On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 22:24:14 -0400, Alan says...
"The DHS views the situation differently. In a statement to
NBC, a department spokesperson said that ?Garcia assaulted and
verbally harassed a federal agent and that he was subdued and
arrested for the alleged assault?."
This is yet another reason Lying Lee has zero credibility.
I knew it. This is why I don't even BOTHER to fact check him. He
lies by omission EVERY TIME he posts.
So because a DHS spokesperson said it, it must be true?
Yes. And I'd believe them LONG before I'll believe ANYTHING coming
from the left-wing, Drag-Queen-loving media, ESPECIALLY the likes of
The Guardian, who are nothing but a tabloid.
On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:08:43 -0400, Alan says...
So, he just stood there, not moving, not touching an ICE agents, not
refusing to move out of the way?
Turns out... NO, he did not.
https://i.imgur.com/LLzcqBi.mp4
Got anyone else's video, showing the whole incident?
Yeah.... thought so.
Have you got anything that contradicts them?
https://i.imgur.com/LLzcqBi.mp4
He admitted he laid hands on an ICE officer.
THAT gets you a free ride in an ICE vehicle.Job Garcia is a US citizen...
He's lucky they didn't drive him to the border.
On 2025-07-09 00:17, AlleyCat wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:08:43 -0400, Alan says...
So, he just stood there, not moving, not touching an ICE agents, not
refusing to move out of the way?
Turns out... NO, he did not.
https://i.imgur.com/LLzcqBi.mp4
Someone pushed him and he pushed that person's hands off him.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 00:48:50 -0400, Alan says...Show me the video you claim to have seen.
So because a DHS spokesperson said it, it must be true?
Yes. And I'd believe them LONG before I'll believe ANYTHING coming
from the left-wing, Drag-Queen-loving media, ESPECIALLY the likes of
The Guardian, who are nothing but a tabloid.
But less than a year ago you wouldn't have believed them...
I don't know that.
YOU don't know that.
...right?
Wrong.
I'd wait to see video, as usual... rich boy.
And now that I've seen it, I believe DHS.
On Thu, 10 Jul 2025 19:09:53 -0400, Alan says...Your lack of answer means you can't.
And now that I've seen it, I believe DHS.
Show me the video you claim to have seen.
Look it up yourself, lazy Lakehouse-rich boy.
On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:10:42 -0400, Alan says...
"The DHS views the situation differently. In a statement to NBC,
a department spokesperson said that ?Garcia assaulted and
verbally harassed a federal agent and that he was subdued and
arrested for the alleged assault?."
This is yet another reason Lying Lee has zero credibility.
And you always believe what you're told by agents of the federal
government, right?
And you always believe what you're told by the media, right?
Got any video showing the alleged "assault"?
DO you?
Yeah.... thought so.
THIS is why he was detained.
You do not, under ANY circumstances, put your hands on a police or
ICE official. That IS grounds for detainment.
Comply or else. If people understood that, instead of trying to get
away with anything they've done, there'd be fewer instances of this
type of thing happening.
What you won't see, especially in the far-left-progressive Drag-
Queen-loving media, is Job Garcia's actions. After watching several
videos, I don't think anyone was recording Garcia... only Garcia
recording ICE officers.
https://i.imgur.com/LLzcqBi.mp4
He ADMITS it that he hit an officer. THAT, in and of itself, gets
you a ride.
On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 00:52:54 -0400, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing wrong?
On 2025-07-09 00:17, AlleyCat wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:08:43 -0400, Alan says...
So, he just stood there, not moving, not touching an ICE agents, not >>>>> refusing to move out of the way?
Turns out... NO, he did not.
https://i.imgur.com/LLzcqBi.mp4
Someone pushed him and he pushed that person's hands off him.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail.
One can not interfere in an official activity.
On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 00:52:54 -0400, Alan says...
On 2025-07-09 00:17, AlleyCat wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:08:43 -0400, Alan says...
So, he just stood there, not moving, not touching an ICE
agents, not refusing to move out of the way?
Turns out... NO, he did not.
https://i.imgur.com/LLzcqBi.mp4
Someone pushed him and he pushed that person's hands off him.
If an officer puts hands on someone, say, to handcuff him, and he
pushes the officer's hands away?
That's resisting.
Byee!
Cops and ICE officers have the right to "control" situations, by
detaining people who might be a part of an investigation, or in this
case, someone who has gotten in the way of an officer's duties OR
verbally berated them from a NOT-so-distant distance.
Watch Garcia's video. He's clearly too close to not be in the way.
Of course, we can't see what HE did to get himself put down and
detained, because no one else was there. If ICE had body cams, maybe
we'll see what he did later, on a NOT left-wing news show.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
Is that the topic?
Nope.
Keep the minutiae whining to yourself.
Got anyone else's video, showing the whole incident?
Yeah.... thought so.
Have you got anything that contradicts them?
https://i.imgur.com/LLzcqBi.mp4
He admitted he laid hands on an ICE officer.
Nope. He admitted that someone (presumably an ICE officer) laid
hands on him and he reacted in a very normal way.
It is NOT "normal" for you to resist an officer's actions. Once he
slapped the officer's hands away, that became resisting arrest or
detainment.
On 2025-07-09 04:17, NoBody wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 00:52:54 -0400, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing
On 2025-07-09 00:17, AlleyCat wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2025 10:08:43 -0400, Alan says...
So, he just stood there, not moving, not touching an ICE agents, not >>>>>> refusing to move out of the way?
Turns out... NO, he did not.
https://i.imgur.com/LLzcqBi.mp4
Someone pushed him and he pushed that person's hands off him.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail.
One can not interfere in an official activity.
wrong?
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to
jail. One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done
nothing wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed
him?
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can
see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and
interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of
the way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic
pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a
raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they "fight
back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE
epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video. He was
just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make
an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... youRun away, Phil!
never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in the
way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the
back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the
EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they get
pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit,
they arrest.
PLONK!
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs.� If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail.
One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing
wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed him?
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of the
way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they
"fight back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video.
He was just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in
the way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they
get pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit, they arrest.
PLONK!
On 2025-07-25 06:12, AlleyCat wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to
jail. One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done
nothing wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed
him?
"Randomly"? No. They picked him because he was recording them.
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can
see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
So they first have to ask him to get back.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and
interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of
the way.
Not until you been asked to move back.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic
pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a
raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they "fight
back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE
epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video. He was
just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make
an arrest.
You're allowed to shout "anti-ICE epithets".
Run away, Phil!
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you
never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in the
way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the
back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the
EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they get
pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit,
they arrest.
PLONK!
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:12:25 -0500, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail. >>>>> One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing
wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed him?
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of the
way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they
"fight back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video.
He was just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in
the way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they
get pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit, they arrest.
PLONK!
Amazing that the libs are still defending this guy.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:03:57 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-25 06:12, AlleyCat wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to
jail. One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done
nothing wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed
him?
"Randomly"? No. They picked him because he was recording them.
Evidence?
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can
see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
So they first have to ask him to get back.
Post that regulation.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and
interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of
the way.
Not until you been asked to move back.
Waiting.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic
pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a
raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they "fight
back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE
epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video. He was
just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make
an arrest.
You're allowed to shout "anti-ICE epithets".
And if you're but a step away from the officers engaged in arrests for
them to assume you're a threat.
Run away, Phil!
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you
never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in the
way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the
back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the
EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they get
pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit,
they arrest.
PLONK!
From YOU? I think you'd have to pose an actual threat first. Clearly
you were blocked because of stupidity like the above.
On 2025-07-26 05:55, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:12:25 -0500, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs.� If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail. >>>>>> One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing >>>>> wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed him? >>>
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of the
way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they
"fight back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video.
He was just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in
the way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they
get pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit, they arrest.
PLONK!
Amazing that the libs are still defending this guy.
The guy who was released without any charge laid against him?
You do remember the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", right?
On 2025-07-26 05:57, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:03:57 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-25 06:12, AlleyCat wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to
jail. One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done
nothing wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed
him?
"Randomly"? No. They picked him because he was recording them.
Evidence?
There is literally no evidence that he was doing anything else.
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can
see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
So they first have to ask him to get back.
Post that regulation.
So if you're standing at some random distance from a policing
intervention, you think the police can just attack YOU?
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and
interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of
the way.
Not until you been asked to move back.
Waiting.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic
pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a
raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they "fight
back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE
epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video. He was
just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make
an arrest.
You're allowed to shout "anti-ICE epithets".
And if you're but a step away from the officers engaged in arrests for
them to assume you're a threat.
He wasn't "but a step away". He was several steps away.
Run away, Phil!
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you
never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in the
way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the
back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the
EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they get
pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit,
they arrest.
PLONK!
From YOU? I think you'd have to pose an actual threat first. Clearly
you were blocked because of stupidity like the above.
So you're admitting that you post both as AlleyCat and as NoBody, are you?
And FYI, he's lying about blocking me.
On 2025-07-26 05:55, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:12:25 -0500, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs.� If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail. >>>>> One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing >>>> wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed him? >>
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of the
way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they
"fight back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video.
He was just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in
the way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they
get pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit, they arrest.
PLONK!
Amazing that the libs are still defending this guy.
The guy who was released without any charge laid against him?
You do remember the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", right?
On 2025-07-26 05:57, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:03:57 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-25 06:12, AlleyCat wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to
jail. One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done
nothing wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed
him?
"Randomly"? No. They picked him because he was recording them.
Evidence?
There is literally no evidence that he was doing anything else.
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can
see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
So they first have to ask him to get back.
Post that regulation.
So if you're standing at some random distance from a policing
intervention, you think the police can just attack YOU?
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and
interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of
the way.
Not until you been asked to move back.
Waiting.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic
pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a
raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they "fight
back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE
epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video. He was
just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make
an arrest.
You're allowed to shout "anti-ICE epithets".
And if you're but a step away from the officers engaged in arrests for
them to assume you're a threat.
He wasn't "but a step away". He was several steps away.
Run away, Phil!
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you
never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in the
way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the
back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the
EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they get
pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit,
they arrest.
PLONK!
From YOU? I think you'd have to pose an actual threat first. Clearly
you were blocked because of stupidity like the above.
So you're admitting that you post both as AlleyCat and as NoBody, are you?
And FYI, he's lying about blocking me.
In article <1062uab$1fsae$[email protected]>, nuh-
[email protected] says...
On 2025-07-26 05:55, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:12:25 -0500, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail. >> >>>>> One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing >> >>>> wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed him? >> >>
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of the
way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they
"fight back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video.
He was just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in
the way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they
get pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit, they arrest.
PLONK!
Amazing that the libs are still defending this guy.
The guy who was released without any charge laid against him?
You do remember the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", right?
The left sure didn't when it came to the Jan 6th
offenders.
In article <1062u8v$1fsae$[email protected]>, nuh-
[email protected] says...
On 2025-07-26 05:57, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:03:57 -0700, Alan <[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-25 06:12, AlleyCat wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to >>>>>>>> jail. One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done
nothing wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed
him?
"Randomly"? No. They picked him because he was recording them.
Evidence?
There is literally no evidence that he was doing anything else.
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can >>>>> see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
So they first have to ask him to get back.
Post that regulation.
So if you're standing at some random distance from a policing
intervention, you think the police can just attack YOU?
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and
interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of
the way.
Not until you been asked to move back.
Waiting.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic
pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a
raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they "fight
back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE >>>>> epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video. He was >>>>> just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make
an arrest.
You're allowed to shout "anti-ICE epithets".
And if you're but a step away from the officers engaged in arrests for
them to assume you're a threat.
He wasn't "but a step away". He was several steps away.
Run away, Phil!
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you >>>>> never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in the
way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the >>>>> back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the
EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they get
pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit,
they arrest.
PLONK!
From YOU? I think you'd have to pose an actual threat first. Clearly >>> you were blocked because of stupidity like the above.
So you're admitting that you post both as AlleyCat and as NoBody, are you? >>
And FYI, he's lying about blocking me.
You support criminals.
In article <1062uab$1fsae$[email protected]>, nuh-
[email protected] says...
On 2025-07-26 05:55, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:12:25 -0500, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail. >>>>>>> One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing >>>>>> wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed him? >>>>
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of the
way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they
"fight back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia.
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video.
He was just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in
the way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they
get pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit, they arrest.
PLONK!
Amazing that the libs are still defending this guy.
The guy who was released without any charge laid against him?
You do remember the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", right?
The left sure didn't when it came to the Jan 6th
offenders.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
The left sure didn't when it came to the Jan 6th
offenders.
Really?
Which person convicted in that insurrection didn't get his or her day in court?
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 12:09:06 -0700, Alan says...
The left sure didn't when it came to the Jan 6th
offenders.
Really?
Which person convicted in that insurrection didn't get his or her day in
court?
Many were NOT afforded a speedy trial or even a "first appearance".
They were thrown in jail and had to wait more than a "normal" amount of time, to even be charged.
And they ignored the 6th amendment by locking the accused away forYet denial of due process is just fine when used against immigrants or Democrats.
extended periods of time without trial and some in very
harsh conditions.
<https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/an-egregious-denial-of-due-process-for-jan-6-protesters/>
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 17:47:31 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-27, Skeeter OG <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <1062uab$1fsae$[email protected]>, nuh-
[email protected] says...
The left sure didn't when it came to the Jan 6th
On 2025-07-26 05:55, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:12:25 -0500, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail.
One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing >>>> >>>> wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed him?
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of the
way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they
"fight back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia. >>>> >>
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video.
He was just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in
the way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they
get pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit, they arrest.
PLONK!
Amazing that the libs are still defending this guy.
The guy who was released without any charge laid against him?
You do remember the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", right? >>>
offenders.
And they ignored the 6th amendment by locking the accused away for
extended periods of time without trial and some in very
harsh conditions.
<https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/an-egregious-denial-of-due-process-for-jan-6-protesters/>
Yet denial of due process is just fine when used against immigrants or Democrats.
It is all coming out however the republicans are weak so I doubt we will see anything
beyond endless, costly hearings.
I do hope I am wrong though.
Oh, and btw, the feds have been meticulous about "due process" and
following the rules regarding all those Antifa and FBI plants who
perpetrated Jan 6. /s
On 2025-07-28, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 17:47:31 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-27, Skeeter OG <[email protected]> wrote:
In article <1062uab$1fsae$[email protected]>, nuh-
[email protected] says...
The left sure didn't when it came to the Jan 6th
On 2025-07-26 05:55, NoBody wrote:
On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 08:12:25 -0500, AlleyCat <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>
On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 18:37:51 -0700, Alan says...
Now you're splitting hairs. If he pushed a cop, he's going to jail.
One can not interfere in an official activity.
So any time he wants, a cop can push you; even if you've done nothing >>>>>>>>> wrong?
So the ICE agent just randomly picked him out of a crowd and pushed him?
Gotcha.
Garcia DID do something wrong.
He was by himself and WAY too close to NOT being in the way. You can see that in HIS video, dumb fucking Lakehouse Rich boy.
When you're in the middle of ICE agents doing their job and interfering WITH that job, you ARE subject to being pushed out of the
way.
Go ahead... deny that you've never seen this, you fucking pedantic pansy-ass pussy faggot.
Look up videos of people getting in the way of ICE agents during a raid or an arrest and pushing people out of the way. If they
"fight back" or strike an agent, they get arrested... same as Garcia. >>>>>>>
Here's another one of your bullshit word games.
How is that any evidence that he INITIATED the encounter?
WHO said that he "initiated the encounter"? He was shouting anti-ICE epithets and getting in the way. You can see it in HIS video.
He was just a step away from the ICE agents while they were trying to make an arrest.
The ICE agents didn't know Garcia. He could have had a weapon... you never know. Better to be safe and take down someone getting in
the way AND striking law enforcement, than to get shot or stabbed in the back.
ALL cops do this. Why is this any different? I'm sure they do the EXACT same thing in liberal Cangaydia. Someone interferes, they
get pushed out of the way, and if that doesn't work or if they get hit, they arrest.
PLONK!
Amazing that the libs are still defending this guy.
The guy who was released without any charge laid against him?
You do remember the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", right? >>>>
offenders.
And they ignored the 6th amendment by locking the accused away for
extended periods of time without trial and some in very
harsh conditions.
<https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/an-egregious-denial-of-due-process-for-jan-6-protesters/>
Yet denial of due process is just fine when used against immigrants or
Democrats.
Illegals yes.
Come back legally next time.
Democrats in general?
Of course not.
It is all coming out however the republicans are weak so I doubt we will see anything
beyond endless, costly hearings.
I do hope I am wrong though.
Oh, and btw, the feds have been meticulous about "due process" and
following the rules regarding all those Antifa and FBI plants who
perpetrated Jan 6. /s
I've made my position clear on Jan 6th many times before.
The truth needs to come out. And it eventually will.\
On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/30/25 10:41, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:07:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:01:28 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Yet denial of due process is just fine when used against immigrants or >>>>>>>> Democrats.
Illegals yes.
Come back legally next time.
Illegals are covered under the 14th amendment.
This is an invasion we are dealing with and I prefer to protect the
legal citizens of the US over criminals who jumped the border.
<https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/07/28/200-illegal-alien-child-sex-offenders-arrested-in-houston-in-six-months/>
All I'm insisting on is due process being followed. Arbitrary arrest
and deportation are illegal.
Period.
All I am insisting on is to enter the country legally and apply
legally for citizenship.
Many have ... and CBP is grabbing them while they're still undergoing
those due process legal processes. Is this acceptable to you?
-hh
It depends.
Does the person in question have some kind of criminal background?
If not, let the hearing already in progress proceed.
If yes, back to the country of origin.
That being said, this may come as a surprise to you but I voted for Trump based upon him closing the border which he effectively has done and deporting illegals starting with the dangerous ones first which AFAIK he is doing however there are too many casualties of war, IOW families, hard working people with no criminal history and such being caught up in the raids.
I do not support that which is why my opinion has always been that the DACA people who stayed out of trouble, not leeching on the system, should be granted
citizenship first.
I realize that we need a level set which requires drastic actions,
however I don't support the current methods 100%.
On 2025-07-31 08:59, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/30/25 10:41, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:07:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:01:28 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Yet denial of due process is just fine when used against
immigrants or
Democrats.
Illegals yes.
Come back legally next time.
Illegals are covered under the 14th amendment.
This is an invasion we are dealing with and I prefer to protect the >>>>>> legal citizens of the US over criminals who jumped the border.
<https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/07/28/200-illegal-alien-
child-sex-offenders-arrested-in-houston-in-six-months/>
All I'm insisting on is due process being followed. Arbitrary arrest >>>>> and deportation are illegal.
Period.
All I am insisting on is to enter the country legally and apply
legally for citizenship.
Many have ... and CBP is grabbing them while they're still undergoing
those due process legal processes. Is this acceptable to you?
-hh
It depends.
The whistle that they're making is that all improper border crossingsDoes the person in question have some kind of criminal background?
If not, let the hearing already in progress proceed.
If yes, back to the country of origin.
So once again: "some kind of criminal background"?
What do you mean by that?
That being said, this may come as a surprise to you but I voted for Trump
based upon him closing the border which he effectively has done and
deporting
illegals starting with the dangerous ones first which AFAIK he is doing
however there are too many casualties of war, IOW families, hard working
people with no criminal history and such being caught up in the raids.
Almost like you were lied to...
Because 99% support is in effect not really any different. /sI do not support that which is why my opinion has always been that the
DACA
people who stayed out of trouble, not leeching on the system, should
be granted
citizenship first.
I realize that we need a level set which requires drastic actions,
however I don't support the current methods 100%.
On 7/31/25 15:43, Alan wrote:And there's a subtle (not really that subtle) tacit racism that...
On 2025-07-31 08:59, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/30/25 10:41, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:07:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:01:28 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Yet denial of due process is just fine when used against
immigrants or
Democrats.
Illegals yes.
Come back legally next time.
Illegals are covered under the 14th amendment.
This is an invasion we are dealing with and I prefer to protect the >>>>>>> legal citizens of the US over criminals who jumped the border.
<https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/07/28/200-illegal-alien-
child-sex-offenders-arrested-in-houston-in-six-months/>
All I'm insisting on is due process being followed. Arbitrary arrest >>>>>> and deportation are illegal.
Period.
All I am insisting on is to enter the country legally and apply
legally for citizenship.
Many have ... and CBP is grabbing them while they're still undergoing
those due process legal processes. Is this acceptable to you?
-hh
It depends.
Not according to the 14th Amendment, it doesn't.
The whistle that they're making is that all improper border crossingsDoes the person in question have some kind of criminal background?
If not, let the hearing already in progress proceed.
If yes, back to the country of origin.
So once again: "some kind of criminal background"?
What do you mean by that?
are 'illegal' and therefore nothing less than 'criminal', thereby giving
them their belief that they can ignore the Constitutional mandates for
due process for all.
On 2025-07-31 12:55, -hh wrote:
On 7/31/25 15:43, Alan wrote:
On 2025-07-31 08:59, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-31, -hh <[email protected]> wrote:
On 7/30/25 10:41, pothead wrote:
On 2025-07-30, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2025 21:07:54 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 2025-07-29, Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2025 14:01:28 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
Yet denial of due process is just fine when used against >>>>>>>>>>> immigrants or
Democrats.
Illegals yes.
Come back legally next time.
Illegals are covered under the 14th amendment.
This is an invasion we are dealing with and I prefer to protect the >>>>>>>> legal citizens of the US over criminals who jumped the border. >>>>>>>>
<https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/07/28/200-illegal-alien- >>>>>>>> child-sex-offenders-arrested-in-houston-in-six-months/>
All I'm insisting on is due process being followed. Arbitrary
arrest
and deportation are illegal.
Period.
All I am insisting on is to enter the country legally and apply
legally for citizenship.
Many have ... and CBP is grabbing them while they're still undergoing >>>>> those due process legal processes. Is this acceptable to you?
-hh
It depends.
Not according to the 14th Amendment, it doesn't.
Does the person in question have some kind of criminal background?
If not, let the hearing already in progress proceed.
If yes, back to the country of origin.
So once again: "some kind of criminal background"?
What do you mean by that?
The whistle that they're making is that all improper border crossings
are 'illegal' and therefore nothing less than 'criminal', thereby
giving them their belief that they can ignore the Constitutional
mandates for due process for all.
And there's a subtle (not really that subtle) tacit racism that...
...of course they (ICE) can tell just by looking that someone improperly crossed the border.
If yes, back to the country of origin.
So once again: "some kind of criminal background"?
What do you mean by that?
And there's a subtle (not really that subtle) tacit racism that...
...of course they (ICE) can tell just by looking that someone
improperly crossed the border.
They're only "following orders"!
<https://imgflip.com/i/a1uzol>
Lay Your Hands on an ICE Officer After Filming ICE LEGALLY Arresting Illegal Aliens, Get Arrested
On Sat, 26 Jul 2025 09:04:27 -0700, Alan says...
Amazing that the libs are still defending this guy.
The guy who was released without any charge laid against him?
Oh no... people NEVER get detained or even taken to the Police station and never charged.
That's worth a million dollars?
He'll never get any of that.
You do remember the principle of "innocent until proven guilty", right
Did it go to court?
More bullshit conflation within the legal system.
At most, he was "accused" of doing something. There's no proving of innocence involved in THAT part of the system.
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