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ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

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c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:SJ- [email protected]:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

What laws did the DACAs break?

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

The preceding was brought to you by the
So What If We Jail/Execute Some Innocent People
wing of the GOP.

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Lovin' the brutality they're showing.

Can't wait for them to start using it on locals.

Good to see the government doing it's job.

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Mitchell Holman wrote:

The preceding was brought to you by the
So What If We Jail/Execute Some Innocent People
wing of the GOP.

Once Trump is gone the next Democrat POTUS is going to have a hayday on
the rightist dirtbags. They'll wish they were never birthed by that cow
they call mother.

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On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

I agree with that.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Agree.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

Extreme measures are needed at this point.
It's very sad, but it's true because it's the only
way to get things back on track and protect the citizens
of the USA.

The 4 years of Biden's border was nothing less than an
invasion.



--
pothead

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Then our choices make us."
-- Anne Frank

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On 2025-08-01 09:18, pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

I agree with that.

And LEGALLY, the state needs to PROVE that someone is in the US "without
proper procedure and paperwork".

It's called: "due process".

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Agree.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

Extreme measures are needed at this point.
It's very sad, but it's true because it's the only
way to get things back on track and protect the citizens
of the USA.

The 4 years of Biden's border was nothing less than an
invasion.

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On 8/1/25 12:18 PM, pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Tuff titty. Millions of illegals - the 'optics'
were NEVER gonna be appealing.

Don't blame Trump - blame JOE for CREATING
the big problem.

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c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:2E- [email protected]:

On 8/1/25 12:18 PM, pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Tuff titty. Millions of illegals - the 'optics'
were NEVER gonna be appealing.

Don't blame Trump - blame JOE for CREATING
the big problem.

In all things Blame Biden First.

If Trump can blame Biden for appointing
Fed Chair Powell and get you to believe it
then anything is possible.

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On 2025-08-02 00:19, c186282 wrote:

On 8/1/25 12:18 PM, pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

  Tuff titty. Millions of illegals - the 'optics'
  were NEVER gonna be appealing.

  Don't blame Trump - blame JOE for CREATING
  the big problem.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your mock outrage...

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"Lee" <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

I agree with that.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Agree.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

Extreme measures are needed at this point.
It's very sad, but it's true because it's the only
way to get things back on track and protect the citizens
of the USA.

The 4 years of Biden's border was nothing less than an
invasion.

So you are admitting the Trump
Wall was a failure. When do we
get our money back?

No MAGA will ever admit any failing
by their God-In-The-Flesh Trump.

Trump himself said he could murder
someone on Fifth Avenue in cold blood
and his faithful would still support
him.

TRump should end the Epstein
debate releasing all the files, admit
his history of raping young girls,
remark how much fun it was and move
one. No one will prosecute him, no
one will indict him. The Supreme
Court will declare him above the
law and issue will go away.

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Mitchell Holman wrote:

c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:2E- [email protected]:

On 8/1/25 12:18 PM, pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Tuff titty. Millions of illegals - the 'optics'
were NEVER gonna be appealing.

Don't blame Trump - blame JOE for CREATING
the big problem.

In all things Blame Biden First.

If Trump can blame Biden for appointing
Fed Chair Powell and get you to believe it
then anything is possible.

Two plus two equals twenty-two.

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On 2025-08-02, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:

pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

I agree with that.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Agree.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

Extreme measures are needed at this point.
It's very sad, but it's true because it's the only
way to get things back on track and protect the citizens
of the USA.

The 4 years of Biden's border was nothing less than an
invasion.

So you are admitting the Trump
Wall was a failure. When do we
get our money back?

Addressed many times before.
Get a new topic.

Point is:

1. Biden couldn't solve the border issue without legislation etc.
2. Trump solved in like 6 weeks or so.

Move on.
You can't win this one.





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Then our choices make us."
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pothead <[email protected]> wrote in news:106m79d$1b3p1$1@dont-
email.me:

On 2025-08-02, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:

pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

I agree with that.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Agree.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

Extreme measures are needed at this point.
It's very sad, but it's true because it's the only
way to get things back on track and protect the citizens
of the USA.

The 4 years of Biden's border was nothing less than an
invasion.

So you are admitting the Trump
Wall was a failure. When do we
get our money back?

Addressed many times before.
Get a new topic.

Actually that is a good question.

Trump poured billions into the wall,
he bragged that he completely the wall, so
your rant about immigration under Biden is
an admission that TRUMP FAILED.


"I did finish the wall. I built a wall,"
Donald Trump, May 9 2003
https://tinyurl.com/mrxxdw6t

Point is:

1. Biden couldn't solve the border issue without legislation etc.
2. Trump solved in like 6 weeks or so.

Only TRump can reduce border crossings.

Opps.


Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border
have fallen sharply in 2024
Oct 1 2024 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/01/migrant-encounters-at- u-s-mexico-border-have-fallen-sharply-in-2024/

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Mitchell Holman wrote:

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

Technically you are an ALLEGED criminal until convicted. Conviction
requires due process, so this bullshit does not excuse violating the
Bill of Right.

The 4 years of Biden's border was nothing less than an
invasion.

Biden was obeying the asylum law.

1. Biden couldn't solve the border issue without legislation etc.
2. Trump solved in like 6 weeks or so.

Only TRump can reduce border crossings.

Opps.

Because idjt is violating asylum law.

Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border
have fallen sharply in 2024
Oct 1 2024

Republicans refused to amend asylum law to give Biden better control.

In the end Biden ignored asylum law.

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Mitchell Holman wrote:

c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:SJ- [email protected]:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

What laws did the DACAs break?

None.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

The preceding was brought to you by the
So What If We Jail/Execute Some Innocent People
wing of the GOP.

jawohl!

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pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Technically, if you're in the US without proper
procedure and paperwork you're a CRIMINAL and
may indeed be deported.

I agree with that.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Agree.

You really believe that? They're grabbing anyone
brown.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

Extreme measures are needed at this point.

Why?

It's very sad, but it's true because it's the only
way to get things back on track and protect the citizens
of the USA.

Are they "poisoning the blood"?

The 4 years of Biden's border was nothing less than an
invasion.

Biden deported MORE than the convicted FELON
currently in the White House, you hypocrite
magat

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36e41dx425o
US deportations under Biden surpass Trump's record
20 December 2024


You were saying? Oh, and chew on this while
you're at it


https://www.zmescience.com/science/news-science/immigrants-commit-fewer-crimes/

Since the 1960s, US-born citizens are twice
as likely to be incarcerated as immigrants.

New research spanning 150 years of U.S.
history provides a startling answer:
immigrants are consistently less likely to
commit crimes than their US-born peers.

Researchers led by Stanford economist Ran
Abramitzky analyzed incarceration rates of
immigrant and US-born men aged 18 to 40 —
the demographic most likely to be imprisoned.
Their dataset, which spans 1870 to 2019, is
the most comprehensive examination of its
kind. It pulls from decennial censuses,
large census samples, and the American
Community Survey.

The findings are clear. From 1870 to 1960,
incarceration rates among immigrants and
US-born citizens were similar. But starting
in the 1960s, a dramatic divergence emerged.
By 2019, US-born men were incarcerated at
rates nearly double those of immigrants —
approximately 3,000 per 100,000 compared to
fewer than 1,500 per 100,000 for immigrants.

Whether from Europe, Mexico, China, or
Central America, immigrants consistently
exhibit lower incarceration rates than
US-born men. This trend holds even when
comparing immigrants to US-born white men,
among whom incarceration rates have
historically been lower than other
demographic groups.

“The data show exactly the opposite [of
popular assumptions]: throughout American
history, immigrants have consistently had
similar or lower incarceration rates than
US-born citizens,” the researchers wrote.


https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aeri.20230459
Law-Abiding Immigrants: The Incarceration Gap
between Immigrants and the US-Born, 1870–2020

Abstract
We provide the first nationally representative
long-run series (1870–2020) of incarceration
rates for immigrants and the US-born. As a
group, immigrants have had lower incarceration
rates than the US-born for 150 years. Moreover,
relative to the US-born, immigrants'
incarceration rates have declined since 1960:
immigrants today are 60 percent less likely to
be incarcerated (30 percent relative to US-born
Whites). This relative decline occurred among
immigrants from all regions and cannot be
explained by changes in observable
characteristics or immigration policy. Instead,
the decline is part of a broader divergence of
outcomes between less-educated immigrants and
their US-born counterparts.

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c186282 wrote:

On 8/1/25 12:18 PM, pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

  Tuff titty. Millions of illegals - the 'optics'
  were NEVER gonna be appealing.

  Don't blame Trump - blame JOE for CREATING
  the big problem.

Problem?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c36e41dx425o
US deportations under Biden surpass Trump's record
20 December 2024

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Gronk wrote:

What laws did the DACAs break?

None.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

The preceding was brought to you by the
So What If We Jail/Execute Some Innocent People
wing of the GOP.

jawohl!

You cannot make an omelet without breaking a few constitutional rights.

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Gronk wrote:

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

Extreme measures are needed at this point.

Why?

We had to destroy Hue in order to save it.

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Gronk wrote:

c186282 wrote:

On 8/1/25 12:18 PM, pothead wrote:

On 2025-08-01, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

ICE doesn't always deport JUST 'serious criminals'.
If it finds 'hispanic looking' people of any ilk
it may arrest them - barely matters if they seem
to be legit US citizens/residents. There have been
mistakes (and no, that ONE guy wasn't one of those).

And I take exception to the methods being use.

Tuff titty. Millions of illegals - the 'optics'
were NEVER gonna be appealing.

Don't blame Trump - blame JOE for CREATING
the big problem.

Problem?

Obeying inconvenient laws.

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"chine.bleu" <[email protected]> wrote in news:1076rb5$15d84$1@dont- email.me:

Gronk wrote:

What laws did the DACAs break?

None.

The dangerous criminals are FIRST on the list,
but not the LAST.

Hey ... did anyone think un-doing years of Biden
idiocy/invasion was always going to be pretty ???
No WAY it can be. Sometimes it's going to be a
blunt instrument - the scale/scope of the problem
ensures that.

The preceding was brought to you by the
So What If We Jail/Execute Some Innocent People
wing of the GOP.

jawohl!

You cannot make an omelet without breaking a few constitutional rights.

And as long on the innocent people
are black or brown who cares?

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