"I will lay it on the line - there is not one such fossil for which one
could make a watertight argument. The reason is that statements
about ancestry and descent are not applicable in the fossil record.
Is Archaeopteryx the ancestor of all birds? Perhaps yes, perhaps no
there is no way of answering the question. It is easy enough to make
up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons
why the stages should be favoured by natural selection. But such
stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them to
the test." ~ Dr. Colin Patterson, paleontologist
"The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record
persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary
trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and
nodes of their branches; the rest is inference..not the evidence
of fossils." ~ Stephen J. Gould, paleontologist
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and
paleontology does not provide them. The gaps must therefore
be a contingent feature of the record."
~ David B. Kitts, Ph.D, zoologist, paleontologist
"Andrew" wrote:
"I will lay it on the line - there is not one such fossil for which one
could make a watertight argument. The reason is that statements
about ancestry and descent are not applicable in the fossil record.
Is Archaeopteryx the ancestor of all birds? Perhaps yes, perhaps no
there is no way of answering the question. It is easy enough to make
up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons
why the stages should be favoured by natural selection. But such
stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them to
the test." ~ Dr. Colin Patterson, paleontologist
"The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record
persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary
trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and
nodes of their branches; the rest is inference..not the evidence
of fossils." ~ Stephen J. Gould, paleontologist
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and
paleontology does not provide them. The gaps must therefore
be a contingent feature of the record."
~ David B. Kitts, Ph.D, zoologist, paleontologist
Many species now going extinct may
vanish without a fossil trace
March 21, 2016
The researchers were shocked to find
that more than 85 percent of the mammal
species at high risk of extinction lack
a fossil record.
Viewed from the perspective of the fossil
record alone, the magnitude of the current
mammal die-off thus appears markedly reduced.
The picture may be even more distorted for
other land-dwelling vertebrates: only 3
percent of today's threatened bird species
and 1.6 percent of threatened reptile species
have a known fossil record. https://today.uic.edu/many-species-now-going-extinct-may-vanish-without- a-fossil-trace/
If a species never gets fossilized
can you claim it never existed?
"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
"Andrew" wrote:
"I will lay it on the line - there is not one such fossil for which
one could make a watertight argument. The reason is that statements
about ancestry and descent are not applicable in the fossil record.
Is Archaeopteryx the ancestor of all birds? Perhaps yes, perhaps no
there is no way of answering the question. It is easy enough to make
up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons
why the stages should be favoured by natural selection. But such
stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them
to
the test." ~ Dr. Colin Patterson, paleontologist
"The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record
persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary
trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and
nodes of their branches; the rest is inference..not the evidence
of fossils." ~ Stephen J. Gould, paleontologist
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and
paleontology does not provide them. The gaps must therefore
be a contingent feature of the record."
~ David B. Kitts, Ph.D, zoologist, paleontologist
Many species now going extinct may
vanish without a fossil trace
March 21, 2016
The researchers were shocked to find
that more than 85 percent of the mammal
species at high risk of extinction lack
a fossil record.
Viewed from the perspective of the fossil
record alone, the magnitude of the current
mammal die-off thus appears markedly reduced.
The picture may be even more distorted for
other land-dwelling vertebrates: only 3
percent of today's threatened bird species
and 1.6 percent of threatened reptile species
have a known fossil record.
https://today.uic.edu/many-species-now-going-extinct-may-vanish-withou
t- a-fossil-trace/
If a species never gets fossilized
can you claim it never existed?
No, but neither could one claim that they did.
And that does not negate the fact that there is
no empirical evidence of transitional forms
ever existing.
Andrew wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote:
"Andrew" wrote:
"I will lay it on the line - there is not one such fossil for which
one could make a watertight argument. The reason is that statements
about ancestry and descent are not applicable in the fossil record.
Is Archaeopteryx the ancestor of all birds? Perhaps yes, perhaps no
there is no way of answering the question. It is easy enough to make
up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons
why the stages should be favoured by natural selection. But such
stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them to >>>> the test." ~ Dr. Colin Patterson, paleontologist
"The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record
persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees
that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of
their branches; the rest is inference..not the evidence of
fossils." ~ Stephen J. Gould, paleontologist
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and
paleontology does not provide them. The gaps must therefore be a
contingent feature of the record."
~ David B. Kitts, Ph.D, zoologist, paleontologist
Many species now going extinct may vanish without a fossil trace
March 21, 2016
The researchers were shocked to find that more than 85 percent of the
mammal species at high risk of extinction lack a fossil record.
Viewed from the perspective of the fossil record alone, the magnitude
of the current mammal die-off thus appears markedly reduced. The
picture may be even more distorted for other land-dwelling
vertebrates: only 3 percent of today's threatened bird species and 1.6
percent of threatened reptile species have a known fossil record.
https://today.uic.edu/many-species-now-going-extinct-may-vanish-without- >>> a-fossil-trace/
If a species never gets fossilized can you claim it never existed?
No, but neither could one claim that they did. And that does not negate
the fact that there is no empirical evidence of transitional forms
ever existing.
Bottom line, you have been deceived. Which
would not have happened if you had not been
so gullible.
Andrew,
Here are two neat little books; I've posted about these here before, but you'll never read either:
https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/1886/science-and-creationism-a-view-from-the-national-academy-of
with an updated version:
https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/6024/science-and-creationism-a-view-from-the-national-academy-of
They are both free, of course, but I doubt that you will click either link.
"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:10972c0$iuqh$[email protected]...
Andrew wrote:
"Mitchell Holman" wrote:
"Andrew" wrote:
"I will lay it on the line - there is not one such fossil for which
one could make a watertight argument. The reason is that statements
about ancestry and descent are not applicable in the fossil record.
Is Archaeopteryx the ancestor of all birds? Perhaps yes, perhaps no
there is no way of answering the question. It is easy enough to make >>>>> up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons >>>>> why the stages should be favoured by natural selection. But such
stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them to >>>>> the test." ~ Dr. Colin Patterson, paleontologist
"The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record
persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees >>>>> that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of
their branches; the rest is inference..not the evidence of
fossils." ~ Stephen J. Gould, paleontologist
"Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and
paleontology does not provide them. The gaps must therefore be a
contingent feature of the record."
~ David B. Kitts, Ph.D, zoologist, paleontologist
Many species now going extinct may vanish without a fossil trace
March 21, 2016
The researchers were shocked to find that more than 85 percent of the
mammal species at high risk of extinction lack a fossil record.
Viewed from the perspective of the fossil record alone, the magnitude
of the current mammal die-off thus appears markedly reduced. The
picture may be even more distorted for other land-dwelling
vertebrates: only 3 percent of today's threatened bird species and 1.6 >>>> percent of threatened reptile species have a known fossil record.
https://today.uic.edu/many-species-now-going-extinct-may-vanish-without- >>>> a-fossil-trace/
If a species never gets fossilized can you claim it never existed?
No, but neither could one claim that they did. And that does not negate
the fact that there is no empirical evidence of transitional forms
ever existing.
Bottom line, you have been deceived. Which
would not have happened if you had not been
so gullible.
Andrew,
Here are two neat little books; I've posted about these here before, but
you'll never read either:
https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/1886/science-and-creationism-a-view-from-the-national-academy-of
with an updated version:
https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/6024/science-and-creationism-a-view-from-the-national-academy-of
They are both free, of course, but I doubt that you will click either link.
If you send me a link, I will certainly go to it.
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