On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 12:14:00 PM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 3:32:18 AM UTC-4, Sky Throne 19efppp wrote:
Posted on the Ed Farm, and he obviously is right. Fuck this Barry Ernest turd!
Adams was made to feel like an idiot for what she'd said about Lovelady and Shelley. So it's not exactly a surprise that she would much much later say she never said it. But she said it more than once, and Lovelady and Shelley both confirmed that she'
d seen them, albeit indirectly.
It should also be noted that the transcript to her testimony is in the archives, along with her hand-written notations. There was no attempt on her part to remove the testimony regarding seeing Lovelady and Shelley, quite obviously because she stood
by her testimony.
As far as the stenographer tapes...they were alll destroyed beck in 1964.
FWIW, it's clear to me that if there was a deliberate attempt to change the record and make it look like Adams said something that could be used to suggest she didn't come down the stairs when she said she did, that Lovelady and Shelley's testimony
would also have been changed. Well, their testimony suggests they did see her, but weren't sure where they saw her.
As stated, you can tell what was going on by the questions never asked. Neither Lovelady nor Shelley were asked if they'd seen Baker and Truly approach the stairs. This was one of the most important questions they could have been asked. Baker said he
saw two unidentified men standing at the back of the building. Shelley said Truly told him to guard the elevator. So why was no attempt made to figure out the identity of these men? Or just when Truly told Shelley to watch the elevator.
I think we know. The fix was in. Ball/Belin decided to pin it on the Oswald, and to do what they needed to make out that some of Oswald's co-workers were idiots. Adams wasn't alone. Piper and Dougherty were also set up.
Edited 1 hour ago by Pat Speer
To judge by his latest comment, Speer's moment of lucidity has now passed. But it was nice while it lasted!
Pat Speer's brilliance once again comes through! And I thought that he was just a boring hack! Well, it was his web page where I first heard about James Underwood interviewing Eunice or Euins or Ewins or Ewunes or somebody.
4-7-64. Warren Commission attorney Joseph Ball also fails to ask Lovelady if he saw Roy Truly and Officer Baker run up the back stairs.
This omission is particularly egregious and suspicious in light of subsequent events. On 7-5-78, Billy Lovelady was interviewed by an HSCA investigator, accompanied by an HSCA photo analyst (Robert Groden). While the tapes of this interview were not
transcribed, copies of the tapes were eventually acquired by researcher Richard Gilbride and placed on Youtube. Towards the end of Tape 1, Lovelady is asked "What did you see inside the building?" after he and Shelley returned to the building. He says he
saw some co-workers, but does not name them. He is then asked to describe what the police did as they ran into the building. His response is blurred as the tape runs out. At the beginning of Tape 2, however, he repeats for posterity what he was
describing as the tape ran out. He repeats: "One policeman (and) Mr. Truly had run up the steps...I guess they went up the steps when they couldn't get the freight elevator to go upstairs." Lovelady is then asked "What else did you see that went on at
that time after the police came in?" He responds "At that time, after Mr. Truly and (the) officer ran up, there were more Secret Service and FBI, I guess it was, that came in."
Well this suggests that Lovelady (and Shelley) were inside the building when Truly and Baker ran up the stairs.
I did not know that. Imagine listening to those horrible HSCA tapes! I'll have to give that a try.
What Speer hasn't got right yet is that Lovelady and Shelley did not leave the building at all shortly after the shooting, so they did not need to come back in quickly.
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