On 21 Jul 2025, Jim the Geordie <[email protected]> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

I was uninstalling some apps I no longer use and see there are
several files which include 'Apple' in their name, e.g. Apple
Application Support (32-bit), Apple Application Support (64-bit),
Apple Mobile Device Support and Apple Software Update. Bonjour?
I have no Apple devices.
Should I uninstall them or leave well alone?

I am not short of space on Windows 10.

I have those on one of my computers that used to have iTunes on it. I
have some codecs that allow me to encode and decode some Apple-format
audio files. I leave those folders there so as not to risk the codec.
They don't take up much space.

I seem to recall that Bonjour can run as a service. You might check
that and disable it if possible.

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2025 11:26:01 -0400, Nil wrote:

On 21 Jul 2025, Jim the Geordie <[email protected]> wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10:

I was uninstalling some apps I no longer use and see there are
several files which include 'Apple' in their name, e.g. Apple
Application Support (32-bit), Apple Application Support (64-bit),
Apple Mobile Device Support and Apple Software Update. Bonjour?
I have no Apple devices.
Should I uninstall them or leave well alone?

I am not short of space on Windows 10.

I have those on one of my computers that used to have iTunes on it. I
have some codecs that allow me to encode and decode some Apple-format
audio files. I leave those folders there so as not to risk the codec.
They don't take up much space.

I seem to recall that Bonjour can run as a service. You might check
that and disable it if possible.

Jim, did you ever have iTunes installed? If so you will want to go
into services.msc and change Bonjour Service, iPod Service, and Apple
Mobile Device to startup type Disabled.

iTunes, if you have it, will run just fine with those services
disabled. You'll get a popup "The software required for communicating
... repair this or you?" Tick the box "Do not show this message
again" and click No.

Unlike you, I do have an iPod, so I use this batch file to enable the
iPod service temporarily when I want to sync it to iTunes:

setlocal disableextensions
sc config "iPod Service" start= demand
net start "iPod Service"
start "iTunes" /wait "C:\Program Files (x86)\iTunes\iTunes.exe"
net stop "iPod Service"
sc config "iPod Service" start= disabled
endlocal

It needs to be run as administrator.

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I was uninstalling some apps I no longer use and see there are several
files which include 'Apple' in their name, e.g. Apple Application
Support (32-bit), Apple Application Support (64-bit), Apple Mobile
Device Support and Apple Software Update. Bonjour?
I have no Apple devices.
Should I uninstall them or leave well alone?

I am not short of space on Windows 10.
--
Jim the Geordie

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On 21/07/2025 16:18, Jim the Geordie wrote:

I am not short of space on Windows 10.

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On 2025-07-21 17:18, Jim the Geordie wrote:

I was uninstalling some apps I no longer use and see there are several
files which include 'Apple' in their name, e.g. Apple Application
Support (32-bit), Apple Application Support (64-bit), Apple Mobile
Device Support and Apple Software Update. Bonjour?
I have no Apple devices.
Should I uninstall them or leave well alone?

I am not short of space on Windows 10.

If they were not installed because of using any Apple device in the
past, I would leave them alone. They were installed by Windows.

Bonjour, for example, "implements Zeroconf, a service discovery
protocol". I'm familiar with it because it also exists on Linux. It is
generic, not only an Apple thing.

Other things you mentioned are probably there in order to be able to
connect an Apple phone, same as other exists to connect other brands phones.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-21 17:18, Jim the Geordie wrote:

I was uninstalling some apps I no longer use and see there are several
files which include 'Apple' in their name, e.g. Apple Application
Support (32-bit), Apple Application Support (64-bit), Apple Mobile
Device Support and Apple Software Update. Bonjour?
I have no Apple devices.
Should I uninstall them or leave well alone?

I am not short of space on Windows 10.

If they were not installed because of using any Apple device in the
past, I would leave them alone. They were installed by Windows.

Bonjour, for example, "implements Zeroconf, a service discovery
protocol". I'm familiar with it because it also exists on Linux. It is generic, not only an Apple thing.

Other things you mentioned are probably there in order to be able to
connect an Apple phone, same as other exists to connect other brands
phones.

I just ran a Search on my C: drive for "Apple", and I got what looks
like thousands of hits. Mind you I've been using iTunes on it for
decades, backing up several iPads and iPhones.
It all works well enough, but iTunes is famously clunky and heavy. But,
as I say, they work; and they give me the backup security.

However, with a 500Gb C: partition (more than half of it still empty),
it's better to leave well enough alone.

Ed

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On Tue, 7/22/2025 5:44 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:

Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-07-21 17:18, Jim the Geordie wrote:

I was uninstalling some apps I no longer use and see there are several files which include 'Apple' in their name, e.g. Apple Application Support (32-bit), Apple Application Support (64-bit), Apple Mobile Device Support and Apple Software Update.

Bonjour?

I have no Apple devices.
Should I uninstall them or leave well alone?

I am not short of space on Windows 10.

If they were not installed because of using any Apple device in the past, I would leave them alone. They were installed by Windows.

Bonjour, for example, "implements Zeroconf, a service discovery protocol". I'm familiar with it because it also exists on Linux. It is generic, not only an Apple thing.

Other things you mentioned are probably there in order to be able to connect an Apple phone, same as other exists to connect other brands phones.

I just ran a Search on my C: drive for "Apple", and I got what looks like thousands of hits. Mind you I've been using iTunes on it for decades, backing up several iPads and iPhones.
It all works well enough, but iTunes is famously clunky and heavy. But, as I say, they work; and they give me the backup security.

However, with a 500Gb C: partition (more than half of it still empty), it's better to leave well enough alone.

Ed

iTunes is a "wedge" for Apple.

It allowed them to inject "QuickTime Support" on Windows boxes.
(iTunes doesn't really need movie playback particularly,
the movie capability was later removed.)

The Bonjour thing, the Windows system already has something for that.

"Bonjour provides a general method to discover services on a local area network"

"Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) is a set of networking protocols...
that permits networked devices... to seamlessly discover each
other's presence on the network"

It's quite possible, nothing other than iTunes on your machine, uses Bonjour.

The iTunes package used to have five .msi inside it. The subsystems were independent enough, that you didn't have to install all five .msi . Then,
they changed the software, so the software "depended" on the materials
to even start, forcing the issue of injecting all five .msi .

Then later, when Apple was whining about the "amount of support needed
to counter exploits", they removed QuickTime (which didn't absolutely
need to be in the product in the first place).

If someone else had written the software, it could undoubtedly have been
a lot simpler.

Paul

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