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  • Where's Gil?

    From John Corbett@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 8 07:34:01 2023
    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff. He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce
    around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his
    latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his nonsense elsewhere.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Tue Aug 8 08:08:41 2023
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 9:34:03 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Gil is what I call a "drive by" poster. He careens up to a particular thread and sprays a few poorly aimed shots that ricochet around, and then he lurches away in his pick-up truck, transmission groaning, back to the safety of mommy's basement,
    occasionally poking his head out to see if the coast is clear.

    As Gil has admitted, he's not real interested in what happened historically. He's the self-appointed Johnny "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!" Cochrane of the JFK assassination, obsessed with creating reasonable doubt for a mythical trial that
    will never happen.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Tue Aug 8 09:28:36 2023
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:08:42 AM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 9:34:03 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.
    Gil is what I call a "drive by" poster. He careens up to a particular thread and sprays a few poorly aimed shots that ricochet around, and then he lurches away in his pick-up truck, transmission groaning, back to the safety of mommy's basement,
    occasionally poking his head out to see if the coast is clear.

    As Gil has admitted, he's not real interested in what happened historically. He's the self-appointed Johnny "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!" Cochrane of the JFK assassination, obsessed with creating reasonable doubt for a mythical trial that
    will never happen.

    I suppose it's the most harmless way for him to deal with the voices in his head.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Aug 8 09:37:08 2023
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff. >He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in >occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce
    around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his >latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and >I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his >nonsense elsewhere.


    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error...
    Such STUPIDITY!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Tue Aug 8 17:49:39 2023
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in >occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce >around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his >latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error...
    Such STUPIDITY!!!

    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.

    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63. Nothing from you. And sorry, your multi-segment Magnum Opus doesn't cut it. Nothing in it about how many shots were fired, how JFK's body was kidnapped, etc.

    You literally can't explain what happened that day with any specificity.

    As Trump would say, "Sad!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BT George@21:1/5 to John Corbett on Wed Aug 9 07:10:57 2023
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:28:38 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:08:42 AM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 9:34:03 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.
    Gil is what I call a "drive by" poster. He careens up to a particular thread and sprays a few poorly aimed shots that ricochet around, and then he lurches away in his pick-up truck, transmission groaning, back to the safety of mommy's basement,
    occasionally poking his head out to see if the coast is clear.

    As Gil has admitted, he's not real interested in what happened historically. He's the self-appointed Johnny "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!" Cochrane of the JFK assassination, obsessed with creating reasonable doubt for a mythical trial
    that will never happen.
    I suppose it's the most harmless way for him to deal with the voices in his head.

    One suspects for some of these folks, that it is also perhaps the most therapeutic treatment for their particular psychosis.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BT George@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Wed Aug 9 07:13:55 2023
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:49:41 PM UTC-5, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in >occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce >around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his >latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error...
    Such STUPIDITY!!!
    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.

    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63. Nothing from you. And sorry, your multi-segment Magnum Opus doesn't cut it. Nothing in it about how many shots were fired, how JFK's body was kidnapped, etc.

    I think he did post his "scenario" a few years back if you can call such disconnected doubts and ramblings that. But you topped him by featuring a large (yet small enough to only be a statistical sampling of madness) number of the silly things he has
    said or positions he has embraced over time. Contradictions and manifest absurdities abounded.

    You literally can't explain what happened that day with any specificity.

    As Trump would say, "Sad!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 9 07:16:37 2023
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 17:49:39 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in
    occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce
    around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his
    latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error...
    Such STUPIDITY!!!

    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.


    Yep. It's never been answered.


    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63.

    You're apparently projecting again. I've provided a scenario - you
    refuse to do so.

    Here's mine:

    The Challenge - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to BT George on Wed Aug 9 10:10:15 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:13:56 AM UTC-5, BT George wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:49:41 PM UTC-5, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in
    occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce >around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his >latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error...
    Such STUPIDITY!!!
    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.

    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63. Nothing from you. And sorry, your multi-segment Magnum Opus doesn't cut it. Nothing in it about how many shots were fired, how JFK's body was kidnapped, etc.

    I think he did post his "scenario" a few years back if you can call such disconnected doubts and ramblings that. But you topped him by featuring a large (yet small enough to only be a statistical sampling of madness) number of the silly things he has
    said or positions he has embraced over time. Contradictions and manifest absurdities abounded.


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired
    through the front windshield of the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own subjective opinions and personal biases.

    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ


    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people did something. For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that day as we did on 11/22/63.


    You literally can't explain what happened that day with any specificity.

    As Trump would say, "Sad!"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 9 10:52:43 2023
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:45:02 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    Yes, he did, but there were so many holes in it that refuting it was like shooting fish in a
    barrel.


    Yet you can't explain why not a *SINGLE* believer responded to a
    SINGLE post in the entire series.

    Nor can you quote a *SINGLE* "hole" - and defend it.

    You're simply lying...


    It made absolutely zero sense and didn't fit any of the evidence.


    And again, you're lying. You can't quote even so much as a SINGLE
    statement I made that isn't supported by evidence.

    Are you stupid enough to think you're convincing ANYONE with these
    blatant lies?


    It demonstrated why CTs are so reluctant to ever post their own scenario.


    Au contraire - it's **ONLY** critics that post their scenarios.
    Believers are TERRIFIED of doing so - you certainly haven't.

    Neither has Chuckles.

    Neither has Chickenshit.

    Neither has Huckster Sienzant.

    Neither has Von Penis.

    Neither has Steven....

    So tell us moron - why would anyone believe your obvious lies?


    If I really gave a shit what Benny thinks I'd go to the trouble of
    finding it, but he doesn't matter so why bother. He's dead to me.


    Try harder... no-one is going to believe you when you keep bringing me
    up.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to BT George on Wed Aug 9 10:45:02 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 10:13:56 AM UTC-4, BT George wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:49:41 PM UTC-5, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in
    occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce >around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his >latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error...
    Such STUPIDITY!!!
    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.

    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63. Nothing from you. And sorry, your multi-segment Magnum Opus doesn't cut it. Nothing in it about how many shots were fired, how JFK's body was kidnapped, etc.

    I think he did post his "scenario" a few years back if you can call such disconnected doubts and ramblings that. But you topped him by featuring a large (yet small enough to only be a statistical sampling of madness) number of the silly things he has
    said or positions he has embraced over time. Contradictions and manifest absurdities abounded.

    Yes, he did, but there were so many holes in it that refuting it was like shooting fish in a
    barrel. It made absolutely zero sense and didn't fit any of the evidence. It demonstrated
    why CTs are so reluctant to ever post their own scenario. If I really gave a shit what Benny
    thinks I'd go to the trouble of finding it, but he doesn't matter so why bother. He's dead to me.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Wed Aug 9 10:30:21 2023
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <[email protected]> wrote:


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was
    behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired through the front windshield of
    the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He
    can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or
    recreations for what he alleges, etc.


    Notice that Chuckles can't quote me saying ANY of these things he
    claims I've stated... so no-one can judge the accuracy of Chuckles'
    claims.

    Nor can Chuckles state what *HE* thinks happened on 11/22/63 - he's
    refused each time I've asked.

    Chuckles is a kook. He actually BELIEVES that if someone saw you
    reading a newspaper, then months later denied that he'd seen you
    reading a newspaper - THAT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE A MURDERER!

    Chuckles can't deny it... watch folks!!


    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden
    shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own subjective opinions and personal biases.


    You can say it... you can't prove it.


    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ >The Challenge - Part 2 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 1 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 2 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 2a >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 3 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 3a >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 4 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 5 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 6 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 7 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 8 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 9 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 10 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 11 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 11a >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 11b >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 12 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 12a >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 13 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 14 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 15 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ >My Scenario - The Conclusion >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ


    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people
    did something.


    That is, of course, PROVABLY a lie on your part, Chuckles.

    A lie that no lurker could ever accept. So you're simply proving
    yourself to be a moron.


    For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and
    sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that
    day as we did on 11/22/63.


    And again, you're simply lying.

    And this fact tells the tale - for if you *could*, you'd use the truth
    to debate. But you can't.


    And you STILL refuse to give your scenario. WHAT COWARDICE!!!

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  • From David Healy@21:1/5 to BT George on Wed Aug 9 20:45:03 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 7:10:59 AM UTC-7, BT George wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:28:38 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:08:42 AM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 9:34:03 AM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote:
    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in
    occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his
    latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.
    Gil is what I call a "drive by" poster. He careens up to a particular thread and sprays a few poorly aimed shots that ricochet around, and then he lurches away in his pick-up truck, transmission groaning, back to the safety of mommy's basement,
    occasionally poking his head out to see if the coast is clear.

    As Gil has admitted, he's not real interested in what happened historically. He's the self-appointed Johnny "If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!" Cochrane of the JFK assassination, obsessed with creating reasonable doubt for a mythical trial
    that will never happen.
    I suppose it's the most harmless way for him to deal with the voices in his head.
    One suspects for some of these folks, that it is also perhaps the most therapeutic treatment for their particular psychosis.

    projecting again, brainfart? lmfao!

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  • From David Healy@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Wed Aug 9 21:00:51 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:13:56 AM UTC-5, BT George wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:49:41 PM UTC-5, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in
    occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce
    around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his
    latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error... Such STUPIDITY!!!
    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.

    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63. Nothing from you. And sorry, your multi-segment Magnum Opus doesn't cut it. Nothing in it about how many shots were fired, how JFK's body was kidnapped, etc.

    I think he did post his "scenario" a few years back if you can call such disconnected doubts and ramblings that. But you topped him by featuring a large (yet small enough to only be a statistical sampling of madness) number of the silly things he has
    said or positions he has embraced over time. Contradictions and manifest absurdities abounded.
    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired
    through the front windshield of the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own subjective opinions and personal biases.

    his "magnum opus" cleans your Marquette failed education clock... not to mention giving .john mcmadman extreme gas AND ran from this place on numerous occasions...
    do you realize you, YOU have never posted a scenario of events concerning the assassination of JFK! And you been posting trash to ACJ for what 20+ years now? Total disgrace...

    next

    Here it is:
    The Challenge - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ The Challenge - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 2a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 3 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 3a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ My Scenario - Part 4 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 5 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 6 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ My Scenario - Part 7 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ My Scenario - Part 8 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ My Scenario - Part 9 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 10 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 11 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 11a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ My Scenario - Part 11b https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ My Scenario - Part 12 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ My Scenario - Part 12a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ My Scenario - Part 13 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ My Scenario - Part 14 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ My Scenario - Part 15 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ My Scenario - The Conclusion https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ
    [...]

    diverting to Trump is a non-starter, Einstein... lying about case acts by commission or omission for 25+ years does leave a mark on ones soul...

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to David Healy on Wed Aug 9 21:30:05 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:00:54 PM UTC-5, David Healy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:13:56 AM UTC-5, BT George wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:49:41 PM UTC-5, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in
    occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce
    around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his
    latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error... Such STUPIDITY!!!
    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.

    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63. Nothing from you. And sorry, your multi-segment Magnum Opus doesn't cut it. Nothing in it about how many shots were fired, how JFK's body was kidnapped, etc.

    I think he did post his "scenario" a few years back if you can call such disconnected doubts and ramblings that. But you topped him by featuring a large (yet small enough to only be a statistical sampling of madness) number of the silly things he
    has said or positions he has embraced over time. Contradictions and manifest absurdities abounded.
    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired
    through the front windshield of the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own subjective opinions and personal biases.
    his "magnum opus" cleans your Marquette failed education clock... not to mention giving .john mcmadman extreme gas AND ran from this place on numerous occasions...
    do you realize you, YOU have never posted a scenario of events concerning the assassination of JFK! And you been posting trash to ACJ for what 20+ years now? Total disgrace...

    next
    Here it is:
    The Challenge - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ
    [...]

    diverting to Trump is a non-starter, Einstein... lying about case acts by commission or omission for 25+ years does leave a mark on ones soul...


    ((!!**HICCUP**!!))

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  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Wed Aug 9 21:37:38 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:30:28 PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <[email protected]> wrote:


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired through the front windshield of
    the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He
    can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or
    recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    Notice that Chuckles can't quote me saying ANY of these things he
    claims I've stated...

    Being the slippery, slithery, soil slug slime skank that you are, I need to be careful how I answer you, because I can't quote you SAYING these things, but you have WRITTEN these things.

    so no-one can judge the accuracy of Chuckles'
    claims.

    Nor can Chuckles state what *HE* thinks happened on 11/22/63 - he's
    refused each time I've asked.

    I don't have a different scenario than the historically accepted scenario; Oswald alone, no KNOWN help.

    Chuckles is a kook. He actually BELIEVES that if someone saw you
    reading a newspaper, then months later denied that he'd seen you
    reading a newspaper - THAT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE A MURDERER!

    I specifically do not believe that.

    Chuckles can't deny it... watch folks!!
    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own subjective opinions and personal biases.
    You can say it... you can't prove it.
    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ >The Challenge - Part 2 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 1 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 2 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 2a >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 3 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 3a >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 4 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 5 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 6 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 7 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 8 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 9 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 10 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 11 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 11a >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 11b >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 12 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 12a >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 13 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 14 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ >My Scenario - Part 15 >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ >My Scenario - The Conclusion >https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ


    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people
    did something.

    That is, of course, PROVABLY a lie on your part, Chuckles.

    Nah.

    A lie that no lurker could ever accept. So you're simply proving
    yourself to be a moron.
    For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and
    sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that
    day as we did on 11/22/63.
    And again, you're simply lying.

    And this fact tells the tale - for if you *could*, you'd use the truth
    to debate. But you can't.


    And you STILL refuse to give your scenario. WHAT COWARDICE!!!

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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 10 08:22:23 2023
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:30:28?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has
    helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed
    happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was
    behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired through the front windshield of
    the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He
    can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or
    recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    Notice that Chuckles can't quote me saying ANY of these things he
    claims I've stated...

    Being the slippery, slithery, soil slug slime skank that you are, I
    need to be careful how I answer you, because I can't quote you SAYING
    these things, but you have WRITTEN these things.


    Notice folks, that Chuckles can't QUOTE what I wrote that matches his
    claims.

    Notice that the person being "a slippery, slithery, soil slug slime
    skank" is clearly the one who STILL refuses to support his claims.


    so no-one can judge the accuracy of Chuckles'
    claims.

    Nor can Chuckles state what *HE* thinks happened on 11/22/63 - he's
    refused each time I've asked.

    I don't have...


    Indeed.

    More importantly, you simply *CAN'T* post what you believe.

    And support it.


    Chuckles is a kook. He actually BELIEVES that if someone saw you
    reading a newspaper, then months later denied that he'd seen you
    reading a newspaper - THAT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE A MURDERER!

    I specifically do not believe that.


    Then you're clearly quite dishonest. You've read that exact claim
    from Bugliosi, and remained silent.

    You saw Chickenshit defending that assertion... and said nothing.

    You saw David Von Penis accepting that assertion, and said nothing.


    Chuckles can't deny it... watch folks!!


    And now that he has - we see even more clearly his dishonesty.


    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden
    shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own
    subjective opinions and personal biases.

    You can say it... you can't prove it.


    Dead silence...


    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ >>>The Challenge - Part 2 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 1 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 2 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 2a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 3 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 3a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 4 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 5 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 6 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 7 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 8 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 9 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 10 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 11 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 11a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 11b >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 12 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 12a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 13 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 14 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ >>>My Scenario - Part 15 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ >>>My Scenario - The Conclusion >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ >>>

    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people
    did something.

    That is, of course, PROVABLY a lie on your part, Chuckles.

    Nah.


    As you won't take **ANY** authority outside of yourself on this issue,
    you're simply a liar.


    A lie that no lurker could ever accept. So you're simply proving
    yourself to be a moron.


    Notice the silence here...


    For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and
    sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that
    day as we did on 11/22/63.

    And again, you're simply lying.

    And this fact tells the tale - for if you *could*, you'd use the truth
    to debate. But you can't.

    And you STILL refuse to give your scenario. WHAT COWARDICE!!!


    Again, more silence from the coward.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Chuck Schuyler@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Thu Aug 10 10:09:48 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 10:22:33 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:30:28?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has
    helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed >>> happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was >>> behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired through the front windshield of >>> the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He
    can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or
    recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    Notice that Chuckles can't quote me saying ANY of these things he
    claims I've stated...

    Being the slippery, slithery, soil slug slime skank that you are, I
    need to be careful how I answer you, because I can't quote you SAYING these things, but you have WRITTEN these things.
    Notice folks, that Chuckles can't QUOTE what I wrote that matches his claims.

    Notice that the person being "a slippery, slithery, soil slug slime
    skank" is clearly the one who STILL refuses to support his claims.
    so no-one can judge the accuracy of Chuckles'
    claims.

    Nor can Chuckles state what *HE* thinks happened on 11/22/63 - he's
    refused each time I've asked.

    I don't have...


    Indeed.

    More importantly, you simply *CAN'T* post what you believe.

    And support it.
    Chuckles is a kook. He actually BELIEVES that if someone saw you
    reading a newspaper, then months later denied that he'd seen you
    reading a newspaper - THAT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE A MURDERER!

    I specifically do not believe that.
    Then you're clearly quite dishonest. You've read that exact claim
    from Bugliosi, and remained silent.

    You saw Chickenshit defending that assertion... and said nothing.

    You saw David Von Penis accepting that assertion, and said nothing.
    Chuckles can't deny it... watch folks!!
    And now that he has - we see even more clearly his dishonesty.
    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden
    shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own
    subjective opinions and personal biases.

    You can say it... you can't prove it.
    Dead silence...
    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ


    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people
    did something.

    That is, of course, PROVABLY a lie on your part, Chuckles.

    Nah.
    As you won't take **ANY** authority outside of yourself on this issue, you're simply a liar.
    A lie that no lurker could ever accept. So you're simply proving
    yourself to be a moron.
    Notice the silence here...
    For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and
    sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that
    day as we did on 11/22/63.

    And again, you're simply lying.

    And this fact tells the tale - for if you *could*, you'd use the truth
    to debate. But you can't.

    And you STILL refuse to give your scenario. WHAT COWARDICE!!!
    Again, more silence from the coward.

    Your fallacy here is a fallacy of over precision. You absolutely believe LBJ was one of the assassination masterminds. You absolutely believe he was behind the RFK hit to keep a future president RFK from exposing LBJ's corruption and role in JFK's death.
    You absolutely believe a shot was fired from perhaps the so-called "south knoll" that pierced the front of the limo windshield. You absolutely believe a sort of "secret" pre-autopsy autopsy was performed to have JFK's wounds conform to the sniper-from-
    behind scenario.

    The fact that I can't quote a specific passage (which you'd squirm out of) isn't relevant. Your critics here know your hobby point positions very well.

    Have you changed your mind about LBJ's involvement? About a shot penetrating the limo windshield fired from in front? Shenanigans with JFK's body/coffin being diverted for a pre-autopsy autopsy? If so, let me know. Otherwise, my summary of some of your
    hobby points--and the fact that your Magnum Opus doesn't address any of them--remains accurate.

    Sorry Ben. You'll need to do much, much better to convince your critics that you have a position worthy of consideration. Get busy, lazy bones.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Thu Aug 10 10:15:36 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:22:33 AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:30:28?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has
    helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed >>> happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was >>> behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired through the front windshield of >>> the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He
    can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or
    recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    Notice that Chuckles can't quote me saying ANY of these things he
    claims I've stated...

    Being the slippery, slithery, soil slug slime skank that you are, I
    need to be careful how I answer you, because I can't quote you SAYING these things, but you have WRITTEN these things.
    Notice folks, that Chuckles can't QUOTE what I wrote that matches his claims.

    Notice that the person being "a slippery, slithery, soil slug slime
    skank" is clearly the one who STILL refuses to support his claims.
    so no-one can judge the accuracy of Chuckles'
    claims.

    Nor can Chuckles state what *HE* thinks happened on 11/22/63 - he's
    refused each time I've asked.

    I don't have...


    Indeed.

    More importantly, you simply *CAN'T* post what you believe.

    And support it.
    Chuckles is a kook. He actually BELIEVES that if someone saw you
    reading a newspaper, then months later denied that he'd seen you
    reading a newspaper - THAT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE A MURDERER!

    I specifically do not believe that.
    Then you're clearly quite dishonest. You've read that exact claim
    from Bugliosi, and remained silent.

    You saw Chickenshit defending that assertion... and said nothing.

    I`ve explained this to you several times now. It was the change in pattern. Oswald was known to read the paper in the morning in the domino room. Not so on the day of the assassination.

    You saw David Von Penis accepting that assertion, and said nothing.
    Chuckles can't deny it... watch folks!!
    And now that he has - we see even more clearly his dishonesty.
    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden
    shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own
    subjective opinions and personal biases.

    You can say it... you can't prove it.
    Dead silence...
    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion >>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ


    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people
    did something.

    That is, of course, PROVABLY a lie on your part, Chuckles.

    Nah.
    As you won't take **ANY** authority outside of yourself on this issue, you're simply a liar.
    A lie that no lurker could ever accept. So you're simply proving
    yourself to be a moron.
    Notice the silence here...
    For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and
    sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that
    day as we did on 11/22/63.

    And again, you're simply lying.

    And this fact tells the tale - for if you *could*, you'd use the truth
    to debate. But you can't.

    And you STILL refuse to give your scenario. WHAT COWARDICE!!!
    Again, more silence from the coward.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Thu Aug 10 10:36:39 2023
    On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 10:09:48 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler <[email protected]> wrote:

    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 10:22:33?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:30:28?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has >>>>> helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed >>>>> happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was >>>>> behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired through the front windshield of >>>>> the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He
    can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or
    recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    Notice that Chuckles can't quote me saying ANY of these things he
    claims I've stated...

    Being the slippery, slithery, soil slug slime skank that you are, I
    need to be careful how I answer you, because I can't quote you SAYING
    these things, but you have WRITTEN these things.

    Notice folks, that Chuckles can't QUOTE what I wrote that matches his
    claims.


    And even when it's pointed out again - HE STILL RUNS LIKE THE
    SLIPPERY, SLITHERY, SOIL SLUG SLIME SKANK THAT HE IS!


    Notice that the person being "a slippery, slithery, soil slug slime
    skank" is clearly the one who STILL refuses to support his claims.

    so no-one can judge the accuracy of Chuckles'
    claims.

    Nor can Chuckles state what *HE* thinks happened on 11/22/63 - he's
    refused each time I've asked.

    I don't have...

    Indeed.

    More importantly, you simply *CAN'T* post what you believe.

    And support it.


    Of course, Chuckles ran AGAIN!!!


    Chuckles is a kook. He actually BELIEVES that if someone saw you
    reading a newspaper, then months later denied that he'd seen you
    reading a newspaper - THAT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE A MURDERER!

    I specifically do not believe that.

    Then you're clearly quite dishonest. You've read that exact claim
    from Bugliosi, and remained silent.

    You saw Chickenshit defending that assertion... and said nothing.

    You saw David Von Penis accepting that assertion, and said nothing.


    And you're DOING IT AGAIN!!!

    You surely don't believe that someone was shot **BEHIND** JFK with
    that same SBT bullet - yet you've remained silent.

    Such an AMAZING coward!!!


    Chuckles can't deny it... watch folks!!

    And now that he has - we see even more clearly his dishonesty.


    Particularly with a new claim of Bugs that he's running from...


    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden
    shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own >>>>> subjective opinions and personal biases.

    You can say it... you can't prove it.

    Dead silence...


    Chuckles got spanked!


    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ


    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people
    did something.

    That is, of course, PROVABLY a lie on your part, Chuckles.

    Nah.

    As you won't take **ANY** authority outside of yourself on this issue,
    you're simply a liar.


    Spanked AGAIN!


    A lie that no lurker could ever accept. So you're simply proving
    yourself to be a moron.

    Notice the silence here...


    Spanked AGAIN!!


    For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and >>>>> sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that >>>>> day as we did on 11/22/63.

    And again, you're simply lying.

    And this fact tells the tale - for if you *could*, you'd use the truth >>>> to debate. But you can't.

    And you STILL refuse to give your scenario. WHAT COWARDICE!!!

    Again, more silence from the coward.

    Your fallacy here ...

    Nope.

    You lose!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Healy@21:1/5 to Chuck Schuyler on Thu Aug 10 19:22:39 2023
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:30:07 PM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:00:54 PM UTC-5, David Healy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:13:56 AM UTC-5, BT George wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:49:41 PM UTC-5, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in
    occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce
    around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his
    latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error... Such STUPIDITY!!!
    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.

    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63. Nothing from you. And sorry, your multi-segment Magnum Opus doesn't cut it. Nothing in it about how many shots were fired, how JFK's body was kidnapped, etc.

    I think he did post his "scenario" a few years back if you can call such disconnected doubts and ramblings that. But you topped him by featuring a large (yet small enough to only be a statistical sampling of madness) number of the silly things he
    has said or positions he has embraced over time. Contradictions and manifest absurdities abounded.
    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired
    through the front windshield of the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own subjective opinions and personal biases.
    his "magnum opus" cleans your Marquette failed education clock... not to mention giving .john mcmadman extreme gas AND ran from this place on numerous occasions...
    do you realize you, YOU have never posted a scenario of events concerning the assassination of JFK! And you been posting trash to ACJ for what 20+ years now? Total disgrace...

    next
    Here it is:
    The Challenge - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ
    [...]

    diverting to Trump is a non-starter, Einstein... lying about case acts by commission or omission for 25+ years does leave a mark on ones soul...
    ((!!**HICCUP**!!))

    mom didn't burp your ass, so we have to do it, and you STILL shit on the rug...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From BT George@21:1/5 to David Healy on Fri Aug 11 07:53:09 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 9:22:42 PM UTC-5, David Healy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:30:07 PM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 11:00:54 PM UTC-5, David Healy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 10:10:17 AM UTC-7, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 9:13:56 AM UTC-5, BT George wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 7:49:41 PM UTC-5, Chuck Schuyler wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 8, 2023 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 07:34:01 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:

    He hasn't posted anything since he stormed out of his latest thread in a huff.
    He threw a real hissy fit after I posted several links to legal websites showing
    his concept of chain of custody rules don't hold water.

    When the McAdams group was still in business, Bob Harris used to drop in
    occasionally. People who frequent other groups told me he would bounce
    around from one forum to another, then leave after somebody refuted his
    latest offering. Is that Gil's game too? I know he posts to other forums and
    I wonder if he has decided to bail out of this one for a while and spread his
    nonsense elsewhere.

    Answering a post from a decade ago, and not realizing his error...
    Such STUPIDITY!!!
    How old is your "Mark Lane" series? You've been posting the same stuff for two decades.

    You know what you won't post? Your version of what happened on 11/22/63. Nothing from you. And sorry, your multi-segment Magnum Opus doesn't cut it. Nothing in it about how many shots were fired, how JFK's body was kidnapped, etc.

    I think he did post his "scenario" a few years back if you can call such disconnected doubts and ramblings that. But you topped him by featuring a large (yet small enough to only be a statistical sampling of madness) number of the silly things
    he has said or positions he has embraced over time. Contradictions and manifest absurdities abounded.
    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was behind RFK's murder, a shot was
    fired through the front windshield of the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own subjective opinions and personal biases.
    his "magnum opus" cleans your Marquette failed education clock... not to mention giving .john mcmadman extreme gas AND ran from this place on numerous occasions...
    do you realize you, YOU have never posted a scenario of events concerning the assassination of JFK! And you been posting trash to ACJ for what 20+ years now? Total disgrace...

    next
    Here it is:
    The Challenge - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ
    [...]

    diverting to Trump is a non-starter, Einstein... lying about case acts by commission or omission for 25+ years does leave a mark on ones soul...
    ((!!**HICCUP**!!))
    mom didn't burp your ass, so we have to do it, and you STILL shit on the rug...

    Hey quick time out. Didn't you say a few months ago you were dealing with some health issues? If so, is everything going OK, or at least better, for the moment?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Corbett@21:1/5 to BT George on Fri Aug 11 08:06:09 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 10:53:11 AM UTC-4, BT George wrote:

    Hey quick time out. Didn't you say a few months ago you were dealing with some health issues? If so, is everything going OK, or at least better, for the moment?

    Just last night I was watching The Godfather II for the umpteenth time. In one scene Michael
    Corleone observed, "Hyman Roth has been dying from the same heart attack for 20 years.".
    Maybe that's the case with Healy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Fri Aug 11 08:20:09 2023
    On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 08:06:09 -0700 (PDT), John Corbett <[email protected]> wrote:

    Just last night I was watching The Godfather II for the umpteenth time. In one scene Michael
    Corleone observed, "Hyman Roth has been dying from the same heart attack for 20 years.".

    Logical fallacy removed... you're incapable of naming it anyway...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 14:22:36 2023
    On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 10:15:36 -0700 (PDT), Bud <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:22:33?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:30:28?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has >>>>> helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed >>>>> happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was >>>>> behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired through the front windshield of >>>>> the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He
    can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or
    recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    Notice that Chuckles can't quote me saying ANY of these things he
    claims I've stated...

    Being the slippery, slithery, soil slug slime skank that you are, I
    need to be careful how I answer you, because I can't quote you SAYING
    these things, but you have WRITTEN these things.
    Notice folks, that Chuckles can't QUOTE what I wrote that matches his
    claims.

    Notice that the person being "a slippery, slithery, soil slug slime
    skank" is clearly the one who STILL refuses to support his claims.
    so no-one can judge the accuracy of Chuckles'
    claims.

    Nor can Chuckles state what *HE* thinks happened on 11/22/63 - he's
    refused each time I've asked.

    I don't have...


    Indeed.

    More importantly, you simply *CAN'T* post what you believe.

    And support it.
    Chuckles is a kook. He actually BELIEVES that if someone saw you
    reading a newspaper, then months later denied that he'd seen you
    reading a newspaper - THAT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE A MURDERER!

    I specifically do not believe that.
    Then you're clearly quite dishonest. You've read that exact claim
    from Bugliosi, and remained silent.

    You saw Chickenshit defending that assertion... and said nothing.

    I`ve explained this to you several times now.


    And I've refuted you each time.


    It was the change in pattern.


    No, there was no change in pattern. The EARLIEST evidence shows that
    Oswald did what he normally did.

    You're going to have to deal with Chuckles... **HE** doesn't accept
    what you're saying.



    You saw David Von Penis accepting that assertion, and said nothing.
    Chuckles can't deny it... watch folks!!
    And now that he has - we see even more clearly his dishonesty.
    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden
    shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own >>>>> subjective opinions and personal biases.

    You can say it... you can't prove it.
    Dead silence...
    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ


    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people
    did something.

    That is, of course, PROVABLY a lie on your part, Chuckles.

    Nah.
    As you won't take **ANY** authority outside of yourself on this issue,
    you're simply a liar.
    A lie that no lurker could ever accept. So you're simply proving
    yourself to be a moron.
    Notice the silence here...
    For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and >>>>> sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that >>>>> day as we did on 11/22/63.

    And again, you're simply lying.

    And this fact tells the tale - for if you *could*, you'd use the truth >>>> to debate. But you can't.

    And you STILL refuse to give your scenario. WHAT COWARDICE!!!
    Again, more silence from the coward.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bud@21:1/5 to Ben Holmes on Fri Aug 11 15:01:37 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 5:23:02 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 10:15:36 -0700 (PDT), Bud <[email protected]>
    wrote:
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 11:22:33?AM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 21:37:38 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 12:30:28?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 10:10:15 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Schuyler
    <[email protected]> wrote:


    No, his "explanation" is what I call his "Magnum Opus," which he has >>>>> helpfully cut-and-pasted at this thread. None of the things he claimed >>>>> happened that day are explained. (LBJ ordered the "hit" and later was >>>>> behind RFK's murder, a shot was fired through the front windshield of >>>>> the limo, JFK's corpse was diverted for a secret autopsy, etc.) He >>>>> can't pinpoint what happened, he doesn't link to any tests or
    recreations for what he alleges, etc.

    Notice that Chuckles can't quote me saying ANY of these things he
    claims I've stated...

    Being the slippery, slithery, soil slug slime skank that you are, I
    need to be careful how I answer you, because I can't quote you SAYING >>> these things, but you have WRITTEN these things.
    Notice folks, that Chuckles can't QUOTE what I wrote that matches his
    claims.

    Notice that the person being "a slippery, slithery, soil slug slime
    skank" is clearly the one who STILL refuses to support his claims.
    so no-one can judge the accuracy of Chuckles'
    claims.

    Nor can Chuckles state what *HE* thinks happened on 11/22/63 - he's >>>> refused each time I've asked.

    I don't have...


    Indeed.

    More importantly, you simply *CAN'T* post what you believe.

    And support it.
    Chuckles is a kook. He actually BELIEVES that if someone saw you
    reading a newspaper, then months later denied that he'd seen you
    reading a newspaper - THAT IT'S EVIDENCE THAT YOU'RE A MURDERER!

    I specifically do not believe that.
    Then you're clearly quite dishonest. You've read that exact claim
    from Bugliosi, and remained silent.

    You saw Chickenshit defending that assertion... and said nothing.

    I`ve explained this to you several times now.
    And I've refuted you each time.

    And then you woke up.

    It was the change in pattern.
    No, there was no change in pattern. The EARLIEST evidence shows that
    Oswald did what he normally did.

    Produce this "earliest evidence" that shows Oswald read the paper in the Domino room on the day of the assassination first thing when he came to work like he usually did.

    You won`t, because you are lying.

    You're going to have to deal with Chuckles... **HE** doesn't accept
    what you're saying.

    Is that what the voices in your head told you?

    You saw David Von Penis accepting that assertion, and said nothing.
    Chuckles can't deny it... watch folks!!
    And now that he has - we see even more clearly his dishonesty.
    His entire Magnum Opus is just a series of begged questions, burden >>>>> shifting, and other assorted logical fallacies, based off of his own >>>>> subjective opinions and personal biases.

    You can say it... you can't prove it.
    Dead silence...
    Here it is:

    The Challenge - Part 1 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/x4n7Di-GBd8/_WbEfALeAAAJ
    The Challenge - Part 2 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/WVBtmUQkx6c/9ZdyxAPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 1 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/y0hdkKgWvtI/3uukYgXeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/jSfe1BrGfJc/SOXAOQbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 2a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/kGfZPR4C-Lw/AlnRq1HeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/IShoUFao5OU/VuYGWFTeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 3a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/JFuasrnWRqA/l1vih03eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 4 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/LRMeWBFE1ug/bfjGTAbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 5 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/S1ddVKc3Jj4/IESJbFPeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 6 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/b5ODl3yA4uk/g77N-UreAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 7 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/rwmZjz92YC8/P-9Mn07eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 8 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c6e29olW6XA/Os29-FveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 9 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/ixNqGISHbrU/gd06wVHeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 10 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/3Di6kuseb2Q/aHbAQmLeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/sYEyPH0A_eI/IH-UZgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/aGduj6uaGUk/3eDp513eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 11b >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8rAmKZBOCiY/yCELq27eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/OnrH5R6ryHE/stjdfgbeAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 12a >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/J0A8N12PPHU/CcxpiU7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 13 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/8hD-q0gTa_c/Co3ZJE7eAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 14 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/lsaXwhPRbEg/hZ7ZmEveAAAJ
    My Scenario - Part 15 >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UA86YdJXEgY/JhG8o0reAAAJ
    My Scenario - The Conclusion >>>>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.conspiracy.jfk/UWfco_sGxYw/yApSPFXeAAAJ


    The only thing Ben has figured out is that on 11/22/63, some people >>>>> did something.

    That is, of course, PROVABLY a lie on your part, Chuckles.

    Nah.
    As you won't take **ANY** authority outside of yourself on this issue,
    you're simply a liar.
    A lie that no lurker could ever accept. So you're simply proving
    yourself to be a moron.
    Notice the silence here...
    For Ben, it's all a head-scratching, shoulder-shrugging mystery, and >>>>> sixty years later, we know almost as little about what happened that >>>>> day as we did on 11/22/63.

    And again, you're simply lying.

    And this fact tells the tale - for if you *could*, you'd use the truth >>>> to debate. But you can't.

    And you STILL refuse to give your scenario. WHAT COWARDICE!!!
    Again, more silence from the coward.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 15:10:49 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 6:08:25 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Non sequitur removed.

    The post that frightened Ben...

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/BI_ZOaLh-30/m/0i8l2hePAAAJ

    Ben thinks if someone always does something at a certain time and then does it at a different time, this is not a change of pattern.

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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 16:05:09 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 6:16:25 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Non sequitur removed.

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/BI_ZOaLh-30/m/0i8l2hePAAAJ

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  • From Hans@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 18:43:05 2023
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  • From Bud@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 11 18:50:58 2023
    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 7:08:32 PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Non sequitur removed.

    The post that frightened Ben...

    https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/BI_ZOaLh-30/m/0i8l2hePAAAJ

    Ben thinks if someone always does something at a certain time and then does it at a different time, this is not a change of pattern.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ben Holmes@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 14 08:25:40 2023
    On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT), Bud <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 7:08:32?PM UTC-4, Ben Holmes wrote:

    Non sequitur removed.

    So, according to Bugliosi, it was this "oval" shape that was
    "virtually conclusive evidence" of an SBT?

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