSR or Mao's Red China part II, with a few elite
    at the top with their private jets, yachts, luxury cars, and exclusive communities for the ruling class with everyone else treated like Gazans.

    --
    First we will destroy your identity. Then we will teach you your past
    was evil. You will conclude yourself that your inheritance, your
    homeland, your ancestors and your people are underserving of it all.
    Then we will complete your dispossession and dissolve you into the final
    phase of the Kalergi Plan.

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Tue Aug 19 22:48:29 2025
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.politics.usa, alt.survival
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 8/19/25 3:16 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 8/18/2025 6:42 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 8/18/25 12:16 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 8/18/2025 1:04 AM, c186282 wrote:
    Wow, Trump isn't Gandalf The Grey or Dumbledore ...
    couldn't just MAGIC Putin into accepting all !

    That's REALITY folks.

    Putin IS a hard-ass - a severe hard-ass.
    He's not gonna automatically bow to Trump
    or Joe or Kamala or HRC or ANYBODY.

    Ukraine needs a fix and it's NOT gonna be
    easy AT ALL. Everybody is going to HATE it ...
    meaning it'll probably be "about right".

    SOME shit is just MESSY - and Ukraine is one
    of those things.

    OR do you want a nuke-war ? Eager to see
    your flesh drop off ? I've lived with that
    image for 70 years - the Whole Cold War Thing.

    Just hide under your school desk ......

    BEST tact, IMMEDIATELY impose the Russian Oil
    tariffs on India and China. NO delays. Vlad
    has to know we're serious - that The Money is
    going away .......


    When one calculates the amount of hydrocarbon gases that were
    released into the atmosphere when NordStream II pipeline was blown up
    and then factor in the higher energy costs and fuel consumption as
    European and American airlines no longer have permission to fly over
    Russia when going from Europe or North America to, say, Japan, China,
    and the Middle East, it not only cost more economically but adds more
    "climate change" gases to the atmosphere, possibly resulting in the
    massive wildfires being witnessed all across Canada, Europe and the
    U.S..

       I'm not a firm believer in "GW". Hey, "the science" said
       we'd all be dead by now.

       Sorry, just TOO much pure politics involved - can't tell
       what's real, what's "the science" or what's HYPE.

       It HAS been getting warmer for about 13,000 years - and
       the paleo record suggests that will continue for awhile
       until we're back to Steam Jungle Earth yet again.

       So, invest in air-conditioning companies.

    With the longer shipping routes around the African continent as ships
    avoid the Red Sea and Suez Canal due to blowback from Israel's
    genocide in Gaza, more fuel consumption and climate change gases are
    thrown into the picture, along with higher costs in the West.

    Perhaps the story of how the West is "winning" as it wages hot war
    against Russia through its proxy of Ukraine and through Israel
    against Syria and Iran (Russia's former proxies), doesn't hold up
    under deeper scrutiny.  Hillary Clinton, Obama, Victoria Nuland and
    John McCain fucked up big time with their Maidan Revolution.  Ukraine
    will be a repeat of Biden's disastrous retreat from Afghanistan,
    unless the West wants to have a full blown nuclear holocaust.

       Nobody is in THAT great a shape these days. Production
       and consumption are too spread out and it's harder to
       just unfurl the Union Jack and conquer/plunder stuff
       from lots of other people.

       Ukraine ... there ARE some sneaky back-routes that
       bypass the nuclear holocaust. Money/trade pressure
       CAN work fairly well. The oligarchs will NOT be
       happy with Putin. Might even put a shiv in his
       back if they lose too much cash. NO assurance the
       replacement Czar will be any 'better' though, just
       'different'.

       But, again, this story is the same all through time ;
       some of the names have been changed to protect
       the guilty.

    When I was a kid, not only were all the pictures and videos of communist countries in black and white, but there seemed to be very few privately passenger cars behind the "Iron Curtain" or in "Red China."  Lots of
    people riding buses and bicycles or just plain walking.

    It was said that when the movie "Grapes of Wrath" was shown in the USSR,
    the workers noticed that even the most downtrodden Okies were driving
    their own cars, so Stalin ordered the movie pulled from the theaters so
    that the proletariat wouldn't notice that no matter how bad things were
    in America, they were better than under communism.

    It seems that the Democrats and their counterparts in Europe want to
    turn the West into the USSR or Mao's Red China part II, with a few elite
    at the top with their private jets, yachts, luxury cars, and exclusive communities for the ruling class with everyone else treated like Gazans.


    The notion of "being King", a "noble elite", has not
    exited the human imagination. Various kinds of political
    machinations, ideologies, scams, can be implemented to
    functionally realize that dream.

    Marxist-Leninism/Maoism was just another way to create
    a 'noble elite' - just DISGUISED in deep bullshit so
    the peasants/proles wouldn't see it. Even now the top
    'socialists', the movers and shakers, tend to be of
    the wealthiest class - including Soros. They do NOT
    want a world of/by The People - just the IMPRESSION
    thereof, the Big Lie.

    Humans, like a LOT of beasties, are hard-wired to
    create and enforce a dominance hierarchy ... the
    alphas, betas, gammas etc. "Pecking order". This
    is in all our heads for umpteen million years.
    Despite shit, we even unconsciously TREND towards
    that sort of order. The enemy of democracy is US.

    Despite the initial promise of The Net, many govts
    are STILL able to silence/hide/suppress ideas and
    information that are not in their favor. When that
    is not enough they sow large amounts of Fake News
    so nobody can tell what's real and what's not.
    Don't blame JUST "the left" either ....

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Gronk@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 27 00:13:57 2025
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    c186282 wrote:
    Wow, Trump isn't Gandalf The Grey or Dumbledore ...
    couldn't just MAGIC Putin into accepting all !

    That's REALITY folks.

    Here's reality



    https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia-ukraine-war-un-election-a78ecb843af452b8dda1d52d137ca893
    July 2, 2024

    Donald Trump has repeatedly said he could settle
    the war between Russia and Ukraine in one day if
    he’s elected president again. Russia’s United
    Nations ambassador says he can’t.

    When asked to respond to the claim from the
    presumptive Republican nominee, Vassily Nebenzia
    told reporters Monday that “the Ukrainian crisis
    cannot be solved in one day.”

    At a CNN town hall in May 2023, Trump said:
    “They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want
    them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll
    have that done in 24 hours.”


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/trump-vowed-end-ukraine-war-24-hours-conflict-still-rages-rcna203085
    April 28, 2025,

    President Donald Trump pledged to end the war in Ukraine within his
    first 24 hours in office. But nearly 100 days into his second term, the conflict between Moscow and Kyiv grinds on.

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