Bobbie Sellers wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
Henry Crun wrote:
Mike Easter wrote:
Another Ub derivative goes its own way vs Snap.
KDE Neon 221023 based on Ub 22.04 & KDE 5.26.1 departs Ub's big idea
of Snap and such as Snap Firefox.
It says:
snap list
no snaps are installed
It also says that its repo/s include the mozillateam .ppa for its
Ffx 106.0.1, which repo also contains Tb 102.4 .deb.
Neon does have an operative Flatpak/flathub.
the difference is:
$ snap list
Command 'snap' not found, but can be installed with:
sudo apt install snapd
Yes, you are correct; snapd is installed in the live default.
The default Discover Settings shows flatpak checked, firmware updates
only linux vendor firmware service checked, snap appears to be
'checked' but it is not blue color check like flatpak and the KDE Neon
repo/s which are also designated default.
I'm not sure I completely understand how to interpret the Discover
settings graphical 'meaning'.
The Discover 'treatment' of options for flatpak are distinctly
different from its graphical treatment of snap, firmware updates, and
kde neon repo/s. Not only does flatpak have a function to make
default and add source, but it also has a trashcan to remove it.
I don't see a function in Discover to remove snap; so apparently
Discover handles its Snap function differently than it does its
flatpak function.
Puzzling.
Sorry to hear that the updates have gotten so weird.
Don't care for the concepts in Flatpaks or in Snaps but
then after paying for yearly or bi yearly updates to Mandriva
for 5 years then to be left without help and a computer that
was very unhappy with 2011. Probably why I prefer a sturdy
Rolling Relase and am now using Linux 6.0.5 & KDE 5.26.2.
Delivered via apt-rpm via Synaptic.
The thill of a working new kernel and getting my Usenet
connection back after a glitch at the server is like
a taste of my youth.
I don't run any rolling releases as rolling; whenever I boot a 'roller'
type distro, it is always just as a live USB, so I don't have good or
bad experiences w/ rollers updating/upgrading. I do keep up w/ the
write-ups of the good and bad of rollers by such as the review Jesse
Smith did a few years ago comparing several w/ their individual tendency
to breakage or not on update/grade.
But, back to Discover as a package manager, and the management of a
'mix' of packages ranging from flatpaks to Snaps to conventional, in
this case .deb/s.
As a general rule, whenever I boot a .deb distro (or even a .rpm which
uses synaptic), my preferred package manager is synaptic, mixed in w/
sometimes my just using apt command.
Some distro/s don't even install synaptic by default, such as the
current KDE Neon, which is the OT. But, if the user 'wants' to be in
tune w/ the available packages, synaptic can't get the job done when it
comes to Snap and flatpak, not can apt, of course.
So, if one is going to have to *depend* on Discover to give a full
picture of the available packages, I believe that it is obligated to let
the user configure it in a lot of different ways, for example so that it
only shows packages which are .deb/s, if that is desired, or .deb/s +
flatpaks or .deb/s + Snaps or debs + 'everything' or whatever.
I don't think the Discover interface should be confusing or inflexible.
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Mike Easter
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