• Studio revisit bombs

    From bad sector@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 7 18:51:06 2022
    After a decade since the last time, I installed the latest UbuntuStudio again and while in the middle of setting up my desktop it became impossible to log in after a reboot. The error dialog not being resizable I took a few real pictures with a real
    camera and pasted them together @

    https://i.imgur.com/xJ8e1wT.png

    I have other systems so I can access the UbuntuStudio one from the outside, I also have a backup image made with dd that I can read. Is there any file I should look at? What other options avail?

    The install was among the longest ones I ever did in a few years so I'm not all that keen on repeating it unless inevitable :-)


    TIA

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to bad sector on Thu Sep 8 21:23:06 2022
    On 9/7/22 18:51, bad sector wrote:

    After a decade since the last time, I installed the latest UbuntuStudio again and while in the middle of setting up my desktop it became impossible to log in after a reboot. The error dialog not being resizable I took a few real pictures with a real
    camera and pasted them together @

    https://i.imgur.com/xJ8e1wT.png

    I have other systems so I can access the UbuntuStudio one from the outside, I also have a backup image made with dd that I can read. Is there any file I should look at? What other options avail?

    The install was among the longest ones I ever did in a few years so I'm not all that keen on repeating it unless inevitable :-)


    Reinstalled, posting from it.

    Thunderbird had this in my Sent folder though it had NOT been sent
    so here goes again with some additional (sorry if both show up somehow).

    The install wasn't all THAT long, about 50 minutes. What SEEMED long was
    the reading-in of the entire DVD without a single word on the dead-fish
    screen to say boo.


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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to bad sector on Thu Sep 8 22:23:15 2022
    On 9/8/2022 9:23 PM, bad sector wrote:
    On 9/7/22 18:51, bad sector wrote:

    After a decade since the last time, I installed the latest UbuntuStudio again and while in the middle of setting up my desktop it became impossible to log in after a reboot. The error dialog not being resizable I took a few real pictures with a real
    camera and pasted them together @

    https://i.imgur.com/xJ8e1wT.png

    I have other systems so I can access the UbuntuStudio one from the outside, I also have a backup image made with dd that I can read. Is there any file I should look at? What other options avail?

    The install was among the longest ones I ever did in a few years so I'm not all that keen on repeating it unless inevitable :-)


    Reinstalled, posting from it.

    Thunderbird had this in my Sent folder though it had NOT been sent
    so here goes again with some additional (sorry if both show up somehow).

    The install wasn't all THAT long, about 50 minutes. What SEEMED long was the reading-in of the entire DVD without a single word on the dead-fish screen to say boo.



    On a kernel boot line, you can use

    TORAM=yes # The yes part may be ignored, but it might work OK

    docache # Some distros use a different keyword

    This causes the DVD to be copied to RAM. The machine must be big enough,
    for ISO_size plus 1.5GB or so. That should cover the space required.

    By doing that, during installation, the seek time is zero.

    Such a scheme works best, with high quality media. My Maxell disks
    run at max read rate for a DVD. My Philips CMC are constantly
    throwing errors, so the read rate drops to 1X and this is a disaster.

    The Maxell are actually Ritek.

    On a Canonical distro that requires computing checksums on every file,
    the RAM mount again pays off for that phase of operation. You don't
    really want to random seek a DVD and compute checksums like that,
    right from the DVD. That would really suck.

    if your machine only has 2GB of RAM (which happens), then you'd be
    better off using a USB stick for the media in that case. Working
    with an unbuffered DVD, is not for the impatient.

    Paul

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Sep 10 17:19:42 2022
    On 9/8/22 22:23, Paul wrote:
    On 9/8/2022 9:23 PM, bad sector wrote:
    On 9/7/22 18:51, bad sector wrote:

    After a decade since the last time, I installed the latest
    UbuntuStudio again and while in the middle of setting up my desktop
    it became impossible to log in after a reboot. The error dialog not
    being resizable I took a few real pictures with a real camera and
    pasted them together @

    https://i.imgur.com/xJ8e1wT.png

    I have other systems so I can access the UbuntuStudio one from the
    outside, I also have a backup image made with dd that I can read. Is
    there any file I should look at? What other options avail?

    The install was among the longest ones I ever did in a few years so
    I'm not all that keen on repeating it unless inevitable :-)


    Reinstalled, posting from it.

    Thunderbird had this in my Sent folder though it had NOT been sent
    so here goes again with some additional (sorry if both show up somehow).

    The install wasn't all THAT long, about 50 minutes. What SEEMED long
    was the reading-in of the entire DVD without a single word on the
    dead-fish screen to say boo.



    On a kernel boot line, you can use

       TORAM=yes         # The yes part may be ignored, but it might work OK

       docache           # Some distros use a different keyword

    This causes the DVD to be copied to RAM. The machine must be big enough,
    for ISO_size plus 1.5GB or so. That should cover the space required.

    By doing that, during installation, the seek time is zero.

    Yes, but the load time is 30 minutes :-)

    UbuntuStudio installation 2022-09-08
    05:05 start 2nd attempt, 1st one aborted due to dead-fish screen
    :00 alert 3 times: failed to start Snap Daemon
    :29 "X" cursor appears
    :30 'arrow' cursor appears
    :40 panel appears on top
    :41 single click on "Install Ubuntu.." does nothing
    :42 double-click starts installation
    Alert: "system is not connected to the internet"
    Selected 'replacing an existing partition' (#6)
    user setup insists on user 'name', not just id
    pre-installation summary (snapshot taken)
    :50 actual install begins
    :56 all done
    Good reboot (default 10 sec delay is ridiculous)
    Changed main launcher to 'Application Menu'
    Reboot to tumbleweed
    Do grub thing
    Test boot UbuntuStudio: OK
    Park installation record (folder) into partition root
    Boot TW, make dd image: m6-ubs-ini-2022-09-07.dd
    shakedown session 1
    ===================
    ...
    0 tree created
    under /home user link pointing to /0/dx/homes/user
    edited /etc/fstab
    there no swap
    =============================================


    Such a scheme works best, with high quality media. My Maxell disks
    run at max read rate for a DVD. My Philips CMC are constantly
    throwing errors, so the read rate drops to 1X and this is a disaster.

    The Maxell are actually Ritek.

    On a Canonical distro that requires computing checksums on every file,
    the RAM mount again pays off for that phase of operation. You don't
    really want to random seek a DVD and compute checksums like that,
    right from the DVD. That would really suck.

    if your machine only has 2GB of RAM (which happens), then you'd be
    better off using a USB stick for the media in that case. Working
    with an unbuffered DVD, is not for the impatient.

       Paul

    16 gb in my box, the installer is actually one function in the live
    system so what was actually loading was the entire live system and it
    loaded into ram (I think) which took a long time. The problem with that
    was a total lack of feedback on screen, this should really be FIXED. At
    first just a very regularly blinking DVD light so I thought the media
    was dirty, I wiped it and rebooted. The second time around I waited it
    out. Once loaded I clicked the installer which apparently just copied a
    huge image to the tartget partition, I have NO IDEA when that image was prepared or assembled but it only took about 5 minutes to install. Other
    than this it's a fairly slick install, I'm not used to the partitioning graphics though.

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  • From bad sector@21:1/5 to Paul on Sat Sep 17 22:18:50 2022
    On Thu, 8 Sep 2022 22:23:15 -0400, Paul wrote:

    On 9/8/2022 9:23 PM, bad sector wrote:
    On 9/7/22 18:51, bad sector wrote:

    After a decade since the last time, I installed the latest
    UbuntuStudio again and while in the middle of setting up my desktop it
    became impossible to log in after a reboot. The error dialog not being
    resizable I took a few real pictures with a real camera and pasted
    them together @

    https://i.imgur.com/xJ8e1wT.png

    I have other systems so I can access the UbuntuStudio one from the
    outside, I also have a backup image made with dd that I can read. Is
    there any file I should look at? What other options avail?

    The install was among the longest ones I ever did in a few years so
    I'm not all that keen on repeating it unless inevitable :-)


    Reinstalled, posting from it.

    Thunderbird had this in my Sent folder though it had NOT been sent so
    here goes again with some additional (sorry if both show up somehow).

    The install wasn't all THAT long, about 50 minutes. What SEEMED long
    was the reading-in of the entire DVD without a single word on the
    dead-fish screen to say boo.



    On a kernel boot line, you can use

    TORAM=yes # The yes part may be ignored, but it might work
    OK

    docache # Some distros use a different keyword

    This causes the DVD to be copied to RAM. The machine must be big enough,
    for ISO_size plus 1.5GB or so. That should cover the space required.

    By doing that, during installation, the seek time is zero.

    Such a scheme works best, with high quality media. My Maxell disks run
    at max read rate for a DVD. My Philips CMC are constantly throwing
    errors, so the read rate drops to 1X and this is a disaster.

    The Maxell are actually Ritek.

    On a Canonical distro that requires computing checksums on every file,
    the RAM mount again pays off for that phase of operation. You don't
    really want to random seek a DVD and compute checksums like that,
    right from the DVD. That would really suck.

    if your machine only has 2GB of RAM (which happens), then you'd be
    better off using a USB stick for the media in that case. Working with an unbuffered DVD, is not for the impatient.

    Paul

    I myself don't have much need for DVD's anymore but since the Live
    installer also booted the machine this could be what it did, OR it just
    read it all in manually so to speak before doing anything else.

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