• Abrego Garcia Case Keeps Getting Worse for Dems-13

    From P. Coonan@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 3 03:26:43 2025
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    Reportedly, House Democrart caucus leader Hakeem Jeffries has quietly
    ordered his fellow Democrats to ixnay on the ipstray to El-ay Alvador-say. Perhaps Jeffries belatedly figured out that turning an illegal alien with
    one restraining order for domestic violence and clear connections to
    criminal activity into a progressive martyr for open borders wasn't
    playing well. Or perhaps Jeffries got a sense that more shoes were about
    to drop.

    If it's the latter, then Jeffries got vindicated yesterday. It turns out
    that Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife actually filed for two restraining orders against the deported, not just the one which the spouse now claims was a mistake. Fox News dug up the newly discovered application, which preceded
    the 2021 order, and it has some rather significant details about Abrego
    Garcia:


    Bill Melugin

    Apr 30, 2025
    @BillMelugin_

    Follow
    Replying to @BillMelugin_
    Current checklist for the "Maryland Man".
    - Salvadoran illegal alien
    - Alleged MS-13 gang member, reaffirmed in immigration court by a judge.
    - Accused of being a repeat wife beater/domestic abuser by his own wife, multiple times
    - Suspected of human trafficking in TN while
    Bill Melugin
    @BillMelugin_

    Follow
    Her own handwritten allegations against Kilmar Abrego Garcia from this
    2020 protective order request - I�ve redacted addresses, phone numbers, & identities of the children. This is separate from the 2021 protective
    order request she filed against him.

    https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1917686774777929771/photo/1 https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1917686774777929771/photo/2 https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1917686774777929771/photo/3

    It says on Aug. 3, 2020, that her "husband took [her] phone around 1:00
    a.m., and in the morning he wanted to take my car, but I told him I was
    going to go out with my kids. He then got angry. I went upstairs to make
    food for my kids but he turned off the stove."

    In addition, the form said Abrego Garcia had threatened her and wrote that
    she has a recording in which he "told [her] ex-mother-in-law that even if
    he kills me no one can do anything to him."

    I wonder why Abrego Garcia would think that. Hmmm.

    The document also alleges that his wife accused him of verbal and physical abuse against her and mental abuse against her children. The petition for protection form filed in Maryland by Jennifer Vasquez Sura has boxes
    checked for "acts of abuse," including kicking, slapping, shoving, mental injury of a child and detaining against will.

    The form goes on to describe an incident in November 2019 when he grabbed
    her "by the hair in the car." In December 2019, he allegedly grabbed her
    hair in the car and "dragged" her "out of car leaving [her] in the
    street." She wrote that he also "broke" her son�s tablet, "broke doors" in
    the house, pushed her against a wall, broke a phone and a television and damaged the walls that spring.

    Jennifer Vasquez withdrew that petition later in the same year, but the following year she filed a new petition. That petition was the first to
    come to light, which Vasquez now claims was also a misunderstanding, as
    she attempts to get Abrego Garcia returned. However, those allegations
    were almost as disturbing as in Vasquez' first petition:

    In a court petition, Vasquez describes multiple incidents over the course
    of several days in May 2021. In one case, Vasquez wrote that Abrego Garcia
    got angry with her at a gas station, insulted her and drove very fast.
    Days later, Vasquez alleges Abrego Garcia yelled at her to turn off her
    laptop, and when she said she wasn't tired, she said he "got angry" and
    threw her laptop on the floor. She alleged she pushed him off of her, and
    "he then punched" and "[scratched] me on my left eye, leaving me
    bleeding."

    Later that day, Abrego Garcia allegedly tore off Vasquez's shorts and
    shirt and "grabbed me by the arm" when she ran away, leaving a mark on her
    left arm. The following morning, after he allegedly didn't give her a set
    of car keys, she called an Uber for her and the kids because she was
    "scared of him" and "afraid to be close to him."

    CBS News reminded readers yesterday that prosecutors intended to pursue
    charges against Abrego Garcia until Vasquez stopped cooperating. Vasquez
    failed to appear at the final hearing, so prosecutors dropped the case.
    The release of that information has steamed Abrego Garcia's attorneys:

    "If the government believes there is a legitimate case to be made, it
    should present that case in a court of law and have a judge review and
    decide his fate�not on social media," Abrego Garcia's lawyers wrote. "But
    that cannot happen until Mr. Abrego Garcia is returned to the United
    States and given full due process. These allegations, without more, prove
    why due process and access to counsel is so important."

    Er ... no. The government does not have to present a case for domestic violence, nor do they need a trial to deport Abrego Garcia. He does not
    have a legal right to be in the country, full stop. This information
    relates less to the reasons for his deportation than it does to rebut the allegations that Abrego Garcia has been "living quietly in Maryland," as
    his defenders in the media and Democrat Party keep insisting. Abrego
    Garcia has repeatedly crossed paths with law enforcement for years --
    these are not the only interactions -- and should have been deported at
    any of those points.

    The proximate reason for his expedited deportation is his alleged
    membership in MS-13, a transnational terror group/organized crime
    syndicate. Over the last few days, some have claimed that the pictures
    showing the tattoos on Abrego Garcia's left hand are doctored, a claim
    with no evidence whatsoever. It's worth noting that Vasquez took special
    care to cover up her husband's left hand in a TikTok video promoting his
    cause, which prompted the attention to the photo with Senator Chris Van
    Hollen (D-MD):


    Andy Ngo

    @MrAndyNgo
    Kilmar Abrego Garcia�s wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, has strategically
    censored her partner�s left hand in the photo she uploaded on her TikTok
    to promote her GoFundMe.

    @nayibbukele
    , can you release the full resolution photos from the photoshoot meeting
    he had with
    @ChrisVanHollen
    ? The tattoos appears to be a marijuana leaf, a smile and the number 13.

    https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1913308687143485823/photo/2

    Was it just a coincidence that Vasquez placed the heart emojis over Abrego Garcia's left fourth and fifth fingers (and entire right hand) in this
    photo? The two fingers with the "13" tattoos seen in the other photo?
    Maybe, but color me skeptical of that explanation.

    Yesterday, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) asked DEA administrator nominee
    Terry Cole to assess the meaning of those tattoos. Cole, who worked as a
    DEA investigator, said the meaning was clear:

    Lindsey Graham

    @LindseyGrahamSC

    Follow
    I asked President Trump�s DEA chief nominee about illegal immigrant and suspected MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego Garcia�s knuckle tattoos.

    His answer is a MUST WATCH ??

    https://x.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1917637183021720041/video/1

    https://x.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1917637183021720041/photo/2

    �Based on your time as a DEA agent in the field, particularly in Mexico,
    these tattoos are consistent with MS-13 associations?� asked Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), holding up a picture of Abrego Garcia�s inked-up knuckles.

    �Yes, sir, that�s correct,� Cole answered, having earlier said the tats �suggest that he�s an MS-13 member � that those are his markings, that�s
    his brand.�

    �Do you know of any other set of combinations that would suggest some
    other organization this represents?� Graham followed up.

    �With this particular one, no sir,� the DEA nom affirmed.

    The Department of Homeland Security has other evidence for believing
    Abrego Garcia to be connected to MS-13 too; this photo just adds to the
    clear probable cause for expedited deportation. The real question is when Democrats will finally concede that their poster child for open borders is actually the Republican poster child against open borders. Until they do,
    they run the risk of making their party into DeMS-13, a weird form of La R�sistance 2.0 that posits that Trump is worse than alleged gang members, traffickers, wife beaters, and child abusers.

    And that may be why Jeffries decided to quietly put the kibosh on field
    trips to El Salvador. We'll see if other Democrats wake up to their Trump Derangement Syndrome insanity.

    Update: So much for the "coincidence" theory on the emojis:


    Wade Stotts
    @wadestotts

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    Yes, the tats are impossible to interpret. That's why his girlfriend
    covered them up--so we wouldn't be *confused*.

    https://x.com/wadestotts/status/1917610064921387515/photo/1 https://x.com/wadestotts/status/1917610064921387515/photo/2


    TheBlaze
    @theblaze
    President Trump: "He had MS13 tattooed on his knuckles."

    ABC: "He had some tattoos that are interpreted that way."

    Trump: "It says MS13."

    ABC: "That was photoshopped."

    Trump: "Do you want me to show you the picture?"

    ABC: "I'm not an expert."

    UNREAL!

    https://x.com/i/status/1917379478554026167

    Note that the hearts again cover up Abrego Garcia's right hand. I wonder
    what's on that hand that we have yet to see at all.

    https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/05/01/abrego-garcia-case-keeps- getting-worse-for-dems-13-n3802318

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to P. Coonan on Sat May 3 09:57:46 2025
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    On 5/2/25 20:26, P. Coonan wrote:
    Reportedly, House Democrart caucus leader Hakeem Jeffries has quietly
    ordered his fellow Democrats to ixnay on the ipstray to El-ay Alvador-say. Perhaps Jeffries belatedly figured out that turning an illegal alien with
    one restraining order for domestic violence and clear connections to
    criminal activity into a progressive martyr for open borders wasn't
    playing well. Or perhaps Jeffries got a sense that more shoes were about
    to drop.

    If it's the latter, then Jeffries got vindicated yesterday. It turns out
    that Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife actually filed for two restraining orders against the deported, not just the one which the spouse now claims was a mistake. Fox News dug up the newly discovered application, which preceded
    the 2021 order, and it has some rather significant details about Abrego Garcia:


    Bill Melugin
    ·
    Apr 30, 2025
    @BillMelugin_
    ·
    Follow
    Replying to @BillMelugin_
    Current checklist for the "Maryland Man".
    - Salvadoran illegal alien
    - Alleged MS-13 gang member, reaffirmed in immigration court by a judge.
    - Accused of being a repeat wife beater/domestic abuser by his own wife, multiple times
    - Suspected of human trafficking in TN while
    Bill Melugin
    @BillMelugin_
    ·
    Follow
    Her own handwritten allegations against Kilmar Abrego Garcia from this
    2020 protective order request - I’ve redacted addresses, phone numbers, & identities of the children. This is separate from the 2021 protective
    order request she filed against him.

    https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1917686774777929771/photo/1 https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1917686774777929771/photo/2 https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1917686774777929771/photo/3

    It says on Aug. 3, 2020, that her "husband took [her] phone around 1:00
    a.m., and in the morning he wanted to take my car, but I told him I was
    going to go out with my kids. He then got angry. I went upstairs to make
    food for my kids but he turned off the stove."

    In addition, the form said Abrego Garcia had threatened her and wrote that she has a recording in which he "told [her] ex-mother-in-law that even if
    he kills me no one can do anything to him."

    I wonder why Abrego Garcia would think that. Hmmm.

    The document also alleges that his wife accused him of verbal and physical abuse against her and mental abuse against her children. The petition for protection form filed in Maryland by Jennifer Vasquez Sura has boxes
    checked for "acts of abuse," including kicking, slapping, shoving, mental injury of a child and detaining against will.

    The form goes on to describe an incident in November 2019 when he grabbed
    her "by the hair in the car." In December 2019, he allegedly grabbed her
    hair in the car and "dragged" her "out of car leaving [her] in the
    street." She wrote that he also "broke" her son’s tablet, "broke doors" in the house, pushed her against a wall, broke a phone and a television and damaged the walls that spring.

    Jennifer Vasquez withdrew that petition later in the same year, but the following year she filed a new petition. That petition was the first to
    come to light, which Vasquez now claims was also a misunderstanding, as
    she attempts to get Abrego Garcia returned. However, those allegations
    were almost as disturbing as in Vasquez' first petition:

    In a court petition, Vasquez describes multiple incidents over the course
    of several days in May 2021. In one case, Vasquez wrote that Abrego Garcia got angry with her at a gas station, insulted her and drove very fast.
    Days later, Vasquez alleges Abrego Garcia yelled at her to turn off her laptop, and when she said she wasn't tired, she said he "got angry" and
    threw her laptop on the floor. She alleged she pushed him off of her, and
    "he then punched" and "[scratched] me on my left eye, leaving me
    bleeding."

    Later that day, Abrego Garcia allegedly tore off Vasquez's shorts and
    shirt and "grabbed me by the arm" when she ran away, leaving a mark on her left arm. The following morning, after he allegedly didn't give her a set
    of car keys, she called an Uber for her and the kids because she was
    "scared of him" and "afraid to be close to him."

    CBS News reminded readers yesterday that prosecutors intended to pursue charges against Abrego Garcia until Vasquez stopped cooperating. Vasquez failed to appear at the final hearing, so prosecutors dropped the case.
    The release of that information has steamed Abrego Garcia's attorneys:

    "If the government believes there is a legitimate case to be made, it
    should present that case in a court of law and have a judge review and
    decide his fate—not on social media," Abrego Garcia's lawyers wrote. "But that cannot happen until Mr. Abrego Garcia is returned to the United
    States and given full due process. These allegations, without more, prove
    why due process and access to counsel is so important."

    Er ... no. The government does not have to present a case for domestic violence, nor do they need a trial to deport Abrego Garcia. He does not
    have a legal right to be in the country, full stop. This information
    relates less to the reasons for his deportation than it does to rebut the allegations that Abrego Garcia has been "living quietly in Maryland," as
    his defenders in the media and Democrat Party keep insisting. Abrego
    Garcia has repeatedly crossed paths with law enforcement for years --
    these are not the only interactions -- and should have been deported at
    any of those points.

    The proximate reason for his expedited deportation is his alleged
    membership in MS-13, a transnational terror group/organized crime
    syndicate. Over the last few days, some have claimed that the pictures showing the tattoos on Abrego Garcia's left hand are doctored, a claim
    with no evidence whatsoever. It's worth noting that Vasquez took special
    care to cover up her husband's left hand in a TikTok video promoting his cause, which prompted the attention to the photo with Senator Chris Van Hollen (D-MD):


    Andy Ngo

    @MrAndyNgo
    Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s wife, Jennifer Vasquez Sura, has strategically censored her partner’s left hand in the photo she uploaded on her TikTok
    to promote her GoFundMe.

    @nayibbukele
    , can you release the full resolution photos from the photoshoot meeting
    he had with
    @ChrisVanHollen
    ? The tattoos appears to be a marijuana leaf, a smile and the number 13.

    https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1913308687143485823/photo/2

    Was it just a coincidence that Vasquez placed the heart emojis over Abrego Garcia's left fourth and fifth fingers (and entire right hand) in this
    photo? The two fingers with the "13" tattoos seen in the other photo?
    Maybe, but color me skeptical of that explanation.

    Yesterday, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) asked DEA administrator nominee Terry Cole to assess the meaning of those tattoos. Cole, who worked as a
    DEA investigator, said the meaning was clear:

    Lindsey Graham

    @LindseyGrahamSC
    ·
    Follow
    I asked President Trump’s DEA chief nominee about illegal immigrant and suspected MS-13 gang member Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s knuckle tattoos.

    His answer is a MUST WATCH ??

    https://x.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1917637183021720041/video/1

    https://x.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1917637183021720041/photo/2

    “Based on your time as a DEA agent in the field, particularly in Mexico, these tattoos are consistent with MS-13 associations?” asked Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), holding up a picture of Abrego Garcia’s inked-up knuckles.

    “Yes, sir, that’s correct,” Cole answered, having earlier said the tats “suggest that he’s an MS-13 member — that those are his markings, that’s
    his brand.”

    “Do you know of any other set of combinations that would suggest some
    other organization this represents?” Graham followed up.

    “With this particular one, no sir,” the DEA nom affirmed.

    The Department of Homeland Security has other evidence for believing
    Abrego Garcia to be connected to MS-13 too; this photo just adds to the
    clear probable cause for expedited deportation. The real question is when Democrats will finally concede that their poster child for open borders is actually the Republican poster child against open borders. Until they do, they run the risk of making their party into DeMS-13, a weird form of La Résistance 2.0 that posits that Trump is worse than alleged gang members, traffickers, wife beaters, and child abusers.

    And that may be why Jeffries decided to quietly put the kibosh on field
    trips to El Salvador. We'll see if other Democrats wake up to their Trump Derangement Syndrome insanity.

    Update: So much for the "coincidence" theory on the emojis:


    Wade Stotts
    @wadestotts
    ·
    Follow
    Yes, the tats are impossible to interpret. That's why his girlfriend
    covered them up--so we wouldn't be *confused*.

    https://x.com/wadestotts/status/1917610064921387515/photo/1 https://x.com/wadestotts/status/1917610064921387515/photo/2


    TheBlaze
    @theblaze
    President Trump: "He had MS13 tattooed on his knuckles."

    ABC: "He had some tattoos that are interpreted that way."

    Trump: "It says MS13."

    ABC: "That was photoshopped."

    Trump: "Do you want me to show you the picture?"

    ABC: "I'm not an expert."

    UNREAL!

    https://x.com/i/status/1917379478554026167

    Note that the hearts again cover up Abrego Garcia's right hand. I wonder what's on that hand that we have yet to see at all.

    https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/05/01/abrego-garcia-case-keeps- getting-worse-for-dems-13-n3802318

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