Any current XP users connected to this place?

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On 08.02.23 2:14, august abolins wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

yep.....

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On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 05:01:30 +0100
Sjouke Burry <[email protected]> wrote:

On 08.02.23 2:14, august abolins wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

yep.....

Are you watching any of the others? W.r.t "xp" there seems to be many similar ones:

alt.comp.os.windows-xp
alt.os.windows-xp
alt.windows-xp

and,

alt.os.windows.xp

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august abolins wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

My laptop is XP-era. (It's not running Windows right now, but still.)

Also, I'm posting this from an XP VM running on a Macbook.

--
- So, there are no "bad guys" in all of this then...?
- Just you and me, babe.

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On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 08:40:21 -0500, AugustA wrote:

On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 05:01:30 +0100
Sjouke Burry <[email protected]> wrote:

On 08.02.23 2:14, august abolins wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

yep.....

Are you watching any of the others? W.r.t "xp" there seems to be many similar ones:

alt.comp.os.windows-xp
alt.os.windows-xp
alt.windows-xp

and,

alt.os.windows.xp

This newsgroup is by far the most active one among those other newsgroups.

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On 2/7/23 6:14 PM, august abolins wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

I'm lurking and rarely posting.

I've still got XP on a physical machine amd multiple virtual machines
for various reasons.



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Grant. . . .
unix || die

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On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 05:16:01 +0700, JJ <[email protected]> wrote as underneath :

On Wed, 8 Feb 2023 08:40:21 -0500, AugustA wrote:

On Wed, 08 Feb 2023 05:01:30 +0100
Sjouke Burry <[email protected]> wrote:

On 08.02.23 2:14, august abolins wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

yep.....

Are you watching any of the others? W.r.t "xp" there seems to be many similar ones:

alt.comp.os.windows-xp
alt.os.windows-xp
alt.windows-xp

and,

alt.os.windows.xp

This newsgroup is by far the most active one among those other newsgroups.

Yes but microsoft.public.windowsxp.general is reliably active. C+

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Hello gtaylor!

** On Thursday 09.02.23 - 00:42, gtaylor wrote to :

I'm lurking and rarely posting.

I've still got XP on a physical machine amd multiple virtual
machines for various reasons.

I suppose it doesn't hurt to keep the channel open even if
there is nothing to ask or talk about, and hope that others are
at least doing the same. Otherwise, a long span of no messages
could encourage an unsubscribe, and the group can truly die
off.

I did get a recent spam in here, "Blank ATM cards". Very
annoying.

wrt XP, I had a recent good journey upgrading my T60 from a
250GB hdd to a 1TB ssd. At the time, the concern about lack of
TRIM and reducing unnecessary writes to the ssd didn't really
come to mind. But disabling the page writes system and
ununessary updates to "last accessed" for the files goes a long
way.

--
../|ug

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On 2023-2-8 21:40, AugustA wrote:

Are you watching any of the others? W.r.t "xp" there seems to be many similar ones:

alt.comp.os.windows-xp
alt.os.windows-xp
alt.windows-xp

and,

alt.os.windows.xp

I think "alt.comp.os.windows-xp" is the most proper hierarchy name among
them, so I will subscribe this one. As a backup maybe, because
microsoft.* will not die, as with windows xp.

--
Regards,
Lu Wei
IM: xmpp:[email protected]
PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

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On 2023-2-9 21:28, AugustA wrote:

Hello gtaylor!

** On Thursday 09.02.23 - 00:42, gtaylor wrote to :

I'm lurking and rarely posting.

I've still got XP on a physical machine amd multiple virtual
machines for various reasons.

I suppose it doesn't hurt to keep the channel open even if
there is nothing to ask or talk about, and hope that others are
at least doing the same. Otherwise, a long span of no messages
could encourage an unsubscribe, and the group can truly die
off.

I have some groups (hamster.*) not having any posts for years, but I
still subscribe them because I am using hamster gateway. Newsgroups
don't need checking from time to time as web forums. Putting them in the subscription list doesn't cost anything.

I did get a recent spam in here, "Blank ATM cards". Very
annoying.

I created a subject filter in TB to delete them. Handy now, but I worry
about more sophisticated, pattern-less spam, though it seems not likely
in today's Usenet.

wrt XP, I had a recent good journey upgrading my T60 from a
250GB hdd to a 1TB ssd. At the time, the concern about lack of
TRIM and reducing unnecessary writes to the ssd didn't really
come to mind. But disabling the page writes system and
ununessary updates to "last accessed" for the files goes a long
way.

My X61 is similar to T60. I upgraded memory to 4G, 3G for system and the
other 1G that XP cannot use for ramdisk. HDD sata mode is quick enough
for me now, maybe I will consider SSD later. And I use ThrottleStop to
boost CPU sometimes.

--
Regards,
Lu Wei
IM: xmpp:[email protected]
PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

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Hello luweitest!

** On Friday 10.02.23 - 03:46, luweitest wrote to :

... Newsgroups don't need checking from time to time as web
forums. Putting them in the subscription list doesn't cost
anything.

Good point. When something gets posted, it will show up.

I did get a recent spam in here, "Blank ATM cards". Very
annoying.

I created a subject filter in TB to delete them. Handy now,
but I worry about more sophisticated, pattern-less spam,
though it seems not likely in today's Usenet.

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle. It would seem easier to block
messages from nntp servers that don't authenticate users, and/
or just block the whole groups.google source.

wrt XP, I had a recent good journey upgrading my T60 from a
250GB hdd to a 1TB ssd. ...

My X61 is similar to T60. I upgraded memory to 4G, 3G for
system and the other 1G that XP cannot use for ramdisk. HDD
sata mode is quick enough for me now, maybe I will consider
SSD later. And I use ThrottleStop to boost CPU sometimes.

What did you use to create/configure the ramdisk? I thought
ramdisk tools were from the days of 286s and 386s.

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Hello luweitest!

** On Friday 10.02.23 - 02:57, luweitest wrote to :

I think "alt.comp.os.windows-xp" is the most proper hierarchy
name among them, so I will subscribe this one. As a backup
maybe, because microsoft.* will not die, as with windows xp.

The microsoft.* groups seem to be available at groups.google
and paganini.

XP *is* quickly being unsupported or deemed anathema. :(

[o] iTunes stopped supporting XP installations. Purchases, and
even playing samples and adding them to favorites, stopped
working.

[o] Spotify recently stopped working for XP users.



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Hello charlie!

** On Thursday 09.02.23 - 01:39, charlie wrote to :

On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 05:16:01 +0700, JJ <[email protected]> wrote as underneath :

This newsgroup is by far the most active one among those other newsgroups.

Yes but microsoft.public.windowsxp.general is reliably active. C+

What server are you using for the microsoft.* ones?
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:49:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]> wrote
as underneath :

Hello charlie!

** On Thursday 09.02.23 - 01:39, charlie wrote to :

On Thu, 9 Feb 2023 05:16:01 +0700, JJ <[email protected]> wrote as
underneath :

This newsgroup is by far the most active one among those other newsgroups.

Yes but microsoft.public.windowsxp.general is reliably active. C+

What server are you using for the microsoft.* ones?

https://usenet-news.net not a freebie tho. C+

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On 2023-2-11 9:38, AugustA wrote:

What did you use to create/configure the ramdisk? I thought
ramdisk tools were from the days of 286s and 386s.

Ramdisk finds its revival after RAM gets cheaper, and so gets bigger than XP can handle. I use Gavotte RAMDisk downloaded from:
http://reboot.pro/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=6943
It can use memory beyond 4GB through PAE.
Your could take a look at readme file in the 7z package. In short, install it as a device driver though rramdisk.inf; Import ram4g.reg to use PAE; ramdisk.exe is a GUI for simple setting. Reboot to take effect.
Then you can format the new ramdisk, set the pagefile to it (media type should be "fixed").
And better set
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]
"DisablePagingExecutive"=dword:00000001
To prevent the driver be swapped to the page file.

--
Regards,
Lu Wei
IM: xmpp:[email protected]
PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

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On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 20:14:00 -0500, "august abolins"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

Well I am here on 98 or XP depending and sometimes I come here on
linux box.

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On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:38:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello luweitest!

** On Friday 10.02.23 - 03:46, luweitest wrote to :

... Newsgroups don't need checking from time to time as web
forums. Putting them in the subscription list doesn't cost
anything.

Good point. When something gets posted, it will show up.

I did get a recent spam in here, "Blank ATM cards". Very
annoying.

I created a subject filter in TB to delete them. Handy now,
but I worry about more sophisticated, pattern-less spam,
though it seems not likely in today's Usenet.

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle. It would seem easier to block
messages from nntp servers that don't authenticate users, and/
or just block the whole groups.google source.

I wonder can this be done on any newsgroup client? I am using Forte
Agent currently and that could reduce spam by lot since Usenet server
I use requires authentication and got zero spam policies.

wrt XP, I had a recent good journey upgrading my T60 from a
250GB hdd to a 1TB ssd. ...

My X61 is similar to T60. I upgraded memory to 4G, 3G for
system and the other 1G that XP cannot use for ramdisk. HDD
sata mode is quick enough for me now, maybe I will consider
SSD later. And I use ThrottleStop to boost CPU sometimes.

What did you use to create/configure the ramdisk? I thought
ramdisk tools were from the days of 286s and 386s.

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On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 10:28:40 +0300, Nokiamies <[email protected]>
wrote:

On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 20:14:00 -0500, "august abolins"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

Well I am here on 98 or XP depending and sometimes I come here on
linux box.

You'll find this group more likely to get answers in regarding xp.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

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You'll find this group more likely to get answers in regarding xp.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

As microsoft has dropped that newsgroup so have several (most?) newsgroup providers. Including ethernal-september. :-\

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 18:09:02 +0200, "R.Wieser" <[email protected]d>
wrote:

You'll find this group more likely to get answers in regarding xp.

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

As microsoft has dropped that newsgroup so have several (most?) newsgroup >providers. Including ethernal-september. :-\

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

I never used it myself but still have it in my Agent's Subscribe list.

I'll keep my eye on it for a week or two and see if it is still being
used by anyone. If nothing shows up, I'll Unsubscribe it.

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On 2023-8-14 16:40, Nokiamies wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:38:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello luweitest!

** On Friday 10.02.23 - 03:46, luweitest wrote to :

... Newsgroups don't need checking from time to time as web
forums. Putting them in the subscription list doesn't cost
anything.

Good point. When something gets posted, it will show up.

I did get a recent spam in here, "Blank ATM cards". Very
annoying.

I created a subject filter in TB to delete them. Handy now,
but I worry about more sophisticated, pattern-less spam,
though it seems not likely in today's Usenet.

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle. It would seem easier to block
messages from nntp servers that don't authenticate users, and/
or just block the whole groups.google source.

I wonder can this be done on any newsgroup client? I am using Forte
Agent currently and that could reduce spam by lot since Usenet server
I use requires authentication and got zero spam policies.

If you mean block articles from Google, as long as Forte Agent could
filter articles with headers, you have choices:
"User-Agent:" header is "G2/1.0"
"Path:" header ends with "google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail" "Injection-Info:" header contains "google-groups.googlegroups.com"

wrt XP, I had a recent good journey upgrading my T60 from a
250GB hdd to a 1TB ssd. ...

My X61 is similar to T60. I upgraded memory to 4G, 3G for
system and the other 1G that XP cannot use for ramdisk. HDD
sata mode is quick enough for me now, maybe I will consider
SSD later. And I use ThrottleStop to boost CPU sometimes.

What did you use to create/configure the ramdisk? I thought
ramdisk tools were from the days of 286s and 386s.

Newer tools exist since ramdisk is still useful. I use Gavotte RAMDisk 1.0.4096.5, Google it and you'll find the first link to MSFN where I got
it from.

--
Regards,
Lu Wei
IM: xmpp:[email protected]
PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

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On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 11:54:49 +0800, Lu Wei <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2023-8-14 16:40, Nokiamies wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:38:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello luweitest!

** On Friday 10.02.23 - 03:46, luweitest wrote to :

... Newsgroups don't need checking from time to time as web
forums. Putting them in the subscription list doesn't cost
anything.

Good point. When something gets posted, it will show up.

I did get a recent spam in here, "Blank ATM cards". Very
annoying.

I created a subject filter in TB to delete them. Handy now,
but I worry about more sophisticated, pattern-less spam,
though it seems not likely in today's Usenet.

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle. It would seem easier to block
messages from nntp servers that don't authenticate users, and/
or just block the whole groups.google source.

I wonder can this be done on any newsgroup client? I am using Forte
Agent currently and that could reduce spam by lot since Usenet server
I use requires authentication and got zero spam policies.

If you mean block articles from Google, as long as Forte Agent could
filter articles with headers, you have choices:
"User-Agent:" header is "G2/1.0"
"Path:" header ends with "google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail" >"Injection-Info:" header contains "google-groups.googlegroups.com"

Seems that forte supports header based filtering so I could try that.
I doubt will lose lot by blocking Google groups. Most people are
likely using Eternal-September or other private servers to access
usenet anyway. I used to use my ISP usenet server until it was ditched
in 2021 (they had it still up until that but did not advertise it
existance).

Nice that usenet is still alive and can get answers or replies here
still. It is more relaxed and free form for communication than message
boards.

wrt XP, I had a recent good journey upgrading my T60 from a
250GB hdd to a 1TB ssd. ...

My X61 is similar to T60. I upgraded memory to 4G, 3G for
system and the other 1G that XP cannot use for ramdisk. HDD
sata mode is quick enough for me now, maybe I will consider
SSD later. And I use ThrottleStop to boost CPU sometimes.

What did you use to create/configure the ramdisk? I thought
ramdisk tools were from the days of 286s and 386s.

Newer tools exist since ramdisk is still useful. I use Gavotte RAMDisk >1.0.4096.5, Google it and you'll find the first link to MSFN where I got
it from.

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On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:54:39 +0300
Nokiamies <[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 11:54:49 +0800, Lu Wei <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2023-8-14 16:40, Nokiamies wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:38:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello luweitest!

** On Friday 10.02.23 - 03:46, luweitest wrote to :

... Newsgroups don't need checking from time to time as web
forums. Putting them in the subscription list doesn't cost
anything.

Good point. When something gets posted, it will show up.

I did get a recent spam in here, "Blank ATM cards". Very
annoying.

I created a subject filter in TB to delete them. Handy now,
but I worry about more sophisticated, pattern-less spam,
though it seems not likely in today's Usenet.

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle. It would seem easier to block
messages from nntp servers that don't authenticate users, and/
or just block the whole groups.google source.

I wonder can this be done on any newsgroup client? I am using Forte
Agent currently and that could reduce spam by lot since Usenet server
I use requires authentication and got zero spam policies.

If you mean block articles from Google, as long as Forte Agent could
filter articles with headers, you have choices:
"User-Agent:" header is "G2/1.0"
"Path:" header ends with "google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail" >"Injection-Info:" header contains "google-groups.googlegroups.com"

Seems that forte supports header based filtering so I could try that.
I doubt will lose lot by blocking Google groups. Most people are
likely using Eternal-September or other private servers to access
usenet anyway. I used to use my ISP usenet server until it was ditched
in 2021 (they had it still up until that but did not advertise it
existance).

Nice that usenet is still alive and can get answers or replies here
still. It is more relaxed and free form for communication than message boards.

Keep it alive!

wrt XP, I had a recent good journey upgrading my T60 from a
250GB hdd to a 1TB ssd. ...

My X61 is similar to T60. I upgraded memory to 4G, 3G for
system and the other 1G that XP cannot use for ramdisk. HDD
sata mode is quick enough for me now, maybe I will consider
SSD later. And I use ThrottleStop to boost CPU sometimes.

What did you use to create/configure the ramdisk? I thought
ramdisk tools were from the days of 286s and 386s.

Newer tools exist since ramdisk is still useful. I use Gavotte RAMDisk >1.0.4096.5, Google it and you'll find the first link to MSFN where I got
it from.

I still have a Ramdisk drive 'B:' for TEMP files.
Seems that I set it up using QSoft ramdrive from 2005 - the setup page
seems to use Cyrillic.


--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:50:15 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:54:39 +0300
Nokiamies <[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 11:54:49 +0800, Lu Wei <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2023-8-14 16:40, Nokiamies wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:38:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]>
wrote:

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle.

That's why I luv Agent newsreader. When finding some fool who does
what you say, it's easy with a good NNTP host to download all headers
in a few seconds, then Agent can filter on any field, including the
message body. In more than one of the headers, the troll is captured
and deleted.

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On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:42:56 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:50:15 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:54:39 +0300
Nokiamies <[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 11:54:49 +0800, Lu Wei <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2023-8-14 16:40, Nokiamies wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:38:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]>
wrote:

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle.

That's why I luv Agent newsreader. When finding some fool who does
what you say, it's easy with a good NNTP host to download all headers
in a few seconds, then Agent can filter on any field, including the
message body. In more than one of the headers, the troll is captured
and deleted.

I am Forte Agent newsreader fan as well for that reason. I have set up
plenty of filters for cleaning up most of generic SPAM. Plus it is so
clean and minimal. I use old copy I bought long ago and it still does
the job.

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:07:07 +0300, Nokiamies <[email protected]>
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:42:56 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:50:15 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:54:39 +0300
Nokiamies <[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 11:54:49 +0800, Lu Wei <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2023-8-14 16:40, Nokiamies wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:38:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]>
wrote:

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle.

That's why I luv Agent newsreader. When finding some fool who does
what you say, it's easy with a good NNTP host to download all headers
in a few seconds, then Agent can filter on any field, including the >>message body. In more than one of the headers, the troll is captured
and deleted.

I am Forte Agent newsreader fan as well for that reason. I have set up
plenty of filters for cleaning up most of generic SPAM. Plus it is so
clean and minimal. I use old copy I bought long ago and it still does
the job.

I'm still using the 1.93 version of Agent. Those newer versions with
all their extra nonsense folders and gimmicks I didn't need. I'm not
an obsessive who has to have a formal, detailed record of every post I
ever made, every person I ever posted to nor whatever other gimmicks
those newer versions had that I've forgotten about. Matter of fact, I
toyed with one new version for about 10' minutes before dumping it and
going back to 1.93.

The reason of *simplicity* is why I still use XP. If you peruse any of
the Win 10 or 11 groups you can see what a mess Redmond made of what
was a simple OS.

But then, What does a simple minded non- tech know about all this
software "progress" - except that many times that "progress" has
ruined some really good software.

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:13:09 -0500
[email protected] wrote:

[]

I'm still using the 1.93 version of Agent. Those newer versions with

[]

Doesn't seem to be available from forte's website.
--
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 16:52:56 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 20:58:42 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:13:09 -0500
[email protected] wrote:

[]

I'm still using the 1.93 version of Agent. Those newer versions with

[]

Doesn't seem to be available from forte's website.

Look in alt.test.binaries for Agent 1.93 post.

It's with registration text file.

Post is under my nym - [email protected]

I forgot this part -

You can check for virus with
https://virusscan.jotti.org/

or the VirusTotal site

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 20:58:42 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:13:09 -0500
[email protected] wrote:

[]

I'm still using the 1.93 version of Agent. Those newer versions with

[]

Doesn't seem to be available from forte's website.

Look in alt.test.binaries for Agent 1.93 post.

It's with registration text file.

Post is under my nym - [email protected]

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On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 11:13:09 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Sun, 27 Aug 2023 17:07:07 +0300, Nokiamies <[email protected]>
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:42:56 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2023 17:50:15 +0100, "Kerr-Mudd, John"
<[email protected]> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 11:54:39 +0300
Nokiamies <[email protected]> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Aug 2023 11:54:49 +0800, Lu Wei <[email protected]>
wrote:

On 2023-8-14 16:40, Nokiamies wrote:

On Fri, 10 Feb 2023 20:38:00 -0500, "AugustA" <[email protected]> >>>>> >> wrote:

But building the filters could be a full time job. The spammer
just has to change one letter, or come in under a new name. It
can be a constant battle.

That's why I luv Agent newsreader. When finding some fool who does
what you say, it's easy with a good NNTP host to download all headers
in a few seconds, then Agent can filter on any field, including the >>>message body. In more than one of the headers, the troll is captured
and deleted.

I am Forte Agent newsreader fan as well for that reason. I have set up >>plenty of filters for cleaning up most of generic SPAM. Plus it is so
clean and minimal. I use old copy I bought long ago and it still does
the job.

I'm still using the 1.93 version of Agent. Those newer versions with
all their extra nonsense folders and gimmicks I didn't need. I'm not
an obsessive who has to have a formal, detailed record of every post I
ever made, every person I ever posted to nor whatever other gimmicks
those newer versions had that I've forgotten about. Matter of fact, I
toyed with one new version for about 10' minutes before dumping it and
going back to 1.93.

I am using 1.91 which is slightly older and it works great.

The reason of *simplicity* is why I still use XP. If you peruse any of
the Win 10 or 11 groups you can see what a mess Redmond made of what
was a simple OS.

I am still using 98 and XP for that reason. There has only been
downgrades ever since. XP brought together Windows 9x and NT users
under single ecosystem and it had choices, simple UI for beginners
then ability do lot advanced setting from older windows, you could
make it act like Windows 95 if you wanted without third party
software. On Windows 10 good luck even with third party software get
that classic look or get power user dialogs back

But then, What does a simple minded non- tech know about all this
software "progress" - except that many times that "progress" has
ruined some really good software.

Problem is that most people are simple minded compared to you. You are
much more open minded by not falling for "only teh latest and
greatest" mindset that people are having. Their use of computers is
only browse pictures of cats and watch video clip, no serious word
processing or anything else that computers were meant to use. They
think it is just snap of fingers to ugprade.

Let me give example from back when I used to work more with industrial equipment: There was line used for analyze structural damage on any
returned products factory recieved. That was done using Windows 2000
and application was running on Server 2003 using custom databases.
Server was becoming old and had to be virtualised. I though all I need
to do is convert it to VHD and move into Hyper-V server.

Last time I had used Hyper-V was back in ws2008 where there was quest
addon cd. However this was removed on Server 2016 making installing
legacy hw harder. I started searching for where obtain addons and
found too many blogposts where people kept saying same "just upgrade application to newer version". Problem was that could not be made work
under newer Windows server, it had been tried and cost of renewing it
would have meant also replacing all analysis devices, computers and
client programs and that would have been millions worth of cost. Thing
is unlike consumer device most of industrial devices can be fixed even
if they are over 20 years old.

Eventually I did manage find ISO I needed and was able succesfully
transfer server into Hyper-V and as far as I know it is still in use.

It would be good for those "experts" who keep spouting upgrade all the
time work even one day on industrial equipment to get cured from shiny
new stuff syndrome.

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I don't believe so. It's mostly just spam scamvertisements.
"august abolins" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:GAOPlcQSEcB@nospam...

Any current XP users connected to this place?

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"John Lightman" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:udk07r$h148$[email protected]...

Any current XP users connected to this place?

I don't believe so. It's mostly just spam scamvertisements.

Ehh... Whut?

Either there are none -or- most (of the posts) is spam. Both at the same
time isn't possible.

... and looking at the number of responders to just this threads questions (subject line as well as the one in the first post) it looks like the answer
is "Yes".

Also, it looks like that the s(p|c)amvertisements are coming from just a few posters, and as such can be killfiled rather well.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

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On 10.09.23 10:54, John Lightman wrote:

I don't believe so. It's mostly just spam scamvertisements.
"august abolins" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:GAOPlcQSEcB@nospam...

Any current XP users connected to this place?

Yep.

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On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 09:54:18 +0100, John Lightman wrote:

I don't believe so. It's mostly just spam scamvertisements.
"august abolins" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:GAOPlcQSEcB@nospam...

Any current XP users connected to this place?

I'm not connected to this place, but I dwelve here.

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On Tue, 7 Feb 2023 20:14:00 -0500, "august abolins"
<[email protected]> wrote:

Any current XP users connected to this place?

Yes. XP + Linux for the things XP no longer does.
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