• Re: Did Prigozhin obtain nuclear weapons

    From Charlie Glock <"Charlie@21:1/5 to Duke Mantee on Mon Jun 26 21:44:40 2023
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    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may
    be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been
    his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended
    the operations because all objectives were achieved.

    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    --
    Charlie Glock
    "To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
    -- Adolf Hitler

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  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 26 15:29:50 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may
    be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been
    his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended
    the operations because all objectives were achieved.
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Nic@21:1/5 to Charlie Glock on Mon Jun 26 19:57:04 2023
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    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/26/23 5:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may
    be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been
    his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended
    the operations because all objectives were achieved.
    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    You may call it an affair, but others who are in this war at the front
    line who walk away with one leg or arm will never understand this war.
    Will the man who controls the largest stick brutally stand up and club
    down the weak and inferior, unworthy, un holy,

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  • From Charlie Glock <"Charlie@21:1/5 to Nic on Tue Jun 27 00:24:26 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 2023-06-26, Nic <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/26/23 5:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may
    be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been
    his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended
    the operations because all objectives were achieved.
    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    You may call it an affair, but others who are in this war at the front
    line who walk away with one leg or arm will never understand this war.
    Will the man who controls the largest stick brutally stand up and club
    down the weak and inferior, unworthy, un holy,

    Yea. This was a war that never should have happened. The Russians don't want it and neither do the
    Ukrainians.
    It's horrible.


    --
    Charlie Glock
    "To conquer a nation, first disarm it's citizens"
    -- Adolf Hitler

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  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to Charlie Glock on Mon Jun 26 22:36:29 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/26/2023 3:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may
    be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been
    his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended
    the operations because all objectives were achieved.

    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.


    Some late night reading for your entertainment:

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/world/russia-descending-into-civil-war-putin-addresses-nation-treason-mutiny-us-nato-nuclear-first-strike-if-wagner-gets-russian-nukes-ruaf-bombs-wagner-pmc-convoys
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Glock"@localhost.com on Tue Jun 27 05:33:25 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:24:26 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

    On 2023-06-26, Nic <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/26/23 5:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may >>>> be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been >>>> his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended >>>> the operations because all objectives were achieved.
    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    You may call it an affair, but others who are in this war at the front
    line who walk away with one leg or arm will never understand this war.
    Will the man who controls the largest stick brutally stand up and club
    down the weak and inferior, unworthy, un holy,

    Yea. This was a war that never should have happened. The Russians don't want it and neither do the
    Ukrainians.
    It's horrible.

    It's an easy war to end. All the Russians have to do is leave Ukraine and the war is
    over!

    Swill
    --
    Reality is an acquired taste - Matthew Perry

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Tue Jun 27 09:07:21 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/27/2023 5:33 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:24:26 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

    On 2023-06-26, Nic <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 6/26/23 5:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may >>>>> be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to >>>>> suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee >>>>> his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been >>>>> his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended >>>>> the operations because all objectives were achieved.
    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    You may call it an affair, but others who are in this war at the front
    line who walk away with one leg or arm will never understand this war.
    Will the man who controls the largest stick brutally stand up and club
    down the weak and inferior, unworthy, un holy,
    Yea. This was a war that never should have happened. The Russians don't want it and neither do the
    Ukrainians.
    It's horrible.
    It's an easy war to end. All the Russians have to do is leave Ukraine and the war is
    over!

    Swill



    Yup, just like the Americans did in 'Nam and Afghanistan.

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  • From PaxPerPoten@21:1/5 to Charlie Glock on Wed Jun 28 14:23:20 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 6/26/2023 4:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may
    be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been
    his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended
    the operations because all objectives were achieved.

    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    Yep...Jest aannuder Chess Move.


    bnVsbA==

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  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to PaxPerPoten on Wed Jun 28 16:19:07 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/28/2023 1:23 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 6/26/2023 4:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may
    be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been
    his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended
    the operations because all objectives were achieved.

    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is
    really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    Yep...Jest aannuder Chess Move.


    This is the best snapshot of what's going on in Russia per Wagner Group
    I have heard to date:

    Off-Guardian

    Rolo Slavskiy joins James Corbett to discuss the crazy events in Russia
    this past weekend.

    Did Yevgeny Prigozhin just lead a mutiny? A coup attempt? Was this a
    psyop? A false flag? A “special military operation” (to use the
    Kremlin’s lingo)? Or something else entirely? And, is it really over? If
    so, who won?

    Buckle up and get your notebook ready, folks. This is going to be a data
    dump.

    https://off-guardian.org/2023/06/27/audio-wtf-just-happened-in-russia/

    https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1813-wtf-just-happened-in-russia-with-rolo-slavskiy/

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Duke Mantee on Wed Jun 28 20:53:04 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 16:19:07 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/28/2023 1:23 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 6/26/2023 4:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may >>>> be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee
    his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been >>>> his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended >>>> the operations because all objectives were achieved.

    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is
    really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    Yep...Jest aannuder Chess Move.


    This is the best snapshot of what's going on in Russia per Wagner Group
    I have heard to date:

    Off-Guardian

    Rolo Slavskiy joins James Corbett to discuss the crazy events in Russia
    this past weekend.

    Did Yevgeny Prigozhin just lead a mutiny? A coup attempt? Was this a
    psyop? A false flag? A �special military operation� (to use the
    Kremlin�s lingo)? Or something else entirely? And, is it really over? If
    so, who won?

    Buckle up and get your notebook ready, folks. This is going to be a data >dump.

    https://off-guardian.org/2023/06/27/audio-wtf-just-happened-in-russia/

    https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1813-wtf-just-happened-in-russia-with-rolo-slavskiy/

    Currently it appears a compromise has been reached. Prigozhin won't go to jail, Shoigu
    and Gerasimov will go into retirement. The ridiculous part is that Shoigu's job will go
    to yet another incompetent loyalist.

    Swill

    --
    Reality is an acquired taste - Matthew Perry

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Wed Jun 28 19:32:25 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/28/2023 6:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 16:19:07 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/28/2023 1:23 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 6/26/2023 4:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may >>>>> be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to >>>>> suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee >>>>> his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been >>>>> his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended >>>>> the operations because all objectives were achieved.

    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is
    really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    Yep...Jest aannuder Chess Move.


    This is the best snapshot of what's going on in Russia per Wagner Group
    I have heard to date:

    Off-Guardian

    Rolo Slavskiy joins James Corbett to discuss the crazy events in Russia
    this past weekend.

    Did Yevgeny Prigozhin just lead a mutiny? A coup attempt? Was this a
    psyop? A false flag? A “special military operation” (to use the
    Kremlin’s lingo)? Or something else entirely? And, is it really over? If >> so, who won?

    Buckle up and get your notebook ready, folks. This is going to be a data
    dump.

    https://off-guardian.org/2023/06/27/audio-wtf-just-happened-in-russia/

    https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1813-wtf-just-happened-in-russia-with-rolo-slavskiy/

    Currently it appears a compromise has been reached. Prigozhin won't go to jail, Shoigu
    and Gerasimov will go into retirement. The ridiculous part is that Shoigu's job will go
    to yet another incompetent loyalist.

    Swill

    That I had not read or heard about. It's new news to me.

    This is interesting if you don't mind this being on RT.

    https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/578769-wagner-aborted-coup-results/

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Duke Mantee on Thu Jun 29 04:37:57 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 19:32:25 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/28/2023 6:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 16:19:07 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    On 6/28/2023 1:23 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 6/26/2023 4:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may >>>>>> be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to >>>>>> suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee >>>>>> his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been >>>>>> his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended >>>>>> the operations because all objectives were achieved.

    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is >>>>> really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    Yep...Jest aannuder Chess Move.


    This is the best snapshot of what's going on in Russia per Wagner Group
    I have heard to date:

    Off-Guardian

    Rolo Slavskiy joins James Corbett to discuss the crazy events in Russia
    this past weekend.

    Did Yevgeny Prigozhin just lead a mutiny? A coup attempt? Was this a
    psyop? A false flag? A �special military operation� (to use the
    Kremlin�s lingo)? Or something else entirely? And, is it really over? If >>> so, who won?

    Buckle up and get your notebook ready, folks. This is going to be a data >>> dump.

    https://off-guardian.org/2023/06/27/audio-wtf-just-happened-in-russia/

    https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1813-wtf-just-happened-in-russia-with-rolo-slavskiy/

    Currently it appears a compromise has been reached. Prigozhin won't go to jail, Shoigu
    and Gerasimov will go into retirement. The ridiculous part is that Shoigu's job will go
    to yet another incompetent loyalist.

    That I had not read or heard about. It's new news to me.

    No matter how many news sources say it, it's speculation, I would think. But the fact is,
    Prigozhin was marching to Moscow and now he's not. Prigozhin and Utin have made/are
    making Russia a LOT of money in Africa, money Moscow does not want to forgo.

    This is interesting if you don't mind this being on RT.

    https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/578769-wagner-aborted-coup-results/

    "If Russia does not achieve all of its objectives in this war then the world is doomed. We
    all saw what happened in the Middle East when Soviet Union collapsed massacres in Iraq
    attack in Sudan during Clinton time complete mess. I hope Russia will win for the sake of
    humanity"

    *laughs and points* Russia has not and WILL not achieve *any* of its goals in Ukraine.
    That ship sailed six months ago at least.

    So, Priggy, with his wealth, armies and enormous resources in Africa has gone to Belarus
    to hang out with Lushenko who has been resisting Putin's attempts to drag him directly
    into the war.

    Hmm . . .

    What exactly did Putin promise to get Wagner to call off the revolt?

    Swill
    --
    Reality is an acquired taste - Matthew Perry

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jun 29 06:40:57 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/29/2023 4:37 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    So, Priggy, with his wealth, armies and enormous resources in Africa has gone to Belarus
    to hang out with Lushenko who has been resisting Putin's attempts to drag him directly
    into the war.

    Hmm . . .

    What exactly did Putin promise to get Wagner to call off the revolt?

    Swill


    If you have any intelligence, you should know that you should not
    believe something that is too strange to believe, you useless babbling
    idiot!

    On Feb 24 last year, Russia attacked Kiev in the north from Belarus, but
    the real target was Mariupol in the southeast.

    Do you get the hint that Wagner is "repositioning" to Belarus now, you
    useless babbling idiot?




    --
    Russia adds ICC prosecutor who sought Putin's arrest to wanted list https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-adds-icc-judge-who-issued-putin-warrant-wanted-list-media-2023-05-19/

    Tucker asks Trump who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ktEFFrtq5I&list=PLlTLHnxSVuIzrARlmz9oCfQEF08UV-v-E&index=32

    Biden openly threatened to sabotage the Nord Stream pipeline. Yes, we've done it but we are too chickenshit to admit it.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11727691/U-S-carried-Nord-Stream-bomb-attack-secret-plan-led-Joe-Biden-report-claims.html

    Biden says he'll shut down Nord Stream 2 pipeline if Russia further invades Ukraine
    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FVbEoZXhCrM

    President Biden on Nord Stream 2 Pipeline if Russia Invades Ukraine: "We will bring an end to it."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8

    Biden: No Nord Stream 2 pipeline if Russia invades https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8YC7UQVmis

    Biden vows to 'end' Nord Stream 2 pipeline if Russia invades Ukraine • FRANCE 24 English
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWUuhNd37WI


    Tucker Carlson & Candace Owens: Welfare Queen Zelensky & Ukrainian Officials Demand You Fund His Swiss Property & Lambos

    https://rumble.com/v1tf528-tucker-carlson-and-candace-owens-zelensky-and-ukrainian-officials-demand-yo.html

    https://www.foxnews.com/video/6315358859112


    Zelensky Fiddles while Ukraine Burns https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oua0Puihrkc

    Zelensky's lie could get millions of Americans killed https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-lie-millions-americans-killed


    Zelensky Bans Opposition Parties in Ukraine https://www.leftvoice.org/president-zelenskyy-bans-opposition-parties-in-ukraine/

    Zelensky declared martial law https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/02/24/martial-law-ukraine-russia-attack/6925581001/

    Lindsey Graham & John McCain in Ukraine - Preparing for a proxy war with Russia (2016)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeWHviwLMy8

    Zelensky was born January 25, 1978 to Jewish parents in the industrial metropolis of Kryvyy Rih in southern Ukraine, USSR. Like many people from Ukraine’s Dnipropetrovsk region, he grew up as a native Russian speaker
    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Volodymyr-Zelensky

    Zelensky is #1 of The Jerusalem Post's 50 Most Influential Jews of 2022 https://www.jpost.com/50-most-influential-jews-2022

    U.S. admits to running Ukraine biolabs https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/after-months-of-denial-u-s-admits-to-running-ukraine-biolabs/

    Is this bald kraut with beady shifty eyes holding hands with the Jew clown? https://www.thelocal.de/20221207/fact-check-how-much-help-has-germany-given-ukraine/

    Zelensky's Green-Screen Fake Video
    You can easily discern that Zelensky is standing in front of a green screen in a studio by observing the inconsistency of lighting on Zelensky's face and the natural lighting of the background, and notice that the green-screen artifacts on Zelensky's
    body outline when the green-screen is edited out, and notice that the background is a static photo by noting there is no change in the background for 10 minutes like wind blowing tree branches and dead leaves, and notice that no white vapor was coming
    out of Zelensky's mouth when speaking outdoors in freezing temperature in Ukraine.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5txQHyYQkkI

    Zelenskyy has no interest in freedom or democracy https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-this-reality-about-ukraines-zelenskyy

    Putin says Russia could adopt US preemptive strike concept https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/putin-russia-adopt-us-preemptive-strike-concept-94876110

    Putin takes traditional Epiphany dip in icy lake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqkp2G0Q9Ac

    Putin attends Russian Orthodox Christmas Eve Mass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8NwYlTlHxs

    Putin is guided by the beauty of his weapons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0rZ2CPCYBQ

    'Target Achieved': Putin goes ballistic amid war; Dares West with 'advanced' ICBM | Watch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IoKrDjRp08

    Russia tests 'Sarmat' missile dubbed 'Satan 2' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8BqZc8FRgo

    Putin’s Zircon hypersonic cruise missile travels 1000 km https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeT8ox2BuoU

    Putin's Kinzhal Super Hypersonic Missile In Action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7fKqifFQPI

    Putin To Deploy ‘Mach 27’ Avangard Hypersonic Missiles That Can ‘Outmaneuver’ Any Defense System
    https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-goes-full-throttle-with-its-strategic-missile-forces/
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50927648

    Putin's 'indestructible' Poseidon super torpedoes to get more lethal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKdDcL7q7Ug

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From NoBody@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 07:57:45 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/26/2023 2:29 PM, subhuman Nazi filth Duchess Jade Manatee "DFENS" [sic] Crow spewed Nazi bullshit:

    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Bullshit.


    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may be part
    of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding spectacularly.

    Bullshit.

    I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee his own survival after this.

    You can't figure how to tie your own shoes, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to klaus.schadenfreude.l├╢schen.@gmail on Thu Jun 29 12:45:49 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 06:40:57 -0400, Klaus Schadenfreude <klaus.schadenfreude.lö[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/29/2023 4:37 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    So, Priggy, with his wealth, armies and enormous resources in Africa has gone to Belarus
    to hang out with Lushenko who has been resisting Putin's attempts to drag him directly
    into the war.

    Hmm . . .

    What exactly did Putin promise to get Wagner to call off the revolt?

    If you have any intelligence, you should know that you should not
    believe something that is too strange to believe, you useless babbling
    idiot!

    On Feb 24 last year, Russia attacked Kiev in the north from Belarus, but
    the real target was Mariupol in the southeast.

    Do you get the hint that Wagner is "repositioning" to Belarus now, you >useless babbling idiot?

    Russia has lost the war so badly it's destabilized the government.

    How does it feel to watch your hero lose the war, and his power, just like we all told you
    would happen?

    Swill
    --
    2021 Russian army is the second most powerful military in the world.
    2022 Russian army is the second most powerful military in Ukraine.
    2023 Russian army is the second most powerful military in Russia.

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine!

    Putin - tse prezervatyv! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Thu Jun 29 11:43:42 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/29/2023 10:45 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Russia has lost the war so badly it's destabilized the government.

    How does it feel to watch your hero lose the war, and his power, just like we all told you
    would happen?

    Swill

    Perhaps like President Brandon, you are confusing Iraq with Ukraine.
    Can you offer evidence that Russia has "lost" the Special Military
    Operation in Ukraine?

    Your hero, Brandon, "lost" in Afghanistan, just as an FYI. Now world
    leaders laugh at Brandon and his "team".


    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to Rudy Canoza aka Jonathan Ball on Thu Jun 29 11:36:53 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

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    On 6/29/2023 8:57 AM, Rudy Canoza aka Jonathan Ball wrote:
    On 6/26/2023 2:29 PM, subhuman Nazi filth Duchess Jade Manatee "DFENS"
    [sic] Crow spewed Nazi bullshit:

    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Bullshit.


    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may
    be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to
    suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding spectacularly.

    Bullshit.

    I've been trying to  figure how Prigozhin can guarantee his own
    survival after this.

    You can't figure how to tie your own shoes, you subhuman Nazi filth.


    It's surprising that the psychiatric nurses in the State Hospital for
    the Criminally Insane where you post from don't revoke your access to
    the World Wide Web. You are as far gone, mentally, as President Brandon.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From nickname unavailable@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 29 12:14:55 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/28/2023 6:32 PM, subhuman Nazi filth Duchess Jade Manatee "DFENS" [sic] Crow spewed Nazi bullshit:
    On 6/28/2023 6:53 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 16:19:07 -0600, subhuman Nazi filth Duchess Jade Manatee "DFENS" [sic] Crow spewed Nazi bullshit:
    On 6/28/2023 1:23 PM, PaxPerPoten wrote:
    On 6/26/2023 4:44 PM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2023-06-26, subhuman Nazi filth Duchess Jade Manatee "DFENS" [sic] Crow spewed Nazi bullshit:
    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may >>>>>> be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to >>>>>> suddenly and bizarrely 'end' the coup which was succeeding
    spectacularly. I've been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee >>>>>> his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been >>>>>> his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended >>>>>> the operations because all objectives were achieved.

    I'm not normally a conspiracy theorist however this entire affair is >>>>> really starting to stink like
    some type of false flag operation.

    Yep...Jest aannuder Chess Move.


    This is the best snapshot of what's going on in Russia per Wagner Group
    I have heard to date:

    Off-Guardian

    Rolo Slavskiy joins James Corbett to discuss the crazy events in Russia
    this past weekend.

    Did Yevgeny Prigozhin just lead a mutiny? A coup attempt? Was this a
    psyop? A false flag? A “special military operation” (to use the
    Kremlin’s lingo)? Or something else entirely? And, is it really over? If >>> so, who won?

    Buckle up and get your notebook ready, folks. This is going to be a data >>> dump.

    https://off-guardian.org/2023/06/27/audio-wtf-just-happened-in-russia/

    https://www.corbettreport.com/interview-1813-wtf-just-happened-in-russia-with-rolo-slavskiy/

    Currently it appears a compromise has been reached.  Prigozhin won't go to >> jail, Shoigu
    and Gerasimov will go into retirement.  The ridiculous part is that Shoigu's
    job will go
    to yet another incompetent loyalist.

    Swill

    That I had not read or heard about.  It's new news to me.

    *Every* real piece of news is news to you, you subhuman Nazi filth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Duke Mantee on Thu Jun 29 22:11:54 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:43:42 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/29/2023 10:45 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Russia has lost the war so badly it's destabilized the government.

    How does it feel to watch your hero lose the war, and his power, just like we all told you
    would happen?

    Swill

    Perhaps like President Brandon, you are confusing Iraq with Ukraine.
    Can you offer evidence that Russia has "lost" the Special Military
    Operation in Ukraine?

    Sure. Horrific losses, loss of territory, repeated moving of goal posts and now, the
    government has destabilized due to infighting among entities that have their own armies.

    Your hero, Brandon, "lost" in Afghanistan, just as an FYI. Now world
    leaders laugh at Brandon and his "team".

    That loss was achieved by four Presidents. We should have cut and run from Afghanistan
    the moment Osama's box hit the water.

    Swill
    --
    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Homer Simpson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 30 12:52:21 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh


    https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1673029020919926785

    twitter says it was Biden. He gave Prigozhin ICBMs to attack Trump after
    using his Jewish Space Lasers to start the wildfires in Canada.

    This is a certified Kristi Noem truth.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Jun 30 12:33:20 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/29/2023 8:11 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Perhaps like President Brandon, you are confusing Iraq with Ukraine.
    Can you offer evidence that Russia has "lost" the Special Military
    Operation in Ukraine?
    Sure. Horrific losses, loss of territory, repeated moving of goal posts and now, the
    government has destabilized due to infighting among entities that have their own armies.
    Writing in his latest Substack article on Thursday, Seymour Hersh
    outlined the progress of Ukraine’s offensive operations, claiming it
    would need a “miracle” to reverse Russian gains after Moscow took “total control” of the Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, and Zaporozhye regions.

    While a short-lived rebellion by Russia’s Wagner Group last weekend
    offered a brief distraction from “Ukraine’s failing counter-offensive,” Hersh went on to argue that Kiev is heading for “disaster.” He said this could be politically damaging for Biden, who will seek to sell Ukraine
    as a foreign policy success as he campaigns for re-election in 2024.

    “It may be prudent for Joe Biden to talk straight about the war, and its various problems for America – and to explain why the estimated more
    than $150 billion that his administration has put up thus far turned out
    to be a very bad investment,” the journalist added.

    Pointing to battlefield statistics and other information provided by US intelligence sources, Hersh claimed that Kiev had reclaimed only 44
    square miles of territory since launching its counteroffensive in early
    June, “much of it open land.” He said at the current pace, Kiev would
    need 117 years to completely repel Russian forces, attributing the
    figure to an unnamed official.

    https://www.rt.com/news/578950-biden-ukraine-failure-hersh/
    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Duke Mantee on Fri Jun 30 16:28:26 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:33:20 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/29/2023 8:11 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Perhaps like President Brandon, you are confusing Iraq with Ukraine.
    Can you offer evidence that Russia has "lost" the Special Military
    Operation in Ukraine?
    Sure. Horrific losses, loss of territory, repeated moving of goal posts and now, the
    government has destabilized due to infighting among entities that have their own armies.
    Writing in his latest Substack article on Thursday, Seymour Hersh
    outlined the progress of Ukraine�s offensive operations, claiming it
    would need a �miracle� to reverse Russian gains after Moscow took �total >control� of the Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, and Zaporozhye regions.

    In the past couple of weeks, UA has taken back more land in the east than they lost in the
    battle for Bakhmut this year.

    Russia has gone from, "we'll take Kyiv in a few days" to, "we've built two defense lines
    around Moscow."

    That's winning, is it?

    Shoigu and Gerasimov are looking likely to be replaced and Putin is looking less likely to
    win next year's election.

    Putin's goal was to push back on NATO. Instead, he's doubled the amount of NATO border he
    has to guard, increased NATO membership by one with one more pending and the entire
    alliance swearing to admit Ukraine after the war.

    Meanwhile, Putin's CSTO is unraveling as it's members quarrel with each other and China
    has swept in and made new allies among old SSRs while other Federation regions flirt with
    their own independence movements.

    Putin is now seen as weak and a fool. The Russian military has gone from the second
    strongest on earth to the second strongest in Russia.

    Winning? LOL!

    Swill
    --
    Putin interfered in our 2016 election and we've been waiting
    for an opportunity like this.
    You are witnessing our Texas chainsaw revenge.
    NOBODY messes with the USA and gets away with it.
    Just ask Osama Bin Laden.

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Jun 30 15:04:10 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/30/2023 2:28 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:33:20 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/29/2023 8:11 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Perhaps like President Brandon, you are confusing Iraq with Ukraine.
    Can you offer evidence that Russia has "lost" the Special Military
    Operation in Ukraine?
    Sure. Horrific losses, loss of territory, repeated moving of goal posts and now, the
    government has destabilized due to infighting among entities that have their own armies.
    Writing in his latest Substack article on Thursday, Seymour Hersh
    outlined the progress of Ukraine’s offensive operations, claiming it
    would need a “miracle” to reverse Russian gains after Moscow took “total
    control” of the Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, and Zaporozhye regions.

    In the past couple of weeks, UA has taken back more land in the east than they lost in the
    battle for Bakhmut this year.

    Russia has gone from, "we'll take Kyiv in a few days" to, "we've built two defense lines
    around Moscow."

    That's winning, is it?

    Shoigu and Gerasimov are looking likely to be replaced and Putin is looking less likely to
    win next year's election.

    Putin's goal was to push back on NATO. Instead, he's doubled the amount of NATO border he
    has to guard, increased NATO membership by one with one more pending and the entire
    alliance swearing to admit Ukraine after the war.

    Meanwhile, Putin's CSTO is unraveling as it's members quarrel with each other and China
    has swept in and made new allies among old SSRs while other Federation regions flirt with
    their own independence movements.

    Putin is now seen as weak and a fool. The Russian military has gone from the second
    strongest on earth to the second strongest in Russia.

    Winning? LOL!

    Swill

    While you laugh and point at Putin and Russia, Texas just became
    majority "Hispanic" due to Biden's refusal to enforce immigration laws
    and prevent a mostly "Hispanic" (Mestizo) foreign invasion on our
    border. New York's and Chicago's mayors are complaining about the
    burden of "asylum seekers" being bused into their respective cities. If
    I were the comedian running Ukraine or the President of Taiwan, I would
    not take seriously the "guarantees" of Biden or the E.U. or NATO (since European "leaders" are allowing the invasion of Europe by "asylum
    seekers" and making threats to Hungary and Poland for resisting the
    Great Replacement). I'd rather have a President doing a poor job of
    invading a hostile nation on our border that is delivering invaders to
    do their invading than one who is aiding and abetting the invaders from
    Mexico to take over our country.

    To put the matter in perspective: Today, Russia controls about 17
    percent of the territory that was previously Ukraine’s. If Ukrainian
    forces are no more successful in the weeks ahead than they have been so
    far, Ukraine will not recapture all of its territory for 16 years.

    --
    You voted for student loan forgiveness. You got demographic replacement
    and World War 3.

    "Title 8, U.S.C. § 1324(a) defines several distinct offenses related to aliens. Subsection 1324(a)(1)(i)-(v) prohibits alien smuggling, domestic transportation of unauthorized aliens, concealing or harboring
    unauthorized aliens, encouraging or inducing unauthorized aliens to
    enter the United States, and engaging in a conspiracy or aiding and
    abetting any of the preceding acts. Subsection 1324(a)(2) prohibits
    bringing or attempting to bring unauthorized aliens to the United States
    in any manner whatsoever, even at a designated port of entry. Subsection 1324(a)(3)."

    https://www.globalgulag.us

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Duke Mantee on Fri Jun 30 20:51:10 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 15:04:10 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/30/2023 2:28 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 12:33:20 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote: >>
    On 6/29/2023 8:11 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Perhaps like President Brandon, you are confusing Iraq with Ukraine. >>>>> Can you offer evidence that Russia has "lost" the Special Military
    Operation in Ukraine?
    Sure. Horrific losses, loss of territory, repeated moving of goal posts and now, the
    government has destabilized due to infighting among entities that have their own armies.
    Writing in his latest Substack article on Thursday, Seymour Hersh
    outlined the progress of Ukraine�s offensive operations, claiming it
    would need a �miracle� to reverse Russian gains after Moscow took �total >>> control� of the Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, and Zaporozhye regions.

    In the past couple of weeks, UA has taken back more land in the east than they lost in the
    battle for Bakhmut this year.

    Russia has gone from, "we'll take Kyiv in a few days" to, "we've built two defense lines
    around Moscow."

    That's winning, is it?

    Shoigu and Gerasimov are looking likely to be replaced and Putin is looking less likely to
    win next year's election.

    Putin's goal was to push back on NATO. Instead, he's doubled the amount of NATO border he
    has to guard, increased NATO membership by one with one more pending and the entire
    alliance swearing to admit Ukraine after the war.

    Meanwhile, Putin's CSTO is unraveling as it's members quarrel with each other and China
    has swept in and made new allies among old SSRs while other Federation regions flirt with
    their own independence movements.

    Putin is now seen as weak and a fool. The Russian military has gone from the second
    strongest on earth to the second strongest in Russia.

    Winning? LOL!

    Swill

    While you laugh and point at Putin and Russia, Texas just became
    majority "Hispanic" due to Biden's refusal to enforce immigration laws

    So?

    and prevent a mostly "Hispanic" (Mestizo) foreign invasion on our
    border.

    Ah! You don't want to discuss Russia and Ukraine anymore? Since you've been boosting for
    the losing side, I shouldn't wonder.

    New York's and Chicago's mayors are complaining about the
    burden of "asylum seekers" being bused into their respective cities.

    So?
    If I were the comedian running Ukraine or the President of Taiwan,

    . . . if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its ass every time it hopped.

    I would
    not take seriously the "guarantees" of Biden or the E.U. or NATO (since >European "leaders" are allowing the invasion of Europe by "asylum
    seekers" and making threats to Hungary and Poland for resisting the
    Great Replacement).

    They're doing the smart thing. Letting the best, brightest and most ambitious in. Those
    are the sort that produce for an economy.

    I'd rather have a President doing a poor job of
    invading a hostile nation on our border that is delivering invaders to
    do their invading than one who is aiding and abetting the invaders from >Mexico to take over our country.

    Ah, so you LIKE the idea of invading innocent neighbors?

    To put the matter in perspective: Today, Russia controls about 17
    percent of the territory that was previously Ukraine�s.

    Nine months ago it controlled 24%.

    If Ukrainian
    forces are no more successful in the weeks ahead than they have been so
    far, Ukraine will not recapture all of its territory for 16 years.

    Anybody seen Gerasimov lately?

    ROTFLMAO!

    Swill
    --
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    battlefield?

    A burning Russian on a Ukrainian battlefield!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

    Go here to donate to Ukrainian relief. <https://www2.deloitte.com/ua/uk/pages/registration-forms/help-cities.html>

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  • From Duke Mantee@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Jun 30 20:14:49 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On 6/30/2023 6:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Ah! You don't want to discuss Russia and Ukraine anymore? Since you've been boosting for
    the losing side, I shouldn't wonder.

    It ain't over until the fat lady sings. Since you've already picked the
    winner and loser in the American proxy war, you might like to know you
    are in "good" company.

    https://thegrayzone.com/2023/06/26/russias-civil-war-beltway-expert/

    The real casualties of Russia’s ‘civil war’: the Beltway expert class
    MAX BLUMENTHAL AND WYATT REED·JUNE 26, 2023

    Numerous serious casualties were incurred during Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin’s supposed “coup.” The Grayzone offers an in-depth look at the massacre carried out by some of America’s top Russia experts against
    their own credibility.
    When Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin launched a supposed revolt
    against Russian President Vladimir Putin on June 23, sending his forces
    on a march toward Moscow following a series of tirades against the
    country’s defense establishment, Washington’s expert class overflowed
    with an orgy of regime change fantasies.

    For just over 12 hours, everyone from former US ambassador to Russia and
    noted Hitler apologist Michael McFaul to Ukrainian President Volodymyr
    Zelensky to neocon pundit Anne Applebaum exploded with seemingly
    libidinal excitement about a supposed “civil war” that was certain to feature “Russians…killing Russians,” along with “lots of casualties” and
    Putin “probably hiding somewhere.”

    It was as though the Soviet Union was collapsing all over again, and
    Prigozhin, a character named on the FBI’s most wanted list whom the US government has sanctioned for leading what it described as a
    “transnational criminal organization,” was suddenly a white knight
    storming into Moscow to liberate Russia from “the Putin regime” on the
    back of a tank. Move over, Juan Guaido.

    Expecting a bloodbath and seismic political upheaval, corporate networks
    like CNN had budgeted wall-to-wall coverage of the coup that wasn’t,
    filling cable news green rooms with rent-a-generals, K Street think
    tankers, and war-hungry former diplomatic corps hacks.

    On the afternoon of June 24, however, news broke across the US that
    Prigozhin had struck a deal with Belarusian President Alexander
    Lukashenko to end his protest and go into exile. Thus ended a largely
    bloodless affair that ultimately saw fewer documented deaths than the
    January 6 Capitol Riot.

    Though the supposed revolt in Russia burned out faster than a Leopard
    tank on the way to Zaporizhzhia, we now know that a number of serious casualties were incurred inside the DC Beltway. The Grayzone obtained an exclusive look at the massacre some of America’s top Russia experts
    carried out against their own credibility.

    McFaul McFails, again
    Ever since he was unceremoniously ejected from Moscow for apparently
    attempting to organize a color revolution in 2012, Ambassador Michael
    McFaul has waged a personal jihad against the country’s government. His hatred of the Russian leadership grew so impassioned that he once
    declared that Putin was morally inferior to Adolf Hitler, embracing a
    fringe view associated with Holocaust deniers that asserts the Nazi
    dictator “didn’t kill German-speaking people.”

    When the events of June 23 kicked off, McFaul could hardly contain
    himself. The disgraced diplomat immediately took to Twitter to insist
    without a shred of evidence to claim that Putin “has ordered his army
    and others to destroy Wagner & Prigozhin.”

    “So there’s going to be a big fight,” he promised.

    As for the Russian President, McFaul confidently declared: “I am sure
    that he is no longer in Moscow.” Just after noon on June 24, he seemed
    to believe the Russian president’s demise was imminent. “Rats are jumping” from Putin’s ship, he effused, referring to oligarch Arkady Rotenberg taking a flight to Azerbaijan. “This is now a civil war,” the self-styled expert confidently declared.


    But around 1:30 PM on June 24, the unwelcome news had made its way to Washington: Putin and Prigozhin had reached an agreement. There was to
    be no civil war in Russia, after all.

    McFaul was suddenly forced to reckon with the reality that his
    predictions of a coup were premature, and that virtually everything he
    had said hours before was completely wrong. “Can anyone remember a
    mutiny or coup attempt that lasted 24 hours and no one really fought or
    was killed?,” pondered the retired diplomat, seemingly coming to grips
    with the obvious.

    Then, like an alcoholic in denial after yet another blackout, McFaul
    whimpered, “I was wrong about this. Eager to learn why.”




    Anne Applebaum: “Russia is sliding into what can only be described as a
    civil war”
    This May, anti-Russian pseudo-scholar and former Iraq war cheerleader
    Anne Applebaum predicted a decisive Ukrainian counter-offensive that
    would storm through Russian defenses and not only “liberate” Crimea, but encourage regime change from Moscow to Venezuela.

    In an article co-authored by former Israeli prison guard and Atlantic
    Magazine editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, and illustrated by the Davos frontman, Bono, (with apparent help from an Etch-a-Sketch), Applebaum
    openly fantasized about a madman taking control of Russia’s nuclear
    arsenal. “Even the worst successor imaginable,” she wrote, “even the bloodiest general or most rabid propagandist, will immediately be
    preferable to Putin, because he will be weaker than Putin. He will
    quickly become the focus of an intense power struggle.”

    By June 24, Applebaum seemed to believe her fever dreams were coming
    true. And it was then that she breathlessly announced, “Russia is
    sliding into what can only be described as a civil war. ”

    “If you are surprised, maybe you shouldn’t be,” she lectured readers, just hours before the bloodless “coup” came to a conclusion.


    Applebaum’s husband is the former foreign minister of Poland, Radek
    Sikorski, who infamously tweeted his gratitude to the US government for destroying the Nord Stream pipeline. While Sikorski deleted his tweet, Applebaum’s thoroughly discredited “civil war” article remains on the website of the Atlantic.

    On June 25, Applebaum and McFaul were rewarded for their badly botched
    analysis with an appearance on MSNBC’s “Inside with Jen Psaki,” which is hosted by the Biden White House’s former press secretary.


    Volodymyr Zelensky: Putin is “very afraid”
    “The man from the Kremlin is obviously very afraid and probably hiding somewhere, not showing himself,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky proclaimed on June 24. According to fact checkers, Zelensky did not
    issue this bold statement from inside a bunker or in front of a green
    screen.



    The US intelligence “community” claims “surprise”
    On Sunday, CNN reported that US intelligence analysts were taken by
    surprise by “the swiftness of the deal that was struck on Saturday.”

    What’s more, they believed that Prigozhin’s march toward Moscow “would encounter much more resistance” than it did.

    “I do know that we assessed it was going to be a great deal more violent
    and bloody,” an unnamed US official reportedly told the outlet.

    But DC’s disappointment with the lack of carnage on Moscow streets did
    not end there.

    Kurt Volker declares “the end” for Putin
    Kurt Volker is a former US special representative for Ukraine
    negotiations who also operated as a de facto Raytheon lobbyist while
    serving as the executive director of the John McCain Institute. Volker
    also functioned as a liaison for US and Ukrainian business interests
    while presiding over the founding of American University Kyiv.

    During a June 24 CNN appearance, Volker declared that the brief moment
    of disorder in Russia marked “the end for Putin” and “the beginning of the end of Russia’s war in Ukraine.”

    Christo Grozev: Bellingcat’s neocon-stradumus
    Christo Grozev is the Russia director of the US and UK government-funded website Bellingcat. This April, Grozev celebrated a terrorist attack
    that saw a Russian war blogger assassinated and a cafe full of civilians
    blown up in St. Petersburg, Russia.

    With chaos seemingly intensifying inside the Russian Federation again,
    Grozev suddenly transformed from a glorified OSINT blogger into a
    geopolitical soothsayer with a unique ability to divine the fate of the Kremlin.

    “Prigozhin says he’s got 25k strong army and he’s going to take power
    and deal with the ‘traitors’ at the top of before returning to the front line,” the Bellingcat commentator claimed on Twitter. “Am old enough to remember how Russia ‘pundits’ said I was talking nonsense predicting a Prigozhin coup attempt this year.”

    Having not been born literally yesterday, we at The Grayzone are
    thankfully old enough to remember when Prigozhin’s “coup attempt” failed to materialize and ended quickly with negotiations.

    Our memory is so long, in fact, that we recall when the war prophet
    Grozev stated that Russia had expended 70 percent of its precision
    missile stocks back in April 2022. Since then, Russian missile strikes
    on Ukrainian targets have only increased.

    Ian Bremmer, the Peter Hotez of international relations
    As president of the Eurasia Group risk analysis firm, political
    scientist Ian Bremmer has leveraged his supposed expertise into a
    lucrative business.

    Bremmer recently weighed in in defense of the absurdly double-talking pediatrician and pundit Peter Hotez, defending his decision not to
    debate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Covid-related issues on the grounds that
    Hotez was a credentialed expert, and RFK Jr. was not. “It would be like
    me debating elon [Musk] on electric vehicles. Or him debating me on international relations,” Bremmer argued, asserting his own superior credentials. “There’s no value added.”

    During the events of June 23, Bremmer joined the rest of the Beltway
    expert class in predicting imminent doom for Putin. “wagner territorial
    gains in russia dramatically faster than in ukraine,” Bremmer wrote in a viral post seen by more than 1 million Twitter users. Moments later, he
    joked that “ukraine has run out of popcorn,” implying that Kiev was
    eagerly preparing for Russia’s collapse.


    Following the announcement of Wagner’s stand-down on June 24, an
    apparently disappointed Bremmer insisted “there’s no environment where [Putin and Prigozhin] hug it out.”

    Top Biden officials’ travel plans interrupted
    Among the most overlooked victims of the brief march on Moscow were high-ranking US officials’ weekend plans.

    On Saturday, a spokesman for the Joint Chiefs of Staff announced that a
    planned visit to Jordan and Israel by Gen. Mark Milley, the top military officer in the US, had been canceled “due to the situation in Russia.”

    Biden administration National Security Council director and possible
    human scarecrow Jake Sullivan was forced to cancel a trip as well.
    Sullivan had reportedly been slated to attend a conference on Ukraine in Denmark until Prigozhin decided to make a trip of his own toward
    Rostov-on-Don.

    Stephen King, lost in fantasy
    Horror author-turned-liberal Russiagate conspiracist Stephen King, who
    once praised Ukrainian Nazi collaborator and Holocaust perpetrator
    Stepan Bandera in a phone call with a prankster he believed to be
    Volodymyr Zelensky, was clearly titillated by the events of June 23.
    When Prigozhin’s forces briefly took over the city of Rostov-on-Don,
    King once again proved unable to contain his overactive imagination.
    “Putin sowed the wind. Now he must reap the whirlwind. Slava Ukraini!”
    he exclaimed.


    Noted online stalker Idrees Ahmad predicts “the death of Aaron Mate’s career”
    Idress Ahmad once existed on the margins of the UK’s antiwar movement, publishing a book attacking the Iraq war-era neocon cabal, suggesting
    Senators Barbara Boxer and Russ Feingold voted for Iran sanctions
    because they are Jewish, and openly questioning the West’s narrative of
    a genocide in Darfur.

    After running into financial trouble and escaping deportation to his
    native Pakistan “against the odds” thanks to a Home Office decision that remains unexplained, Ahmad transformed into the very thing he once
    condemned.

    Having re-emerged as a rabid supporter of the West’s dirty war on Syria, Ahmad busied himself by stalking The Grayzone, even phoning its editor,
    Max Blumenthal, to threaten him against publishing a factual
    investigation of the Syrian White Helmets in 2016.

    While Ahmad’s recent work at the spook-infested Newlines think tank has failed to generate much interest, even among his fellow regime change cheerleaders, we noticed his June 24 prophecy that Prigozhin’s “coup” would lead to the collapse of The Grayzone, the international committee
    of the Democratic Socialists of America, and “the death of Aaron Mate’s career.”


    At the time of publication, we are still triggering Ahmad’s rage-a-holic personality while his own media career has gone about as far as
    Prigozhin’s march toward Moscow.



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  • From Siri Cruise@21:1/5 to Governor Swill on Fri Jun 30 20:42:03 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    Governor Swill wrote:
    Anybody seen Gerasimov lately?

    ROTFLMAO!


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  • From Governor Swill@21:1/5 to Duke Mantee on Sun Jul 2 00:07:36 2023
    XPost: alt.survival, alt.politics.eu, alt.politics.usa
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

    On Fri, 30 Jun 2023 20:14:49 -0600, Duke Mantee <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 6/30/2023 6:51 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
    Ah! You don't want to discuss Russia and Ukraine anymore? Since you've been boosting for
    the losing side, I shouldn't wonder.

    It ain't over until the fat lady sings. Since you've already picked the >winner and loser in the American proxy war, you might like to know you
    are in "good" company.

    https://thegrayzone.com/2023/06/26/russias-civil-war-beltway-expert/

    The real casualties of Russia�s �civil war�: the Beltway expert class
    MAX BLUMENTHAL AND WYATT REED�JUNE 26, 2023

    Numerous serious casualties were incurred during Wagner chief Yevgeny >Prigozhin�s supposed �coup.�

    <snip irrelevance>

    Speculation notwithstanding, the fact that there is division to the point of rebellion is
    what's significant. Not only Wagner, but other Russian private armies now exist. Even
    Gazprom (which flies the USSR flag in front of its headquarters, btw) has a private army.
    All these mercenaries indicate an inherent instability and distrust of the State that you
    won't find anywhere else but unstable banana republics and authoritarian based vassal
    states. And speaking of vassal states, how long before Muscovites have to learn Chinese
    to get along?

    Swill
    --
    Welcome to reality. Enjoy your visit!

    Heroyam slava! Glory to the Heroes!

    Sl�va Ukraj�ni! Glory to Ukraine! Putin is a condom!

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