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  • The Mystic Upgrade Dance

    From Hawk Hubbard@21:1/112 to All on Mon Jan 21 12:15:06 2019
    I'm running A39 still and haven't been in the loop as to the stability of the newest upgrade. Seems a lot of the time upgrades will have added
    functionality thats pretty cool but in the process several already working things gets broken after an upgrade. I see theres a pre alpha 42 and some
    have said that they dig that. I would like some opinions as to what people
    are experiencing and what would be a good upgrade path for me to use thats
    safe and bug free. Thanks

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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From Cmech@21:2/117 to Hawk Hubbard on Mon Jan 21 13:18:12 2019
    * An ongoing debate between Hawk Hubbard and All rages on ...

    opinions as to what people are experiencing and what would be a good upgrade path for me to use thats safe and bug free. Thanks

    I'm no expert like Avon, but A41 is the last stable alpha most people are running. Close behind seems to be the latest pre-alpha of A42 2018/12/30 23:39:36 which I use here myself. Avon can clue you in as to the merits of the A42 enhancements.

    Your upgrade path would be as outlined in Upgrade.txt from A39 to A40, then A40

    to A41.

    Do NOT forget to backup all Mystic programs and data before installing/upgrading A39!

    === Cut ===

    .--------------------------------.
    | UPGRADING FROM 1.12 A40 to A41 |-------------------------
    `--------------------------------'

    - Replace existing binaries with the new alpha binaries:

    mystic.exe
    mis.exe
    fidopoll.exe
    mutil.exe
    nodespy.exe
    qwkpoll.exe
    upgrade.exe
    mplc.exe (in scripts directory)
    mide.exe (in scripts directory)

    .--------------------------------.
    | UPGRADING FROM 1.12 A39 to A40 |-------------------------
    `--------------------------------'

    - Replace existing binaries with the new alpha binaries:

    mystic.exe
    mis.exe
    fidopoll.exe
    mutil.exe
    nodespy.exe
    qwkpoll.exe
    upgrade.exe
    mplc.exe (in scripts directory)
    mide.exe (in scripts directory)

    - If you use default installation replace the default.txt from DATA with the
    newer one, otherwise the following prompts have been modified or changed
    and will need to be updated/added to your custom themes:

    Changed prompts: 18, 419, 420, 463, 486
    New prompts: 538-552

    - Copy "msg_index.ini" from the TEXT folder into your TEXT folders
    - Copy "msg_index.ans" from the TEXT folder into your TEXT folders
    - Copy "msg_index_help.ans" from the TEXT folder into your TEXT folders

    - Copy "cfgroot4.ans" from the DATA folder into your DATA folder

    - Execute upgrade.exe

    - Recompile MPL programs

    === Cut ===


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    --- GoldED+/W32-MSVC v1.1.5-g20180902 + Mystic v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 23:39:36
    * Origin: FSXNet - Positronium: telnet://cmech.dynip.com (21:2/117)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to Hawk Hubbard on Mon Jan 21 19:47:48 2019
    I have upgraded to A42, no issues to report, then again my BBS is not as popular as others, but networks are fine, logging in is fine, posting is working.. Only thing I have noticed that I think might just be a over loaded message base is when I hit the message base, I hit I to get a quick list and
    go to the message bases with new messages. That seems a little slow, nothing where it will kill me but that is just me.. Otherwise it is fine. I took the long way of upgrading. I upgraded from A39 to A40, then A41, then finally
    A42.. Worked fine as long as you follow all the steps.. Something I neglected to do.. ;)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From Hawk Hubbard@21:1/112 to Bucko on Mon Jan 21 22:55:50 2019
    Thanks for taking the time with reporting back.

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    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A39 2018/04/21 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Black Flag <ACiD Telnet HQ> blackflagbbs.com (21:1/112)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Bucko on Tue Jan 22 01:36:58 2019
    I have upgraded to A42, no issues to report, then again my BBS is not as popular as others, but networks are fine, logging in is fine, posting is working.. Only thing I have noticed that I think might just be a over loaded message base is when I hit the message base, I hit I to get a
    quick list and go to the message bases with new messages. That seems a little slow, nothing where it will kill me but that is just me..

    Can you give me a little information about your message bases? It shouldn't really be slow but I suppose we all have different interpretations of what
    slow is! :)

    How many message bases do you have and how many messages in them roughly?

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/31 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to g00r00 on Tue Jan 22 07:12:22 2019
    On 22 Jan 2019, g00r00 said the following...


    Can you give me a little information about your message bases? It shouldn't really be slow but I suppose we all have different interpretations of what slow is! :)


    My messages are on my Server, I have approximately 1100 posts with at minimum 10 or 15,000 responses, I know just in the General echo here on fsxNet there
    is over 5000 posts and responses.. Not sure if this is a A42 issue or just me .. Like you said we all have different interpretations. :) Thanks for the response.. It's probably nothing.. :)

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Bucko on Wed Jan 23 03:19:56 2019
    My messages are on my Server, I have approximately 1100 posts with at minimum 10 or 15,000 responses, I know just in the General echo here on fsxNet there is over 5000 posts and responses.. Not sure if this is a
    A42 issue or just me .. Like you said we all have different interpretations. :) Thanks for the response.. It's probably nothing.. :)

    It should be relatively quick with 5000 messages in a base, but there are
    also a lot of factors like your drive and CPU speed. But it could also be something in A42 as well. I do think I made some changes recently.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/31 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)
  • From Bucko@21:4/131 to g00r00 on Wed Jan 23 18:06:16 2019
    On 23 Jan 2019, g00r00 said the following...


    It should be relatively quick with 5000 messages in a base, but there are also a lot of factors like your drive and CPU speed. But it could also
    be something in A42 as well. I do think I made some changes recently.

    I appreciate the info, I will do a weed of the message base looks like there
    is probably more like 20,000+ after doing a quick scan..

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2018/12/30 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: The Wrong Number Family Of BBS' - Wrong Number ][ (21:4/131)
  • From g00r00@21:1/108 to Bucko on Thu Jan 24 03:26:20 2019
    It should be relatively quick with 5000 messages in a base, but there also a lot of factors like your drive and CPU speed. But it could al be something in A42 as well. I do think I made some changes recently.

    I appreciate the info, I will do a weed of the message base looks like there is probably more like 20,000+ after doing a quick scan..

    To give you an idea of the speed I am talking about here was the testing the last time it was speed tested (Alpha 35):

    It took 0.20 of a second to calculate 300 message bases totaling 250,000 message in them. Now granted that was on a high end computer from 2011 (an Intel 2500K over-clocked to 4.6gig on a mechanical SATA2 hard drive).

    So 20,000 should be chump change considering 250,000 and 300 areas took 0.20 of a second.

    How long is it taking for you and what hardware are you running? I will try to do another test like that to see what is going on. I did make some changes to that system recently as I am replacing the index reader with a reworked version of it at some point.

    I still haven't had the time yet to look into it but I've added it to my TODO list.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A42 2019/01/23 (Windows/32)
    * Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ] (21:1/108)