• This is what victory looks like

    From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 15 13:00:55 2025
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    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a
    leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family destruction from drugs.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Fri Aug 15 10:14:55 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

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  • From chine.bleu@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Aug 15 12:36:20 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
    leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b


    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    It is a win for Mexico. They get toxic people out of their country and
    make them our responsibility.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to chine.bleu on Fri Aug 15 12:45:47 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-15 12:36, chine.bleu wrote:
    Alan wrote:
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
    leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel >>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-
    justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b


    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    It is a win for Mexico. They get toxic people out of their country and
    make them our responsibility.


    And the cartels will roll merrily on with others in charge.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Aug 16 10:32:35 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a
    leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Aug 16 08:23:27 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
    leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel >>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Aug 17 10:25:43 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal >>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a >>>> leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is >>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
    after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
    fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.

    The reductions indicate that efforts on both sides of the border to
    stop the entry of migrants and narcotics to the United States are
    working, even as the U.S. government continues to pressure its Mexican counterpart to do more to stem these flows."

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sun Aug 17 13:05:26 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the >>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal >>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a >>>>> leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel >>>>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is >>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa >>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family >>>>> destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to >>>> the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
    after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
    fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.

    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
    and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
    country by how much is seized at the borders.


    The reductions indicate that efforts on both sides of the border to
    stop the entry of migrants and narcotics to the United States are
    working, even as the U.S. government continues to pressure its Mexican counterpart to do more to stem these flows."

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/


    Even the report recognizes this:

    'A 59% increase in seizures of ammunition and parts of weapons compared
    to “the same [unspecified] period of last year.”'

    versus

    'A 70% reduction in fentanyl seizures, “with 20,000 pounds of fentanyl, heroin and methamphetamine confiscated in total (45% reduction) in the
    past 90 days.”'

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Aug 18 06:56:56 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the >>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal >>>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a >>>>>> leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel >>>>>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is >>>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa >>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family >>>>>> destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to >>>>> the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
    after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
    fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.

    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
    and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
    country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And
    somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
    cartel heads....



    The reductions indicate that efforts on both sides of the border to
    stop the entry of migrants and narcotics to the United States are
    working, even as the U.S. government continues to pressure its Mexican
    counterpart to do more to stem these flows."

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/


    Even the report recognizes this:

    'A 59% increase in seizures of ammunition and parts of weapons compared
    to �the same [unspecified] period of last year.�'

    versus

    'A 70% reduction in fentanyl seizures, �with 20,000 pounds of fentanyl, >heroin and methamphetamine confiscated in total (45% reduction) in the
    past 90 days.�'

    Thank you for confirming what I said.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Mon Aug 18 09:22:19 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the >>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal >>>>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a >>>>>>> leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is >>>>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County >>>>>>> sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa >>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family >>>>>>> destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to >>>>>> the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
    after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
    fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.

    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
    and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
    country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And
    somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
    cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
    country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?



    The reductions indicate that efforts on both sides of the border to
    stop the entry of migrants and narcotics to the United States are
    working, even as the U.S. government continues to pressure its Mexican
    counterpart to do more to stem these flows."

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/


    Even the report recognizes this:

    'A 59% increase in seizures of ammunition and parts of weapons compared
    to “the same [unspecified] period of last year.”'

    versus

    'A 70% reduction in fentanyl seizures, “with 20,000 pounds of fentanyl,
    heroin and methamphetamine confiscated in total (45% reduction) in the
    past 90 days.”'

    Thank you for confirming what I said.

    You don't even see the contradiction, do you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 19 06:57:18 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the >>>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
    administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal >>>>>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a >>>>>>>> leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel >>>>>>>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is >>>>>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County >>>>>>>> sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa >>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family >>>>>>>> destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to >>>>>>> the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
    after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
    fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.

    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
    and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
    country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And
    somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
    cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the >country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?


    Laughter!

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how
    they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.



    The reductions indicate that efforts on both sides of the border to
    stop the entry of migrants and narcotics to the United States are
    working, even as the U.S. government continues to pressure its Mexican >>>> counterpart to do more to stem these flows."

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/


    Even the report recognizes this:

    'A 59% increase in seizures of ammunition and parts of weapons compared
    to �the same [unspecified] period of last year.�'

    versus

    'A 70% reduction in fentanyl seizures, �with 20,000 pounds of fentanyl,
    heroin and methamphetamine confiscated in total (45% reduction) in the
    past 90 days.�'

    Thank you for confirming what I said.

    You don't even see the contradiction, do you?

    You don't even see that you're just making stuff up as you go, do you?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Tue Aug 19 13:12:39 2025
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    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the >>>>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump >>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
    leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County >>>>>>>>> sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa >>>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family >>>>>>>>> destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to >>>>>>>> the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
    after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
    fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year. >>>>
    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels, >>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
    country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And
    somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
    cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
    country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?


    Laughter!

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how
    they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.

    No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.




    The reductions indicate that efforts on both sides of the border to
    stop the entry of migrants and narcotics to the United States are
    working, even as the U.S. government continues to pressure its Mexican >>>>> counterpart to do more to stem these flows."

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/


    Even the report recognizes this:

    'A 59% increase in seizures of ammunition and parts of weapons compared >>>> to “the same [unspecified] period of last year.”'

    versus

    'A 70% reduction in fentanyl seizures, “with 20,000 pounds of fentanyl, >>>> heroin and methamphetamine confiscated in total (45% reduction) in the >>>> past 90 days.”'

    Thank you for confirming what I said.

    You don't even see the contradiction, do you?

    You don't even see that you're just making stuff up as you go, do you?

    If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country...

    ...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more
    ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?

    You can't have it both ways.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Aug 20 06:54:28 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the >>>>>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump >>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a
    leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County >>>>>>>>>> sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa >>>>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities >>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of >>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year. >>>>>
    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels, >>>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the >>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And
    somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
    cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
    country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?


    Laughter!

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how
    they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.

    No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures >automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.


    You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.

    Duh.

    If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call
    the AP to correct them.

    Laughter!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Wed Aug 20 09:41:51 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-20 03:54, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump >>>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
    leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County >>>>>>>>>>> sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?

    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities >>>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of >>>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year. >>>>>>
    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels, >>>>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the >>>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And
    somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug >>>>> cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
    country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?


    Laughter!

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how
    they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.

    No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures
    automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.


    You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.

    Duh.

    If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call
    the AP to correct them.

    Laughter!


    AP didn't say a word about seizures and how they relate to how much
    contraband got into the country, doofus. When it comes to seizures,
    you're thinking about the link you provided (now snipped; imagine that!)
    from Mexico News Daily.

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/

    And the fact that they draw erroneous conclusions by assuming a
    correlation without proof really isn't my problem.

    But let's put back the situation you snipped:

    If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country...

    ...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more
    ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?

    Now run and hide again.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Aug 21 06:53:33 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:41:51 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-20 03:54, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a
    leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County >>>>>>>>>>>> sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa >>>>>>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US? >>>>>>>>>
    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities >>>>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of >>>>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year. >>>>>>>
    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels, >>>>>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the >>>>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And >>>>>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug >>>>>> cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the >>>>> country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?


    Laughter!

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how
    they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.

    No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures
    automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.


    You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.

    Duh.

    If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call
    the AP to correct them.

    Laughter!


    AP didn't say a word about seizures and how they relate to how much >contraband got into the country, doofus. When it comes to seizures,
    you're thinking about the link you provided (now snipped; imagine that!)
    from Mexico News Daily.

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/

    You are correct and I erred in attributing that to the AP. Oddly, now
    your theory is that I deliberately snipped an article that supports my position?

    Laughter!


    And the fact that they draw erroneous conclusions by assuming a
    correlation without proof really isn't my problem.

    If you have an issue with their conclusion go talk to them. Be sure
    to let us know what they say about your opinion.



    But let's put back the situation you snipped:

    If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country...

    The word you're looking for is "fewer".


    ...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more >ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?

    It may or may not but since we're discussing drugs in this thread, I
    don't care.



    Now run and hide again.


    Laughter! I'm right here dude.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to NoBody on Thu Aug 21 09:16:46 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On 2025-08-21 03:53, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:41:51 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-20 03:54, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
    leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County >>>>>>>>>>>>> sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US? >>>>>>>>>>
    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities >>>>>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of >>>>>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year. >>>>>>>>
    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels, >>>>>>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the >>>>>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And >>>>>>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug >>>>>>> cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the >>>>>> country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?


    Laughter!

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how >>>>> they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.

    No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures >>>> automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.


    You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.

    Duh.

    If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call
    the AP to correct them.

    Laughter!


    AP didn't say a word about seizures and how they relate to how much
    contraband got into the country, doofus. When it comes to seizures,
    you're thinking about the link you provided (now snipped; imagine that!) >>from Mexico News Daily.

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/

    You are correct and I erred in attributing that to the AP. Oddly, now
    your theory is that I deliberately snipped an article that supports my position?

    Laughter!

    You snipped it because it presented two contradictory statements about
    what represents success in seizures.



    And the fact that they draw erroneous conclusions by assuming a
    correlation without proof really isn't my problem.

    If you have an issue with their conclusion go talk to them. Be sure
    to let us know what they say about your opinion.

    They drew no such conclusion.




    But let's put back the situation you snipped:

    If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country...

    The word you're looking for is "fewer".

    Play grammar games!



    ...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more
    ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?

    It may or may not but since we're discussing drugs in this thread, I
    don't care.
    I can see why you want to run away to grammar games.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Aug 22 06:55:37 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:16:46 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-21 03:53, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:41:51 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-20 03:54, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a
    leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.

    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US? >>>>>>>>>>>
    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities >>>>>>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of >>>>>>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.

    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
    and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the >>>>>>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And >>>>>>>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug >>>>>>>> cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the >>>>>>> country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?


    Laughter!

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how >>>>>> they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.

    No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures >>>>> automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.


    You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.

    Duh.

    If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call
    the AP to correct them.

    Laughter!


    AP didn't say a word about seizures and how they relate to how much
    contraband got into the country, doofus. When it comes to seizures,
    you're thinking about the link you provided (now snipped; imagine that!) >>>from Mexico News Daily.

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/

    You are correct and I erred in attributing that to the AP. Oddly, now
    your theory is that I deliberately snipped an article that supports my
    position?

    Laughter!

    You snipped it because it presented two contradictory statements about
    what represents success in seizures.


    Laughter?

    I was the one who provided both side citations.

    How exactly are they contradictory?



    And the fact that they draw erroneous conclusions by assuming a
    correlation without proof really isn't my problem.

    If you have an issue with their conclusion go talk to them. Be sure
    to let us know what they say about your opinion.

    They drew no such conclusion.

    Laughter!

    You just said they did.

    You're going to need to put some coherent thoughts together.





    But let's put back the situation you snipped:

    If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country...

    The word you're looking for is "fewer".

    Play grammar games!


    Hey, if you want to sound like an uneducated dolt, that's your call.




    ...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more
    ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?

    It may or may not but since we're discussing drugs in this thread, I
    don't care.
    I can see why you want to run away to grammar games.

    Laughter!

    You're such a lightweight...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to NoBody on Sat Aug 23 08:48:17 2025
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, can.politics, alt.politics.liberalism
    XPost: alt.politics.democrats, alt.politics.usa.republican

    On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 06:55:37 -0400, NoBody <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:16:46 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-21 03:53, NoBody wrote:
    On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:41:51 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-20 03:54, NoBody wrote:
    On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
    On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
    On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
    WASHINGTON (AP) � Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
    United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
    networks smuggling drugs across the border.

    Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael Gonz�lez Valencia, a
    leader of �Los Cuinis,� a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
    Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
    wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
    sheriff�s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
    Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b

    And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
    destruction from drugs.

    They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
    the Epstein files.

    Can you address to the topic please?

    Sure.

    This was political theatre.

    I'll ask you a question:

    Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US? >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Yes or no.

    Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:

    "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities >>>>>>>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of >>>>>>>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.

    Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
    and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
    country by how much is seized at the borders.

    Laughter!

    How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in. And >>>>>>>>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug >>>>>>>>> cartel heads....


    If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the >>>>>>>> country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?


    Laughter!

    Assumes facts not in evidence. You'd best get to work showing us how >>>>>>> they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.

    No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures >>>>>> automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.


    You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.

    Duh.

    If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call >>>>> the AP to correct them.

    Laughter!


    AP didn't say a word about seizures and how they relate to how much
    contraband got into the country, doofus. When it comes to seizures,
    you're thinking about the link you provided (now snipped; imagine that!) >>>>from Mexico News Daily.

    https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/

    You are correct and I erred in attributing that to the AP. Oddly, now
    your theory is that I deliberately snipped an article that supports my
    position?

    Laughter!

    You snipped it because it presented two contradictory statements about
    what represents success in seizures.


    Laughter?

    I was the one who provided both side citations.

    How exactly are they contradictory?



    And the fact that they draw erroneous conclusions by assuming a
    correlation without proof really isn't my problem.

    If you have an issue with their conclusion go talk to them. Be sure
    to let us know what they say about your opinion.

    They drew no such conclusion.

    Laughter!

    You just said they did.

    You're going to need to put some coherent thoughts together.





    But let's put back the situation you snipped:

    If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country... >>>
    The word you're looking for is "fewer".

    Play grammar games!


    Hey, if you want to sound like an uneducated dolt, that's your call.




    ...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more
    ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?

    It may or may not but since we're discussing drugs in this thread, I
    don't care.
    I can see why you want to run away to grammar games.

    Laughter!

    You're such a lightweight...


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