Found in another forum:
PATRICE MITSOS SAID:
No, David. You're the one who's wrong. You don't face facts. And,
you dismiss the 80% of Americans who stongly believe that there
was a conspiracy, and that the deadly bullet was shot from the front.
And I know that these would be two separate polls, as it's two
different issues...where did the kill shot come from?, and do you
believe the WC?
And about 80% of Americans believe that the kill shot came from the
grassy knoll, and about the same percentage KNOW...IN THEIR HEARTS
AND/OR THROUGH THEIR RESEARCH that the WR is nothing but GARBAGE. You
lack a BIG DOSE of common sense. You think one damn bullet is going to
do ALL THE DAMAGE that little Spector [sic] said it did?
Read carefully below - and you'll note that Von Penis doesn't answer
the questions.
DAVID VON PEIN SAID:
Patrice,
And just how many of that "80% of Americans" do you really think
know a great deal about the facts and circumstances surrounding JFK's
death? (Answer--a very small percentage of that 80%.)
This non-response is frequently trotted out - and completely ignores
the fact that people who've dug into the facts, and are highly
knowledgeable on the evidence in this case - STILL believe that the
facts support what most of America believes - that there was a
conspiracy in this case.
The false implication being, of course, that if only people *knew* the
"facts and circumstances surrounding JFK's death" - they'd suddenly
accept the WCR.
Simply not true.
And btw, the latest poll, as discussed earlier at this Facebook
group, shows a drop in the number of people who believe in a
conspiracy. It's down to 59% now (per the AP poll). That's still a
high percentage, yes, but the conspiracy theorists like to exaggerate
the poll numbers in their favor. I see that happen all the time at
various forums, with some conspiracist claiming that "90 percent of
Americans think the Warren Commission was full of [feces]"
(paraphrased).
You can whine all you want, Von Penis - but polling has consistently
shown that the WCR simply couldn't do the job.
But, again, most of those people being polled probably wouldn't know
who J.D. Tippit, Buell Wesley Frazier, and Earle Cabell were if their
lives depended on it. Point being: the vast majority of Americans who participate in news polls are, for the most part, ignorant of the
intricate facts about the JFK case. So what does their opinion really
mean? I think it means they've watched a few conspiracy-oriented documentaries or movies (particularly Oliver Stone's 1991 fantasy
flick, "JFK"), and they've based their opinion on those few things
they've seen or heard about the case.
And Von Penis doubles down on the "ignorance" defense. Sorry moron,
to have to teach you this - but people who are HIGHLY KNOWLEDGEABLE on
this case agree with the majority of Americans, ignorant or not, that
there was a conspiracy.
I've demonstrated time and time again that the WCR and the HSCA
provably LIED in their reports - and you've never been able to refute
the facts I've posted.
And we all know that Oliver Stone wouldn't present the true facts
about JFK's assassination on the big screen if he had a gun pointed at
his head. The people who went to see his movie came out of the theater
not even knowing that Lee Harvey Oswald carried a bulky paper package
into the Book Depository just hours before JFK was murdered. That
tells you how anxious Oliver is to tell the whole truth.
Oliver Stone is a red herring. Can you name the other blatant logical
fallacy you just posted above?
The answer is, of course, that even if you had a gun pointed at your
head, you'd refuse to answer.
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