Hello all,Wow!
My internet provider just send me a email that they are going to pull a google, and will switch off unencrypted connections to their mail servers at the end of this month.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3 connection
and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook express 6" part likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays SSL) I would like to
keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Reminder : it needs to run under XP.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses aWow!
POP3 connection
Hello all,
My internet provider just send me a email that they are going to pull a google, and will switch off unencrypted connections to their mail servers at the end of this month.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3 connection and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook express 6" part likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays SSL) I would like to
keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Reminder : it needs to run under XP.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Have you tried OE Classic?
As an alternative, you can use the older Thunderbird 52.9.1.
Like Firefox, the aplications don't use Windows' Cryptography library
(which in XP, doesn't support newer SSL chipers),
JJ,
Have you tried OE Classic?
I did take a look at it a few years ago. Wasn't too hapy with it adding a text ad in its outgoing email.
As an alternative, you can use the older Thunderbird 52.9.1.
This morning I visited the thunderbird download website, but as it didn't bother to mention which OS version(s) it supported and did not seem to have
a "old versions" page I got nowhere there. Thanks for the specific version number, thats something I can "google" for.
update: Found and downloaded it (https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/)
Like Firefox, the aplications don't use Windows' Cryptography library (which in XP, doesn't support newer SSL chipers),
:-) I know.
I also tried to find SSL updates for OE 6, but got nowhere there. :-\
In the mean time I found "Pegasus mail" v4.8.0 , and will probably take a peek at that one too.
My internet provider just send me a email that they are going to pull
a google, and will switch off unencrypted connections to their mail
servers at the end of this month.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3
connection and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook
express 6" part likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays
SSL) I would like to keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Reminder : it needs to run under
XP.
John,
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses aWow!
POP3 connection
:-) Like my ancient hammer and a number other tools it does everything I
need from it, and therefore do not have any reason to replace it with something that does exactly the same, but just with more bells-and-wistles attached to it (which I likely will never use ...).
Oh, I forgot, I'm using Sylpheed to access Usenet; it also (mostly)
does mail, but I've not set that part up.
https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
John,
Oh, I forgot, I'm using Sylpheed to access Usenet; it also (mostly)
does mail, but I've not set that part up.
https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
I found that webpage too, but it mentions Win7 at its lower "wil work with" end, and no obvious way to access a page with earlier versions.
Whoops, I just noticed the "All previous versions" link (under the what
looks like the linux versions), and from there there got to the https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/sylpheed/win32/ page. Alas, no mentioning of Windows version support there. :-|
And then they invented screws.
But it certainly runs under XP!
John,
But it certainly runs under XP!
Which version are you running on your XP machine ?
John,
But it certainly runs under XP!
Which version are you running on your XP machine ?
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
v3.7 works on XP.
Version 3.7.0 (Build 1185)
Does the latest version not work? I won't upgrade then.
Hello all,
My internet provider just send me a email that they are going to pull a google, and will switch off unencrypted connections to their mail servers at the end of this month.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3 connection and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook express 6" part likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays SSL) I would like to
keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Reminder : it needs to run under XP.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Odd. Thats the latest version, and the download page specifically mentions "for Windows 7 / 8 / 10".
But alright, I'm downloading it. Thanks.
Hmmm... The "readme" in the download also only mentions 7, 8 and 10. No
XP.
Here's a screenshot of it in an XP SP3 VM.
[snip image link]
Pegasus Mail?
On Fri, 5 May 2023 03:00:00 +0100, Jack <[email protected]> wrote:
On 03/05/2023 09:47, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,
My internet provider just send me a email that they are going to pull a
google, and will switch off unencrypted connections to their mail servers at
the end of this month.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3 connection >>> and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook express 6" part >>> likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays SSL) I would like to >>> keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Reminder : it needs to run under XP. >>>
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Pegasus Mail?
Many years ago, I used Pegasus Mail. I remember liking it, but I don't remember why I switched away from it.
So your recommendation stimulated me to take another look at it.
However it apparently doesn't support IMAP, so that rules it out for
me. Am I right? Doesn't support IMAP?
On 03/05/2023 09:47, R.Wieser wrote:
Hello all,
My internet provider just send me a email that they are going to pull a
google, and will switch off unencrypted connections to their mail servers at >> the end of this month.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3 connection >> and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook express 6" part >> likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays SSL) I would like to
keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Reminder : it needs to run under XP.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Pegasus Mail?
And alas, no "text only" mode avalable : email is, for some reason or another, supposed to be HTML. Same thing with OEClassic though., :-\
On Fri, 5 May 2023 08:14:04 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
And alas, no "text only" mode avalable : email is, for some reason or
another, supposed to be HTML. Same thing with OEClassic though., :-\
Not sure what you meant by "no text only mode", but Sylpheed is a text only >mail & news client. It doesn't support HTML at all.
HTML can be a privacy issue(if it loads remote images
etc using you user-ID) or at worst, dangerous.
As an alternative, you can use the older Thunderbird 52.9.1.
Not sure what you meant by "no text only mode", but Sylpheed is a text
only mail & news client.
It doesn't support HTML at all.
but no solution they could apply themselves it seems.
Whoops, I just noticed the "All previous versions" link (under the what
looks like the linux versions), and from there there got to the https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/sylpheed/win32/ page. Alas, no mentioning of Windows version support there. :-|
On 05/05/2023 20:40, R.Wieser wrote:
but no solution they could apply themselves it seems.
That may be the case but there is always a solution to all problems in
this world but these solutions may not appeal to everybody. I know the
answer to the question but I'll still ask you: Have you considered that
XP is no longer supported by anybody in this world? You are in a very
serious difficulties here because you'll find nothing works on XP. The
world has moved on. You just have to buy a new machine and start using
Linux that will last you for another 20 years minimum. No privacy issues
and all the internet features works.
I know the answer to the question
You are in a very serious difficulties here because you'll
find nothing works on XP.
You just have to buy a new machine and start using Linux
On 05/05/2023 20:40, R.Wieser wrote:
but no solution they could apply themselves it seems.
That may be the case but there is always a solution to all problems in
this world but these solutions may not appeal to everybody. I know the
answer to the question but I'll still ask you: Have you considered that
XP is no longer supported by anybody in this world? You are in a very
serious difficulties here because you'll find nothing works on XP. The
world has moved on. You just have to buy a new machine and start using
Linux that will last you for another 20 years minimum. No privacy issues
and all the internet features works.
I just installed and started it. The very first thing it tried to do was
to connect to a handfull of mozilla servers. Strike one.
It doesn't seem to have any accessible configuration where I can gouvern (stop!) such behaviour. Strike two.
Thunderbird (TB) has an advanced setting like in Firefox's `about:config`,
What we can do is to hijaak all of the phone-home URLs so that
it points to `localhost`
On Fri, 5 May 2023 21:40:20 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
I just installed and started it. The very first thing it tried to do was >> to connect to a handfull of mozilla servers. Strike one.
It doesn't seem to have any accessible configuration where I can gouvern
(stop!) such behaviour. Strike two.
Unfortunately, that is true and I'm completely agree with you.
Thunderbird (TB) has an advanced setting like in Firefox's `about:config`, it's just that for older TB versions, it's presented in a dialog rather than a tab, since older TB versions still use XUL.
However, it doesn't provide all of the needed settings such as disabling the phone-home. What we can do is to hijaak all of the phone-home URLs so that
it points to `localhost`. e.g. from:
https://www.mozilla.net/leak-receiver
To:
https://localhost/www.mozilla.net/leak-receiver
For setting which contains only host name(s) rather than URL(s), we can change them to use `.local` TLD which will never resolve to any IP unless
the user specifically sets up a DNS for it. e.g. change `www.mozilla.net` to `www.mozilla.net.local`.
While this may be an ill method, it shouldn't be needed if Mozilla doesn't
do ill things in the first place. They may call it a "feature" or whatever. It's a privacy leaker.
IOW, it looks like it only supports *webmail*. Alas.Using TB ESR 17.0.1 on XP PRO to read this..........................
The problem is between the chair and keyboard. This can't be
solved easily in the current educational climate when people
have passed their best times.
Sjouke,
IOW, it looks like it only supports *webmail*. Alas.Using TB ESR 17.0.1 on XP PRO to read
this..........................
Als, the subject was Seamonkey, not TB. :-)
But, in regard to SeaMonkey I was wrong : it does have an email
part, but you can only access it thru opening its browser first.
Not what I am looking for.
Late to this thread, but FWIW
On XP I use Thunderbird v2.0.0.23 (20090812) <- which I think...
is U.S. for August 12, 2009.
It does email for me nicely and yes, it also supports SSL.
WRT your SeaMonkey comment. You can set in its prefences to open
to the email part first, not the browser. It's not a default
setting but is configured manually.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3 connection and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook express 6" part likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays SSL) I would like to
keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Are you sure you didn't miss to simply enable TLS 1.2 Support for WinHTTP?
Precondition is IE8 and two POSready Updates
Mike,
Late to this thread, but FWIW
Just 7 months. :-)
On XP I use Thunderbird v2.0.0.23 (20090812) <- which I think...
is U.S. for August 12, 2009.
It does email for me nicely and yes, it also supports SSL.
WRT your SeaMonkey comment. You can set in its prefences to open
to the email part first, not the browser. It's not a default
setting but is configured manually.
I found-and-tried Thunderbird 52.9.1. and seamonkey 2.49.5 , both of which >worked well enough. Alas, both of them have the habit of "phoning home" >every time I run them, which I can't say I like.
In regard to seamonkey: its build around an HTML engine, which is not what I >want my email to be. Plain-old text works for me.
In the end I chose to use a proxy program which converts the unencrypted >email connection into an encryped one. That way I could just keep using OE
6 - a program I have gathered quite a few tools for (not un-important, being >able to re-create a working setup)
Thanks for the response though.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
I'm using XP. I use Sygate firewall to block browsers and
other programs from phoning home.
Hello R.Wieser,
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Hello all,
My internet provider just send me a email that they are going to pull a google, and will switch off unencrypted connections to their mail
servers at the end of this month.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3
connection and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook
express 6" part likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays SSL)
I would like to keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Reminder : it needs to run under
XP.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
How are you still on XP/OE6? I thought that stuff was rendered unusable
a few years back with new SSL/TLS encryption.
On Wed, 3 May 2023 10:47:17 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
My internet provider just send me a email that they are going to pull a
google, and will switch off unencrypted connections to their mail
servers at the end of this month.
My current email program is Outlook Express 6 which uses a POP3
connection and have it set to plain-text only. Although the "outlook
express 6" part likely needs to change (it doen't support nowerdays SSL)
I would like to keep the other two (POP3, plain text).
Does anyone have any suggestions ? Reminder : it needs to run under
How are you still on XP/OE6? I thought that stuff was rendered unusable a
few years back with new SSL/TLS encryption.
Adman,
How are you still on XP/OE6? I thought that stuff was rendered unusable
a few years back with new SSL/TLS encryption.
In regard to newsgroup messages ? I think that ES has recognised that there is zero reason to encrypt their connections. Newsgroup posts are public by definition, and there is no mechanism in place to make sure that usernames and/or email adresses cannot be spoofed.
As for my ISPs email ? It only switched to a higher encryption at the end of last year, at which moment I wrote a small wrapper using ssleay/libeay to encrypt that connection.
But the same here, there is no mechanism in place to stop someone from spoofing someone else.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
You could switch to OE Classic.
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