On 6/25/25 17:12, AlleyCat wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:21:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Why Are Retirees Leaving Florida?
Yankee liberal politics in the HOAs.
How so? Wouldn't "liberal" policies be to actually put enough funds
into escrow for maintenance, as opposed to capitalistic "conservatives"
who only cares about the next quarterly results and tries to ignore long term?
It's nothing "Florida's" done.
Except for how they had a Laissez-faire regulatory environment. That
changed a little after the Condo collapse, with House Bill 1203 which
took effect in 2024: that provided some very bare minimum HOA
requirements for budgetary disclosure, audits and for reserves.
Insurance companies knew what they were getting into when they came
here, now,
they're over-charging.
If that were actually true, then FL's "Insurer of last resort" wouldn't
need to have surcharge provisions if they run out of money.
It's still behind California.
Which means what, specifically? More vague allusions from Brietbart?
Clue to the clueless: it ain't the politics.
If true, then why did FL politicians legislate changes to HOA's & P&C?
People of all ages also have recently packed up and moved out of the
Sunshine State after BACK-TO-BACK STORMS this year.
Just what storms are you referring to? Because the Big Bend region is
what got hit (twice) last year, but no hurricane has made landfall in southern FL since Hurricane Ian hit the Fort Meyers area in 2023.
I've been here since 1965. I KNOW the risks.
Yet you don't "know" (to share) what your P&C Insurance cost is, and how
much it has gone up since even just 2019.
People are coming here for the beauty, and finding out you have to PAY
for
that beauty.
People have been pitched how there's no winter, so retirees can play
golf year-round/etc ... but have actually gotten sold a load of goods in
the form of cheap swampland.
The tourists gladly hand over their money to stay in places on the
coasts.
Look WHERE the people who moved away tried to live.
Guess what, liberal faggots... while it is true that we lost half a
million in
2023, we actually GAINED more... 637,000 people moved to the state
from across
the country that year too... stupid.
So... net GAIN.
Interesting claim in how it directly contradicts your above statement of "packed up and moved out". In any event, if one's going to talk about migration trends, what percent are retirees that aren't nominally
looking for economic opportunities?
Keep focusing on the negative. That's all you faggots can do.
According to the latest numbers, Florida led the nation with a net income
migration of almost $36.1 billion annually.
And after removing the pensions & SS of all of the retirees, what is it?
Hey...According to "U.S. News and World Report," the Chamber said, Florida
ranks top
in the nation for higher education and first in four-year college
affordability.
Florida ranks well in Higher Ed because their schools are cheap; but
that needs to be tempered by with how for K-12, their ranking is 22nd.
Florida has long been a hotspot for relocation due to its appeal to
people
from high-cost states like Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and
California.
What percentage of relocations are for improved economic opportunity, as opposed to looking for a cheap, warm place to retire?
Historically, Florida remained attractive because, despite risingprices, it
was STILL CHEAPER THAN THESE HIGH-TAX STATES.
Doesn't do a damn bit of good when FL's P&C Insurance costs are higher
than what's paid in those "high tax" states, because what matters is how
much income is left to live on after paying for core living expenses.
Of course, there's also going to be some who claim they "know the risks"
from hurricanes and not pay for homeowner's insurance (P&C), and half
the time the real reason is because they can't actually afford it.
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:21:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Why Are Retirees Leaving Florida?
Yankee liberal politics in the HOAs.
It's nothing "Florida's" done.
Insurance companies knew what they were getting into when they came here, now,
they're over-charging.
It's still behind California.
Clue to the clueless: it ain't the politics.
People of all ages also have recently packed up and moved out of the
Sunshine State after BACK-TO-BACK STORMS this year.
I've been here since 1965. I KNOW the risks.
People are coming here for the beauty, and finding out you have to PAY for that beauty.
The tourists gladly hand over their money to stay in places on the coasts.
Look WHERE the people who moved away tried to live.
Guess what, liberal faggots... while it is true that we lost half a million in
2023, we actually GAINED more... 637,000 people moved to the state from across
the country that year too... stupid.
So... net GAIN.
Keep focusing on the negative. That's all you faggots can do.
According to the latest numbers, Florida led the nation with a net income migration of almost $36.1 billion annually.
According to "U.S. News and World Report," the Chamber said, Florida ranks top
in the nation for higher education and first in four-year college affordability.
Florida has long been a hotspot for relocation due to its appeal to people from high-cost states like Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and California.
Historically, Florida remained attractive because, despite rising prices, it was STILL CHEAPER THAN THESE HIGH-TAX STATES.
Yankee liberal politics in the HOAs.
On 6/25/25 17:12, AlleyCat wrote:
<snip>
-hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On 6/25/25 17:12, AlleyCat wrote:
<snip>
That poster is one of the many silly-assed posters not worth a fart.
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:47:40 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom says...You really don't understand "irony", do you?
-hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On 6/25/25 17:12, AlleyCat wrote:
<snip>
That poster is one of the many silly-assed posters not worth a fart.
IOW, too much for your chicken shit self to handle.
Bawk bawk BAKOCK!
On 6/25/25 17:12, AlleyCat wrote:
On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:21:23 +0000, Mitchell Holman says...
Why Are Retirees Leaving Florida?
Yankee liberal politics in the HOAs.
How so? Wouldn't "liberal" policies be to actually put enough funds
into escrow for maintenance, as opposed to capitalistic "conservatives"
who only cares about the next quarterly results and tries to ignore long term?
It's nothing "Florida's" done.
Except for how they had a Laissez-faire regulatory environment. That
changed a little after the Condo collapse, with House Bill 1203 which
took effect in 2024: that provided some very bare minimum HOA
requirements for budgetary disclosure, audits and for reserves.
Insurance companies knew what they were getting into when they came
here, now,
they're over-charging.
If that were actually true, then FL's "Insurer of last resort" wouldn't
need to have surcharge provisions if they run out of money.
It's still behind California.
Which means what, specifically? More vague allusions from Brietbart?
Clue to the clueless: it ain't the politics.
If true, then why did FL politicians legislate changes to HOA's & P&C?
People of all ages also have recently packed up and moved out of the
Sunshine State after BACK-TO-BACK STORMS this year.
Just what storms are you referring to? Because the Big Bend region is
what got hit (twice) last year, but no hurricane has made landfall in southern FL since Hurricane Ian hit the Fort Meyers area in 2023.
I've been here since 1965. I KNOW the risks.
Yet you don't "know" (to share) what your P&C Insurance cost is, and how
much it has gone up since even just 2019.
People are coming here for the beauty, and finding out you have to PAY
for
that beauty.
People have been pitched how there's no winter, so retirees can play
golf year-round/etc ... but have actually gotten sold a load of goods in
the form of cheap swampland.
The tourists gladly hand over their money to stay in places on the
coasts.
Look WHERE the people who moved away tried to live.
Guess what, liberal faggots... while it is true that we lost half a
million in
2023, we actually GAINED more... 637,000 people moved to the state
from across
the country that year too... stupid.
So... net GAIN.
Interesting claim in how it directly contradicts your above statement of "packed up and moved out". In any event, if one's going to talk about migration trends, what percent are retirees that aren't nominally
looking for economic opportunities?
Keep focusing on the negative. That's all you faggots can do.
According to the latest numbers, Florida led the nation with a net income
migration of almost $36.1 billion annually.
And after removing the pensions & SS of all of the retirees, what is it?
According to "U.S. News and World Report," the Chamber said, Florida
ranks top
in the nation for higher education and first in four-year college
affordability.
Florida ranks well in Higher Ed because their schools are cheap; but
that needs to be tempered by with how for K-12, their ranking is 22nd.
Florida has long been a hotspot for relocation due to its appeal to
people
from high-cost states like Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and
California.
What percentage of relocations are for improved economic opportunity, as opposed to looking for a cheap, warm place to retire?
Historically, Florida remained attractive because, despite rising
prices, it
was STILL CHEAPER THAN THESE HIGH-TAX STATES.
Doesn't do a damn bit of good when FL's P&C Insurance costs are higher
than what's paid in those "high tax" states, because what matters is how
much income is left to live on after paying for core living expenses.
Of course, there's also going to be some who claim they "know the risks"
from hurricanes and not pay for homeowner's insurance (P&C), and half
the time the real reason is because they can't actually afford it.
On Sat, 28 Jun 2025 10:29:58 -0700, Alan says...
On 2025-06-27 17:26, AlleyCat wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:47:40 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom says...
-hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
On 6/25/25 17:12, AlleyCat wrote:
<snip>
That poster is one of the many silly-assed posters not worth a fart.
IOW, too much for your chicken shit self to handle.
Bawk bawk BAKOCK!
You really don't understand "irony", do you?
"PLONK!"
LOL...
FAGAt Chris Ahlstrom is a chicken shit.
I am not.
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