micky wrote:
Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and
probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm
doing and takes the computer's focus.
Sounds like a Eudora issue not Win10, nothing should steal focus all by >itself, so I wouldn't hold your hopes too high that Win11 will be any >different ... how old is your Eudora version?
Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and
probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm
doing and takes the computer's focus.
I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't
understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:52:36 +0000, Andy
Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
micky wrote:
Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and
probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm
doing and takes the computer's focus.
Sounds like a Eudora issue not Win10, nothing should steal focus all by
itself, so I wouldn't hold your hopes too high that Win11 will be any
different ... how old is your Eudora version?
2006. Aged in oak casks. I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.
I would think the OS is completely in charge of saving the previous
window and directing Alt-tab to the previous window. Unless Eudora had
one or two specific lines to go out of Eudora files and change the "PreviousWindow" value, and why would a sane programmer do that?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:52:36 +0000, Andy
Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
micky wrote:
Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and
probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm
doing and takes the computer's focus.
Sounds like a Eudora issue not Win10, nothing should steal focus all by
itself, so I wouldn't hold your hopes too high that Win11 will be any
different ... how old is your Eudora version?
2006. Aged in oak casks. I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.
I would think the OS is completely in charge of saving the previous
window and directing Alt-tab to the previous window. Unless Eudora had
one or two specific lines to go out of Eudora files and change the "PreviousWindow" value, and why would a sane programmer do that?
On 12/10/2024 12:05 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:52:36 +0000, Andy
Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
micky wrote:
Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and
probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm
doing and takes the computer's focus.
Sounds like a Eudora issue not Win10, nothing should steal focus all by
itself, so I wouldn't hold your hopes too high that Win11 will be any
different ... how old is your Eudora version?
2006. Aged in oak casks. I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't
understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.
I would think the OS is completely in charge of saving the previous
window and directing Alt-tab to the previous window. Unless Eudora had
one or two specific lines to go out of Eudora files and change the
"PreviousWindow" value, and why would a sane programmer do that?
I have the same problem with Excel. With every other app, I can switch >between two screens easily by doing Alt-Tab, even with several screens
open. But if one of them is Excel, I can alt-tab to the other but then
going back to the Excel screen the Alt-Tab doesn't always work.
If you do the Alt-Tab and hold down the ALt you can see all your screens >arranged. With non Excel screens, the two tabs I'm switching between
always arrange them selves as the top two screens.
But if the Excel
screen is 6th or 7th, it stays there, so Alt-Tab just goes back to the
top two screens. Sometimes I can shift to the Excel screen by doing >alt-shift-tab, but alt-tab doesn't usually work. In contrast, I never
had this problem with Win 7 where Alt-tab always worked even if one of
the apps was Excel
micky wrote:
I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't
understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.
I don't suppose Win-Tab does anything different?
On Tue, 12/10/2024 12:05 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:52:36 +0000, Andy
Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
micky wrote:
Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and
probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm
doing and takes the computer's focus.
Sounds like a Eudora issue not Win10, nothing should steal focus all by
itself, so I wouldn't hold your hopes too high that Win11 will be any
different ... how old is your Eudora version?
2006. Aged in oak casks. I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't
understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.
I would think the OS is completely in charge of saving the previous
window and directing Alt-tab to the previous window. Unless Eudora had
one or two specific lines to go out of Eudora files and change the
"PreviousWindow" value, and why would a sane programmer do that?
I have a Win7 and a Win11 open at the moment, and
alt-tab seems pretty well behaved to me. You have to
look at the graphic in the center of the screen, to
orient yourself, so you can advance to the window you want.
Maybe windows treats Metro.Apps and Win32 graphical windows differently.
You can check Task Manager, and see if the Session ID is weird. I see
my stuff is Session 1 and the system executables are in Session 0.
And if you are using fast user switching, another users programs might
be Session 2 or something. The Session number could mess with the
sequence of windows presented. Just a guess.
I don't know how many other ways there are of diverting attention
away from a window like that. There is bring window to front,
or bring window behind, and that seemed to have some dependency
on whether something was Run As Administrator. Would that have
the same Session Number ? Dunno.
Maybe some program like Explorer Patcher, Classic Shell,
StartIsBack is involved ?
Paul
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 15:52:16 -0500, Rick ><[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/10/2024 12:05 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:52:36 +0000, Andy
Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
micky wrote:
Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and >>>>> probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm >>>>> doing and takes the computer's focus.
Sounds like a Eudora issue not Win10, nothing should steal focus all by >>>> itself, so I wouldn't hold your hopes too high that Win11 will be any
different ... how old is your Eudora version?
2006. Aged in oak casks. I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't >>> understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.
I would think the OS is completely in charge of saving the previous
window and directing Alt-tab to the previous window. Unless Eudora had >>> one or two specific lines to go out of Eudora files and change the
"PreviousWindow" value, and why would a sane programmer do that?
I have the same problem with Excel. With every other app, I can switch >>between two screens easily by doing Alt-Tab, even with several screens >>open. But if one of them is Excel, I can alt-tab to the other but then >>going back to the Excel screen the Alt-Tab doesn't always work.
That's very intersting. I can't even imagine how complicated the code
must be to get this to work as well as it does.
If you do the Alt-Tab and hold down the ALt you can see all your screens >>arranged. With non Excel screens, the two tabs I'm switching between >>always arrange them selves as the top two screens.
Right. I don't look most of the time, but I still know what you mean.
But if the Excel
screen is 6th or 7th, it stays there, so Alt-Tab just goes back to the
top two screens. Sometimes I can shift to the Excel screen by doing >>alt-shift-tab, but alt-tab doesn't usually work. In contrast, I never
had this problem with Win 7 where Alt-tab always worked even if one of
the apps was Excel
This is cross posted to the Eudora ng, which is pretty dormant, but
there is also a Eudora mailing list tha tI posted to, and one guy there
says he's using win11 now and the problem is the same. ;-)
He is blind and this is a much bigger problem for him than for us. I
will suggest that he only dl mail when he chooses, not on a timer. When
we started mail took much longer to download and we wanted it in
background, but now maybe time doesn't matter. But I don't see how
this could be applied to Excel.
Of course it's not that serious for u s but the kind of people who read
this ng won't to fix every little thing, OR they are just curious about
such thing.
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