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    From Nigel Reed@21:2/101 to FSXNET.FSX_MYS on Mon Oct 26 21:54:32 2020
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    I tried sending an areafix with

    %LIST
    %HELP

    and only the first command is fulfilled, the second returns unknown echo.

    altere reported the problem with 21:1/100 so I thought I'd try it out on 21:2/100 and we're both having the same issue.

    Even if I leave a blank link, that line also reports unknwon echo.

    Obviously this is a problem if someone wants to subscribe to a subset of
    echoes since they'd only be able to do one at a time.

    We're both running synchronet, would be interesting to see if the problem exists sending areafix from a Mystic board.

    Thanks,
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Nigel Reed on Tue Oct 27 16:37:36 2020
    On 26 Oct 2020 at 09:54p, Nigel Reed pondered and said...

    I tried sending an areafix with

    %LIST
    %HELP

    and only the first command is fulfilled, the second returns unknown echo.

    We're both running synchronet, would be interesting to see if the problem exists sending areafix from a Mystic board.

    It's working OK for Mystic to Mystic I think. I tested from 1/101 to 1/100

    [snip]

    From: AREAFIX
    To: Paul Hayton
    Subj: AREAFIX response
    Date: 10/27/20 16:19
    Base: Netmail (fsxNet)

    Your AREAFIX request has been processed

    Command: %LIST
    Result: List of all areas:
    FSX_GEN General Chat
    FSX_MYS Mystic BBS Support/Dev
    FSX_BOT fsxNet BOTS
    FSX_CRY Cryptographics
    FSX_BBS BBS Support/Dev
    FSX_DAT InterBBS Data
    FSX_MAG Magicka BBS Support/Dev
    FSX_ENG ENiGMA 1/2 BBS Support/Dev
    FSX_HAM Amateur Radio
    FSX_ESP Espanol General Chat
    FSX_NET fsxNet Network Ops/Planning
    FSX_TST fsxNet Test Arena
    FSX_ADS BBS and NETwork Ads
    FSX_STA Echomail + Network Stats
    FSX_FIL File Announcements

    Command: %HELP
    Result: Help included at end of message

    .------------------------.
    | fsxNet - AreaFix Help |----------------------------------------------------- `------------------------'


    What is AreaFix?
    ----------------

    AreaFix is a automated response system which provides echomail nodes the

    [snip]

    To get those errors Mystic is seeing something else in the text you are
    sending that may exist prior to the command you're putting on line 2,3 etc.?

    Just a guess..

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  • From Altere@21:1/113 to Avon on Mon Oct 26 23:01:40 2020
    It's working OK for Mystic to Mystic I think. I tested from 1/101 to 1/100

    To get those errors Mystic is seeing something else in the text you are sending that may exist prior to the command you're putting on line 2,3 etc.?

    I'm wondering if a WWIV or other non-synchronet/non-mystic bbs node can test this and let us know as well. I'd just like to know who to officially report it to for a fix as my fido hub works as expected which is neither synch or mystic.

    -altere
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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Altere on Tue Oct 27 17:16:06 2020
    On 26 Oct 2020 at 11:01p, Altere pondered and said...

    I'm wondering if a WWIV or other non-synchronet/non-mystic bbs node can test this and let us know as well. I'd just like to know who to
    officially report it to for a fix as my fido hub works as expected which is neither synch or mystic.

    Fair enough... someone about should be able to I think. I know Apam is
    playing with WWIV and so is Doug.. :)

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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Avon on Tue Oct 27 14:57:30 2020
    RE: Re: Bug with mystic areafix processor
    BY: Avon(21:1/101)


    Fair enough... someone about should be able to I think. I know Apam is playing with WWIV and so is Doug.. :)

    Areafix worked last time I did it, though testing with:

    %LIST
    %HELP

    To be sure.

    What message editor is being used that it fails on? My guess would be it's sending \r\n line endings, and mystic is expecting just \r leaving \n at the start of the next line... but that's a wild stab in the dark.

    Andrew


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  • From deon@21:2/116 to All on Tue Oct 27 16:08:46 2020
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    Re: Re: Bug with mystic areafix processor
    By: Apam to Avon on Tue Oct 27 2020 02:57 pm

    Yup, it seems mystic is broken...

    I sent an areafix to 21:2/100, with
    %LIST
    %UNLINKED
    %HELP
    ### (three dashes)


    and got this back:

    Command: %UNLINKED
    Result: Unknown echo area

    Command: %HELP
    Result: Unknown echo area

    Command: ---
    Result: Unknown echo area

    ...����

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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Apam on Tue Oct 27 15:29:06 2020
    RE: Re: Bug with mystic areafix processor
    BY: Apam #1 @1


    Areafix worked last time I did it, though testing with:

    %LIST
    %HELP

    To be sure.

    That came back correctly for me on WWIV.

    Andrew

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:2/101 to Apam on Tue Oct 27 00:53:16 2020
    133
    Apam wrote:
    RE: Re: Bug with mystic areafix processor
    BY: Avon(21:1/101)


    Fair enough... someone about should be able to I think. I know Apam is playing with WWIV and so is Doug.. :)

    Areafix worked last time I did it, though testing with:

    %LIST
    %HELP

    To be sure.

    What message editor is being used that it fails on? My guess would be it's
    sending \r\n line endings, and mystic is expecting just \r leaving \n at the start of the next line... but that's a wild stab in the dark.

    No, that doesn't appear to be the case.

    bbs@bbs:/sbbs/bin$ hexdump -C /sbbs/temp/mail.out
    00000000 25 4c 49 4e 4b 45 44 0a 25 48 45 4c 50 0a |%LINKED.%HELP.|


    I have a script that is sending the areafix messages so I tried with \r\n and then with \r and no joy. Also \n for S&G.

    Must be something else going on. Maybe someone can send a hexdump of a pre packaged areafix message or something?
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  • From Nigel Reed@21:2/101 to Nigel Reed on Tue Oct 27 01:02:26 2020
    133
    Nigel wrote:
    bbs@bbs:/sbbs/bin$ hexdump -C /sbbs/temp/mail.out
    00000000 25 4c 49 4e 4b 45 44 0a 25 48 45 4c 50 0a |%LINKED.%HELP.|

    My bad, I had my 0a and 0d switched around. Now it's sending just \r and
    works, but I feel that's still a bug. I'm pretty sure it should recognize both \r and \n? Maybe it's in a spec somewhere?
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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Nigel Reed on Tue Oct 27 17:39:56 2020
    RE: Re: Bug with mystic areafix processor
    BY: Nigel Reed(21:2/101)


    My bad, I had my 0a and 0d switched around. Now it's sending just \r and works, but I feel that's still a bug. I'm pretty sure it should
    recognize both
    \r and \n? Maybe it's in a spec somewhere?

    Yeah, it's probably a bug. I was just taking a stab at what might have been wrong, guess I was pretty close :P

    I don't know that there is a spec or not, FTN tends to use '\r' for line endings, but it can't hurt to be accomodating.

    Andrew

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Apam on Tue Oct 27 21:00:48 2020
    On 27 Oct 2020 at 05:39p, Apam pondered and said...

    \r and \n? Maybe it's in a spec somewhere?

    Carriage return codes? What is \r vs \n ?

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  • From Apam@21:1/182 to Avon on Tue Oct 27 19:13:08 2020
    RE: Re: Bug with mystic areafix processor
    BY: Avon(21:1/101)


    \r and \n? Maybe it's in a spec somewhere?

    Carriage return codes? What is \r vs \n ?

    \r is a Carriage return, technically it moves the cursor to the start of the line

    \n is a new line it moves the cursor down one.

    Andrew


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  • From Rushfan@21:2/115 to Apam on Tue Oct 27 13:38:38 2020
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    BY: Apam(21:1/182)


    That came back correctly for me on WWIV.

    Glad to hear it. WWIV uses "\r\n" internally and jumps through hoops to make sure it sends it as just \r or \x8d\x0a for wrapped lines.



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  • From Rushfan@21:2/115 to Apam on Tue Oct 27 13:40:30 2020
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    BY: Apam(21:1/182)


    \r and \n? Maybe it's in a spec somewhere?

    http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-0001.016 was what I used.



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  • From Digital Man@21:1/183 to Nigel Reed on Tue Oct 27 16:57:44 2020
    Re: Re: Bug with mystic areafix processor
    By: Nigel Reed to Nigel Reed on Tue Oct 27 2020 01:02 am

    Nigel wrote:
    bbs@bbs:/sbbs/bin$ hexdump -C /sbbs/temp/mail.out
    00000000 25 4c 49 4e 4b 45 44 0a 25 48 45 4c 50 0a
    |%LINKED.%HELP.|

    My bad, I had my 0a and 0d switched around. Now it's sending just \r and works, but I feel that's still a bug. I'm pretty sure it should recognize both \r and \n? Maybe it's in a spec somewhere?

    The FidoNet specs say message paragraphs should end with a CR (\r) and linefeeds (\n) should be ignored. So the CR is required the LF is optional/superfluous.
    --
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  • From Nigel Reed@21:2/101 to Digital Man on Sat Oct 31 02:52:46 2020
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    Digital wrote:
    Re: Re: Bug with mystic areafix processor
    By: Nigel Reed to Nigel Reed on Tue Oct 27 2020 01:02 am

    Nigel wrote:
    bbs@bbs:/sbbs/bin$ hexdump -C /sbbs/temp/mail.out
    00000000 25 4c 49 4e 4b 45 44 0a 25 48 45 4c 50 0a
    |%LINKED.%HELP.|

    My bad, I had my 0a and 0d switched around. Now it's sending just \r and works, but I feel that's still a bug. I'm pretty sure it should recognize both \r and \n? Maybe it's in a spec somewhere?

    The FidoNet specs say message paragraphs should end with a CR (\r) and
    linefeeds (\n) should be ignored. So the CR is required the LF is optional/superfluous.

    This is one that needs to be fixed in Mystic then.
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