• MRC / Vintage Computing

    From Retrojimmyx to Keyop on Sun Aug 30 13:21:17 2026
    Hi Keyop,

    Thought I'd try messaging here instead of mail so this is my first ever bulletin board message.

    No connectivity issues in MRC last night so if that was down to changes you made, thank you. It meant I was able to stay connected long enough to hear Bob's story of the guy on the signpost on the M4. Not sure if there is a fix for being able to 'unhear' something though.

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    I don't actually own any vintage computers. I appreciate them but for me, without the necessity of owning them. That being said, if I see a real bargain somewhere, I wouldn't dismiss it. I only have eyes for an Amiga 500 at this stage - maybe a BBC Micro. But sadly, they're appreciating now. I'm quite happy with emulators though and in many ways that convenience works well for me - I appreciate the architecture and OS and software but don't have to endure that 'labour of love' when it comes to hardware (and re-capping).

    If I had a vintage computer, I'd probably still use an emulator because I would be too concerned about wear on the physical device. I think in fairness though; I actually appreciate the look of vintage hardware - the shape of a rounded CRT, the warmth of valves, the honesty of manufacture (flat head screws). Perhaps I'd like a vintage computer but more to say "Look, this 30 year old device is still capable."

    I like the amalgamation of the old and new. My rotary dial GPO telephone has a raspberry Pi inside. My home server will be receiving a commodore datasette (via Arduino) for a LUKS2 key backup. I still have a floppy drive on my Intel 14th Gen desktop. I think my angle, again not 'purist', is that I will adopt vintage tech because it is a homage to the pioneering days of engineering and computing but if I want to genuinely claim it is relevant, I use it, with little to no compromise. My vintage tech interest also extends to cameras, which is why I sometimes wander up your way to visit the museum.

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    For the VoIP line, I was going to go with zadarma.com and use FreePBX. I don't genuinely need a voice line into the house but I wanted a line that I could dial, have a menu system that could enable me to spin up containers, retrieve messages (text to speech), or get a speaking clock - all DTMF and some reudimentary authentication. Then I got a �1/month Sky SIM with unlimited texts/calls so just exploring if I can get a low cost device to support VoLTE (voice over LTE). If the latter doesn't work, then I'll broaden my VoIP provider search to include reasonable handling for modems and look at Vonage.

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    Wow, a lot there - sorry. I really appreciate your help and welcoming me into the BBS community. How about yourself KeyOp? Where do your interests lie? Why do you run a BBS?

    Retro
  • From Keyop to Retrojimmyx on Sun Aug 30 22:06:10 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Retrojimmyx to Keyop on Sun Aug 30 2026 13:21:17

    Hi Keyop,

    Thought I'd try messaging here instead of mail so this is my first ever bulletin board message.

    Hi!

    No connectivity issues in MRC last night so if that was down to changes you made, thank you. It meant I was able to stay connected long enough to hear Bob's story of the guy on the signpost on the M4. Not
    sure
    if there is a fix for being able to 'unhear' something though.

    Ah - glad the inactivity timeout change worked for you :)

    Re Bob, there isnt a setting to undo his references to genitalia unfortunately!

    I don't actually own any vintage computers. I appreciate them but for me, without the necessity of owning them. That being said, if I see a real bargain somewhere, I wouldn't dismiss it. I only have eyes for
    an
    Amiga 500 at this stage - maybe a BBC Micro. But sadly, they're appreciating now. I'm quite happy with emulators though and in many ways that convenience works well for me - I appreciate the architecture and
    OS
    and software but don't have to endure that 'labour of love' when it comes to hardware (and re-capping).

    I used WinUAE for ages before getting my first "recent" Amiga related purchase, so that I could play Menace - I even ended up getting hold of an XBOX controller for the PC so that I could play it properly :)

    If you're just after the OS / app experience, then emulators should be just fine. You only need the original hardware if you want to re-live the whole experience of floppy drives, CRT monitors and hardware failures! Im absolutely useless at hardware repairs, unless they're really the basic ones, so alot of my retro tech ends up at the repair place.

    If I had a vintage computer, I'd probably still use an emulator because I would be too concerned about wear on the physical device. I think in fairness though; I actually appreciate the look of vintage
    hardware
    - the shape of a rounded CRT, the warmth of valves, the honesty of manufacture (flat head screws). Perhaps I'd like a vintage computer but more to say "Look, this 30 year old device is still capable."

    The BBC micro with the original Microvitec CUB monitor and disk drives are a good example of that real retro feel, but they really heat up the room in summer. A few setups like that and it has to be an aircon job.

    I like the amalgamation of the old and new. My rotary dial GPO telephone has a raspberry Pi inside. My home server will be receiving a commodore datasette (via Arduino) for a LUKS2 key backup. I still have a
    floppy drive on my Intel 14th Gen desktop. I think my angle, again not 'purist', is that I will adopt vintage tech because it is a homage to the pioneering days of engineering and computing but if I want to
    genuinely claim it is relevant, I use it, with little to no compromise. My vintage tech interest also extends to cameras, which is why I sometimes wander up your way to visit the museum.

    What are you looking to build with the phone, dataset & LUKs2? Re museum, which one do you go to? I'm really basic when it comes to photography, basically I'm a point and click sort of person. I bought a Canon M50 years ago in the black fridays sales, and I still only use it in automatic mode, I've no idea what all of the other settings do.

    For the VoIP line, I was going to go with zadarma.com and use FreePBX. I don't genuinely need a voice line into the house but I wanted a line that I could dial, have a menu system that could enable me to
    spin
    up containers, retrieve messages (text to speech), or get a speaking clock - all DTMF and some reudimentary authentication. Then I got a œ1/month Sky SIM with unlimited texts/calls so just exploring if I can
    get a low cost device to support VoLTE (voice over LTE). If the latter doesn't work, then I'll broaden my VoIP provider search to include reasonable handling for modems and look at Vonage.

    Ah FreeBPX is a good choice, I use that. Zadarma, if you're looking to get a UK line with them - I wouldn't! I moved my old land line to them and it was really poor and they wouldn't initially let me move away. I forced the issue and now they've blocked my account for ordering any new services. I would give localphone a try, the quality is really good and the price comparable.

    Wow, a lot there - sorry. I really appreciate your help and welcoming me into the BBS community. How about yourself KeyOp? Where do your interests lie? Why do you run a BBS?

    You're welcome!

    re the BBS, I originally set up Magnum BBS on a sinclair ZX spectrum running over a CB radio with a few friends, before migrating to an Atari ST with a modem. I still have that old set up somewhere and I'm planning on bringing it back to life - probably adding it as an e[X]ternal program from this BBS (as a door).

    Chat soon,

    K
  • From Retrojimmyx to Keyop on Tue Sep 1 15:01:41 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Keyop to Retrojimmyx on Sun Aug 30 2026 22:06:10

    If you're just after the OS / app experience, then emulators should be just fine. You only need the original hardware if you want to re-live the whole experience of floppy drives, CRT monitors and hardware failures! Im absolutely useless at hardware repairs, unless they're really the basic ones, so alot of my retro tech ends up at the repair place.

    Okay, after spending the best part of a couple of hours last night to find vintage hardware that I can use to construct my cyberdeck voight-kampff computer, I would like to officially retract my comments about not being bothered about hardware. I found these beauties:

    Vintage Compaq Plus Portable
    Zenith Z-181
    Toshiba T1000
    Gridcase PCs

    and la piece do resistance...

    The Sharp PC-4501A

    ... she's a beauty.

    - retro
  • From Keyop to Retrojimmyx on Tue Sep 1 22:06:25 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Retrojimmyx to Keyop on Tue Sep 01 2026 15:01:41

    Okay, after spending the best part of a couple of hours last night to find vintage hardware that I can use to construct my cyberdeck voight-kampff computer, I would like to officially retract my comments
    about
    not being bothered about hardware. I found these beauties:

    Vintage Compaq Plus Portable
    Zenith Z-181
    Toshiba T1000
    Gridcase PCs

    and la piece do resistance...

    The Sharp PC-4501A

    ... she's a beauty.

    - retro

    Ah gimmie gimmie! I dont have any of those ... :)
  • From Bob Worm to Retrojimmyx on Wed Sep 16 15:40:02 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Retrojimmyx to Keyop on Sun Aug 30 2026 13:21:17

    Hi, Jimmy.

    It meant I was able to stay connected long enough to hear
    Bob's story of the guy on the signpost on the M4. Not sure if there is a fix for being able to 'unhear' something though.

    Hey, there's no accounting for tastes. Also no refunds :)

    If I had a vintage computer, I'd probably still use an emulator because I would be too concerned about wear on the physical device.

    Hmm, that's kind of what I do with the Acorn. I used an emulator to code up the terminal emulator which I now use as my daily driver - that had a certain comfort factor to it, and also meant I could work on it while I was on the train / away with work :) I don't hesitate to BBS on the real hardware, though - I could keep it preserved in a cupboard, but there's not much point. It's not exactly a pristine museum exhibit anyway, but a lot of that is why I love it - the stencilled-on permanent marker which the school used to mark the mouse with A3-9, which presumably means at least 8 of its brethren ended up in skips, like this one was meant to before I rescued it.

    I'll catch you on MRC at some point - in case it isn't obvious I don't often catch up on the message bases!

    Take care...

    BobW
  • From Bob Worm to Keyop on Wed Sep 16 15:44:11 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Keyop to Retrojimmyx on Sun Aug 30 2026 22:06:10

    Hey, K.

    Re Bob, there isnt a setting to undo his references to genitalia unfortunately!

    "unfortunately"... Hmmm

    re the BBS, I originally set up Magnum BBS on a sinclair ZX spectrum running over a CB radio with a few friends, before migrating to an Atari ST with a modem. I still have that old set up somewhere and I'm planning on bringing it back to life - probably adding it as an e[X]ternal program from this BBS (as a door).

    Ooooh, now that would be exciting. I hope your software didn't get tape rot / disk rot?

    There's a C64 BBS I frequent - Microtown - which still has the original messages on there from the 80s. I love that kind of thing.

    BobW
  • From Bob Worm to Keyop on Wed Sep 16 15:46:58 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Keyop to Retrojimmyx on Tue Sep 01 2026 22:06:25


    Vintage Compaq Plus Portable
    Zenith Z-181
    Toshiba T1000
    Gridcase PCs
    The Sharp PC-4501A

    Ah gimmie gimmie! I dont have any of those ... :)

    ?!

    Really? It's unusual to find *one* system which you don't *currently* have, let alone 5. Seems sus...

    BobW
  • From Keyop to Bob Worm on Wed Sep 16 18:53:49 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Bob Worm to Keyop on Wed Sep 16 2026 15:44:11

    Ooooh, now that would be exciting. I hope your software didn't get tape rot / disk rot?

    There's a C64 BBS I frequent - Microtown - which still has the original messages on there from the 80s. I love that kind of thing.

    The original BBS is on microdrive tape - so that might be a challenge to recover.

    The main BBS from the 80's/90's/00's that ran on the ST I still have - somewhere and I'm trying to find the hard drive.

    I will likely bring this BBS back from the dead at some point, although I will need to get hold of the BBS soruce code so that I can fix the y2k problem.

    K
  • From Keyop to Bob Worm on Wed Sep 16 18:54:41 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Bob Worm to Keyop on Wed Sep 16 2026 15:46:58

    Really? It's unusual to find *one* system which you don't *currently* have, let alone 5. Seems sus...

    Shocking I know, but it does happen occasionally :)
  • From Skreek to Keyop on Sun Oct 25 23:17:51 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Keyop to Bob Worm on Wed Sep 16 2026 18:53:49

    I will likely bring this BBS back from the dead at some point, although I

    do it,, a board thats been dead since the y2k bug is the best comeback story going. mine never even got as far as being dead, bedsit hell is one 3.5 floppy in a shoebox at my mums and ive not dared put it in a drive since about 98

    the microdrive tape i wouldnt hold out much hope for tho, had a mate at school with a ql who lost everything on those about once a month and swore every time

    if the st drive turns up give us a shout on here, i'd log on just to see a logon screen that actually survived the decade

    laters
    skreek
  • From Keyop to Skreek on Sun Oct 25 23:28:03 2026
    Re: MRC / Vintage Computing
    By: Skreek to Keyop on Sun Oct 25 2026 23:17:51

    do it,, a board thats been dead since the y2k bug is the best comeback story going. mine never even got as far as being dead, bedsit hell is one 3.5 floppy in a shoebox at my mums and ive not dared put it in
    a
    drive since about 98

    the microdrive tape i wouldnt hold out much hope for tho, had a mate at school with a ql who lost everything on those about once a month and swore every time

    if the st drive turns up give us a shout on here, i'd log on just to see a logon screen that actually survived the decade

    Yeah the speccy BBS is definately a no no, as it would mean setting up a CB radio and ariel and having users with a similar set up....

    Once I find the Atari drive, I have a new mega STE ready to run it on, so I've already worked out how to get it online again.

    I will probably go hunting again after Xmas :)

    K