On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 7:21:37 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:
On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 11:34:52 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
Didn't some of the Parkland doctors get a chance on the PBS program NOVA in 1988 to review the autopsy photos and confirm the wounds essentially were the same as what they saw when they were trying to save JFK's life at the hospital?
Are these the same doctors ?
The trailer stated "They have not deviated from what the observed 60 years ago" so I thought it
would be interesting to see what they had to say 60 years ago. Here are a couple accounts as
testified to under oath before the Warren Commission:
Dr. Robert McClelland, instructor of surgery:
Mr. SPECTER - What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition at that time?
Dr. McCLELLAND - Well, on initially coming into the room and inspecting him from a distance of only 2 or 3 feet as I put on a pair of surgical gloves, it was obvious that he had sustained a probably mortal head injury, and that his face was extremely
swollen and suffused with blood appeared cyanotic
Mr. SPECTER - "Cyanotic"---may I interrupt-just what do you mean by that in lay terms?
Dr. McCLELLAND - This mean bluish discoloration, bluish-black discoloration of the tissue. The eyes were somewhat protuberant, which is usually seen after massive head injuries denoting increased intracranial pressure, and it seemed that he perhaps was
not making, at the time at least, spontaneous respiratory movements, but was receiving artificial respiration from a machine, an anesthesia machine.
Mr. SPECTER - Who was operating that machine?
Dr. McCLELLAND - The machine---there was a changeover, just as I came in, one of the doctors in the room, I don't recall which one, had been operating what we call an intermittent positive pressure breathing machine.
Mr. SPECTER - Had that machine been utilized prior to your arrival?
Dr. McCLELLAND - It was in use as I arrived, yes, and about the same time I arrived----this would be one other doctor who came in the room that I forgot about----Dr. Jenkins, M. T. Jenkins, professor of anesthesiology, came into the room with a larger
anesthesia machine, which is a better type machine with which to maintain control of respiration, and this was then attached to the tube in the President's tracheotom; anyway, respiratory movements were being made for him with these two machines, which
were in the process of being changed when I came in.
Then, as I took my post to help with the tracheotomy, I was standing at the end of the stretcher on which the President was lying, immediately at his head, for purposes of holding a tracheotom, or a retractory in the neck line.
Mr. SPECTER - What did you observe, if anything, as to the status of the neck wound when you first arrived?
Dr. McCLELLAND - The neck wound, when I first arrived, was at this time converted into a tracheotomy incision. The skin incision had been made by Dr. Perry, and he told me---although I did not see that---that he had made the incision through a very small,
perhaps less than one quarter inch in diameter wound in the neck.
Mr. SPECTER - Do you recall whether he described it any more precisely than that?
Dr. McCLELLAND - He did not at that time.
Mr. SPECTER - Has he ever described it any more precisely for you?
Dr. McCLELLAND - He has since that time.
Mr. SPECTER - And what description has he given of it since that time?
Dr. McCLELLAND - As well as I can recall, the description that he gave was essentially as I have just described, that it was a very small injury, with clear cut, although somewhat irregular margins of less than a quarter inch in diameter, with minimal
tissue damage surrounding it on the skin.
Mr. SPECTER - Now, was there anything left for you to observe of that bullet wound, or had the incision obliterated it?
Dr. McCLELLAND - The incision had obliterated it, essentially, the skin portion, that is.
Mr. SPECTER - Before proceeding to describe what you did in connection with the tracheostomy, will you more fully describe your observation with respect to the head wound?
Dr. McCLELLAND - As I took the position at the head of the table that I have already described, to help out with the tracheotomy, I was in such a position that I could very closely examine the head wound, and I noted that the right posterior portion of
the skull had been extremely blasted. It had been shattered, apparently, by the force of the shot so that the parietal bone was protruded up through the scalp and seemed to be fractured almost along its right posterior half, as well as some of the
occipital bone being fractured in its lateral haft, and this sprung open the bones that I mentioned in such a way that you could actually look down into the skull cavity itself and see that probably a third or so, at least, of the brain tissue, posterior
cerebral tissue and some of the cerebellar tissue had been blasted out. There was a large amount of bleeding which was occurring mainly from the large venous channels in the skull which had been blasted open.
His description of the head wound is perfectly compatible with the autopsy finding that the
head wound was chiefly parietal, extending somewhat into the occipital and tempora regions.
Dr. Kenneth Salyer, neurosurgical resident on duty that day:
Mr. SPECTER - What was the President's condition at the time you arrived?
Dr. SALYER - It was critical.
Mr. SPECTER - What did you observe about him with respect to any wounds he may have sustained?
Dr. SALYER - Well, I observed that he did have some sucking wound of some type on his neck, and that he also had a wound of his right temporal region--these were the two main wounds.
Mr. SPECTER - Did you have an opportunity to observe his throat?
Dr. SALYER - No; I really did not. I think there were a lot of people--a lot of doctors more closely around him. I might mention also, I think just right after I came in the room Dr. Clark and Dr. Grossman also arrived.
The temporal bone is on the side of the head, basically the area around the ear. That is where we
see the skull flap in the Z-film after Z313.
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