• Re: Nagging Mythtv problem

    From Paul@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Thu May 16 17:30:03 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.mint, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 5/16/2024 4:50 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I have had Mythtv version 34, for several weeks but two features
    unavailable:

    1) The Programme Guide is unpopulated;
    2) I cannot change channels from Live TV except by the up or down keys.

    There is a clue on System Status -> Listings Status where the following
    is displayed. WARNING:is mythtfilldatabase running?
    I have run it from the terminal several times with no improvement.

    Although this has been postd on the Mythtv Forum -> troubleshooting for several days there have been no suggestions.

    TIA


    There seems to be some difference, between having mythtv running
    the mythfilldatabase command via automation or script, and the
    user issuing an actual (different) command to gather guide data. Perhaps the script is running as the wrong user. Now, this article is from
    seventeen years ago, and of course totally irrelevant, but it
    is just the approach which has likely been preserved over the years.

    http://forum.linhes.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9941

    I would examine the pieces on disk, for signs of "clueless scripting" :-)

    One user resorted to a chmod 777 to make the account running
    the command, less of an issue.

    *******

    And if you Google this:

    mythfilldatabase not running automatically

    enjoy it while you can, because Google is about to ruin search.
    Your next search may be via DuckDuckGo.com .

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Fri May 17 15:15:26 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.mint, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 5/17/2024 1:59 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Thu, 16 May 2024 17:30:03 -0400
    Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 4:50 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I have had Mythtv version 34, for several weeks but two features
    unavailable:

    1) The Programme Guide is unpopulated;
    2) I cannot change channels from Live TV except by the up or down keys.

    There is a clue on System Status -> Listings Status where the following
    is displayed. WARNING:is mythtfilldatabase running?
    I have run it from the terminal several times with no improvement.

    Although this has been postd on the Mythtv Forum -> troubleshooting for
    several days there have been no suggestions.

    TIA


    There seems to be some difference, between having mythtv running
    the mythfilldatabase command via automation or script, and the
    user issuing an actual (different) command to gather guide data. Perhaps the >> script is running as the wrong user. Now, this article is from
    seventeen years ago, and of course totally irrelevant, but it
    is just the approach which has likely been preserved over the years.

    http://forum.linhes.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9941

    I would examine the pieces on disk, for signs of "clueless scripting" :-)

    One user resorted to a chmod 777 to make the account running
    the command, less of an issue.

    *******

    And if you Google this:

    mythfilldatabase not running automatically

    enjoy it while you can, because Google is about to ruin search.
    Your next search may be via DuckDuckGo.com .

    Paul

    Thank you, although helpful and moved me forward, it hasn't solved the problem.
    I have never before had to install xmltv. I have now. :)

    Alan

    When you install MythTV, is the distro important to you on this particular machine ?

    Would another curated version of MythTV work better ?

    I've tried MythTV before. One time, it took me forever, to convince
    my WinTV card to work. I just could not get the tuner to attach.
    I eventually got it to work, but wasn't really sure what made
    the difference.

    A second attempt, maybe a couple years later, no amount of work made
    the tuner work. I gave up.

    Maybe you could check around, and someone else has a better-prepared
    Myth install which would come up with less fuss.

    My old tuner is back in its box now, and there is another tuner
    (for the Digital TV era). It already came with software, which is
    why I haven't had a chance to try another MythTV run.

    You should be checking whatever logs are on there, for an evidence stream.
    I'm sure you've looked in here, many times by now.

    /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Sat May 18 16:37:29 2024
    XPost: alt.os.linux.mint, alt.os.linux.mageia

    On 5/18/2024 3:46 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Fri, 17 May 2024 15:15:26 -0400
    Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 5/17/2024 1:59 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    On Thu, 16 May 2024 17:30:03 -0400
    Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:

    On 5/16/2024 4:50 PM, pinnerite wrote:
    I have had Mythtv version 34, for several weeks but two features
    unavailable:

    1) The Programme Guide is unpopulated;
    2) I cannot change channels from Live TV except by the up or down keys. >>>>>
    There is a clue on System Status -> Listings Status where the following >>>>> is displayed. WARNING:is mythtfilldatabase running?
    I have run it from the terminal several times with no improvement.

    Although this has been postd on the Mythtv Forum -> troubleshooting for >>>>> several days there have been no suggestions.

    TIA


    There seems to be some difference, between having mythtv running
    the mythfilldatabase command via automation or script, and the
    user issuing an actual (different) command to gather guide data. Perhaps the
    script is running as the wrong user. Now, this article is from
    seventeen years ago, and of course totally irrelevant, but it
    is just the approach which has likely been preserved over the years.

    http://forum.linhes.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9941

    I would examine the pieces on disk, for signs of "clueless scripting" :-) >>>>
    One user resorted to a chmod 777 to make the account running
    the command, less of an issue.

    *******

    And if you Google this:

    mythfilldatabase not running automatically

    enjoy it while you can, because Google is about to ruin search.
    Your next search may be via DuckDuckGo.com .

    Paul

    Thank you, although helpful and moved me forward, it hasn't solved the problem.
    I have never before had to install xmltv. I have now. :)

    Alan

    When you install MythTV, is the distro important to you on this particular machine ?

    Would another curated version of MythTV work better ?

    I've tried MythTV before. One time, it took me forever, to convince
    my WinTV card to work. I just could not get the tuner to attach.
    I eventually got it to work, but wasn't really sure what made
    the difference.

    A second attempt, maybe a couple years later, no amount of work made
    the tuner work. I gave up.

    Maybe you could check around, and someone else has a better-prepared
    Myth install which would come up with less fuss.

    My old tuner is back in its box now, and there is another tuner
    (for the Digital TV era). It already came with software, which is
    why I haven't had a chance to try another MythTV run.

    You should be checking whatever logs are on there, for an evidence stream. >> I'm sure you've looked in here, many times by now.

    /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log

    Paul



    The problem is solved but I am not sure why.
    My mythbackend.log was full of lines Saying error unable to delete file.
    I posted a request seeking advice as to how to eliminate them.

    I was pointed to an FAQ "How do I fremove recordings that no longer
    exist on disk?"

    I followed the steps outlined and when I restarted the
    frontend, the Programme Guide was populated and the Forthcoming
    Recordings list was too!

    Alan

    It might have been a disk space problem. Just a guess.

    Paul

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