• Microsoft is retiring the infamous 'blue screen of death'

    From Shitty Indian Programmers@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 10:58:48 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.windows.blue-screen-of-death, sac.politics
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    The dreaded �blue screen of death� that has tormented millions of Windows
    users for decades is being put to rest.

    Microsoft is ditching the notorious feature that appears on Windows
    computers in the coming months, �streamlining the unexpected restart experience� with a new black-colored screen, the company announced in a
    blog post.

    The �simplified� screen that appears during �unexpected restarts� will
    roll out later this summer on all Windows 11 devices that use 24H2
    operating software. It will also reduce reboots to �about two seconds for
    most users,� the company said.

    Variations of the �blue screen of death� have been in use since the early 1990s. It started with the �blue screen of unhappiness� in Windows 3.1
    when the control-alt-delete shortcut was added to exit an unresponsive
    program, along with dialogue written by former Microsoft CEO Steve
    Ballmer.

    But according to Microsoft employee Raymond Chen, the actual �blue screen
    of death� launched in 1993 on Windows NT when the �system is unrecoverably
    dead at this point.�

    Also, a version of the black screen was introduced in 2021 to Windows 11
    users. This new iteration has updated dialogue.

    The blue screen haunted millions of people last July when a massive outage caused by CrowdStrike brought most of the world�s technology to its knees
    and Windows-operated machines displayed the infamous blue.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/tech/microsoft-blue-screen-of-death-changes

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to Shitty Indian Programmers on Sun Jul 20 21:15:44 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.windows.blue-screen-of-death

    On 20/07/2025 6:58 pm, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:
    The dreaded “blue screen of death” that has tormented millions of Windows users for decades is being put to rest.

    Microsoft is ditching the notorious feature that appears on Windows
    computers in the coming months, “streamlining the unexpected restart experience” with a new black-colored screen, the company announced in a blog post.

    So the BSOD will remain the BSOD, just changing Blue to Black!!

    How useful. ;-P
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    Daniel70

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  • From John@21:1/5 to [email protected] on Sun Jul 20 12:58:33 2025
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 21:15:44 +1000, Daniel70
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 20/07/2025 6:58 pm, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:
    The dreaded “blue screen of death” that has tormented millions of Windows
    users for decades is being put to rest.

    Microsoft is ditching the notorious feature that appears on Windows
    computers in the coming months, “streamlining the unexpected restart
    experience” with a new black-colored screen, the company announced in a
    blog post.

    So the BSOD will remain the BSOD, just changing Blue to Black!!

    Hmmmm ...


    How useful. ;-P

    Would it be a little better, and more useful, to have it changed to
    Brown SOD? On the principle that when we get one we should be ever so
    slightly not very calm?

    In WinXP, or maybe WinME, I once changed the BSOD default colour to
    something nice and cool such as a dark yellow but I'm not entirely
    sure how I managed it.

    It was probably XP as I remember ME never crashing on me. XP,
    however, fell over a lot. It was probably a hex-hack inside a system
    file, something which was far easier to do in those days.

    Perhaps Microsoft could give us a "HAL" type eye-light and a nice,
    friendly "I am sorry but I can not do that, <<User>>" vocalisation
    instead of the garish, horrible, far-too-bright and terminally boring
    Blue screen?

    I really dislike the idea of a black screen. If we got one of those
    and the textual error message didn't pop-up that would be quite
    worrying.

    J.

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Shitty Indian Programmers on Sun Jul 20 14:11:39 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.windows.blue-screen-of-death, sac.politics
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 2025-07-20 09:58, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:

    Microsoft is ditching the notorious feature that appears on Windows
    computers in the coming months, “streamlining the unexpected restart experience” with a new black-colored screen, the company announced in a blog post.

    That a PC automatically reboots after a BSOD, whatever the background
    colour, is one of the stupidest default Windows settings, which I always change, because it means that if the fault that has developed prevents
    the computer rebooting successfully and so causes another BSOD, the
    machine reboots indefinitely, making it very difficult to get to read
    the message, and so discover what is actually wrong. The only way I've
    found is to video the process with a phone and then step through the
    resulting video until the BSOD is displayed, but things would be so much simpler if the default setting was to display the screen indefinitely
    until a user intervenes.

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  • From s|b@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 17:08:13 2025
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:58:48 +0200 (CEST), Shitty Indian Programmers
    wrote:

    Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11,
    alt.comp.windows.blue-screen-of-death, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    Meh.

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    s|b

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Sun Jul 20 11:51:22 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.windows.blue-screen-of-death, sac.politics
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Sun, 7/20/2025 9:11 AM, Java Jive wrote:
    On 2025-07-20 09:58, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:

    Microsoft is ditching the notorious feature that appears on Windows
    computers in the coming months, “streamlining the unexpected restart
    experience” with a new black-colored screen, the company announced in a
    blog post.

    That a PC automatically reboots after a BSOD, whatever the background colour, is one of the stupidest default Windows settings, which I always change, because it means that if the fault that has developed prevents the computer rebooting successfully
    and so causes another BSOD, the machine reboots indefinitely, making it very difficult to get to read the message, and so discover what is actually wrong.  The only way I've found is to video the process with a phone and then step through the resulting
    video until the BSOD is displayed, but things would be so much simpler if the default setting was to display the screen indefinitely until a user intervenes.


    Imagine if the STOP code was in 108 point font, so you could read it.

    Oh, well. Same old, same old.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/63N82L5r/New-BSOD-via-My-Fault-push-button.gif

    Paul

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to John on Sun Jul 20 17:26:54 2025
    On 2025/7/20 12:58:33, John wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 21:15:44 +1000, Daniel70
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    []

    So the BSOD will remain the BSOD, just changing Blue to Black!!

    Hmmmm ...


    How useful. ;-P

    Would it be a little better, and more useful, to have it changed to
    Brown SOD? On the principle that when we get one we should be ever so slightly not very calm?

    In WinXP, or maybe WinME, I once changed the BSOD default colour to something nice and cool such as a dark yellow but I'm not entirely
    sure how I managed it.

    I remember that hack (but not what it was) - someone posted (or it might
    even have been in a magazine!) how to change the foreground and
    background colours of the BSOD; I think it was under '9x or XP.>
    It was probably XP as I remember ME never crashing on me. XP,
    however, fell over a lot. It was probably a hex-hack inside a system
    file, something which was far easier to do in those days.

    I have a feeling it was! I _think_ it told us how to change a few other
    colours too, but it was a Long Time Ago. I went for an orange background
    - can't remember what text (black maybe?).>
    Perhaps Microsoft could give us a "HAL" type eye-light and a nice,
    friendly "I am sorry but I can not do that, <<User>>" vocalisation
    instead of the garish, horrible, far-too-bright and terminally boring
    Blue screen?

    I really dislike the idea of a black screen. If we got one of those
    and the textual error message didn't pop-up that would be quite
    worrying.

    J.
    The switch to other than an 80 by 24 (25?) character mode (fixed font)
    screen - not sure when, 7 or 10 I think - also unsettled me. (To be
    fair, it was very rare - I think I may not have _seen_ a BSOD from 7 on. Certainly I don't think I've had one in the two months or so I've been
    using 10 [apparently "Build 19041.vb_release 191206-1406" according to
    the bottom right of my screen, "22H2" and "19045.6093" according to
    Control Panel | System].)>


    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Q. Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip?
    A. To get to the same side.

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  • From Stan Brown@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 10:50:00 2025
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 17:08:13 +0200, s|b wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 10:58:48 +0200 (CEST), a troll
    wrote:
    [crap]

    Meh.


    Spammers will spam, and trolls will troll, and there's nothing we can
    do about it. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent
    people reward their spamming and trolling by reposting it and
    responding, encouraging them to persist in their antisocial behavior.

    --
    After using my real address in 37 years of Usenet articles,
    I am now reluctantly posting a fake address because of the
    large number of sites scraping Usenet articles without
    permission and putting them on their own pretend forum sites.

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  • From BSOD Maker@21:1/5 to Shitty Indian Programmers on Sun Jul 20 18:04:24 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On 20/07/2025 09:58, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:


    Sneha Ramachandran, Software Engineer, Microsoft has created "Visual
    Studio's Remote File Explorer". You'll learn a thing or two if you pay attention to what she has to say about it to educate obese Americans!.

    <https://youtu.be/_8plZbYaV40?si=KDFLb4pgD-g4gDBB>

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  • From BSOD Maker@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 17:44:35 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.windows.blue-screen-of-death

    On 20/07/2025 12:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    So the BSOD will remain the BSOD, just changing Blue to Black!!

    How useful.

    Yes so that you can still use the acronym BSOD to mean "Black Screen of
    Death". Black tie and black jacket is not obligatory for the funeral!

    <https://bsodmaker.net/>

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  • From Mark Lloyd@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Sun Jul 20 18:44:36 2025
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 17:26:54 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    [snip]

    In WinXP, or maybe WinME, I once changed the BSOD default colour to
    something nice and cool such as a dark yellow but I'm not entirely sure
    how I managed it.

    I remember that hack (but not what it was) - someone posted (or it might
    even have been in a magazine!) how to change the foreground and
    background colours of the BSOD; I think it was under '9x or XP.>

    I remember having a way to change it in 9x. I made it RED, which seemed
    more appropriate to something messing up (although brown could be good
    too).

    BTW, the new Ubuntu seems to have a MSOD (Magenta Screen Of Death).

    [snip]

    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "When people learn no tools of judgment and merely follow their hopes,
    the seeds of political manipulation are sown." [Stephen Jay Gould]

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Shitty Indian Programmers on Mon Jul 21 10:18:37 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns

    On 20/07/2025 09:58, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:
    The dreaded “blue screen of death” that has tormented millions of Windows users for decades is being put to rest.

    snip <

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/tech/microsoft-blue-screen-of-death-changes


    Not exactly 'News'. I read about this months ago.

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    wasbit

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to BSOD Maker on Mon Jul 21 21:27:13 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.windows.blue-screen-of-death

    On 21/07/2025 3:44 am, BSOD Maker wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 12:15, Daniel70 wrote:
    So the BSOD will remain the BSOD, just changing Blue to Black!!

    How useful.

    Yes so that you can still use the acronym BSOD to mean "Black Screen of Death". Black tie and black jacket is not obligatory for the funeral!

    <https://bsodmaker.net/>

    Hmm! Is my clicking that link going to CAUSE a BSOD?? ;=P
    --
    Daniel70

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  • From Daniel70@21:1/5 to John on Mon Jul 21 21:24:42 2025
    On 20/07/2025 9:58 pm, John wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 21:15:44 +1000, Daniel70
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 6:58 pm, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:
    The dreaded “blue screen of death” that has tormented millions of Windows
    users for decades is being put to rest.

    Microsoft is ditching the notorious feature that appears on Windows
    computers in the coming months, “streamlining the unexpected restart
    experience” with a new black-colored screen, the company announced in a >>> blog post.

    So the BSOD will remain the BSOD, just changing Blue to Black!!

    Hmmmm ...

    How useful. ;-P

    Would it be a little better, and more useful, to have it changed to
    Brown SOD? On the principle that when we get one we should be ever so slightly not very calm?

    It would be a little better if the BSOD included a BUTTON which would
    allow me to send MS the relevant data that caused the FAILURE .... so, hopefully, MS could do something about fixing it .... maybe even fixing
    the most popular BSOD of the month cause!!
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    Daniel70

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 21 08:30:22 2025
    On Mon, 7/21/2025 7:24 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 9:58 pm, John wrote:
    On Sun, 20 Jul 2025 21:15:44 +1000, Daniel70
    <[email protected]> wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 6:58 pm, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:
    The dreaded “blue screen of death” that has tormented millions of Windows
    users for decades is being put to rest.

    Microsoft is ditching the notorious feature that appears on Windows
    computers in the coming months, “streamlining the unexpected restart >>>> experience” with a new black-colored screen, the company announced in a >>>> blog post.

    So the BSOD will remain the BSOD, just changing Blue to Black!!

      Hmmmm ...

    How useful. ;-P

      Would it be a little better, and more useful, to have it changed to
    Brown SOD? On the principle that when we get one we should be ever so
    slightly not very calm?

    It would be a little better if the BSOD included a BUTTON which would allow me
    to send MS the relevant data that caused the FAILURE .... so, hopefully, MS could
    do something about fixing it .... maybe even fixing the most popular BSOD of the month cause!!

    You can trigger that behavior, by reporting a bug on the Feedback Hub.

    Depending on the nature of the bug, you will see an upload run for
    around an hour, as some reporting subsystem collects Event Viewer info
    and so on, to attach to the bug automatically.

    Feedback Hub reports are unidirectional. You don't know the status or disposition of your bug, once you've sent it.

    The one in this picture (from TheVerge), the staff know what this one is.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/63N82L5r/New-BSOD-via-My-Fault-push-button.gif

    Russinovich has a piece of software (not a part of Sysinternals as such),
    and there is an option in MyFault, to crash the system. Hobbyists use this,
    if they have modified the crash response of Windows, and they need to check that the right things happen on a kernel panic. The text at the bottom
    of the picture, indicates that's a synthetic crash done purely so the
    operator of the computer, could take a picture of the "new" BSOD screen.

    Paul

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to wasbit on Mon Jul 21 08:48:01 2025
    XPost: alt.comp.os.windows-11

    On Mon, 7/21/2025 5:18 AM, wasbit wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 09:58, Shitty Indian Programmers wrote:
    The dreaded “blue screen of death” that has tormented millions of Windows
    users for decades is being put to rest.

    snip <

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/27/tech/microsoft-blue-screen-of-death-changes >>

    Not exactly 'News'. I read about this months ago.


    They have been pissing around with this, for quite a while.
    Even when it was News, it was Non-News.

    There is still a STOP code and a faulting module, but they
    still haven't made the font big enough. Maybe if we wait a
    hundred years, they'll fix the font.

    The older the OS, the easier it would be to write the
    code, to write on the screen. It's not as easy today to do that.
    The video card module is in a container, on an Inverted Hypervisor.
    And the system has just crashed (whatever does that mean, to an
    Inverted Hypervisor system?). So this is more complicated than
    you might expect.

    One thing we don't know, is whether the memory writer got fixed.
    If you dump the entire memory, the older OSes were glacially slow
    at writing out the memory to disk. On machines with plenty of RAM,
    if you actually configured them for a "big memory dump", half the
    day could be wasted generating the trace. Normally the dumps
    on your machine would be minidumps of some sort, and not
    quite as taxing to write out.

    The BSOD itself isn't the torment, it's fixing the root cause
    that is the torment.

    The example used in the picture, you should recognize the source of that
    one. That's a program, where one of the features is crashing the system
    so you can check whether the BSOD works properly. If you have just
    configured Windows to do a Big Crash Dump, then you can use
    MyFault (Russinovich) to test it.

    [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/63N82L5r/New-BSOD-via-My-Fault-push-button.gif

    Paul

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