• SpaceX Sued for Allegedly Discriminating Against Refugees

    From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 24 13:53:53 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has
    filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk‘s
    space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against
    asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company
    by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful
    permanent residents” in online job postings. The complaint alleges that
    if asylees and refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely rejected, and that the company’s discrimination practices were “routine, widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and
    Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s
    hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the investigation,
    as is protocol, and requested the company’s records, the company
    allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to subpoena the records
    in 2021 and finding a “pattern or practice of unfair immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public
    job advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S.
    citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000 hirings
    between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only
    one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO
    Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the
    company’s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a 2020
    tweet by Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green card to
    be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons technology.” Musk reiterated this in various video interviews referenced in the suit,
    citing U.S. export regulations to support his assertion that the company legally could not hire anyone without a “green card.


    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Yak@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Thu Aug 24 16:37:34 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/24/2023 3:53 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has
    filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk‘s space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against
    asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company
    by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents” in online job postings. The complaint alleges that
    if asylees and refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely rejected, and that the company’s discrimination practices were “routine, widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s
    hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the investigation,
    as is protocol, and requested the company’s records, the company
    allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to subpoena the records
    in 2021 and finding a “pattern or practice of unfair immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public
    job advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S.
    citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000 hirings between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only
    one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO
    Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the company’s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a 2020 tweet by Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green card to
    be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons technology.” Musk reiterated this in various video interviews referenced in the suit,
    citing U.S. export regulations to support his assertion that the company legally could not hire anyone without a “green card.

    *Texas puts up barriers to keep “asylees” from illegally entering US*

    *Biden’s DOJ sues Texas*

    *SpaceX doesn’t hire the “asylees”*

    *Biden’s DOJ sues SpaceX*

    It’s not incompetence. It’s intentional. All of it.

    But don’t you effing dare talk about that kooky crazy fascist racist tin-foil-hat “Great Replacement Theory”

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Yak on Thu Aug 24 15:04:38 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/24/2023 2:37 PM, Yak wrote:
    On 8/24/2023 3:53 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party
    and the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has
    filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk‘s
    space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against
    asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the
    company by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and
    lawful permanent residents” in online job postings. The complaint
    alleges that if asylees and refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they
    were routinely rejected, and that the company’s discrimination
    practices were “routine, widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and
    Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s
    hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the
    investigation, as is protocol, and requested the company’s records,
    the company allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to subpoena
    the records in 2021 and finding a “pattern or practice of unfair
    immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public
    job advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S.
    citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000
    hirings between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX
    hired only one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it
    was under investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO
    Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the
    company’s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a
    2020 tweet by Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green
    card to be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons
    technology.” Musk reiterated this in various video interviews
    referenced in the suit, citing U.S. export regulations to support his
    assertion that the company legally could not hire anyone without a
    “green card.

    *Texas puts up barriers to keep “asylees” from illegally entering US*

    *Biden’s DOJ sues Texas*

    *SpaceX doesn’t hire the “asylees”*

    *Biden’s DOJ sues SpaceX*

    It’s not incompetence. It’s intentional. All of it.

    But don’t you effing dare talk about that kooky crazy fascist racist tin-foil-hat “Great Replacement Theory”



    Well stated!

    https://twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/1694683821361320426


    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Thu Aug 24 17:58:54 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/24/23 14:53, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has
    filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk‘s space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against
    asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company
    by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents” in online job postings. The complaint alleges that
    if asylees and refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely rejected, and that the company’s discrimination practices were “routine, widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s
    hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the investigation,
    as is protocol, and requested the company’s records, the company
    allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to subpoena the records
    in 2021 and finding a “pattern or practice of unfair immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public
    job advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S.
    citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000 hirings between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only
    one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO
    Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the company’s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a 2020 tweet by Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green card to
    be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons technology.” Musk reiterated this in various video interviews referenced in the suit,
    citing U.S. export regulations to support his assertion that the company legally could not hire anyone without a “green card.


    A US Company chooses to hire only those legally allowed to work in the
    USA, and the DOJ investigates them. That is beyond bizarre, in fact the bureaucrat who thought this one up should be terminated for cause.

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  • From Crunch@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 24 22:57:13 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?


    They were going to stuff Trump in one of those rockets but he said he'd
    rather have it in his ass.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Thu Aug 24 16:18:39 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/24/2023 3:58 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 14:53, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" sailors in
    the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and the more distant
    Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead blueprints from Los Alamos, >> what possible reason would the DOJ have to force Space X to hire "asylum
    seekers" / "refugees" other than to sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has filed an
    employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk‘s space
    exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against asylees and
    refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX allegedly >> “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company by wrongly >> stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful permanent
    residents” in online job postings. The complaint alleges that if asylees and
    refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely rejected, and that >> the company’s discrimination practices were “routine, widespread, and
    longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and Employee
    Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s hiring practices in
    2020. When it informed SpaceX of the investigation, as is protocol, and
    requested the company’s records, the company allegedly failed to respond, >> prompting the IER to subpoena the records in 2021 and finding a “pattern or
    practice of unfair immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public job
    advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S. citizens or
    lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000 hirings between September
    2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only one asylee, four months
    after IER informed the company it was under investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO Elon Musk
    has a history of making public statements referencing the company’s
    discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a 2020 tweet by Musk >> claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green card to be hired at SpaceX,
    as rockets are advanced weapons technology.” Musk reiterated this in various
    video interviews referenced in the suit, citing U.S. export regulations to >> support his assertion that the company legally could not hire anyone without a
    “green card.


    A US Company chooses to hire only those legally allowed to work in the USA, and
    the DOJ investigates them.

    Why do you work so fucking hard at being stupid?

    If you are a refugee or asylee, you have permanent permission to live and
    work in the United States. Several federal laws protect your right to work
    regardless of where you live in the United States. This document will help
    you learn more about your rights and provide you with the government agency
    to contact if you have questions or problems. Contact information for each
    agency is at the bottom of page 2.

    1. What kinds of jobs can I be hired for?

    You can work in almost any job you are qualified for. Your status as a
    refugee or asylee usually should not prevent you from getting a job. If
    you see that an employer only wants to hire U.S. citizens or does not want
    to hire asylees or refugees, this may be illegal discrimination. For
    information about discrimination, see question 3 below or call the
    Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER)

    https://www.justice.gov/media/873071/dl?inline

    People who have been granted asylum or refugee status are *authorized* to work in the U.S.

    You will always be stupid.

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  • From Mitchell Holman@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Fri Aug 25 02:01:32 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:




    A US Company chooses to hire only those legally allowed to work in the
    USA, and the DOJ investigates them. That is beyond bizarre, in fact
    the bureaucrat who thought this one up should be terminated for cause.



    If only the DOJ had investigated
    "legally allowed to be in the US"
    Maria Butina BEFORE she was caught
    spying for Russis while working at
    the NRA..........


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Butina

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 25 01:14:49 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to K Wills on Fri Aug 25 06:40:02 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/2023 2:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.


    If you were an employer and you hired an American citizen to work for
    you, should some woke-tard DOJ lawyer assume you "discriminated" against
    an asylum seeker refugee because you hired an American? Should one
    assume that every illegal alien is even a "refugee" and /or an "asylum
    seeker" rather than an economic migrant? Should an "asylum seeker" have
    more of the backing of the DOJ to find gainful employment than a US
    citizen? Are those Mestizos and Blacks seen crossing the Rio Grande in
    Del Rio or Yuma really rocket scientists?

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    “Appoint a king from among your brothers; you are not to set over
    yourselves a foreigner who is not one of your brothers.” Deuteronomy 17:15

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to K Wills on Fri Aug 25 12:37:19 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 8/25/2023 3:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    Well, Hell yeah! Lets give them top secret clearances and send to jail
    anyone that refuses to hire them. Maybe we could even hire you to
    transport the Clinton's U238 in unmarked paper bag to the Chinese
    leadership.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Yak on Fri Aug 25 15:24:20 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 16:37:34 -0400, Yak <[email protected]> wrote:


    But don�t you effing dare talk about that kooky crazy fascist racist >tin-foil-hat �Great Replacement Theory�

    Then do something about it. Like, have more babies.

    Swill
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    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Fri Aug 25 15:55:56 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    This story is as hollow as they come.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    This might not have been the best reference to make your point.

    "In June 2006, Lee received $1.6 million from the federal government and five media
    organizations as part of a settlement leaking his name to the press before any charges had
    been filed against him.[2]

    "Federal judge James A. Parker eventually apologized to Lee for denying him bail and
    putting him in solitary confinement. He excoriated the government for misconduct and
    misrepresentations to the court.[3] "

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    I always thought companies weren't *allowed* to hire anybody who wasn't legally here and
    entitled to work.

    All that said, it sounds like anti espionage policy.

    Sort of.

    Swill


    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice�s civil rights division has
    filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk�s
    space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against
    asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly �discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company
    by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful >permanent residents� in online job postings. The complaint alleges that
    if asylees and refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely >rejected, and that the company�s discrimination practices were �routine, >widespread, and longstanding.�

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice�s Immigrant and
    Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX�s
    hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the investigation,
    as is protocol, and requested the company�s records, the company
    allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to subpoena the records
    in 2021 and finding a �pattern or practice of unfair immigration-related >employment practices.�

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public
    job advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S.
    citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000 hirings >between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only
    one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under >investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO
    Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the
    company�s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a 2020
    tweet by Musk claiming that �U.S. law requires at least a green card to
    be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons technology.� Musk >reiterated this in various video interviews referenced in the suit,
    citing U.S. export regulations to support his assertion that the company >legally could not hire anyone without a �green card.
    --
    White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
    love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Fri Aug 25 16:03:11 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:40:02 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:


    If you were an employer and you hired an American citizen to work for
    you, should some woke-tard DOJ lawyer assume you "discriminated" against
    an asylum seeker refugee because you hired an American? Should one
    assume that every illegal alien is even a "refugee" and /or an "asylum >seeker" rather than an economic migrant? Should an "asylum seeker" have
    more of the backing of the DOJ to find gainful employment than a US
    citizen? Are those Mestizos and Blacks seen crossing the Rio Grande in
    Del Rio or Yuma really rocket scientists?

    You idiot! What part of, "SpaceX
    allegedly �discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company
    by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful
    permanent residents� in online job postings. " did you not understand?

    They ADVERTISED that they would hire only permanent residents and citizens.

    Then, "Out of more than 10,000 hirings
    between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only
    one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under investigation."

    Fucking Nazis bringing down the curve for the whole country.

    Swill
    --
    White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
    love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Fri Aug 25 15:08:19 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/24/23 18:18, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 8/24/2023 3:58 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 14:53, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party
    and the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have
    to force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has
    filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon
    Musk‘s space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated
    against asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the
    company by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens
    and lawful permanent residents” in online job postings. The complaint
    alleges that if asylees and refugees did apply to work at SpaceX,
    they were routinely rejected, and that the company’s discrimination
    practices were “routine, widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and
    Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s
    hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the
    investigation, as is protocol, and requested the company’s records,
    the company allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to
    subpoena the records in 2021 and finding a “pattern or practice of
    unfair immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public
    job advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S.
    citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000
    hirings between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX
    hired only one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it
    was under investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO
    Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the
    company’s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a
    2020 tweet by Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green
    card to be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons
    technology.” Musk reiterated this in various video interviews
    referenced in the suit, citing U.S. export regulations to support his
    assertion that the company legally could not hire anyone without a
    “green card.


    A US Company chooses to hire only those legally allowed to work in the
    USA, and the DOJ investigates them.

    Why do you work so fucking hard at being stupid?

       If you are a refugee or asylee, you have permanent permission to
    live and
       work in the United States. Several federal laws protect your right
    to work
       regardless of where you live in the United States. This document
    will help
       you learn more about your rights and provide you with the government agency
       to contact if you have questions or problems. Contact information
    for each
       agency is at the bottom of page 2.

       1. What kinds of jobs can I be hired for?

          You can work in almost any job you are qualified for. Your status as a
          refugee or asylee usually should not prevent you from getting a job. If
          you see that an employer only wants to hire U.S. citizens or does not want
          to hire asylees or refugees, this may be illegal discrimination. For
          information about discrimination, see question 3 below or call the
          Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER)

       https://www.justice.gov/media/873071/dl?inline

    People who have been granted asylum or refugee status are *authorized*
    to work in the U.S.

    You will always be stupid.

    People who have been granted asylum, or refugee status are lawful
    residents, while those whose applications are in work, may not be
    legally employed. Who is it that is being stupid?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Fri Aug 25 13:10:57 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/2023 1:08 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 18:18, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 8/24/2023 3:58 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 14:53, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" sailors
    in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and the more >>>> distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead blueprints from Los
    Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to force Space X to hire >>>> "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has filed an
    employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk‘s space
    exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against asylees and >>>> refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX allegedly
    “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company by wrongly
    stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful permanent
    residents” in online job postings. The complaint alleges that if asylees and
    refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely rejected, and that
    the company’s discrimination practices were “routine, widespread, and >>>> longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and Employee
    Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s hiring practices
    in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the investigation, as is protocol, and >>>> requested the company’s records, the company allegedly failed to respond,
    prompting the IER to subpoena the records in 2021 and finding a “pattern or
    practice of unfair immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public job >>>> advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S. citizens or >>>> lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000 hirings between
    September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only one asylee,
    four months after IER informed the company it was under investigation. >>>>
    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO Elon >>>> Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the company’s >>>> discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a 2020 tweet by Musk
    claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green card to be hired at >>>> SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons technology.” Musk reiterated this in
    various video interviews referenced in the suit, citing U.S. export
    regulations to support his assertion that the company legally could not hire
    anyone without a “green card.


    A US Company chooses to hire only those legally allowed to work in the USA, >>> and the DOJ investigates them.

    Why do you work so fucking hard at being stupid?

        If you are a refugee or asylee, you have permanent permission to live and
        work in the United States. Several federal laws protect your right to work
        regardless of where you live in the United States. This document will help
        you learn more about your rights and provide you with the government agency
        to contact if you have questions or problems. Contact information for each
        agency is at the bottom of page 2.

        1. What kinds of jobs can I be hired for?

           You can work in almost any job you are qualified for. Your status as a
           refugee or asylee usually should not prevent you from getting a job. If
           you see that an employer only wants to hire U.S. citizens or does not want
           to hire asylees or refugees, this may be illegal discrimination. For
           information about discrimination, see question 3 below or call the
           Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER)

        https://www.justice.gov/media/873071/dl?inline

    People who have been granted asylum or refugee status are *authorized* to work
    in the U.S.

    You will always be stupid.

    People who have been granted asylum, or refugee status are lawful residents, while those whose applications are in work, may not be legally employed. Who is
    it that is being stupid?

    You. The people whom Musk refused to hire have been granted asylum or refugee status.

    You're still working assiduously at being stupid, and you're succeeding.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Michael A Terrell@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Aug 25 13:11:09 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/2023 1:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:40:02 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:


    If you were an employer and you hired an American citizen to work for
    you, should some woke-tard DOJ lawyer assume you "discriminated" against
    an asylum seeker refugee because you hired an American? Should one
    assume that every illegal alien is even a "refugee" and /or an "asylum
    seeker" rather than an economic migrant? Should an "asylum seeker" have
    more of the backing of the DOJ to find gainful employment than a US
    citizen? Are those Mestizos and Blacks seen crossing the Rio Grande in
    Del Rio or Yuma really rocket scientists?

    You idiot! What part of, "SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company
    by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents” in online job postings. " did you not understand?

    They ADVERTISED that they would hire only permanent residents and citizens.

    Then, "Out of more than 10,000 hirings
    between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only
    one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under investigation."

    Fucking Nazis bringing down the curve for the whole country.

    Asylees (I don't like the word, but it is used) and refugees are *authorized* to
    work in the U.S.


    If you are a refugee or asylee, you have permanent permission to live and
    *work* in the United States. Several federal laws protect your right to work
    regardless of where you live in the United States. This document will help
    you learn more about your rights and provide you with the government agency
    to contact if you have questions or problems. Contact information for each
    agency is at the bottom of page 2.

    1. What kinds of jobs can I be hired for?

    You can work in almost any job you are qualified for. Your status as a
    refugee or asylee usually should not prevent you from getting a job. If
    you see that an employer only wants to hire U.S. citizens or does not want
    to hire asylees or refugees, this may be illegal discrimination. For
    information about discrimination, see question 3 below or call the
    Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER)

    https://www.justice.gov/media/873071/dl?inline


    *Why* do the fucking Nazis work so hard at being stupid?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Fri Aug 25 14:47:14 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/2023 2:10 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 1:08 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 18:18, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 8/24/2023 3:58 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 14:53, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party
    and the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear
    warhead blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the
    DOJ have to force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees"
    other than to sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has >>>>> filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon
    Musk‘s space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated
    against asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the
    company by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens
    and lawful permanent residents” in online job postings. The
    complaint alleges that if asylees and refugees did apply to work at
    SpaceX, they were routinely rejected, and that the company’s
    discrimination practices were “routine, widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and >>>>> Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s >>>>> hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the
    investigation, as is protocol, and requested the company’s records, >>>>> the company allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to
    subpoena the records in 2021 and finding a “pattern or practice of >>>>> unfair immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14
    public job advertisements stating that the company could only hire
    U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than
    10,000 hirings between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit
    alleges, SpaceX hired only one asylee, four months after IER
    informed the company it was under investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and
    CEO Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing
    the company’s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one
    example a 2020 tweet by Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at
    least a green card to be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced
    weapons technology.” Musk reiterated this in various video
    interviews referenced in the suit, citing U.S. export regulations
    to support his assertion that the company legally could not hire
    anyone without a “green card.


    A US Company chooses to hire only those legally allowed to work in
    the USA, and the DOJ investigates them.

    Why do you work so fucking hard at being stupid?

        If you are a refugee or asylee, you have permanent permission to
    live and
        work in the United States. Several federal laws protect your
    right to work
        regardless of where you live in the United States. This document
    will help
        you learn more about your rights and provide you with the
    government agency
        to contact if you have questions or problems. Contact information >>> for each
        agency is at the bottom of page 2.

        1. What kinds of jobs can I be hired for?

           You can work in almost any job you are qualified for. Your
    status as a
           refugee or asylee usually should not prevent you from getting >>> a job. If
           you see that an employer only wants to hire U.S. citizens or >>> does not want
           to hire asylees or refugees, this may be illegal
    discrimination. For
           information about discrimination, see question 3 below or call >>> the
           Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER)

        https://www.justice.gov/media/873071/dl?inline

    People who have been granted asylum or refugee status are
    *authorized* to work in the U.S.

    You will always be stupid.

    People who have been granted asylum, or refugee status are lawful
    residents, while those whose applications are in work, may not be
    legally employed. Who is it that is being stupid?

    You.  The people whom Musk refused to hire have been granted asylum or refugee status.

    You're still working assiduously at being stupid, and you're succeeding.


    Calling other posters "stupid" is the kind of slur a 5 year old would
    make to one of his or her peers when "debating". Try to enter the
    conversation at a more mature level for the benefit of others.

    The DOJ is arguing that "asylum seekers" like Dzhokhar Anzorovich
    Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, for example, should be given Top Secret clearances and hired to work at Space X over an equally qualified U.S.
    citizen merely because they were granted political asylum. There is no
    basis, such as righting past wrongs, for the DOJ to force Elon Musk to
    hire foreigners over American Citizens. The lawsuit seems like more
    woketard insanity meant to punish Elon Musk for exposing the Deep
    State's involvement with censoring speech at Twitter in a manner similar
    to STASI in the former East Germany.


    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    “Appoint a king from among your brothers; you are not to set over
    yourselves a foreigner who is not one of your brothers.” Deuteronomy 17:15

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Fri Aug 25 17:35:30 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    The DOJ is arguing that "asylum seekers" like Dzhokhar Anzorovich
    Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev, for example, should be given Top
    Secret clearances and hired to work at Space X over an equally
    qualified U.S. citizen merely because they were granted political
    asylum. There is no basis, such as righting past wrongs, for the
    DOJ to force Elon Musk to hire foreigners over American Citizens.
    The lawsuit seems like more woketard insanity meant to punish Elon
    Musk for exposing the Deep State's involvement with censoring
    speech at Twitter in a manner similar to STASI in the former East
    Germany.

    Offer your legal expertise to the court action against Musk.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Fri Aug 25 21:31:32 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/2023 9:23 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:

    If you had read on further, you would see that Wen Ho Lee was later
    convicted of espionage and sent to prison.

    I should have done more research before I hit <send>. I apologize for
    my sloppiness in making this false claim. Here is the truth of the matter:

    Lee pleaded guilty to one felony count of illegal "retention" of
    "national defense information". In return, the government released him
    from jail and dropped the other 58 counts against him. Judge Parker
    apologized to Dr. Lee for the unfair manner in which he was treated. The
    judge also regretted being misled by the executive branch into ordering
    Dr. Lee's detention, stating that he was led astray by the Department of Justice, by its FBI, and by its United States attorney. He formally
    denounced the government for abuse of power in its prosecution of the case.[19][20][21] Later, President Bill Clinton remarked that he had
    been "troubled" by the way Dr. Lee was treated.[22][23][24][9]
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Aug 25 21:23:08 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/2023 1:55 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    This story is as hollow as they come.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    This might not have been the best reference to make your point.

    "In June 2006, Lee received $1.6 million from the federal government and five media
    organizations as part of a settlement leaking his name to the press before any charges had
    been filed against him.[2]

    "Federal judge James A. Parker eventually apologized to Lee for denying him bail and
    putting him in solitary confinement. He excoriated the government for misconduct and
    misrepresentations to the court.[3] "

    If you had read on further, you would see that Wen Ho Lee was later
    convicted of espionage and sent to prison.


    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    I always thought companies weren't *allowed* to hire anybody who wasn't legally here and
    entitled to work.

    All that said, it sounds like anti espionage policy.

    Sort of.

    Swill


    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has
    filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk‘s
    space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against
    asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company >> by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful
    permanent residents” in online job postings. The complaint alleges that
    if asylees and refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely
    rejected, and that the company’s discrimination practices were “routine, >> widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and
    Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s
    hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the investigation,
    as is protocol, and requested the company’s records, the company
    allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to subpoena the records
    in 2021 and finding a “pattern or practice of unfair immigration-related >> employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public
    job advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S.
    citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000 hirings
    between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only
    one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under
    investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO
    Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the
    company’s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a 2020
    tweet by Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green card to
    be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons technology.” Musk
    reiterated this in various video interviews referenced in the suit,
    citing U.S. export regulations to support his assertion that the company
    legally could not hire anyone without a “green card.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 26 00:57:47 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:40:02 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 2:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.


    If you were an employer and you hired an American citizen to work for
    you, should some woke-tard DOJ lawyer assume you "discriminated" against
    an asylum seeker refugee because you hired an American? Should one
    assume that every illegal alien is even a "refugee" and /or an "asylum >seeker" rather than an economic migrant? Should an "asylum seeker" have
    more of the backing of the DOJ to find gainful employment than a US
    citizen? Are those Mestizos and Blacks seen crossing the Rio Grande in
    Del Rio or Yuma really rocket scientists?

    Your attempt to divert from your initial claim has failed. The
    allegation is that SpaceX discriminated by discouraging some of those
    who are legally allowed to work in the U.S. to even apply.
    Those in charge at SpaceX announced, via on-line postings,
    "...that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful permanent
    residents..."
    The problem appears to be that the claim is false. And, based on
    the company's reaction upon being told its under investigation, those
    in charge knew it was false.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Sat Aug 26 05:21:29 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 21:23:08 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:55 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    This story is as hollow as they come.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    This might not have been the best reference to make your point.

    "In June 2006, Lee received $1.6 million from the federal government and five media
    organizations as part of a settlement leaking his name to the press before any charges had
    been filed against him.[2]

    "Federal judge James A. Parker eventually apologized to Lee for denying him bail and
    putting him in solitary confinement. He excoriated the government for misconduct and
    misrepresentations to the court.[3] "

    If you had read on further, you would see that Wen Ho Lee was later
    convicted of espionage and sent to prison.

    And if you read beyond that you'll find that he was released because it was a bogus
    conviction. That's when the judge apologized and Bill Clinton said he was "troubled" by
    the way Lee had been treated. Lee eventually received a large settlement.

    The government reclassified some info Lee had access to in order to make it a crime to
    possess, charged him with illegal "retention" (much like Trump) but ultimately dropped 58
    of 59 counts in a plea deal.

    "He also charges that his Asian ethnicity was a primary factor behind his prosecution by
    the government. As evidence of such racial profiling, he cited cases of several scientists
    of non-Han Chinese ancestry who were responsible for similar security transgressions but
    were able to continue their careers. Former FBI Director Louis Freeh categorically denied
    these charges.

    "Lee was compensated with a $1.6 million settlement from the U.S. federal government and
    five news organizations for privacy violations. A condition of the United States portion
    of the settlement, $895,000, is that it is to be applied only to lawyer's fees and the
    taxes on the media's payments, since the government insisted that they would not pay
    anything that would be perceived as damages to Lee."

    Lee currently lives in Albuquerque NM with his wife and family.

    Swill
    --
    White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
    love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sat Aug 26 07:00:53 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/26/2023 6:38 AM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/25/23 15:10, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 1:08 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 18:18, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 8/24/2023 3:58 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 14:53, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to sabotage
    the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has filed
    an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon Musk‘s space >>>>>> exploration company, alleging that it discriminated against asylees and >>>>>> refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX >>>>>> allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company
    by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful >>>>>> permanent residents” in online job postings. The complaint alleges that if
    asylees and refugees did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely >>>>>> rejected, and that the company’s discrimination practices were “routine,
    widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and >>>>>> Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s hiring
    practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the investigation, as is >>>>>> protocol, and requested the company’s records, the company allegedly >>>>>> failed to respond, prompting the IER to subpoena the records in 2021 and >>>>>> finding a “pattern or practice of unfair immigration-related employment
    practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14 public job
    advertisements stating that the company could only hire U.S. citizens or >>>>>> lawful permanent residents. Out of more than 10,000 hirings between >>>>>> September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only one >>>>>> asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under
    investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and CEO Elon
    Musk has a history of making public statements referencing the company’s
    discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one example a 2020 tweet by >>>>>> Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at least a green card to be hired at
    SpaceX, as rockets are advanced weapons technology.” Musk reiterated this
    in various video interviews referenced in the suit, citing U.S. export >>>>>> regulations to support his assertion that the company legally could not >>>>>> hire anyone without a “green card.


    A US Company chooses to hire only those legally allowed to work in the USA,
    and the DOJ investigates them.

    Why do you work so fucking hard at being stupid?

        If you are a refugee or asylee, you have permanent permission to live and
        work in the United States. Several federal laws protect your right to work
        regardless of where you live in the United States. This document will help
        you learn more about your rights and provide you with the government agency
        to contact if you have questions or problems. Contact information for each
        agency is at the bottom of page 2.

        1. What kinds of jobs can I be hired for?

           You can work in almost any job you are qualified for. Your status as a
           refugee or asylee usually should not prevent you from getting a job. If
           you see that an employer only wants to hire U.S. citizens or does not
    want
           to hire asylees or refugees, this may be illegal discrimination. For
           information about discrimination, see question 3 below or call the
           Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER)

        https://www.justice.gov/media/873071/dl?inline

    People who have been granted asylum or refugee status are *authorized* to >>>> work in the U.S.

    You will always be stupid.

    People who have been granted asylum, or refugee status are lawful residents,
    while those whose applications are in work, may not be legally employed. Who
    is it that is being stupid?

    You.  The people whom Musk refused to hire have been granted asylum or refugee
    status.

    You're still working assiduously at being stupid, and you're succeeding.

    Being called stupid by you is almost a complement [sic]

    It's spelled *compliment*, you stupid fuck. "Complement" means something else.

    That was a lame, empty troll, and also a concession of defeat. You didn't have anything to say, but you insisted on saying something. You *are* stupid, because I already explained to you that the people whom Musk refused to consider
    have *already* been granted asylum or refugee status, so they are authorized to work in the U.S., and Musk is violating the law. I instructed you on it, and *still* you said something stupid.

    You're stupid, and you always will be.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Lou Bricano on Sat Aug 26 08:38:25 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/23 15:10, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 1:08 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 18:18, Lou Bricano wrote:
    On 8/24/2023 3:58 PM, David Hartung wrote:
    On 8/24/23 14:53, Lucas McCain wrote:
    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party
    and the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear
    warhead blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the
    DOJ have to force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees"
    other than to sabotage the program?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/scientists-americas-top-nuclear-lab-recruited-china-design-missiles-dr-rcna48834

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wen_Ho_Lee

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    THE UNITED STATES Department of Justice’s civil rights division has >>>>> filed an employment discrimination lawsuit against SpaceX, Elon
    Musk‘s space exploration company, alleging that it discriminated
    against asylees and refugees in its hiring practices.

    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the
    company by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens
    and lawful permanent residents” in online job postings. The
    complaint alleges that if asylees and refugees did apply to work at
    SpaceX, they were routinely rejected, and that the company’s
    discrimination practices were “routine, widespread, and longstanding.”

    The complaint states that the Department of Justice’s Immigrant and >>>>> Employee Rights Section (IER) opened an investigation into SpaceX’s >>>>> hiring practices in 2020. When it informed SpaceX of the
    investigation, as is protocol, and requested the company’s records, >>>>> the company allegedly failed to respond, prompting the IER to
    subpoena the records in 2021 and finding a “pattern or practice of >>>>> unfair immigration-related employment practices.”

    According to the suit, between 2018 and 2022, SpaceX posted 14
    public job advertisements stating that the company could only hire
    U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents. Out of more than
    10,000 hirings between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit
    alleges, SpaceX hired only one asylee, four months after IER
    informed the company it was under investigation.

    In addition to these postings, the suit alleges that founder and
    CEO Elon Musk has a history of making public statements referencing
    the company’s discriminatory hiring practices, citing as one
    example a 2020 tweet by Musk claiming that “U.S. law requires at
    least a green card to be hired at SpaceX, as rockets are advanced
    weapons technology.” Musk reiterated this in various video
    interviews referenced in the suit, citing U.S. export regulations
    to support his assertion that the company legally could not hire
    anyone without a “green card.


    A US Company chooses to hire only those legally allowed to work in
    the USA, and the DOJ investigates them.

    Why do you work so fucking hard at being stupid?

        If you are a refugee or asylee, you have permanent permission to
    live and
        work in the United States. Several federal laws protect your
    right to work
        regardless of where you live in the United States. This document
    will help
        you learn more about your rights and provide you with the
    government agency
        to contact if you have questions or problems. Contact information >>> for each
        agency is at the bottom of page 2.

        1. What kinds of jobs can I be hired for?

           You can work in almost any job you are qualified for. Your
    status as a
           refugee or asylee usually should not prevent you from getting >>> a job. If
           you see that an employer only wants to hire U.S. citizens or >>> does not want
           to hire asylees or refugees, this may be illegal
    discrimination. For
           information about discrimination, see question 3 below or call >>> the
           Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER)

        https://www.justice.gov/media/873071/dl?inline

    People who have been granted asylum or refugee status are
    *authorized* to work in the U.S.

    You will always be stupid.

    People who have been granted asylum, or refugee status are lawful
    residents, while those whose applications are in work, may not be
    legally employed. Who is it that is being stupid?

    You.  The people whom Musk refused to hire have been granted asylum or refugee status.

    You're still working assiduously at being stupid, and you're succeeding.

    Being called stupid by you is almost a complement.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mike Colangelo@21:1/5 to K Wills on Sat Aug 26 08:58:07 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to K Wills on Sat Aug 26 09:34:09 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/26/2023 1:57 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:40:02 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 2:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.


    If you were an employer and you hired an American citizen to work for
    you, should some woke-tard DOJ lawyer assume you "discriminated" against
    an asylum seeker refugee because you hired an American? Should one
    assume that every illegal alien is even a "refugee" and /or an "asylum
    seeker" rather than an economic migrant? Should an "asylum seeker" have
    more of the backing of the DOJ to find gainful employment than a US
    citizen? Are those Mestizos and Blacks seen crossing the Rio Grande in
    Del Rio or Yuma really rocket scientists?

    Your attempt to divert from your initial claim has failed. The allegation is that SpaceX discriminated by discouraging some of those
    who are legally allowed to work in the U.S. to even apply.
    Those in charge at SpaceX announced, via on-line postings,
    "...that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful permanent residents..."
    The problem appears to be that the claim is false. And, based on
    the company's reaction upon being told its under investigation, those
    in charge knew it was false.


    And what exactly is wrong with Space X hiring only U.S. citizens or
    "lawful permanent residents" to work for Space X, aside from the claim
    that "asylum seekers" have a "right" to work for Space X that has you
    all in a "tizzy"? Is this a good use of taxpayer money to force a
    highly successful and competitive U.S. corporation to bleed money to pay attorneys to defend their hiring practices? What is the real reason the
    Biden Administration is so bent on replacing highly competent and
    skilled American workers with "asylum seekers"? Is this their trumpeted
    Build Back Better nonsense?

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Sat Aug 26 09:52:07 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    And what exactly is wrong with Space X hiring only U.S. citizens
    or "lawful permanent residents"

    Other than it is illegal and a tort, not much.

    money to force a highly successful and competitive U.S.
    corporation to bleed money to pay attorneys to defend their hiring
    practices?

    Musk doesn't need to defend the tort. He can accept summary judgement.

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Sat Aug 26 14:20:11 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:34:09 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    And what exactly is wrong with Space X hiring only U.S. citizens or
    "lawful permanent residents" to work for Space X, aside from the claim
    that "asylum seekers" have a "right" to work for Space X that has you
    all in a "tizzy"?

    It's the law.

    The 14th Amendment provides equal protection under the law to all persons within state
    borders.

    https://www.senate.gov/about/origins-foundations/senate-and-constitution/14th-amendment.htm

    Section 1.

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction
    thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state
    shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens
    of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or
    property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the
    equal protection of the laws.

    Additionally, "Refugees and asylees are employment eligible incident to their status and
    are authorized to work indefinitely because their immigration status does not expire."
    <https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/form-i-9-resources/handbook-for-employers-m-274/70-evidence-of-employment-authorization-for-certain-categories/73-refugees-and-asylees>

    "Handbook for Employers M-274

    7.3 Refugees and Asylees

    Refugees and asylees are employment eligible incident to their status and are authorized
    to work indefinitely because their immigration status does not expire. They may present
    any List A document or a combination of List B and List C documents from the Form I-9
    Lists of Acceptable Documents to demonstrate identity and employment authorization.
    Employees may also present an acceptable receipt instead of the List A, B or C document.
    For more information about receipts, including the receipts refugees and asylees may
    present, see the information below in this section or Section 4.4, Acceptable Receipts.

    Refugees

    Upon admission to the United States, DHS provides refugees with a Form I-94, Arrival/Departure Record, which does not expire."

    Swill
    --
    White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
    love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Michael A Terrell on Sat Aug 26 17:45:10 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/25/2023 2:11 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 1:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:40:02 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:


    If you were an employer and you hired an American citizen to work for
    you, should some woke-tard DOJ lawyer assume you "discriminated" against >>> an asylum seeker refugee because you hired an American? Should one
    assume that every illegal alien is even a "refugee" and /or an "asylum
    seeker" rather than an economic migrant?  Should an "asylum seeker" have >>> more of the backing of the DOJ to find gainful employment than a US
    citizen?  Are those Mestizos and Blacks seen crossing the Rio Grande in >>> Del Rio or Yuma really rocket scientists?

    You idiot!  What part of, "SpaceX
    allegedly “discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the company >> by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful
    permanent residents” in online job postings. " did you not understand?

    They ADVERTISED that they would hire only permanent residents and
    citizens.

    Then, "Out of more than 10,000 hirings
    between September 2018 and May 2022, the suit alleges, SpaceX hired only
    one asylee, four months after IER informed the company it was under
    investigation."

    Fucking Nazis bringing down the curve for the whole country.

    Asylees (I don't like the word, but it is used) and refugees are
    *authorized* to work in the U.S.


       If you are a refugee or asylee, you have permanent permission to
    live and
       *work* in the United States. Several federal laws protect your right
    to work
       regardless of where you live in the United States. This document
    will help
       you learn more about your rights and provide you with the government agency
       to contact if you have questions or problems. Contact information
    for each
       agency is at the bottom of page 2.

       1. What kinds of jobs can I be hired for?

          You can work in almost any job you are qualified for. Your status as a
          refugee or asylee usually should not prevent you from getting a job. If
          you see that an employer only wants to hire U.S. citizens or does not want
          to hire asylees or refugees, this may be illegal discrimination. For
          information about discrimination, see question 3 below or call the
          Immigrant and Employee Rights Section (IER)

       https://www.justice.gov/media/873071/dl?inline


    Each week, on Fridays, I have been invited to listen to a half hour of
    American First Legal current activities. They are rather like a
    conservative ACLU and have been doing some really great work.

    This is one of the most critical cases: August 24th, 2023

    This week, America First Legal was in federal court in Texas, litigating
    one of the most important cases in the country. We are co-counsel to the
    State of Texas and partnering with a coalition of 20 states to stop the
    most extreme of Biden’s open borders policies. The epicenter of Biden’s open borders scheme is the illegal use of “parole” to import hundreds of thousands of illegals into the country. In other words, Biden is not
    merely suspending the enforcement of immigration law, but he is actively escorting inadmissible aliens, who are not present at a border or port
    of entry, into the interior of the United States for up to two years.
    This is the largest executive amnesty program in history. These
    unauthorized aliens will not only have a form of legal status and
    deportation immunity but also the ability to become permanent residents
    with green cards (and thus a path to citizenship). Not content with the immigration and visa laws passed by Congress, Biden has, through
    imperial decree, created his own visa for illegals — the most radical
    and lawless border nullification scheme in history. If he is successful,
    it’s the end of all immigration control. Our case seeks to shut down
    this illegal and unconstitutional program.

    https://aflegal.org/america-first-legal-partnering-with-texas-and-20-states-heads-to-trial-to-stop-bidens-most-extreme-open-borders-scheme/

    *Why* do the fucking Nazis work so hard at being stupid?


    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Sat Aug 26 20:34:41 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 17:45:10 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is the largest executive amnesty program in history.

    I know that's a lie. Maybe biggest in your lifetime if you were born since Reagan left
    office.

    Swill
    --
    White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
    love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 27 00:22:10 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted >asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in effect.

    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally discourage such people from applying.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Sun Aug 27 02:52:31 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 8/26/2023 6:45 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 2:11 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 1:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:40:02 -0600, Lucas McCain
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    his illegal and unconstitutional program.

    https://aflegal.org/america-first-legal-partnering-with-texas-and-20-states-heads-to-trial-to-stop-bidens-most-extreme-open-borders-scheme/

    *Why* do the fucking Nazis work so hard at being stupid?


    When the Hell are the real American citizens going to wake up to the
    fact that the Democratic criminal organized crime is our worst enemy and
    NOT the Chinese, Russians, and Iranians. Talking an legislation is a
    waste of time and goes nowhere. Another attack on our Constitution
    regarding %1000 tax on firearms. It will be of course by Order or
    Riechsleader Biden. Their Gestapo is very busy making up false and
    malicious charges against any and all that were supporters,employees etc
    of Donald Trump. When did the executive order become the presidents
    right to make laws. Folks it is time to take this present leadership to
    task. Next the SOB's will be assassinating any and all that oppose their corruption. Using of course the Russian style of poisons and radiation.
    Since it has worked so well for their mentors in Russia. We have native
    Sons & Daughters fighting and dying on foreign fields to make other
    nations free. It is damned well time that we make our own National
    Republic free and something to be proud of. Instead of the embarrassing
    and broke Nation that we now are. God Bless America and Damned the
    Democrats and their camp followers(ilk)! I was born in a free
    country(America) and I would delight in have my generational progeny
    having that same right. I remember when migrants came to this country in
    an organized method and came for the opportunity to better themselves.
    NOT because it was now open borders and everything free!!!! Paid for bhy
    the American Black, White and Tan taxpayers of our Homeland.
    bnVsbA==

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 27 00:21:57 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 09:34:09 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/26/2023 1:57 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:40:02 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 2:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.


    If you were an employer and you hired an American citizen to work for
    you, should some woke-tard DOJ lawyer assume you "discriminated" against >>> an asylum seeker refugee because you hired an American? Should one
    assume that every illegal alien is even a "refugee" and /or an "asylum
    seeker" rather than an economic migrant? Should an "asylum seeker" have >>> more of the backing of the DOJ to find gainful employment than a US
    citizen? Are those Mestizos and Blacks seen crossing the Rio Grande in
    Del Rio or Yuma really rocket scientists?

    Your attempt to divert from your initial claim has failed. The
    allegation is that SpaceX discriminated by discouraging some of those
    who are legally allowed to work in the U.S. to even apply.
    Those in charge at SpaceX announced, via on-line postings,
    "...that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and lawful permanent
    residents..."
    The problem appears to be that the claim is false. And, based on
    the company's reaction upon being told its under investigation, those
    in charge knew it was false.


    And what exactly is wrong with Space X hiring only U.S. citizens or
    "lawful permanent residents" to work for Space X, aside from the claim
    that "asylum seekers" have a "right" to work for Space X that has you
    all in a "tizzy"? Is this a good use of taxpayer money to force a
    highly successful and competitive U.S. corporation to bleed money to pay >attorneys to defend their hiring practices? What is the real reason the
    Biden Administration is so bent on replacing highly competent and
    skilled American workers with "asylum seekers"? Is this their trumpeted >Build Back Better nonsense?

    Please focus on the accusation made. SpaceX is accused of
    illegally discouraged certain demographics from applying and lying as
    to why. If people aren't applying, there is no chance of their being
    hired.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Rudy Crayola@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Aug 27 02:54:24 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/26/2023 7:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 17:45:10 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is the largest executive amnesty program in history.

    I know that's a lie. Maybe biggest in your lifetime if you were born since Reagan left
    office.

    Swill

    Stuff it up you useless, Swill.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to K Wills on Sun Aug 27 03:03:33 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 8/27/2023 2:22 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect.

    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally discourage such people from applying.

    Why would they hire anyone without a Security clearance or at least
    highly bond-able and with little or no experience or education on a
    project that is basically classified. Or even with processes and designs
    that could be stolen and peddled to our enemies/competition. Did you see today's border cams of young heavily armed men crossing into Texas?
    I bet they were here to apply for your job.

    bnVsbA==

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to K Wills on Sun Aug 27 07:47:49 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect.

    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Rudy Crayola on Sun Aug 27 10:52:33 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 02:54:24 -0500, Rudy Crayola <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/26/2023 7:34 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 17:45:10 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    This is the largest executive amnesty program in history.

    I know that's a lie. Maybe biggest in your lifetime if you were born since Reagan left
    office.

    Swill

    Stuff it up you useless, Swill.

    "Stuff it up you useless, Swill" [sic]

    Pissed off because I spotted one of your lame lies *again*?

    Swill
    --
    White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
    love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Aug 27 11:25:25 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in effect. >>
    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    *sigh* Another bigot.

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED. If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Swill
    --
    White racists, hate Lincoln, no longer support race rights, no longer reject slavery,
    love violence, hate love, fake christians . . . the hard right are the real RINOS.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Aug 27 10:52:55 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/27/23 10:25, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>>>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect.

    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    *sigh* Another bigot.

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED.

    The article does not so state.

    If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Really? Then why do we read of raids on businesses hiring people not
    allowed to work?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Elsan@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Sun Aug 27 09:31:13 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/27/2023 1:03 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 2:22 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:

    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

           Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are.  For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect. >>
          That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally >> discourage such people from applying.

    Why would they hire anyone without a Security clearance or at least highly bond-able and with little or no experience or education on a
    project that is basically classified.

    You stupid draft-dodging impotent fuck. There are *lots* of jobs at the company
    that don't require any security clearance. The company is illegally refusing even to talk with people who are *eligible* to work in the U.S.

    You're going to be put into a camp and tortured, you fucking gutless nutless draft dodger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Elsan@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Sun Aug 27 09:29:33 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/27/2023 12:52 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 8/26/2023 6:45 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 2:11 PM, Michael A Terrell wrote:
    On 8/25/2023 1:03 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:40:02 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:
    his illegal and unconstitutional program.

    https://aflegal.org/america-first-legal-partnering-with-texas-and-20-states-heads-to-trial-to-stop-bidens-most-extreme-open-borders-scheme/

    *Why* do the fucking Nazis work so hard at being stupid?


    When the Hell are the real American citizens going to wake up to the fact that
    the Democratic criminal organized crime is our worst enemy and NOT the Chinese,
    Russians, and Iranians. Talking an legislation is a waste of time and goes nowhere. Another attack on our Constitution

    You are going to be rounded into camps and tortured for your attacks on the Constitution, you fucking draft dodger.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Sun Aug 27 17:14:46 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/27/2023 9:25 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>>>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect.

    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    *sigh* Another bigot.

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED. If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Swill

    You mean people like those Saudis who flew planes into the Twin Towers
    and the Pentagon on 9-11? Or people like Sirhan Sirhan?

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to David Elsan on Sun Aug 27 17:12:15 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/27/2023 10:31 AM, David Elsan wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 1:03 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 2:22 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist
    Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ
    have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

           Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those >>>>> with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are.  For all intents and purposes, those who have formally
    been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in
    effect.

          That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally >>> discourage such people from applying.

    Why would they hire anyone without a Security clearance or at least
    highly bond-able and with little or no experience or education on a
    project that is basically classified.

    You stupid draft-dodging impotent fuck.  There are *lots* of jobs at the company that don't require any security clearance.  The company is
    illegally refusing even to talk with people who are *eligible* to work
    in the U.S.

    You're going to be put into a camp and tortured, you fucking gutless
    nutless draft dodger.


    I'll bet you have framed photographs of Pol Pot and Idi Amin DaDa and
    Kim Jong Il in your home and can recite the writings of Lin Biao by
    heart. You can probably quote directly from the writings of Papa Doc and
    Robert Mugabe -- your heroes and political inspirations.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to David Hartung on Sun Aug 27 19:47:46 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:52:55 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/23 10:25, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead >>>>>>> blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to >>>>>>> sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in effect. >>>>
    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally >>>> discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    *sigh* Another bigot.

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED.

    The article does not so state.

    Yes. It does.

    "The complaint alleges that if did apply to work at SpaceX, they were routinely
    rejected,"

    It doesn't state, "applicants", it states simply "asylees and refugees". They can't be
    either if they aren't approved.

    Further, that there was a case at all indicates the persons being rejected and/or driven
    away, were legally eligible for employment.

    If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Really? Then why do we read of raids on businesses hiring people not
    allowed to work?

    Those people are not asylees and refugees.

    You really are a bigot aren't you? You simply won't allow yourself to see any facts that
    would throw doubts on your preconceived ideas.

    Swill
    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Sun Aug 27 19:08:58 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED.
    If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Swill

    You mean people like those Saudis who flew planes into the Twin
    Towers and the Pentagon on 9-11?

    They didn't have that visa and didn't work for anyone.

    Or people like Sirhan Sirhan

    He shot Bobby because Musk wouldn't hire him?

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Siri Cruise on Sun Aug 27 21:42:05 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/27/2023 8:08 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
    Lucas McCain wrote:

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED. If they
    weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Swill

    You mean people like those Saudis who flew planes into the Twin Towers
    and the Pentagon on 9-11?

    They didn't have that visa and didn't work for anyone.

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly
    planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank and
    file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials. I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in Arizona without a visa and passport.


    Or people like Sirhan Sirhan

    He shot Bobby because Musk wouldn't hire him?


    My point is that just because an alien (foreigner) has a visa or
    passport or green card, that doesn't mean that they can't cause trouble
    in the USA. If Sirhan Sirhan had been denied permission to be in the
    USA, Robert F. Kennedy may have very well been elected President of the
    United States, sparing us the Nixon years.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Mon Aug 28 00:27:36 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 03:03:33 -0500, PaxPerPoten <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/2023 2:22 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in effect. >>
    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    Why would they hire anyone without a Security clearance or at least
    highly bond-able and with little or no experience or education on a
    project that is basically classified.

    The allegation isn't regarding hiring. The claim is SpaceX
    illegally discouraged people who can be legally employed from
    applying.
    Is there a specific reason you're trying to divert from this?

    Or even with processes and designs
    that could be stolen and peddled to our enemies/competition. Did you see >today's border cams of young heavily armed men crossing into Texas?

    I did not. Can you offer a valid, credible cite?

    I bet they were here to apply for your job.

    While it is *possible* any immigrant, legal or not, could apply
    for my job, it's not too likely. But let them apply. If I should
    leave, for whatever reason, they may even get hired.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 00:29:08 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 10:52:55 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/27/23 10:25, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead >>>>>>> blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to >>>>>>> sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in effect. >>>>
    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally >>>> discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    *sigh* Another bigot.

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED.

    The article does not so state.


    According to the suit, between September 2018 and May 2022, SpaceX
    allegedly �discouraged asylees and refugees from applying to the
    company by wrongly stating that SpaceX can only hire U.S. citizens and
    lawful permanent residents� in online job postings.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/spacex-sued-doj-discriminating-refusgees-1234811782/

    If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Really? Then why do we read of raids on businesses hiring people not
    allowed to work?

    When was SpaceX raided? Please include the cite(s) you have when
    you answer. Since SpaceX is the company being commented on, you must
    mean it. Or you are being deceptive?

    [Cue you either running away from the truth, or attempting to divert
    from it.]

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 00:28:19 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in effect. >>
    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    If so, then no laws have been violated. But the way the initial
    article reads, the allegation is in regards to trying to prevent those
    with refugee/asylum status to even apply.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 10:04:32 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:14:46 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/2023 9:25 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead >>>>>>> blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to >>>>>>> sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in effect. >>>>
    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally >>>> discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    *sigh* Another bigot.

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED. If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Swill

    You mean people like those Saudis who flew planes into the Twin Towers
    and the Pentagon on 9-11? Or people like Sirhan Sirhan?

    No, I'm talking about approved refugees and asylees. Your above were neither.

    Swill
    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 10:03:54 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:14:46 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/2023 9:25 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead >>>>>>> blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to >>>>>>> sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in effect. >>>>
    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally >>>> discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    *sigh* Another bigot.

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED. If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Swill

    You mean people like those Saudis who flew planes into the Twin Towers
    and the Pentagon on 9-11? Or people like Sirhan Sirhan?

    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 10:06:42 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly
    planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank and
    file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials. I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in Arizona >without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from Mastercard.

    Swill
    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 10:10:42 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:12:15 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/2023 10:31 AM, David Elsan wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 1:03 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 2:22 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity.� With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist
    Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead >>>>>>> blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ
    have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to >>>>>>> sabotage the program?

    [...]

    ������ Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those >>>>>> with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are.� For all intents and purposes, those who have formally
    been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards � not literally, but in
    effect.

    ����� That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally >>>> discourage such people from applying.

    Why would they hire anyone without a Security clearance or at least
    highly bond-able and with little or no experience or education on a
    project that is basically classified.

    You stupid draft-dodging impotent fuck.� There are *lots* of jobs at the
    company that don't require any security clearance.� The company is
    illegally refusing even to talk with people who are *eligible* to work
    in the U.S.

    You're going to be put into a camp and tortured, you fucking gutless
    nutless draft dodger.


    I'll bet you have framed photographs of Pol Pot and Idi Amin DaDa and
    Kim Jong Il in your home and can recite the writings of Lin Biao by
    heart. You can probably quote directly from the writings of Papa Doc and >Robert Mugabe -- your heroes and political inspirations.

    As long as the end result is you being tortured to death in a camp, who cares what he
    reads?

    Swill
    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Aug 28 12:31:20 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 8:10 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:12:15 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/2023 10:31 AM, David Elsan wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 1:03 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 2:22 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> >>>>> wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist
    Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead >>>>>>>> blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ >>>>>>>> have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to >>>>>>>> sabotage the program?

    [...]

           Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those
    with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are.  For all intents and purposes, those who have formally
    been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in >>>>>> effect.

          That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    Why would they hire anyone without a Security clearance or at least
    highly bond-able and with little or no experience or education on a
    project that is basically classified.

    You stupid draft-dodging impotent fuck.  There are *lots* of jobs at the >>> company that don't require any security clearance.  The company is
    illegally refusing even to talk with people who are *eligible* to work
    in the U.S.

    You're going to be put into a camp and tortured, you fucking gutless
    nutless draft dodger.


    I'll bet you have framed photographs of Pol Pot and Idi Amin DaDa and
    Kim Jong Il in your home and can recite the writings of Lin Biao by
    heart. You can probably quote directly from the writings of Papa Doc and
    Robert Mugabe -- your heroes and political inspirations.

    As long as the end result is you being tortured to death in a camp, who cares what he
    reads?

    As much as I disliked Senator John McCain (who was tortured by his
    captors in The Hanoi Hilton), he proved right when he warned that if
    "we" allowed the torture of prisoners in Camp X ray (Gitmo), that same
    torture would become acceptable in the minds of many Americans and in
    various law enforcement agencies in the USA. Torture and death camps
    are usually noted in the worst authoritarian nations in history, as per
    the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, North Korea, El Salvador, Cuba, etc..
    Who among South Africans can forget Stephen Biko jumping out of a window
    after being tortured by South African police?

    If you're trying to impress people in the usenet community with your flippant remarks about torturing people to death for posting for
    discussion the gist of a DOJ suit against Elon Musk for the "crime" of
    not hiring "asylum seekers" and showing a preference for hiring American citizens, you are a very sick and mentally ill individual. You may as
    well be saying "Death to Americans" while posturing as the good guy in
    the scheme of things.


    Swill

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 18:22:03 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 12:31:20 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    If you're trying to impress people in the usenet community with your
    flippant remarks about torturing people to death for posting for
    discussion the gist of a DOJ suit against Elon Musk for the "crime" of
    not hiring "asylum seekers"

    No, I only want to see YOU tortured to death.

    Swill
    --
    "He's an IT guy and a computer guy but he's not a cyber guy." - Stupid
    things Mike Lindell says.

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I can still hear you!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From David Elsan@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 15:32:17 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/27/2023 4:12 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 10:31 AM, David Elsan wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 1:03 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 2:22 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity.  With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead >>>>>>> blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to >>>>>>> sabotage the program?

    [...]

           Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are.  For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect.

          That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    Why would they hire anyone without a Security clearance or at least highly >>> bond-able and with little or no experience or education on a
    project that is basically classified.

    You stupid draft-dodging impotent fuck.  There are *lots* of jobs at the
    company that don't require any security clearance.  The company is illegally
    refusing even to talk with people who are *eligible* to work in the U.S.

    You're going to be put into a camp and tortured, you fucking gutless nutless >> draft dodger.


    I'll bet you have framed photographs of Pol Pot and Idi Amin DaDa and Kim Jong
    Il in your home

    No.

    But you really do need to be put into a camp and water-boarded. You're a traitor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 17:35:00 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 8:10 AM, Rudy Canoza aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
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    On 8/27/2023 4:12 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 10:31 AM, David Elsan wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 1:03 AM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 8/27/2023 2:22 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain
    <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two
    Chinese-"American"
    sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist
    Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ
    have to
    force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Â Â Â Â Â Â Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally
    been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but
    in effect.

    Â Â Â Â Â That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX
    can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    Why would they hire anyone without a Security clearance or at least
    highly
    bond-able and with little or no experience or education on a
    project that is basically classified.

    You stupid draft-dodging impotent fuck. There are *lots* of jobs
    at the
    company that don't require any security clearance. The company is illegally
    refusing even to talk with people who are *eligible* to work in the U.S.

    You're going to be put into a camp and tortured, you fucking gutless nutless
    draft dodger.


    I'll bet you have framed photographs of Pol Pot and Idi Amin DaDa and
    Kim Jong
    Il in your home

    No.

    But you really do need to be put into a camp and water-boarded.
    You're >a traitor.

    What ever Rudy. You belong in a state hospital for the criminally insane.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 17:37:24 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
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    From: Governor Swill <[email protected]>
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    No, I only want to see YOU tortured to death.

    Swill

    You belong in a state hospital for the criminally insane, Rudy.


    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Aug 28 17:41:04 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly
    planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank and
    file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials. I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in Arizona
    without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from Mastercard.

    Swill

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list even before they killed 3,000
    people when they flew commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center
    Towers. They're the kind of people you want to force Space X to hire, obviously.
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Aug 28 17:43:00 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 8:04 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:14:46 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/27/2023 9:25 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]> wrote: >>>
    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con> >>>>> wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and
    the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead >>>>>>>> blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to >>>>>>>> sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with
    asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect.

    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally >>>>> discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    *sigh* Another bigot.

    David, the refugees we're talking about are ALREADY APPROVED. If they weren't they
    wouldn't be here looking for housing and work.

    Swill

    You mean people like those Saudis who flew planes into the Twin Towers
    and the Pentagon on 9-11? Or people like Sirhan Sirhan?

    No, I'm talking about approved refugees and asylees.

    You mean like the Boston Bombers.

    Your above were neither.

    Swill

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 17:41:18 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 4:37 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball

    No.

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 18:54:31 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 6:41 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 4:41 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly
    planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank
    and
    file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials.  I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in
    Arizona
    without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school
    isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from
    Mastercard.

    Swill

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list

    They weren't asylees or refugees, you stupid cocksucker.


    I didn't say they were, you stupid cocksucker.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to K Wills on Mon Aug 28 18:45:14 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 1:28 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 07:47:49 -0500, David Hartung <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/27/23 02:22, K Wills wrote:
    On Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:58:07 -0700, Mike Colangelo <air@vatican_.con>
    wrote:

    On 8/25/2023 1:14 AM, K Wills wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 13:53:53 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote:

    This is insanity. With the recent arrest of two Chinese-"American" >>>>>> sailors in the U.S. Navy for spying for the Chinese Communist Party and >>>>>> the more distant Chinese spy who stole W88 thermonuclear warhead
    blueprints from Los Alamos, what possible reason would the DOJ have to >>>>>> force Space X to hire "asylum seekers" / "refugees" other than to
    sabotage the program?

    [...]

    Am I missing something? I'm no expert, but I'm certain those with >>>>> asylum/refugee status are legally allowed to work in the U.S.

    They are. For all intents and purposes, those who have formally been granted
    asylum or refugee status have green cards — not literally, but in effect.

    That's been my understanding. And, as such, SpaceX can't legally
    discourage such people from applying.

    My understanding is that until refugee/asylum status is approved, one
    may not work. It is also my understanding that current administration
    policy is ti allow those with pending applications to remain in the
    country, and that most likely it is this group that Space X refuses to hire.

    If so, then no laws have been violated. But the way the initial
    article reads, the allegation is in regards to trying to prevent those
    with refugee/asylum status to even apply.


    Perhaps with good reason Elon Musk prefers not to hire these "asylees",
    as they are called.:

    Videos show how the Fargo (asylee) shooter targeted officers, North
    Dakota attorney general says

    https://www.aol.com/videos-show-fargo-shooter-targeted-184314102.html

    Barakat lived alone in an apartment, working odd jobs for money. He had
    no criminal record or social media presence, authorities said, and had
    so little contact with others that the only photo investigators have
    provided is a blurry image taken from a video.

    Authorities have said Barakat loaded his car with guns, ammunition and explosives and was likely planning a larger attack in the Fargo area.
    Then he happened upon the fender bender, and may have ambushed the
    officers to create a diversion.

    Barakat shot and killed Jake Wallin, who managed to fire one round
    before he died, and wounded Officers Andrew Dotas and Tyler Hawes along
    with Karlee Koswick, a woman who had rear-ended another vehicle in the
    crash. All three have since left the hospital.

    In the videos, Barakat can be seen driving around the area and parking
    twice in an adjacent parking lot as people came and went amid busy
    traffic and firefighters responded to the crash. The rear-ended vehicle
    parked just feet away from Barakat, carrying several other people who
    soon found themselves ducking for their lives.

    Barakat appeared to wait until the three officers moved closer, into a
    grassy area between the parking lot and street, to interview crash
    witnesses. He opened fire from his vehicle, with no apparent warning,
    using a .223-caliber rifle that had had been modified with a binary
    trigger to unleash a torrent of bullets, some of which hit passing cars
    and nearby homes.

    It's just “the winds of fate” that more people weren't wounded, Wrigley said.

    A fourth officer, Zach Robinson, was in the street when the gunfire
    erupted and began firing back with a 9 mm handgun, ducking behind
    Koswick's car and then rising up to shoot the clip of Barakat's rifle, effectively disabling the weapon, from about 75 feet (23 meters) away.
    Calling for backup, he says “Send everybody,” and then runs toward
    danger as Barakat moves between the parked cars.

    The video then shows the wounded Barakat on the ground, still waving a
    handgun and ignoring Robinson's commands to drop the weapon. Ultimately, Robinson fired five more shots. In the end, after nearly two minutes, 21
    of the 31 shots Robinson fired had struck the gunman.

    Police vehicles then rushed in from all directions, joined by several ambulances. The firefighters already at the scene for the crash ran to
    the officers' sides; they had backed up their truck, its front tire
    punctured by gunfire, to block traffic as the bullets flew.

    Hawes’ body camera was shot off his chest and landed on the sidewalk,
    where it captured audio of the gunfire and sirens. Another camera
    recorded Hawes crawling to Dotas’ side to comfort him after both were
    shot. Robinson helped a responding officer handcuff the dying gunman,
    then comfort Dotas as responders cut off his clothing to render aid.

    Video recordings also show Koswick run and fall after being shot. She
    had been on the sidewalk, talking on her phone.

    Wrigley had already presented a segment of Robinson’s body camera
    recording at a press conference this month, showing the moments leading
    up to Barakat’s abrupt attack and how Robinson confronted him, likely preventing much more bloodshed.

    Investigators found numerous guns, 1,800 rounds of ammunition, a
    homemade grenade and explosives in Barakat’s vehicle.

    Barakat, 37, was a Syrian national who had come to the U.S. on an asylum request in 2012 and became a U.S. citizen in 2019, Wrigley has said.
    Concerns about his guns prompted police to interview Barakat at his home
    at least twice in recent years, but he appeared to have acquired the
    weapons legally.

    [Just the kind of "asylum seeker" that the DOJ is suing SpaceX for not
    hiring.]

    After the attack, investigators examining Barakat's internet history
    found that over the past five years, he had searched for terms including “kill fast,” “explosive ammo,” “incendiary rounds,” “mass shooting
    events,” and one for “area events where there are crowds.” That brought up a news article with the headline, ”Thousands enjoy first day of
    Downtown Fargo Street Fair,” a day before the shooting.

    Robinson is now back on the job, his actions commended by both Wrigley
    and Fargo Police Chief David Zibolski.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 17:57:07 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 5:54 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 6:41 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 4:41 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly >>>>> planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank and >>>>> file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials.  I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in Arizona >>>>> without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school isn't >>>> about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from Mastercard. >>>>
    Swill

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list

    They weren't asylees or refugees, you stupid cocksucker.


    I didn't say they were

    You implied that they were, you stupid cocksucker.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Rudy Canoza@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 18:05:33 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 4:37 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester, lied:

    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball

    Not even close, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 20:45:58 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 6:57 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 5:54 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 6:41 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 4:41 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly >>>>>> planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from
    rank and
    file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI >>>>>> officials.  I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in
    Arizona
    without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school
    isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from
    Mastercard.

    Swill

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list

    They weren't asylees or refugees, you stupid cocksucker.


    I didn't say they were

    You implied that they were, you stupid cocksucker.


    You inferred I meant that, you stupid cocksucker. You inferred wrong.
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 19:58:44 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 7:43 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow,"
    "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:

    On 8/28/2023 7:05 PM, Rudy Canoza, the intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical superior to "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth,
    wrote:

    Not even close, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    Fuck you, Rudy.

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth. We're coming for you, you squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 19:54:01 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 7:45 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow,"
    "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:

    On 8/28/2023 6:57 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 5:54 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:
    On 8/28/2023 6:41 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 4:41 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:
    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly >>>>>>> planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank and
    file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI >>>>>>> officials.  I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in Arizona
    without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school isn't
    about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from Mastercard.

    Swill

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list

    They weren't asylees or refugees, you stupid cocksucker.


    I didn't say they were

    You implied that they were, you stupid cocksucker.


    You inferred I meant that

    You implied it, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    You don't have much time left, you subhuman Nazi filth shitbag.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 20:43:34 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

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    On 8/28/2023 7:05 PM, Rudy Canoza, a drunk fucking child molester lied:

    Not even close, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    Fuck you, Rudy.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 23:41:48 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:41:04 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly
    planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank and >>> file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials. I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in Arizona >>> without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from Mastercard.

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list even before they killed 3,000
    people when they flew commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center >Towers. They're the kind of people you want to force Space X to hire, >obviously.

    They weren't asylees or refugees. They were on tourist visas and had no work entitlement.
    Your comments on the SpaceX issue continue to be irrelevant.

    Since you mention it, they didn't slip cross the southern border, they *flew* in from
    Canada and Europe.

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 23:46:04 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 18:54:31 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 6:41 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 4:41 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly >>>>> planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank >>>>> and
    file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials.� I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in
    Arizona
    without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school
    isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from
    Mastercard.
    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list

    They weren't asylees or refugees, you stupid cocksucker.


    I didn't say they were, you stupid cocksucker.

    But you did indicate that SpaceX should have hired them.

    You wrote:
    "They were on an FBI terrorist watch list even before they killed 3,000
    people when they flew commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center
    Towers. They're the kind of people you want to force Space X to hire, obviously."

    Since they weren't entitled to work here, your comment about them is irrelevant and the
    transparent gasp of a desperate xenophobe.

    You're too stupid to be a cocksucker.

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 23:53:13 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:43:34 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 7:05 PM, Rudy Canoza, a drunk fucking child molester lied:

    Not even close, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    Fuck you, Rudy.

    Aw, man, even the dwarves down at the Jolly Kone have standards!

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 23:51:40 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:37:24 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
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    No, I only want to see YOU tortured to death.

    Swill

    You belong in a state hospital for the criminally insane, Rudy.

    My name's not Rudy but I still want to see every living Nazi tortured to death.

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 23:47:47 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 20:45:58 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 6:57 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 5:54 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 6:41 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 4:41 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly >>>>>>> planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from
    rank and
    file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI >>>>>>> officials.� I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in >>>>>>> Arizona
    without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school >>>>>> isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from
    Mastercard.

    Swill

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list

    They weren't asylees or refugees, you stupid cocksucker.


    I didn't say they were

    You implied that they were, you stupid cocksucker.


    You inferred I meant that, you stupid cocksucker. You inferred wrong.

    "They were on an FBI terrorist watch list even before they killed 3,000
    people when they flew commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center
    Towers. They're the kind of people you want to force Space X to hire, obviously."

    Looks like an implication to me.

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to drunk fucking child molester and su on Mon Aug 28 21:55:32 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack (aka Rudy Canoza aka Jonathan Ball), a
    drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.  We're coming for you, you squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    https://www.tiktok.com/@flamingojacksoncomedy/video/7270930623110401326?_r=1&_t=8fEJddA14sF

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 23:50:01 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 18:45:14 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    Barakat, 37, was a Syrian national who had come to the U.S. on an asylum >request in 2012 and became a U.S. citizen in 2019, Wrigley has said.
    Concerns about his guns prompted police to interview Barakat at his home
    at least twice in recent years, but he appeared to have acquired the
    weapons legally.

    [Just the kind of "asylum seeker" that the DOJ is suing SpaceX for not >hiring.]

    I see. So the problem wasn't the second amendment, but that this particular gun owner was
    born outside the United States?

    Swill
    --
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  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 21:00:33 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 8:55 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow,"
    "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.  We're coming for you, you
    squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    [zero]

    I'm not kidding. Your time is *short*, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    I'm coming to Colorado in early October.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Aug 28 22:03:08 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 9:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:37:24 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
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    From: Governor Swill <[email protected]>
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    No, I only want to see YOU tortured to death.

    Swill

    You belong in a state hospital for the criminally insane, Rudy.

    My name's not Rudy but I still want to see every living Nazi tortured to death.

    Swill

    Why don't you join Wagner Group and help Putin de-Nazify Ukraine then?
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Rudy Crayola@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 23:11:13 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump, sci.military.naval

    On 8/28/2023 11:00 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:55 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee,"
    "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, lied:

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.  We're coming for you, you
    squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    [zero]

    I'm not kidding.  Your time is *short*, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    I'm coming to Colorado in early October.

    You mean that you are being transferred from Atascadero Prison for the criminally insane to Colorado's Maximum lockup for Child raping Deviants?

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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Mon Aug 28 22:07:15 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 9:41 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:41:04 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly
    planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank and >>>> file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials. I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in Arizona >>>> without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from Mastercard.

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list even before they killed 3,000
    people when they flew commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center
    Towers. They're the kind of people you want to force Space X to hire,
    obviously.

    They weren't asylees or refugees. They were on tourist visas and had no work entitlement.
    Your comments on the SpaceX issue continue to be irrelevant.

    Since you mention it, they didn't slip cross the southern border, they *flew* in from
    Canada and Europe.

    Swill

    You must admit that they were pretty clever for someone on tourist visas
    to get NORAD to stand down so they could fly jetliners into the World
    Trade Center Towers and the Pentagon. Would you hire them to work at
    SpaceX if they were still alive today?


    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 21:27:43 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    Lucas McCain wrote:
    Who among South Africans can forget Stephen Biko jumping out of a
    window after being tortured by South African police?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVpsM3YAgw

    --
    Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @
    'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
    The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.O / \
    of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed

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  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 21:21:07 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 9:03 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow,"
    "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth

    On 8/28/2023 9:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:37:24 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
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    From: Governor Swill <[email protected]>
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    No, I only want to see YOU tortured to death.

    Swill

    You belong in a state hospital for the criminally insane, Rudy.

    My name's not Rudy but I still want to see every living Nazi tortured to death.

    Swill

    Why don't you join Wagner Group and help Putin de-Nazify Ukraine then?

    We're going to de-Nazify *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth. You won't survive it.

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Mon Aug 28 23:52:41 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 8/28/2023 11:03 PM, Lucas McCain wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 9:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:37:24 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
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    No, I only want to see YOU tortured to death.

    Swill

    You belong in a state hospital for the criminally insane, Rudy.

    My name's not Rudy but I still want to see every living Nazi tortured
    to death.

    Swill

    Why don't you join Wagner Group and help Putin de-Nazify Ukraine then?

    Because Slops is a chicken shit and certainly would never serve in the Military. He and Rudy shared the same under-bed in basement during the
    Vietnam conflict. Putin's goal is for Russia and it allies to crush
    America and ass-wipes like Slops is right up front cheering them on.
    China and N Korea plus others just signed a mutual defense thing
    including Russia. Not sure where Iran et al stand on this, but assume
    they are in the shadows awaiting their opportunity. Time is of the
    essence. But Biden has his paycheck and has already sold us out.

    bnVsbA==

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 23:57:58 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 8/28/2023 11:21 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 9:03 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee,"
    "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth

    On 8/28/2023 9:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:37:24 -0600, Lucas McCain
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
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    No, I only want to see YOU tortured to death.

    Swill

    You belong in a state hospital for the criminally insane, Rudy.

    My name's not Rudy but I still want to see every living Nazi tortured
    to death.

    Swill

    Why don't you join Wagner Group and help Putin de-Nazify Ukraine then?

    We're going to de-Nazify *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.  You won't
    survive it.

    Gee, and I was sure you were too busy sucking dick and licking assholes
    from your extremely diminutive small stature to post here.




    bnVsbA==

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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 28 22:40:07 2023
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    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 9:52 PM, PoxedCunt, subhuman Nazi filth, lied:

    On 8/28/2023 11:03 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:

    On 8/28/2023 9:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:37:24 -0600, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:

    On 8/28/2023 4:22 PM, Rudy Canoza, aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
    Path:
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    No, I only want to see YOU tortured to death.

    Swill

    You belong in a state hospital for the criminally insane, Rudy.

    My name's not Rudy but I still want to see every living Nazi tortured to death.

    Swill

    Why don't you join Wagner Group and help Putin de-Nazify Ukraine then?

    Because

    You're about at the end of your rope, you cunt.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Tue Aug 29 00:49:04 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 10:10:42 -0400, Governor Swill
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    You're going to be put into a camp and tortured, you fucking gutless
    nutless draft dodger.


    I'll bet you have framed photographs of Pol Pot and Idi Amin DaDa and
    Kim Jong Il in your home and can recite the writings of Lin Biao by
    heart. You can probably quote directly from the writings of Papa Doc and >>Robert Mugabe -- your heroes and political inspirations.

    As long as the end result is you being tortured to death in a camp, who cares what he
    reads?

    Torture is wrong, no matter the victim.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 00:49:39 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 17:41:04 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 8:06 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 21:42:05 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    That's not my recollection, which was that they were learning to fly
    planes in Arizona and, despite warnings to their superiors from rank and >>> file FBI agents, the warnings were ignored by the higher level FBI
    officials. I doubt a Saudi citizen could take flying lessons in Arizona >>> without a visa and passport.

    No school visa needed to take private flying lessons and the school isn't about to check
    for a student visa anyway as long as they get an approval from Mastercard. >>
    Swill

    They were on an FBI terrorist watch list even before they killed 3,000
    people when they flew commercial jetliners into the World Trade Center >Towers. They're the kind of people you want to force Space X to hire, >obviously.

    I accept that you're not pretending to be stupid, but you must
    know none of them had asylee or refugee status.
    Or are you truly so DESPERATE to divert from the truth?

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 00:50:23 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 18:45:14 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    [Snip to focus on Lucas' example of how profoundly stupid he is]

    [Just the kind of "asylum seeker" that the DOJ is suing SpaceX for not >hiring.]

    The issue isn't of hiring. SpaceX is accused of illegally
    discouraging those who have asylee or refugee status from applying. If
    one doesn't apply, there can be no concern about hiring.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

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  • From David Hartung@21:1/5 to K Wills on Tue Aug 29 09:46:41 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/29/23 02:49, K Wills wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 10:10:42 -0400, Governor Swill
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    [...]

    You're going to be put into a camp and tortured, you fucking gutless
    nutless draft dodger.


    I'll bet you have framed photographs of Pol Pot and Idi Amin DaDa and
    Kim Jong Il in your home and can recite the writings of Lin Biao by
    heart. You can probably quote directly from the writings of Papa Doc and >>> Robert Mugabe -- your heroes and political inspirations.

    As long as the end result is you being tortured to death in a camp, who cares what he
    reads?

    Torture is wrong, no matter the victim.

    I agree.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Tue Aug 29 11:50:13 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 21:55:32 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack (aka Rudy Canoza aka Jonathan Ball), a
    drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.� We're coming for you, you
    squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    https://www.tiktok.com/@flamingojacksoncomedy/video/7270930623110401326?_r=1&_t=8fEJddA14sF

    https://www.discogs.com/release/15782815-Various-Dead-Nazis-Every-Where

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Tue Aug 29 11:44:16 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 22:07:15 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    You must admit that they were pretty clever for someone on tourist visas
    to get NORAD to stand down so they could fly jetliners into the World
    Trade Center Towers and the Pentagon. Would you hire them to work at
    SpaceX if they were still alive today?

    *laughs and points*

    You can always depend on a rightist to double down on stupid.

    LOL!

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Tue Aug 29 11:51:16 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 22:03:08 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    Why don't you join Wagner Group and help Putin de-Nazify Ukraine then?

    Because Zelensky is doing a bang up job of it already!

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 18:26:59 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/28/2023 10:00 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:55 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee,"
    "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", <snip>

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.  We're coming for you, you
    squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    [zero]

    I'm not kidding.  Your time is *short*, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    I'm coming to Colorado in early October.

    Your terrorist threats to cross interstate lines to do me bodily harm
    are noted, as well as your libel and slander. For the record, I have
    never been charged or prosecuted for any crimes of any kind and I have
    never been a Nazi. I held a Top Secret Security Clearance with the U.S.
    Navy and recently served as a grand juror on a Grand Jury for the
    Boulder County DA's office. Your innuendo, lies and smears about me are despicable.

    You can be personally identified by law enforcement and if you persist
    in your threats to cross interstate lines to harm me, I will pursue
    having you arrested and charged with making terrorist threats against
    me. I wouldn't shed a tear if I see on the news that some FBI SWAT team
    comes pounding on your door and guns you down at 6 am. I will continue
    to contribute to discussions in the usenet newsgroups and strongly
    advise you to consider the possible repercussions for you of your
    ongoing libel, slander and terrorist threats. You have been warned.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 19:44:44 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/29/2023 5:26 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow,"
    "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:

    On 8/28/2023 10:00 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:55 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", <snip>

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.  We're coming for you, you
    squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    [zero]

    I'm not kidding.  Your time is *short*, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    I'm coming to Colorado in early October.

    Your terrorist threats to cross interstate lines to do me bodily harm are noted,

    No such "threats," you subhuman Nazi filth.


    as well as your libel and slander.

    Neither one. A phony pseudonym *cannot* be libeled or slandered, you subhuman Nazi filth.


    For the record, I have never been charged or
    prosecuted for any crimes of any kind and I have never been a Nazi.

    You *are* a Nazi, you subhuman Nazi filth. Your vile writings prove it.

    I held a Top Secret Security Clearance with the U.S. Navy and

    Big fucking deal. You never should have been in our military. You were a security risk.

    recently served as a grand
    juror on a Grand Jury for the Boulder County DA's office.  Your innuendo, lies
    and smears about me are despicable.

    They are truthful statements, you subhuman Nazi filth.


     You can be personally identified by law enforcement and if you persist in your
    threats to cross interstate lines to harm me,

    No such threats, you subhuman Nazi filth. I have no intention of doing you harm. I just want you to know you aren't as well concealed as you wish to think.

    Get the fuck *out* of this country and go to the despotism where you fit in.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lucas McCain@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 21:48:07 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

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    From: "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut>
    Subject: Re: SpaceX Sued for Allegedly Discriminating Against Refugees Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.trump
    References: <uc8cgg$3ju45$[email protected]>
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    On 8/29/2023 8:44 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/29/2023 5:26 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee,"
    "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", <snip> wrote:
    <
    On 8/28/2023 10:00 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:55 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee,"
    "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", <snip>

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.  We're coming for you, you >>>>> squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    [zero]

    I'm not kidding.  Your time is *short*, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    I'm coming to Colorado in early October.

    Your terrorist threats to cross interstate lines to do me bodily harm
    are noted,

    No such "threats," you subhuman Nazi filth.


    You most certainly did make such threats. Not "threats" but threats.
    If I feel fear for my life because you threatened to torture and kill
    me, which you did, then under the Patriot Act and Military Commissions
    Act you are engaging in domestic terrorism. Every time you post you're
    digging yourself deeper into a hole you can't climb out of. I suggest
    that you stop posting before you find yourself arrested or killed in an
    early morning raid by a SWAT team for engaging in domestic terrorism.




    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    “Western values mean three things: migration, LGBTQ, and war." Viktor Orban

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Mr. B1ack@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 29 21:25:31 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/29/2023 8:48 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow,"
    "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:

    Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!diablo1.usenet.blueworldhosting.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx13.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101
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    From: "Mr. B1ack" <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut>
    Subject: Re: SpaceX Sued for Allegedly Discriminating Against Refugees Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.trump
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    Why do you think posting the headers is meaningful, you subhuman Nazi filth?


    On 8/29/2023 8:44 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/29/2023 5:26 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim
    Crow," "Steve from Colorado", <snip> wrote:
    <
    On 8/28/2023 10:00 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:55 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim >>>> Crow," "Steve from Colorado", <snip>

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.  We're coming for you, you >>>>>> squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    [zero]

    I'm not kidding.  Your time is *short*, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    I'm coming to Colorado in early October.

    Your terrorist threats to cross interstate lines to do me bodily harm are noted,

    No such "threats," you subhuman Nazi filth.


    You most certainly did make such threats.

    No threats, you subhuman Nazi filth and squat-to-piss fairy.

    If I feel fear for my life because you threatened to torture and kill me, which you did,

    I did not, you subhuman Nazi filth faggot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut on Wed Aug 30 00:49:54 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Mon, 28 Aug 2023 21:00:33 -0700, "Mr. B1ack"
    <bykkker@dogshit~rag.nut> wrote:

    On 8/28/2023 8:55 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow,"
    "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, >lied:

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.� We're coming for you, you
    squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.


    [zero]

    I'm not kidding. Your time is *short*, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    I'm coming to Colorado in early October.

    Enjoy your visit.

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From K Wills@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 30 00:50:15 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:48:07 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    On 8/29/2023 8:44 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/29/2023 5:26 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee,"
    "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", <snip> wrote:
    <
    On 8/28/2023 10:00 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:
    On 8/28/2023 8:55 PM, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee,"
    "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", <snip>

    On 8/28/2023 8:58 PM, Mr. B1ack wrote:

    No, fuck *you*, you subhuman Nazi filth.� We're coming for you, you >>>>>> squat-to-piss cocksucking subhuman Nazi filth.

    [zero]

    I'm not kidding.� Your time is *short*, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    I'm coming to Colorado in early October.

    Your terrorist threats to cross interstate lines to do me bodily harm
    are noted,

    No such "threats," you subhuman Nazi filth.

    You most certainly did make such threats. Not "threats" but threats.

    You inferred it. Kind of like how your mentioning SpaceX in
    another post means, according to you, that readers inferred you were referencing SpaceX.

    If I feel fear for my life because you threatened to torture and kill
    me, which you did, then under the Patriot Act and Military Commissions
    Act you are engaging in domestic terrorism.

    Your inference equals a threat?

    Every time you post you're
    digging yourself deeper into a hole you can't climb out of. I suggest
    that you stop posting before you find yourself arrested or killed in an
    early morning raid by a SWAT team for engaging in domestic terrorism.

    Does his exposing you for the slime you truly are really bother
    you as much as your post suggests?

    --
    K
    Strategic Writer,
    Psychotronic World Dominator.
    And FEMA camp counselor.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Wed Aug 30 10:23:46 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 18:26:59 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    I will continue
    to contribute to discussions in the usenet newsgroups and strongly
    advise you to consider the possible repercussions for you of your
    ongoing libel, slander and terrorist threats.

    *laughs and points*

    There is nothing nasty you can say about a Nazi that's libelous. Begone, before somebody
    drops a house on you!

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Wed Aug 30 10:25:31 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:48:07 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    You most certainly did make such threats. Not "threats" but threats.

    ??

    If I feel fear for my life because you threatened to torture and kill
    me, which you did, then under the Patriot Act and Military Commissions
    Act you are engaging in domestic terrorism.

    You're afraid of RUDY? He's electronic words on a page and you're *scared* of him?

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Lucas McCain on Wed Aug 30 10:21:35 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 18:26:59 -0600, Lucas McCain <[email protected]> wrote:

    You can be personally identified by law enforcement and if you persist
    in your threats to cross interstate lines to harm me, I will pursue
    having you arrested and charged with making terrorist threats against
    me.

    Lol! And you're a chickenshit too!

    And the cops will tell you to get a lawyer and sue. They aren't going to do anything to
    help a lying sack of Nazi shit that, if there was any justice, would already be moldering
    in his grave.

    Swill
    --
    MAGA: My Ass Got Arrested

    GO TRUMP! Go farther! Farther! I CAN STILL HEAR YOU!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lou Bricano@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Aug 30 09:36:56 2023
    XPost: alt.politics.immigration, alt.politics.usa, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    XPost: alt.politics.trump

    On 8/30/2023 7:25 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 29 Aug 2023 21:48:07 -0600, "Hisler," "DFENS," "Jade Helm," "Duke Mantee," "Jim Crow," "Steve from Colorado", a drunk fucking child molester and subhuman Nazi filth, vomited:

    You most certainly did make such threats. Not "threats" but threats.

    ??

    If I feel fear for my life because you threatened to torture and kill
    me, which you did, then under the Patriot Act and Military Commissions
    Act you are engaging in domestic terrorism.

    You're afraid of RUDY? He's electronic words on a page and you're *scared* of him?

    The lying subhuman Nazi filth claims I threatened to "torture and kill" him. It's a lie. Work your way back up the thread and check. He lied. Subhuman Nazi filth always lie.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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