• 82 Illegal Alien Invaders Prosecuted for Entering Newly Created Militar

    From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 5 08:59:18 2025
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    https://www.breitbart.com/border/2025/05/05/82-illegal-aliens-prosecuted-for-entering-newly-created-military-zone-along-new-mexico-border/

    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal charges
    under a section of U.S. law that protects military installations from unauthorized entry. On Thursday, New United States Attorney for the
    District of New Mexico Ryan Ellison announced the filing of 82 new Title
    50 charges for unauthorized entry into the newly designated National
    Defense Area along New Mexico’s southern border. The announcement
    followed a high-level visit by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and U.S.
    Border Patrol Chief Michael Banks.
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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Mon May 5 08:36:24 2025
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    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop. Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven
    beyond reasonable doubt.

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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to Siri Cruz on Mon May 5 10:04:30 2025
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    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot the
    invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly legal expenses. AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be programmed
    to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them. Good call, Siri.

    --
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  • From c186282@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Tue May 6 00:45:15 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    On 5/5/25 12:04 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond
    reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot the invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly legal expenses.  AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be programmed
    to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them.  Good call, Siri.


    HATE to say it, but the political/lawfare tactics
    of the further left DO favor just shooting any
    who infringe on the border.

    The lefty tactic is to TIE UP EVERYTHING IN LEGAL
    BULLSHIT *FOREVER* ... which must be DEFEATED.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue May 6 13:00:04 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 5/5/25 12:04 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond
    reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot the
    invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly
    legal expenses.  AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be
    programmed to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them.  Good
    call, Siri.


    HATE to say it, but the political/lawfare tactics
    of the further left DO favor just shooting any
    who infringe on the border.


    So why isn't Trump doing that?

    And don't blame the courts, Trump
    doesn't care what they say.

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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 6 10:02:14 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    On 5/5/2025 10:45 PM, c186282 wrote:
    On 5/5/25 12:04 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond
    reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot the
    invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly
    legal expenses.  AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be
    programmed to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them.  Good
    call, Siri.


      HATE to say it, but the political/lawfare tactics
      of the further left DO favor just shooting any
      who infringe on the border.

      The lefty tactic is to TIE UP EVERYTHING IN LEGAL
      BULLSHIT *FOREVER* ... which must be DEFEATED.


    Given the fact that it is a military zone, it must be treated as such.
    We are technically at war with the drug cartels while Mexican gangs are designated terrorist organizations (not to mention a hot war with the
    Houthis and a de facto war against the Russians), it follows that
    intruders in the "newly created military zone" must be treated as enemy combatants. Tough shit if they can't read signs, preferably in English,
    that tell them they're entering a military zone. Leave the carcasses in
    the desert as a warning to their fellow enemy combatants.

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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue May 6 10:07:07 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    On 5/6/2025 7:00 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

    On 5/5/25 12:04 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond
    reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot the
    invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly
    legal expenses.  AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be
    programmed to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them.  Good
    call, Siri.


    HATE to say it, but the political/lawfare tactics
    of the further left DO favor just shooting any
    who infringe on the border.


    So why isn't Trump doing that?

    And don't blame the courts, Trump
    doesn't care what they say.



    No, do blame the courts. Courts are created to deter crime, not to
    protect criminals. When their purpose is reversed, as when DHS
    Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas flipped the Department of Homeland Security
    into its opposite so that it became a tool to destroy the Homeland, then
    they must be neutralized until new judges can replace the ones aiding
    and abetting the demographic replacement of American citizens with
    illegal invaders.

    --
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    funded, replied, "Taxes can pay some, and government can pay the rest".

    Keep voting for the "lesser" evil and you'll end up in bed with satan.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Tue May 6 17:25:34 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    Dark Brandon <[email protected]> wrote in news:vvdc3a$3998v$[email protected]:

    On 5/6/2025 7:00 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    c186282 <[email protected]> wrote in
    news:[email protected]:

    On 5/5/25 12:04 PM, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond
    reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot
    the
    invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly
    legal expenses.  AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be
    programmed to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them.  Good
    call, Siri.


    HATE to say it, but the political/lawfare tactics
    of the further left DO favor just shooting any
    who infringe on the border.


    So why isn't Trump doing that?

    And don't blame the courts, Trump
    doesn't care what they say.



    No, do blame the courts. Courts are created to deter crime, not to
    protect criminals. When their purpose is reversed, as when DHS
    Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas


    Who is not in office.


    flipped the Department of Homeland Security
    into its opposite so that it became a tool to destroy the Homeland,
    then
    they must be neutralized until new judges can replace the ones aiding
    and abetting the demographic replacement of American citizens with
    illegal invaders.


    The border is Trump's now.

    If every border crossing under Biden
    was Biden's fault then every border crossing
    under Trump is Trump's fault.

    Wouldn't you agree?




    "Leadership: Whatever happens, you're
    responsible. If it doesn't happen,
    you're responsible.
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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Tue May 6 11:53:45 2025
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    On 6/5/25 9:07, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Courts are created to deter crime, not to protect criminals.

    They even let accused felons out on bail.

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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue May 6 13:44:42 2025
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    On 5/6/2025 11:25 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    The border is Trump's now.

    If every border crossing under Biden
    was Biden's fault then every border crossing
    under Trump is Trump's fault.

    Wouldn't you agree?

    There are millions of legal border crossings every year between the U.S.
    and Mexico, Canada, and between the Yukon Territory and Alaska. Then
    there are the illegal / unlawful border crossing by illegal entrants,
    including drug smugglers. While the Biden Administration encouraged,
    aided and abetted illegal entrants to illegally enter the U.S., the
    Trump Administration is making an effort to keep the drug smugglers and
    illegal entrants from illegally entering the U.S..

    Obama and Biden appointed activist judges are, in many cases, attempting
    to sabotage the Trump Administration's efforts to allow only authorized foreigners entry through our borders. The ACLU is often at the
    forefront of using the activist judges' courtrooms as a vehicle to
    subvert national security and to aid and abet foreign gang members and
    fake "asylum seekers" in their bid to destroy our way of life.

    --
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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Wed May 7 02:03:36 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    Dark Brandon <[email protected]> wrote in news:vvdor9$3fb4g$[email protected]:

    On 5/6/2025 11:25 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    The border is Trump's now.

    If every border crossing under Biden
    was Biden's fault then every border crossing
    under Trump is Trump's fault.

    Wouldn't you agree?

    There are millions of legal border crossings every year between the
    U.S.
    and Mexico, Canada, and between the Yukon Territory and Alaska. Then
    there are the illegal / unlawful border crossing by illegal entrants, including drug smugglers. While the Biden Administration encouraged,
    aided and abetted illegal entrants to illegally enter the U.S., the
    Trump Administration is making an effort to keep the drug smugglers and illegal entrants from illegally entering the U.S..



    More diversion to Biden.


    Obama and Biden appointed activist judges are, in many cases,
    attempting
    to sabotage the Trump Administration's efforts to allow only authorized foreigners entry through our borders. The ACLU is often at the
    forefront of using the activist judges' courtrooms as a vehicle to
    subvert national security and to aid and abet foreign gang members and
    fake "asylum seekers" in their bid to destroy our way of life.


    Funny how many of the "activist" judges
    blocking Trump policy are Trump appointees.

    Do explain.



    Judges appointed by Donald Trump are
    ruling against him during his second
    presidential term.
    May 6, 2025 https://theconversation.com/even-judges-appointed-by-trump-are-ruling- against-him-255835


    Trump-appointed judge says president�s use
    of Alien Enemies Act is unlawful
    MAy 1 2025
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/alien-enemies-act-trump- rodriguez-ruling


    Trump-Appointed Judge Deals Major Blow to
    Admin's Use of Alien Enemies Act
    May 01, 2025 https://www.newsweek.com/trump-appointed-judge-hands-migrants-legal-win- against-president-2066830

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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to Mitchell Holman on Tue May 6 22:03:25 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    On 5/6/2025 8:03 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    Dark Brandon <[email protected]> wrote in news:vvdor9$3fb4g$[email protected]:

    On 5/6/2025 11:25 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
    The border is Trump's now.

    If every border crossing under Biden
    was Biden's fault then every border crossing
    under Trump is Trump's fault.

    Wouldn't you agree?

    There are millions of legal border crossings every year between the
    U.S.
    and Mexico, Canada, and between the Yukon Territory and Alaska. Then
    there are the illegal / unlawful border crossing by illegal entrants,
    including drug smugglers. While the Biden Administration encouraged,
    aided and abetted illegal entrants to illegally enter the U.S., the
    Trump Administration is making an effort to keep the drug smugglers and
    illegal entrants from illegally entering the U.S..



    More diversion to Biden.


    Obama and Biden appointed activist judges are, in many cases,
    attempting
    to sabotage the Trump Administration's efforts to allow only authorized
    foreigners entry through our borders. The ACLU is often at the
    forefront of using the activist judges' courtrooms as a vehicle to
    subvert national security and to aid and abet foreign gang members and
    fake "asylum seekers" in their bid to destroy our way of life.


    Funny how many of the "activist" judges
    blocking Trump policy are Trump appointees.

    Do explain.



    Judges appointed by Donald Trump are
    ruling against him during his second
    presidential term.
    May 6, 2025 https://theconversation.com/even-judges-appointed-by-trump-are-ruling- against-him-255835


    Trump-appointed judge says president’s use
    of Alien Enemies Act is unlawful
    MAy 1 2025
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/01/politics/alien-enemies-act-trump- rodriguez-ruling


    Trump-Appointed Judge Deals Major Blow to
    Admin's Use of Alien Enemies Act
    May 01, 2025 https://www.newsweek.com/trump-appointed-judge-hands-migrants-legal-win- against-president-2066830


    My prediction is that once the activist judges and Biden appointees and Democrats in Congress and as governors and mayors have thwarted Trump's deportation agenda completely and the flood of more illegal aliens
    starts pouring over the borders; Trump will turn to the Military
    Commissions Act, Patriot Acts I and II, and National Defense
    Authorization Act to declare a state of emergency and effectively become
    the "dictator" and "Hitler" that the Democrats and legacy media have
    portrayed him as for years. Had the Democrats, the legacy media and
    activist judges simply gone along with the will of the majority of
    Americans and allowed Trump to deport illegal aliens gang members, drug dealers, rapists, murderers, and other hard core criminals, this would
    never have had to happen.


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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Thu May 8 16:44:08 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    On 5/5/25 12:04, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond
    reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot the invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly legal expenses.  AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be programmed
    to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them.  Good call, Siri.

    Problem that you have is that if the policy is going to be to use lethal
    force at all domestic US bases against trespassers, there's going to be
    a lot of dead native born white kids, as trespassing onto bases is a
    very common pastime in some regions.

    I can personally recall having one such kid hauled away in cuffs
    trespassing on a dirt bike; before they were hauled away in cuffs, I
    showed him what he barely escaped the consequences of (because our guys
    spotted him just barely in time).


    -hh

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  • From Dark Brandon@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu May 8 16:14:49 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    On 5/8/2025 2:44 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 5/5/25 12:04, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond
    reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot the
    invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly
    legal expenses.  AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be
    programmed to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them.  Good
    call, Siri.

    Problem that you have is that if the policy is going to be to use lethal force at all domestic US bases against trespassers, there's going to be
    a lot of dead native born white kids, as trespassing onto bases is a
    very common pastime in some regions.

    My understanding is that this "newly created Military Zone along the New
    Mexico border" (with "Old"Mexico) is the only zone where intruders might
    be shot by armed soldiers. Most kids living in New Mexico along the
    border are probably taught at an early age that it is very dangerous to
    go into areas frequented by drug smugglers, unlawful entrants and even wildcats, wolves, coyotes and rattlers.


    I can personally recall having one such kid hauled away in cuffs
    trespassing on a dirt bike; before they were hauled away in cuffs, I
    showed him what he barely escaped the consequences of (because our guys spotted him just barely in time).


    -hh


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  • From Siri Cruz@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Thu May 8 17:02:19 2025
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    On 8/5/25 15:14, Dark Brandon wrote:
    My understanding is that this "newly created Military Zone along
    the New Mexico border" (with "Old"Mexico) is the only zone where
    intruders might be shot by armed soldiers. Most kids living in
    New Mexico along the border are probably taught at an early age
    that it is very dangerous to go into areas frequented by drug
    smugglers, unlawful entrants and even wildcats, wolves, coyotes
    and rattlers.

    We must defend the republic from dangerous goat herers.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Dark Brandon on Fri May 9 08:12:15 2025
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc

    On 5/8/25 18:14, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/8/2025 2:44 PM, -hh wrote:
    On 5/5/25 12:04, Dark Brandon wrote:
    On 5/5/2025 9:36 AM, Siri Cruz wrote:
    On 5/5/25 7:59, Dark Brandon wrote:
    Illegal border crossers in New Mexico are now facing criminal
    charges under a section of U.S. law that protects military
    installations from unauthorized entry.

    Which costs thousands apop (sic). Defendants have to be provided
    lawyers if they cannot pay for them. Charges have be proven beyond
    reasonable doubt.


    You seem to suggest that it might be more cost effective to shoot the
    invaders as enemy combatants / terrorists in order to avoid costly
    legal expenses.  AI enhanced unmanned drones could effectively be
    programmed to profile illegal entrants and neutralize them.  Good
    call, Siri.

    Problem that you have is that if the policy is going to be to use
    lethal force at all domestic US bases against trespassers, there's
    going to be a lot of dead native born white kids, as trespassing onto
    bases is a very common pastime in some regions.

    My understanding is that this "newly created Military Zone along the New Mexico border" (with "Old"Mexico) is the only zone where intruders might
    be shot by armed soldiers.

    Nah, there's others. Some by policy, some of which just incidental.

    In the case I was recalling, it would have been incidental: the kid had
    driven their motorcycle onto a live firing range. We'd just gone hot &
    given the order to fire when they were spotted and the abort came
    through with ~1 second to spare...kid was damn lucky because he would
    have caught a dozen rounds dead center, so even if we had rendered
    immediate first aid, it still would have been very fatal.

    Most kids living in New Mexico along the border are probably
    taught at an early age that it is very dangerous to go into
    areas frequented by drug smugglers, unlawful entrants and even
    wildcats, wolves, coyotes and rattlers.

    Perhaps, but I don't really recall such concerns either in NM or AZ.

    I do have some family living in NM at present; I'll try to remember to
    ask the next time that I talk with them. Nevertheless, from an
    environmental standpoint, the arid terrain can't really support dense populations for much anything (humans or predators); the primary safety
    concern that I'd have is if I'd be staying outside overnight would be
    for rattlesnakes, plus to clunk out my boots in the morning for any
    scorpions (my FIL forgot to check...only once).


    I can personally recall having one such kid hauled away in cuffs
    trespassing on a dirt bike; before they were hauled away in cuffs, I
    showed him what he barely escaped the consequences of (because our
    guys spotted him just barely in time).


    -hh


    -hh

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