On 5/4/2024 11:17 AM, Newyana2 wrote:

��� I'll keep experimenting. I have to admit that I derive a
kind of perverse pleasure from all of this kind of fiddling. And
I mostly only use it to stream movies. So if it reverts to
a Windows background that's not a big deal. But I am curious
about where it stands now. If I had never let it call home to
activate, would 20H2 ever have even had the concept that
a Win7 key wasn't valid for an upgrade?

So you're saying it has never seen the network ?

Yes, that would be a weird state. I could
see it being confused. Then five seconds after
you connect the network cable, the machine
will have it all figured out.

Paul

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On 5/4/2024 7:55 PM, Paul wrote:

On 5/4/2024 11:17 AM, Newyana2 wrote:

��� I'll keep experimenting. I have to admit that I derive a
kind of perverse pleasure from all of this kind of fiddling. And
I mostly only use it to stream movies. So if it reverts to
a Windows background that's not a big deal. But I am curious
about where it stands now. If I had never let it call home to
activate, would 20H2 ever have even had the concept that
a Win7 key wasn't valid for an upgrade?

So you're saying it has never seen the network ?

Yes, that would be a weird state. I could
see it being confused. Then five seconds after
you connect the network cable, the machine
will have it all figured out.

It seems to be more like don't ask, don't tell. From the
start it seemed to be activated and had no restrictions. It
had no problem running the update from Win7, which 22H2
refused to do, as I mentioned earlier.

I did go online, downloading drivers, etc. It was fine until
I told it to make sure it was activated. Then it locked
personalization and decided that it wasn't activated.

It's possible that it would have activated. I'm not sure.
When I built a new Win10 machine and cleaned it up it
refused to activate with a legit key. I had to reinstall and
activate before I changed anything.

So I still don't know where it stands. Will a repeat
update remain licensed as long as I don't ask? Or would
it suddenly go bonkers after a month? I don't know.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 4 May 2024 01:22:06 -0400, Paul <[email protected]d> wrote:

On 5/3/2024 10:15 PM, Simon GAHHH Creator wrote:

On 04/05/2024 02:01, Newyana2 wrote:

 So, long story short, anyone who still wants to go from 7/8 to
10 should be able to do it with an older ISO. You just copy your
CD key on paper and use that when it asks for it. And of course,
it's best to unplug ethernet, though I don't have any reason
to think that would be a problem. But it might complicate matters,
with Win10 setup going out for updates.

As usual, you are talking complete and utter nonsense. It is not only
about installing Windows. It is also about giving consideration to
activation and Microsoft will NOT activate a product that has no valid
serial number. Windows 7 or Windows 8 serial numbers will not be
accepted at the time of activation. It might work to install Windows 10
or 11 but these days you don't need a serial number to install and try
the product for 30 days anyway. Serial number is required for activation
only so that users can customize their system. Without activation users
can't customize anything, let alone upgrade from 10 to 11 without losing
data.

The days of free upgrades are long gone. Microsoft has already changed
its mind while Mickey, the OP,  was looking for hookers in Guatemala.

Administrator Terminal:

slmgr /dlv

License Status : Licensed <=== This indicates whether a "trick" is working

Paul

Hey, I'm licensed. At least the box I'm using now. I saved this for my possibly futile attempts to upgrade another box.

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