• Re: US nuclear-armed B-52H bombers to be based in Australia

    From c186282@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Thu May 15 00:18:57 2025
    XPost: aus.politics, aus.legal, talk.politics.misc

    On 5/14/25 11:36 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 10:44:39 +1000, MightyMouse
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Petzl wrote:
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 17:48:44 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/10/25 2:12 AM, Cesar wrote:
    Once more the Albanese government has made it clear that the interests >>>>> of Australia, its sovereignty and independence, are irrelevant. The
    interests and security of the Australian people and the region come a >>>>> very poor second to the government’s commitment to the USA. There is >>>>> only one interest worth pursuing and that is the US ‘alliance.’

    It has just been revealed that the Albanese government has given the >>>>> green light for American B-52H Stratofortress bombers to be based at >>>>> Tindal RAAF base in the Northern Territory. What is significant about >>>>> these bombers is that they are capable of carrying and deploying
    strategic nuclear weapons.
    . . .

       Ummm ... how USEFUL are B52s these days ? They're
       big and slow and not stealthy. Even Iran can shoot
       them down easily. Missiles/drones are the functional
       replacements.
    On Sat, 10 May 2025 17:48:44 -0400, c186282 <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 5/10/25 2:12 AM, Cesar wrote:
    Once more the Albanese government has made it clear that the interests >>>>> of Australia, its sovereignty and independence, are irrelevant. The
    interests and security of the Australian people and the region come a >>>>> very poor second to the government’s commitment to the USA. There is >>>>> only one interest worth pursuing and that is the US ‘alliance.’

    It has just been revealed that the Albanese government has given the >>>>> green light for American B-52H Stratofortress bombers to be based at >>>>> Tindal RAAF base in the Northern Territory. What is significant about >>>>> these bombers is that they are capable of carrying and deploying
    strategic nuclear weapons.
    . . .

       Ummm ... how USEFUL are B52s these days ? They're
       big and slow and not stealthy. Even Iran can shoot
       them down easily. Missiles/drones are the functional
       replacements.

    The nuclear multi-warhead missles fired from them are not
    They are also escorted by superfast AI operated drones
    <https://www.perplexity.ai/search/superfast-ai-operated-drone-es-dR287tUiTUC1fNfPHHkfgQ>

           https://tinyurl.Overview of Superfast AI-Operated Drone Escorts
    Superfast AI-operated drone escorts represent a rapidly advancing
    field in both military and civilian aviation, leveraging artificial
    intelligence to autonomously support, protect, or augment manned and
    unmanned assets.

    Key Features and Capabilities
    High Speed and Maneuverability: Modern AI-operated combat drones, such
    as those developed under the Pentagon’s Collaborative Combat Aircraft
    (CCA) program, are designed to reach speeds up to 900 km/h and perform
    complex maneuvers to escort, protect, and attack alongside manned
    aircraft.

    Autonomous Operation: These drones are capable of flying and making
    tactical decisions independently, with minimal human intervention. AI
    agents can control flight, navigation, and mission execution,
    including offensive and defensive actions.

    Mission Flexibility: AI drone escorts can be equipped for various
    roles, including surveillance, electronic warfare, direct attack, and
    communications relay. They can carry weapons, sensors, or jamming
    equipment, acting as force multipliers for piloted aircraft.

    Swarm Coordination: Advanced AI enables multiple drones to operate
    cooperatively as swarms, coordinating complex missions with limited
    human oversight, significantly enhancing battlefield effectiveness.

    Cost Efficiency: Compared to manned fighter jets, AI-operated drone
    escorts like the XQ-58A Valkyrie are much less expensive and can be
    considered “attritable,” meaning they are designed to be expendable if >>> necessary.

    Notable Programs and Examples
    Drone Model/Program    Top Speed    Range    Role/Capability
    XQ-58A Valkyrie    1,050 km/h    3,941 km    Autonomous escort, >>> strike, surveillance, team with fighters
    CCA (Collaborative Combat Aircraft)    ~900 km/h    N/A Escort,
    scout, attack, communication relay, expendable
    V-Bat Teams (Shield AI)    N/A    N/A    Swarm surveillance, autonomous
    multi-drone operationscom/3bspfzyz

    unmanned aircraft and drones are the way warfare is headed now

    We'll see...

    You can't seize territory using just those


    Again ... I'm gonna say that B-52s are seriously
    LAST CENTURY tech.

    You can pretend drones are gonna protect them, but
    I don't believe it - mostly fantasy shit there.

    MODERN drones/cruise are the actually MODERN
    military paradigm. FORGET the B-52s. They're
    just BIG EASY TARGETS. Get REAL here folks !
    Save the 52's for, like, Congo or something.
    Soon not even that.

    GREAT thing in the 50s ... but that was a LONG
    time ago. Everything's changed.

    Stealthy bombers/fighter-bombers/drones ARE
    the New Thing.

    Oh wait, do you want to build new 'DreadNauts',
    "battle-ships" ?

    TOTAL, deadly, waste and DELUSION.

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 06:57:39 2025
    XPost: aus.politics, aus.legal, talk.politics.misc


    MODERN drones/cruise are the actually MODERN
    military paradigm. FORGET the B-52s. They're
    just BIG EASY TARGETS. Get REAL here folks !
    Save the 52's for, like, Congo or something.
    Soon not even that.

    GREAT thing in the 50s ... but that was a LONG
    time ago. Everything's changed.

    Stealthy bombers/fighter-bombers/drones ARE
    the New Thing.

    Oh wait, do you want to build new 'DreadNauts',
    "battle-ships" ?

    TOTAL, deadly, waste and DELUSION.

    Yes, an "Assassination Bureau" being a department to facilitate the
    wasting of critical figures would be all faster and cheaper. History
    can and does change on the death of critical figures.
    The failure of Putin (ex-KGB) to waste Ukrainian topdogs before the
    his war was a monumental blunder.
    A successful war requires:
    1/ Intelligence about the victim.
    2/ Causus Belli
    3/ Guns, Bullets etc
    4/ Winning the peace.

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  • From Peter Jason@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri May 16 10:32:23 2025
    XPost: aus.politics, aus.legal, talk.politics.misc

    On Fri, 16 May 2025 08:15:18 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    Peter Jason <[email protected]> wrote

    MODERN drones/cruise are the actually MODERN
    military paradigm. FORGET the B-52s. They're
    just BIG EASY TARGETS.

    Mindless pig ignorant bullshit

    Get REAL here folks !
    Save the 52's for, like, Congo or something.
    Soon not even that.

    Mindless pig ignorant bullshit

    GREAT thing in the 50s ... but that was a LONG
    time ago. Everything's changed.

    Mindless pig ignorant bullshit

    Stealthy bombers/fighter-bombers/drones ARE
    the New Thing.

    Oh wait, do you want to build new 'DreadNauts',
    "battle-ships" ?

    TOTAL, deadly, waste and DELUSION.

    Carrier battle groups are nothing even remotely like that
    as the Japs discovered

    Yes, an "Assassination Bureau" being a department to facilitate the
    wasting of critical figures would be all faster and cheaper. History
    can and does change on the death of critical figures.
    The failure of Putin (ex-KGB) to waste Ukrainian topdogs before the
    his war was a monumental blunder.
    A successful war requires:
    1/ Intelligence about the victim.
    2/ Causus Belli
    3/ Guns, Bullets etc
    4/ Winning the peace.

    Disnt work with any of Hitler, Stalin, FDR, Churchill, de Gaulle, Hirohito >and was useless with JFK

    JFK was particularly useless; the efforts to assassinate Castro were
    laughable. but Stalin was a master. Hitler consolidated his rise to
    power by killing rivals.

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