• Re: Vladimir Putin CONFIRMS That The War In Ukraine NEVER Wouldn't Happ

    From pothead@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Aug 16 21:32:08 2025
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    On 2025-08-16, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:

    So, you expected Trump to "prevail"?

    And now, you're disappointed?

    What do you want... war or peace?

    =====

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 16:19:16 +0000, Lee says...

    The war in Ukraine will continue and
    Vladimir Putin has outmanoeuvred yet
    another US president.

    You mean like he did Biden, when they started the war on HIS watch.


    Vladimir Putin CONFIRMS That The War In Ukraine NEVER Wouldn't Happened If Trump Was In Office

    Trump was RIGHT!

    "Today, when President Trump says that if he was President back then, there would be no war. And I'm quite sure that it would
    indeed be. I can confirm that." - The Left's hero, Putin

    Of course, that was until lying Hillary had the Steele Dossier MADE UP, and started using Russia as an excuse for losing, when we
    ALL know... Russia's meddled in EVERY election since 1945.

    "I'd like to remind you that in 2022, during the last contact with the previous administration, I tried to convince my previous
    American colleague that it should not, the situation should not be brought to the point of no return, when it would come to
    hostilities, and I said it quite directly back then that it's a big mistake. Today, when President Trump saying that IF HE WAS THE
    PRESIDENT THERE WILL BE NO WAR, AND I'M QUITE SURE THAT IT WOULD INDEED BE SO. I can confirm that. I think that overall, me and
    President Trump have built a very good business-like and trustworthy contact, and have every reason to believe that moving down
    this path we can come and the sooner the better, to the end of the conflict in Ukraine." - Vladimir Putin

    Such a colluder!

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1956798682252152832/vid/avc1/480x270/hOi3l-vtZt6Pu5zk.mp4?tag=14

    Putin may not agree with Trump but he respects him.
    So do the other world leaders.
    Flying the B2 and 4 F-35s over Trump and Biden was brilliant.
    It shows that Trump is not Biden, and Putin knows that already.
    The days of an appeasing walking corpse are over.

    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
    -- Anne Frank

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  • From pothead@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Aug 16 21:34:31 2025
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    On 2025-08-16, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 16:33:37 +0000, Lee says...

    Maybe Trump should not have promised
    to end the Ukraine war even before he took
    office.

    Maybe Biden shouldn't have LET Russia go to war with Ukraine.

    Whose fault is that?

    Uhhh... Kamala's?

    No...

    =====

    Vladimir Putin CONFIRMS That The War In Ukraine NEVER Wouldn't Happened If Trump Was In Office

    Trump was RIGHT!

    "Today, when President Trump says that if he was President back then, there would be no war. And I'm quite sure that it would
    indeed be. I can confirm that." - The Left's hero, Putin

    Of course, that was until lying Hillary had the Steele Dossier MADE UP, and started using Russia as an excuse for losing, when we
    ALL know... Russia's meddled in EVERY election since 1945.

    "I'd like to remind you that in 2022, during the last contact with the previous administration, I tried to convince my previous
    American colleague that it should not, the situation should not be brought to the point of no return, when it would come to
    hostilities, and I said it quite directly back then that it's a big mistake. Today, when President Trump saying that IF HE WAS THE
    PRESIDENT THERE WILL BE NO WAR, AND I'M QUITE SURE THAT IT WOULD INDEED BE SO. I can confirm that. I think that overall, me and
    President Trump have built a very good business-like and trustworthy contact, and have every reason to believe that moving down
    this path we can come and the sooner the better, to the end of the conflict in Ukraine." - Vladimir Putin

    Such a colluder!

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1956798682252152832/vid/avc1/480x270/hOi3l-vtZt6Pu5zk.mp4?tag=14

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not responded to by the west, opened the door.

    --
    pothead

    "Our lives are fashioned by our choices. First we make our choices.
    Then our choices make us."
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Aug 16 19:17:37 2025
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    On 2025-08-16 13:58, AlleyCat wrote:

    So, you expected Trump to "prevail"?

    And now, you're disappointed?

    What do you want... war or peace?

    =====

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 16:19:16 +0000, Lee says...

    The war in Ukraine will continue and Vladimir Putin has
    outmanoeuvred yet another US president.

    You mean like he did Biden, when they started the war on HIS watch.


    Vladimir Putin CONFIRMS That The War In Ukraine NEVER Wouldn't
    Happened If Trump Was In Office
    And you believe Putin?

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Sat Aug 16 20:39:59 2025
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    On 2025-08-16 14:32, pothead wrote:
    Putin may not agree with Trump but he respects him.

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

    So do the other world leaders.

    Oh, you're serious!

    LOLLLLOLOLOLOLOLOL

    Flying the B2 and 4 F-35s over Trump and Biden was brilliant.
    It shows that Trump is not Biden, and Putin knows that already.
    The days of an appeasing walking corpse are over.

    Putin OWNS Trump.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to pothead on Sun Aug 17 17:35:55 2025
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    On 2025-08-16 14:34, pothead wrote:
    On 2025-08-16, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 16:33:37 +0000, Lee says...

    Maybe Trump should not have promised to end the Ukraine war even
    before he took office.

    Maybe Biden shouldn't have LET Russia go to war with Ukraine.

    Whose fault is that?

    Uhhh... Kamala's?

    No...

    =====

    Vladimir Putin CONFIRMS That The War In Ukraine NEVER Wouldn't
    Happened If Trump Was In Office

    Trump was RIGHT!

    "Today, when President Trump says that if he was President back
    then, there would be no war. And I'm quite sure that it would
    indeed be. I can confirm that." - The Left's hero, Putin

    Of course, that was until lying Hillary had the Steele Dossier
    MADE UP, and started using Russia as an excuse for losing, when we
    ALL know... Russia's meddled in EVERY election since 1945.

    "I'd like to remind you that in 2022, during the last contact with
    the previous administration, I tried to convince my previous
    American colleague that it should not, the situation should not be
    brought to the point of no return, when it would come to
    hostilities, and I said it quite directly back then that it's a
    big mistake. Today, when President Trump saying that IF HE WAS THE
    PRESIDENT THERE WILL BE NO WAR, AND I'M QUITE SURE THAT IT WOULD
    INDEED BE SO. I can confirm that. I think that overall, me and
    President Trump have built a very good business-like and
    trustworthy contact, and have every reason to believe that moving
    down this path we can come and the sooner the better, to the end
    of the conflict in Ukraine." - Vladimir Putin

    Such a colluder!

    https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1956798682252152832/vid/
    avc1/480x270/hOi3l-vtZt6Pu5zk.mp4?tag=14

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not
    responded to by the west, opened the door.
    Let's see that quote, complete with context.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Aug 18 14:19:33 2025
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    On 2025-08-17 19:13, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:35:55 -0700, Alan says...

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not
    responded to by the west, opened the door.

    Let's see that quote, complete with context.

    OK.

    Do it.

    I'd like to see it too!

    Lakehouse rich boy forgets... as usual...

    Quotation marks can be used to "signal" ironic, sarcastic, or otherwise a non-standard sense. They indicate the writer is
    distancing themselves from the term or casting doubt on its validity.

    When doing this, the author or speaker can say whatever the fuck he wants, as long as it's in the ballpark. The author simply
    substituted "small" for "minor".

    Why do I have to teach you everything?

    Now... does THAT satisfy your pedantic semantic bullshit?

    "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one
    thing if it's a MINOR INCURSION and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do."

    "Minor"... "small"... does THAT make a difference to you?
    The difference is in the rest of what he said.

    Biden never said that there would not be a response; just that there
    might be a fight over HOW to respond.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Mon Aug 18 18:17:04 2025
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    On 2025-08-18 17:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:19:33 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-17 19:13, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:35:55 -0700, Alan says...

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not
    responded to by the west, opened the door.

    Let's see that quote, complete with context.

    OK.

    Do it.

    I'd like to see it too!

    Lakehouse rich boy forgets... as usual...

    Quotation marks can be used to "signal" ironic, sarcastic, or otherwise a non-standard sense. They indicate the writer is
    distancing themselves from the term or casting doubt on its validity.

    When doing this, the author or speaker can say whatever the fuck he wants, as long as it's in the ballpark. The author simply
    substituted "small" for "minor".

    Why do I have to teach you everything?

    Now... does THAT satisfy your pedantic semantic bullshit?

    "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one
    thing if it's a MINOR INCURSION and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do."

    "Minor"... "small"... does THAT make a difference to you?

    The difference is in the rest of what he said.

    It doesn't matter.

    Biden never said that there would not be a response

    WHO said that?
    Literally, Biden did.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Tue Aug 19 13:05:07 2025
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    On 2025-08-18 19:49, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:17:04 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-18 17:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:19:33 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-17 19:13, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:35:55 -0700, Alan says...

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not
    responded to by the west, opened the door.

    Let's see that quote, complete with context.

    OK.

    Do it.

    I'd like to see it too!

    Lakehouse rich boy forgets... as usual...

    Quotation marks can be used to "signal" ironic, sarcastic, or otherwise a non-standard sense. They indicate the writer is
    distancing themselves from the term or casting doubt on its validity. >>>>>
    When doing this, the author or speaker can say whatever the fuck he wants, as long as it's in the ballpark. The author simply
    substituted "small" for "minor".

    Why do I have to teach you everything?

    Now... does THAT satisfy your pedantic semantic bullshit?

    "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one
    thing if it's a MINOR INCURSION and then we end up having a fight about what to do and not do."

    "Minor"... "small"... does THAT make a difference to you?

    The difference is in the rest of what he said.

    It doesn't matter.

    Biden never said that there would not be a response

    WHO said that?

    Literally, Biden did.

    Double negative aside, Biden said there would never not be a response?

    You changed my sentence, Loser.

    My sentence makes perfect sense.

    I stated that Biden never made a particular statement.

    You moved the "never" to an entirely different place in the sentence.

    You're problem is you are too dumb to realize that people see right
    through the bullshit you try to pull.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Tue Aug 19 13:30:42 2025
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    On 2025-08-19 13:23, J Carlson wrote:
    On 8/19/2025 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-18 19:49, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:17:04 -0700,  Alan says...


    On 2025-08-18 17:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:19:33 -0700,  Alan says...


    On 2025-08-17 19:13, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:35:55 -0700,  Alan says...

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not >>>>>>>>> responded to by the west, opened the door.

    Let's see that quote, complete with context.

    OK.

    Do it.

    I'd like to see it too!

    Lakehouse rich boy forgets... as usual...

    Quotation marks can be used to "signal" ironic, sarcastic, or
    otherwise a non-standard sense. They indicate the writer is
    distancing themselves from the term or casting doubt on its
    validity.

    When doing this, the author or speaker can say whatever the fuck >>>>>>> he wants, as long as it's in the ballpark. The author simply
    substituted "small" for "minor".

    Why do I have to teach you everything?

    Now... does THAT satisfy your pedantic semantic bullshit?

    "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held
    accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one >>>>>>> thing if it's a MINOR INCURSION and then we end up having a fight >>>>>>> about what to do and not do."

    "Minor"... "small"... does THAT make a difference to you?

    The difference is in the rest of what he said.

    It doesn't matter.
    Biden never said that there would not be a response

    WHO said that?

    Literally, Biden did.

    Double negative aside, Biden said there would never not be a response?

    You changed my sentence, Loser.

    My sentence makes perfect sense.

    I stated that Biden never made a particular statement.

    You moved the "never" to an entirely different place in the sentence.

    You're problem is you are too dumb to realize that people see right
    through the bullshit you try to pull.

    That's why he's down there with Kremlin Girl for least engagement in a.f.r.-l. In fact, you're just about the only person who consistently
    engages with the lying troll.

    Oh, come on! It's fun!

    The hilarious part is Phil thinks he's so clever!

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 19 13:23:46 2025
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    On 8/19/2025 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-18 19:49, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:17:04 -0700,  Alan says...


    On 2025-08-18 17:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:19:33 -0700,  Alan says...


    On 2025-08-17 19:13, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:35:55 -0700,  Alan says...

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not
    responded to by the west, opened the door.

    Let's see that quote, complete with context.

    OK.

    Do it.

    I'd like to see it too!

    Lakehouse rich boy forgets... as usual...

    Quotation marks can be used to "signal" ironic, sarcastic, or otherwise a
    non-standard sense. They indicate the writer is
    distancing themselves from the term or casting doubt on its validity. >>>>>>
    When doing this, the author or speaker can say whatever the fuck he wants,
    as long as it's in the ballpark. The author simply
    substituted "small" for "minor".

    Why do I have to teach you everything?

    Now... does THAT satisfy your pedantic semantic bullshit?

    "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held accountable
    if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one
    thing if it's a MINOR INCURSION and then we end up having a fight about >>>>>> what to do and not do."

    "Minor"... "small"... does THAT make a difference to you?

    The difference is in the rest of what he said.

    It doesn't matter.
    Biden never said that there would not be a response

    WHO said that?

    Literally, Biden did.

    Double negative aside, Biden said there would never not be a response?

    You changed my sentence, Loser.

    My sentence makes perfect sense.

    I stated that Biden never made a particular statement.

    You moved the "never" to an entirely different place in the sentence.

    You're problem is you are too dumb to realize that people see right through the
    bullshit you try to pull.

    That's why he's down there with Kremlin Girl for least engagement in a.f.r.-l. In fact, you're just about the only person who consistently engages with the lying troll.

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  • From J Carlson@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 19 14:42:33 2025
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    On 8/19/2025 1:30 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 13:23, J Carlson wrote:
    On 8/19/2025 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-18 19:49, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:17:04 -0700,  Alan says...


    On 2025-08-18 17:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:19:33 -0700,  Alan says...


    On 2025-08-17 19:13, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:35:55 -0700,  Alan says...

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not >>>>>>>>>> responded to by the west, opened the door.

    Let's see that quote, complete with context.

    OK.

    Do it.

    I'd like to see it too!

    Lakehouse rich boy forgets... as usual...

    Quotation marks can be used to "signal" ironic, sarcastic, or otherwise
    a non-standard sense. They indicate the writer is
    distancing themselves from the term or casting doubt on its validity. >>>>>>>>
    When doing this, the author or speaker can say whatever the fuck he >>>>>>>> wants, as long as it's in the ballpark. The author simply
    substituted "small" for "minor".

    Why do I have to teach you everything?

    Now... does THAT satisfy your pedantic semantic bullshit?

    "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held
    accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's one >>>>>>>> thing if it's a MINOR INCURSION and then we end up having a fight about
    what to do and not do."

    "Minor"... "small"... does THAT make a difference to you?

    The difference is in the rest of what he said.

    It doesn't matter.
    Biden never said that there would not be a response

    WHO said that?

    Literally, Biden did.

    Double negative aside, Biden said there would never not be a response?

    You changed my sentence, Loser.

    My sentence makes perfect sense.

    I stated that Biden never made a particular statement.

    You moved the "never" to an entirely different place in the sentence.

    You're problem is you are too dumb to realize that people see right through >>> the bullshit you try to pull.

    That's why he's down there with Kremlin Girl for least engagement in a.f.r.-l.
    In fact, you're just about the only person who consistently engages with the >> lying troll.

    Oh, come on! It's fun!

    The hilarious part is Phil thinks he's so clever!

    That's the Dunning-Kruger effect in all its glory. He's too stupid to know he isn't clever.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to J Carlson on Tue Aug 19 18:40:35 2025
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    On 8/19/25 17:42, J Carlson wrote:
    On 8/19/2025 1:30 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-19 13:23, J Carlson wrote:
    On 8/19/2025 1:05 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-18 19:49, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 18:17:04 -0700,  Alan says...


    On 2025-08-18 17:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:19:33 -0700,  Alan says...


    On 2025-08-17 19:13, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 17:35:55 -0700,  Alan says...

    Well per Biden, a "small incursion into Ukraine" would be not >>>>>>>>>>> responded to by the west, opened the door.

    Let's see that quote, complete with context.

    OK.

    Do it.

    I'd like to see it too!

    Lakehouse rich boy forgets... as usual...

    Quotation marks can be used to "signal" ironic, sarcastic, or >>>>>>>>> otherwise a non-standard sense. They indicate the writer is
    distancing themselves from the term or casting doubt on its
    validity.

    When doing this, the author or speaker can say whatever the
    fuck he wants, as long as it's in the ballpark. The author simply >>>>>>>>> substituted "small" for "minor".

    Why do I have to teach you everything?

    Now... does THAT satisfy your pedantic semantic bullshit?

    "I think what you're going to see is that Russia will be held >>>>>>>>> accountable if it invades. And it depends on what it does. It's >>>>>>>>> one
    thing if it's a MINOR INCURSION and then we end up having a
    fight about what to do and not do."

    "Minor"... "small"... does THAT make a difference to you?

    The difference is in the rest of what he said.

    It doesn't matter.
    Biden never said that there would not be a response

    WHO said that?

    Literally, Biden did.

    Double negative aside, Biden said there would never not be a response? >>>>
    You changed my sentence, Loser.

    My sentence makes perfect sense.

    I stated that Biden never made a particular statement.

    You moved the "never" to an entirely different place in the sentence.

    You're problem is you are too dumb to realize that people see right
    through the bullshit you try to pull.

    That's why he's down there with Kremlin Girl for least engagement in
    a.f.r.-l. In fact, you're just about the only person who consistently
    engages with the lying troll.

    Oh, come on! It's fun!

    The hilarious part is Phil thinks he's so clever!

    That's the Dunning-Kruger effect in all its glory. He's too stupid to
    know he isn't clever.

    Plus...well...its as if no one knows who the “little green men” really were, or other Russian proxies...

    Such as the ones in this attack in 2017:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Avdiivka_(2017)>

    ...which is why Russia is listed as a belligerent.

    Note that this offense started on 29 January 2017, just a week after
    Trump took office and not a coincidence: it was a test from Putin to see
    if Trump would be his lapdog.

    Trump did something worse than doing nothing: he deliberately withheld
    US weapons for Ukraine which had been congressionally authorized & appropriated. That's how we know that Trump's 100% in Putin's pocket.


    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Wed Aug 20 07:28:04 2025
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    On 8/18/25 20:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:05:54 +0000, Lee says...

    Wah wah but Biden!

    No wah wah... Biden MATTERS still, since he's the one that allowed the war to start, when Trump wouldn't have.

    Here are 53 times Trump said he'd end
    Ukraine war

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    Russia's attacks on Ukraine started before Biden took office in 2021.
    Don't you recall the "little green men" and other lame Russian proxies?


    His fault.

    Putin said the war would never have happened if Trump had been President.

    Putin lied.

    Because Russia did attack while Trump was POTUS.

    Such as this attack in 2017:

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Avdiivka_(2017)>

    ...which is why Russia is listed as a belligerent.


    FWIW, do note that this offense started on 29 January 2017, which is
    just a mere week after Trump took office and not a coincidence: it was a
    test from Putin to see if Trump would be his lapdog.

    And what did Putin's lapdog to? Trump did something worse than doing
    nothing: he deliberately withheld US weapons for Ukraine which had been congressionally authorized & appropriated. That's how we know that
    Trump is 100% in Putin's pocket.

    And MAGAs actually believed "end it in 24 hrs", hook line & sinker.


    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Thu Aug 21 14:34:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-20 18:23, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 07:28:04 -0400, -hh says...

    On 8/18/25 20:06, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 15:05:54 +0000, Lee says...

    Wah wah but Biden!

    No wah wah... Biden MATTERS still, since he's the one that allowed the war to start, when Trump wouldn't have.

    Here are 53 times Trump said he'd end
    Ukraine war

    Doesn't matter... Biden let it happen.

    Russia's attacks on Ukraine started before Biden took office in 2021.

    Off-topic non-sequitur.

    Russia's myriad "attacks" are not the topic.

    Russia "attacked" other countries during Obama's failed reign too, but that's all for another day to discuss.

    Stay on topic, lakehouse rich boy clone.
    So as long as something started before Trump took office, he is never,
    ever responsible for how it progresses on his watch, Loser?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Fri Aug 22 21:39:55 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-22 18:44, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 07:28:04 -0400, -hh says...

    Because Russia did attack while Trump was POTUS.

    And was over while Trump was POTUS.

    Trump did that! (see below)

    Winning.

    First off... not a "war".

    Did Biden stop the current war?

    Researching your own claims helps stop you from looking stupid.
    Nothing is "over", Loser.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Aug 23 09:21:24 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-22 18:45, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 14:34:24 -0700, Alan says...

    Stay on topic, lakehouse rich boy clone.

    So as long as something started before Trump took office, he is never,
    ever responsible for how it progresses on his watch, Loser?

    Is that question:

    A) Rhetorical?
    B) A non-sequitur?
    C) A Red Herring?
    D) A bullshit loaded question?
    E) PLONK?

    I'm leaning towards E, because, by you asking, you must have an answer in your puny little gay mind. Tell us EXACTLY how Trump can
    be "responsible", your word, for the Russo-Ukrainian war?

    Was Obama responsible, AT ALL, for the Afghanistan War that started under Bush? How? Obama did, after all, keep the war going. At
    least Trump's trying to stop the war that started under Biden's watch.

    You can't win, if you keep pulling your usual bullshit.
    What bullshit?

    You seem to want to create a built-in excuse for all of Trump's failures.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to AlleyCat on Sat Aug 23 21:42:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-23 20:25, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 09:21:24 -0700, Alan says...


    On 2025-08-22 18:45, AlleyCat wrote:

    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 14:34:24 -0700, Alan says...

    Stay on topic, lakehouse rich boy clone.

    So as long as something started before Trump took office, he is never, >>>> ever responsible for how it progresses on his watch, Loser?

    Is that question:

    A) Rhetorical?
    B) A non-sequitur?
    C) A Red Herring?
    D) A bullshit loaded question?
    E) PLONK?

    I'm leaning towards E, because, by you asking, you must have an answer in your puny little gay mind. Tell us EXACTLY how Trump can
    be "responsible", your word, for the Russo-Ukrainian war?

    Was Obama responsible, AT ALL, for the Afghanistan War that started under Bush? How? Obama did, after all, keep the war going. At
    least Trump's trying to stop the war that started under Biden's watch.

    You can't win, if you keep pulling your usual bullshit.

    What bullshit?

    You seem to want to create a built-in excuse for all of Trump's failures.

    "B,C,D and E" it is.

    LOL... lakehouse rich shit, thinks if Trump asks Putin and Zelenskyy to stop killing each others' soldiers, it's Trump's "failure".

    Biden spoke with Putin at least 9 times, and no telling how many times the little Azov Nazi Zelenskyy came to America to beg for
    money, so if "failing" was even a possibility here, Biden "failed" WAY more times than Trump.

    Where were you and your whining ways when Biden was "failing" at a peace agreement between Putin and Zelenskyy?

    Seriously... get help.

    PLONK!

    LOL!

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