Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he
called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he
called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind
turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
The difference?
Off shore turbines are one.
Maybe it's something else, but still.
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he
called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind
turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
The difference?
Off shore turbines are one.
Maybe it's something else, but still.
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in news:1066jno$37grn$2@dont-
email.me:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he
called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind
turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
The difference?
Off shore turbines are one.
Maybe it's something else, but still.
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
Heaven forbid.
Ever seen a strip mine?
Ever seen what they look like decades later?
pothead <[email protected]> wrote in news:1066jno$37grn$2@dont-
email.me:
<snip>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
The difference?
Off shore turbines are one.
Maybe it's something else, but still.
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
Heaven forbid.
Ever seen a strip mine?
Ever seen what they look like decades later?
...
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
On 7/27/25 21:28, pothead wrote:
...
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
IIRC, a Dutch company has announced a new material to make blades out of instead of fiberglass, which makes them nearly 100% recyclable.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
There's a lot more hurricanes down in the Gulf of Mexico, where there's literal fields of far uglier (& dirtier) oil wells.
-hh
On 2025-07-28, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/27/25 21:28, pothead wrote:Leave it to the Dutch.
...
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
IIRC, a Dutch company has announced a new material to make blades out of
instead of fiberglass, which makes them nearly 100% recyclable.
They do seem to come up with some unique solutions.
This will help.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
There's a lot more hurricanes down in the Gulf of Mexico, where there's
literal fields of far uglier (& dirtier) oil wells.
-hh
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
Same for solar panels which can be incorporated into the architecture soBut keep the subsidies for big oil, right?
less of an eyesore.
Again, let the market decide.
On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/27/25 21:28, pothead wrote:Leave it to the Dutch.
...
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
IIRC, a Dutch company has announced a new material to make blades out of >>> instead of fiberglass, which makes them nearly 100% recyclable.
They do seem to come up with some unique solutions.
This will help.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
There's a lot more hurricanes down in the Gulf of Mexico, where there's
literal fields of far uglier (& dirtier) oil wells.
-hh
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
And like every good little MAGA, as long as it's not a problem for you...
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
Does the same go for oil wells...
...or is that "obvious" that you have to drill where the oil is...
...just like windmills need to be built where the wind is!
Same for solar panels which can be incorporated into the architecture soBut keep the subsidies for big oil, right?
less of an eyesore.
Again, let the market decide.
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/27/25 21:28, pothead wrote:Leave it to the Dutch.
...
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
IIRC, a Dutch company has announced a new material to make blades out of >>>> instead of fiberglass, which makes them nearly 100% recyclable.
They do seem to come up with some unique solutions.
This will help.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart. >>>>> Plus they look ugly.
There's a lot more hurricanes down in the Gulf of Mexico, where there's >>>> literal fields of far uglier (& dirtier) oil wells.
-hh
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
And like every good little MAGA, as long as it's not a problem for you...
I am far from a MAGA person which is why you libbys are unable to
deal with me.
It seems ya'll aren't used to debating with people who can think for themselves.
It seems I have some company. <https://nypost.com/2025/07/17/us-news/new-york-halts-offshore-wind-power-lines-citing-trump-opposition/>
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
Does the same go for oil wells...
Do you live next to an oil well?
Poor choice of location on your part.
Oil is produced 24x7 and doesn't depend upon the wind to keep
producing.
...or is that "obvious" that you have to drill where the oil is...
Really?
Wow, I never would have thought of that.
Grasping at straws again?
...just like windmills need to be built where the wind is!
But keep the subsidies for oil, right?
Same for solar panels which can be incorporated into the architecture so >>> less of an eyesore.But keep the subsidies for big oil, right?
Again, let the market decide.
Big oil runs the world.
At least for now.
Both can co-exist.
Let the market decide.
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
On 2025-07-28 13:40, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:I am far from a MAGA person which is why you libbys are unable to
On 2025-07-28, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/27/25 21:28, pothead wrote:Leave it to the Dutch.
...
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
IIRC, a Dutch company has announced a new material to make blades out of >>>>> instead of fiberglass, which makes them nearly 100% recyclable.
They do seem to come up with some unique solutions.
This will help.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart. >>>>>> Plus they look ugly.
There's a lot more hurricanes down in the Gulf of Mexico, where there's >>>>> literal fields of far uglier (& dirtier) oil wells.
-hh
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
And like every good little MAGA, as long as it's not a problem for you... >>
deal with me.
In what particulars are you "far from a MAGA person"?
Name a single position of yours that shows that.
It seems ya'll aren't used to debating with people who can think for
themselves.
It seems I have some company.
<https://nypost.com/2025/07/17/us-news/new-york-halts-offshore-wind-power-lines-citing-trump-opposition/>
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
Does the same go for oil wells...
Do you live next to an oil well?
Poor choice of location on your part.
Oil is produced 24x7 and doesn't depend upon the wind to keep
producing.
...or is that "obvious" that you have to drill where the oil is...
Really?
Wow, I never would have thought of that.
Grasping at straws again?
...just like windmills need to be built where the wind is!
Left out your answer to this part...
But keep the subsidies for oil, right?
Same for solar panels which can be incorporated into the architecture so >>>> less of an eyesore.But keep the subsidies for big oil, right?
Again, let the market decide.
Big oil runs the world.
At least for now.
Both can co-exist.
Let the market decide.
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-28 13:40, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:I am far from a MAGA person which is why you libbys are unable to
On 2025-07-28, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/27/25 21:28, pothead wrote:Leave it to the Dutch.
...
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
IIRC, a Dutch company has announced a new material to make blades out of >>>>>> instead of fiberglass, which makes them nearly 100% recyclable.
They do seem to come up with some unique solutions.
This will help.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart. >>>>>>> Plus they look ugly.
There's a lot more hurricanes down in the Gulf of Mexico, where there's >>>>>> literal fields of far uglier (& dirtier) oil wells.
-hh
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
And like every good little MAGA, as long as it's not a problem for you... >>>
deal with me.
In what particulars are you "far from a MAGA person"?
Name a single position of yours that shows that.
1. Meddling with Powell in order to dictate interest rates.
Unless corrupt, let him alone to do his job.
2. Trying to shut down media that disagree with him.
I'm not talking about publicaly funded like NPR but private
media like "The View" etc.
Personal libel, slander, defamation are another issue to be
settled in the courts though.
3. the Epstein saga. If Trump did indeed visit the island then he
is as guilty as the rest of them.
4. His constant juvenile name calling. It was funny 4 years ago but
it's worn out now.
etc..
You won't get a MAGA nut to agree with those points.
There are many more.
It seems ya'll aren't used to debating with people who can think for
themselves.
It seems I have some company.
<https://nypost.com/2025/07/17/us-news/new-york-halts-offshore-wind-power-lines-citing-trump-opposition/>
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
Does the same go for oil wells...
Do you live next to an oil well?
Poor choice of location on your part.
Oil is produced 24x7 and doesn't depend upon the wind to keep
producing.
...or is that "obvious" that you have to drill where the oil is...
Really?
Wow, I never would have thought of that.
Grasping at straws again?
...just like windmills need to be built where the wind is!
Left out your answer to this part...
Which countries are those? It's not actually a long list.
But keep the subsidies for oil, right?
Same for solar panels which can be incorporated into the architecture so >>>>> less of an eyesore.But keep the subsidies for big oil, right?
Again, let the market decide.
Big oil runs the world.
At least for now.
Both can co-exist.
Let the market decide.
Oil is important for the security of the country.
If they reuqire subsidies so be it.
Same for farmers.
It's better than spending the money on programs for countries
who hate us and want us dead.
On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/27/25 21:28, pothead wrote:Leave it to the Dutch.
...
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
IIRC, a Dutch company has announced a new material to make blades out of >>> instead of fiberglass, which makes them nearly 100% recyclable.
They do seem to come up with some unique solutions.
This will help.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
There's a lot more hurricanes down in the Gulf of Mexico, where there's
literal fields of far uglier (& dirtier) oil wells.
-hh
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
And like every good little MAGA, as long as it's not a problem for you...
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
Does the same go for oil wells...
...or is that "obvious" that you have to drill where the oil is...
...just like windmills need to be built where the wind is!
Same for solar panels which can be incorporated into the architecture soBut keep the subsidies for big oil, right?
less of an eyesore.
Again, let the market decide.
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 10:29:17 -0400, -hh wrote:
On 7/28/25 14:14, Alan wrote:
On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:
...
Again, let the market decide.
But keep the subsidies for big oil, right?
This is the kind of partisan thing I've been talking about, pothead.
Well maybe I am not presenting my points clearly.
See below.
You're perfectly ok with government meddling in markets as long as it
only meddles in the markets YOU want meddled with.
Wrong.
First off depending upon the market I have differing opinions.
So for example, I was not against the auto industry bailout as it was implemented.
It saved jobs however as a free trade person I'm mixed on the reasons for the bailouts in the first place which were mainly crappy cars nobody wanted and mismanagement.
In the end though the money was paid back AFAIK.
As for the current discussion of EV vs ICE and subsidies I have no problem either way as long as the other platform is not attacked and restricted by over regulation.
Promoting American made cars or EV or both is not a problem for me as long
as at the same time you don't tell me ICE cars will have major regulations put on them all for the purpose of destroying them and pushing the people to EV.
Same goes for say wind farms vs coal plants.
Let the market decide but don't hamstring one or the other in order to
push an agenda.
Again "free market" or more accurately a fair market.
Ah, good catch: I'd forgotten about how pothead has avoided answering
why its okay for fossil fuels to receive huge government subsidies.
-hh
Still hasn't answered it despite answering Siri's post.
Answered already in different threads but you can see my answer above.
I am a free/fair market person.
Sometimes subsidies are good and sometimes bad.
I have opinions on both and I prefer to not make a blanket statement.
As an aside:
On the one hand, Republicans whine about losing manufacturing jobs.
Otoh, they're deliberately killing them.
They are killing green energy jobs which have produced almost zero for
the working class but lined the pockets of the elite with tons of money.
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:20:36 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-29, chine.bleu wrote:<snip>
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
California banned solar panels in coastal waters after electricity spill >>>>>> off Santa Barbara fouled all the beaches.
:-D :-D :-D
:-D :-D
:-D :-D :-D
Still better to be electrocuted than eaten by a shark! :-D
Another batshit-crazy Republican:
No boats were harmed making this post.
Solar panels are highly toxic.
Windmills cause cancer.
Cancer?
Probably not.
But other ailiments maybe.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4063257/
There is a lot science does not know.
And there is a lot of science that is driven by money and profit.
On 2025-07-30, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-29 17:01, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-29 15:39, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-29 15:17, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:You get that you get the sources when you do that kind of search, right? >>>>>>
On 2025-07-29 14:18, pothead wrote:ChatGPT?
On 2025-07-29, Ken <[email protected]> wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-07-29 10:48, Ken wrote:
Alan wrote:
On 2025-07-28 14:32, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:Which countries are those? It's not actually a long list. >>>>>>>>>>>>
On 2025-07-28 13:40, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-28 10:51, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, -hh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same for farmers.
It's better than spending the money on programs for countries >>>>>>>>>>>>>> who hate us and want us dead.
It does not matter if it is a long list or short list. This country
is in debt to the tune of 36 Trillion dollars. Not a dime should be
sent to someone who is not a friend. Do you donate to organizations
that you dislike??
But you don't mind that Trump's tax cuts for the rich are running up
that debt, so your complaint comes out a little bit bullshit, doesn't it?
So just because someone receives funds that you disagree with, other >>>>>>>>>> wasted funds should continue?? Do you handle your personal finances >>>>>>>>>> that way??
I will close with this: Everyday the polls show the liberal criticism
of Trump to be believed even less. Those of you with TDS should more
carefully choose your issues.
Good post.
I still haven't seen this so called tax benefits for the rich data. >>>>>>>>>
I wouldn't consider no taxes on tips, overtime and additional bonus added
for seniors on SS increased SALT deduction. something the rich are interested in.
ChatGPT: 'Did Trump really eliminate taxes on tips?'
'Final Take: Did Trump “Eliminate Taxes on Tips”?
Not entirely. What changed was:
A limited, temporary federal income tax deduction for up to $25,000 in >>>>>>>> cash tip income.
Still subject to payroll and other taxes, with income-based phase‑outs
and an expiration in 2028.'
So it isn't "no taxes on tips".
ChatGPT: 'Did Trump eliminate tax on overtime?'
ROTFLMAO!
You lose.
Let me demonstrate:
'A limited, temporary federal income tax deduction for up to $25,000 in >>>>>> cash tip income.'
How's the IRS for a source?
'Maximum annual deduction is $25,000'
<https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/one-big-beautiful-bill-act-tax-deductions-for-working-americans-and-seniors>
Good enough?
$25k in tips is a lot of money.
So......
Nope.
There are so many factors involved.
Single vs married vs head of house, medical issues, SALT and a gazillion more.
So having implied that the results from ChatGPT were wrong, you now
shift the goalposts.
No.
I'm saying that a simple prompt like you created does not tell the entire >>> story.
It's far too complex.
And I'm asking you in what particulars was the answer that it provided
inaccurate.
And you're running away just as fast as you can.
Why do you make up lies?
You are implying that the deductions the Trump bill has instituted are somehow not good and along with the other libbys claiming that Trump's BBB benefits the rich and not the middle class.
Your prompt while simplistic does not show the entire picture and while
your specific prompt may be true it doesn't represent all of the variables.
It's like asking Chatgpt how much federal taxes will I pay if IGoalpost shift!
make $200k a year.
It doesn't take into account deductions etc.
So while it may be accurate basically, in real life it's not.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 00:22:36 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:<snip>
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:20:36 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Solar panels are highly toxic.
Windmills cause cancer.
Cancer?
Probably not.
But other ailiments maybe.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4063257/
There is a lot science does not know.
And there is a lot of science that is driven by money and profit.
Solutions to problems often bring their own problems for which
solutions must be found. Antibiotics were a miracle but caused a
problem, overpopulation. The solution for that was fertilizer but
that caused pollution ...
As I wrote in another post ...
If we gave up on new technology every time it created a new problem,
we'd still be shivering in the cave every night complaining, "Ugh!
Finger burn! Fire bad!"
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 17:44:59 -0700, "chine.bleu"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Governor Swill wrote:
This is the kind of partisan thing I've been talking about, pothead.But keep the subsidies for big oil, right?
You're perfectly ok with government meddling in markets as long as it
only meddles in the markets YOU want meddled with.
The Erie Canal was not built by barges, but by the state of New York.
America has long subsidised businesses it has wanted to prosper. Whining >>does not alter history.
Oil subsidies do not do me any good. But if elected legislators decide
it is in the country's interest, this how we choose to spend money.
Early on we had tariffs to subsidise businesses. More recently we found
out a general agreement on reducing tariffs and trade barrier was better >>way to encourage businesses.
Trump's tariffs are a way to subsidize income tax cuts for the
wealthy.
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 20:24:01 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/30/25 08:53, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 17:51:45 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
NIMBY? Quickly followed by, "where's my electricity?"
Yep.
Install them away from populated areas.
Fundamentally less efficient - higher grid losses.
That's why nukes were often built as close as they reasonably can get
away with to major population centers.
I don't have a problem with electricity, do you?
You've also never lived next to a fly ash sludge pond either.
Take a gander some time at the delta in cancer incidence rates.
Backyard redecorated.
<https://wvpublic.org/story/arts-culture/how-appalachia-became-the-site-of-the-largest-industrial-spill-in-u-s-history-and-what-happened-next/>
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he
called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind
turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
The difference?
Off shore turbines are one.
Maybe it's something else, but still.
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 00:25:21 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Backyard redecorated.
<https://wvpublic.org/story/arts-culture/how-appalachia-became-the-site-of-the-largest-industrial-spill-in-u-s-history-and-what-happened-next/>
I've never lived next to a lithium mine either.
Nor a cobalt mine loaded with children doing the work.
We have come a long way in cleaner fossil fuel production than the 1960's.
That spill happened in 2008 and was related to use, not production.
On 2025-07-31, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 20:24:01 -0400, -hh
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/30/25 08:53, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 17:51:45 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
I don't see oil wells from my window or when boating.
If energy companies want to implement wind turbines, install them
in the middle of nowhere.
NIMBY? Quickly followed by, "where's my electricity?"
Yep.
Install them away from populated areas.
Fundamentally less efficient - higher grid losses.
That's why nukes were often built as close as they reasonably can get
away with to major population centers.
I don't have a problem with electricity, do you?
You've also never lived next to a fly ash sludge pond either.
Take a gander some time at the delta in cancer incidence rates.
Backyard redecorated.
<https://wvpublic.org/story/arts-culture/how-appalachia-became-the-site-of-the-largest-industrial-spill-in-u-s-history-and-what-happened-next/>
I've never lived next to a lithium mine either.
Nor a cobalt mine loaded with children doing the work.
We have come a long way in cleaner fossil fuel production than the 1960's.
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:20:36 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-29, chine.bleu wrote:<snip>
Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
chine.bleu wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
California banned solar panels in coastal waters after electricity spill >>>>>> off Santa Barbara fouled all the beaches.
:-D :-D :-D
:-D :-D
:-D :-D :-D
Still better to be electrocuted than eaten by a shark! :-D
Another batshit-crazy Republican:
No boats were harmed making this post.
Solar panels are highly toxic.
Windmills cause cancer.
Cancer?
Probably not.
But other ailiments [sic] maybe.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4063257/
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he
called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind
turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
Really? Evidence? Cite? Article? No?
The difference?
Off shore turbines are one.
https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/new-england-mid-atlantic/marine-life-distress/frequent-questions-offshore-wind-and-whales
"At this point, there is no scientific
evidence that noise resulting from offshore
wind site characterization surveys could
potentially cause whale deaths. There are
no known links between large whale deaths
and ongoing offshore wind activities."
Maybe it's something else, but still.
Also the blades are very expensive to dispose of.
And during hurricanes, which we do get on occaison, they fall apart.
Plus they look ugly.
How can companies recycle wind turbine blades?
Landfilling retired blades isn’t green or sustainable. Companies are working on ways to reuse the giant structures rather than bury them
August 8,2022
…
Cappadona, the CEO of the Environmental Solutions and Services division
of Veolia North America, an energy, water, and waste company, confesses
that he wasn’t much more optimistic when he later received a big can
filled with pieces of a chopped-up blade. Turning the used blades into something a customer would want “was the Rubik’s Cube of recycling,” he says, referring to the challenging 3D puzzle. But the company quickly
came up with a plan for the material that was long considered
unrecyclable. Now, just 2 years later, Veolia runs a program that has
already turned about 2,000 of the giant blades into a valuable commodity—cement.
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 23:35:03 -0600, Gronk <[email protected]d>
wrote:
Gronk wrote:
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he >>>>> called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind >>>>> turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
Really? Evidence? Cite? Article? No?
"Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches
in numbers never seen before. "
Still no evidence...
I've asked him for it too but didn't get any. The windmill killing
whales is from the same delusionary school of consipirakookness that
supports windmills causing cancer and Oswald was a patsy for LBJ's assassination of Kennedy.
On 2025-08-08, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 23:35:03 -0600, Gronk <[email protected]d>
wrote:
Gronk wrote:
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he >>>>>> called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind >>>>>> turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
Really? Evidence? Cite? Article? No?
"Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches
in numbers never seen before. "
Still no evidence...
I've asked him for it too but didn't get any. The windmill killing
whales is from the same delusionary school of consipirakookness that
supports windmills causing cancer and Oswald was a patsy for LBJ's
assassination of Kennedy.
Cancer?
I doubt that but what amount of EMF do these things emit?
On 2025-08-08, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 23:35:03 -0600, Gronk <[email protected]d>
Gronk wrote:
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he >>>>>> called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind >>>>>> turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
Really? Evidence? Cite? Article? No?
"Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches
in numbers never seen before. "
Still no evidence...
I've asked him for it too but didn't get any. The windmill killing
whales is from the same delusionary school of consipirakookness that
supports windmills causing cancer and Oswald was a patsy for LBJ's
assassination of Kennedy.
Cancer?
I doubt that but what amount of EMF do these things emit?
There might be more to the Oswald story than we have been told.
Will we ever know for sure?
Probably not.
Does it matter?
Nope.
I think the turbine situation needs to be studied further though.
As for whale washing up dead in my neck of the woods, the current theory
is there are more whales around these parts than in previous times
because they come here to feed on smaller fish.
More whales = more dead whales due to disease, collisions with boats
and so forth.
That makes the most sense to me because in recent years I have noticed
the tourist boats that cater to whale watching have ramped up in business.
On 2025-08-08, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, 7 Aug 2025 23:35:03 -0600, Gronk <[email protected]d>
Gronk wrote:
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he >>>>>> called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind >>>>>> turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
Really? Evidence? Cite? Article? No?
"Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches
in numbers never seen before. "
Still no evidence...
I've asked him for it too but didn't get any. The windmill killing
whales is from the same delusionary school of consipirakookness that
supports windmills causing cancer and Oswald was a patsy for LBJ's
assassination of Kennedy.
Cancer?
I doubt that but what amount of EMF do these things emit?
There might be more to the Oswald story than we have been told.
Will we ever know for sure?
Probably not.
Does it matter?
Nope.
I think the turbine situation needs to be studied further though.
As for whale washing up dead in my neck of the woods, the current theory
is there are more whales around these parts than in previous times
because they come here to feed on smaller fish.
More whales = more dead whales due to disease, collisions with boats
and so forth.
That makes the most sense to me because in recent years I have noticed
the tourist boats that cater to whale watching have ramped up in business.
I dunno except I find the turbines ugly looking and all things considered what are the actual numbers regarding cost, maintenance, life span, environmental considerations
vs return?
pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-28, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
Doing an interview in Scotland about how "bad" wind turbines are (he
called them "windmills", but never mind)...
...where they quite successfully get 40% of their electricity from wind
turbines.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pa-EvdMqA>
They are horrible.
Where I live whales are washing up on the beaches in numbers never
seen before.
Really? Evidence? Cite? Article? No?
The difference?
Off shore turbines are one.
"At this point, there is no scientific
evidence that noise resulting from offshore
wind site characterization surveys could
potentially cause whale deaths. There are
no known links between large whale deaths
and ongoing offshore wind activities."
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